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Twins Extension Candidate: Michael Pineda

Minnesota, like many teams, is constantly searching for big-league pitching depth. Last winter, the Twins headed into the offseason looking to add multiple players to their rotation. Pineda was disappointed in how his season ended in 2019 and it seems natural that he wanted to make it up to the Twins. Now, he is again heading back to free agency, so what would it take to keep him in Minnesota?
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Michael Pineda
2020 Stats (5 games): 3.38 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 130 ERA+, 2.22 FIP, 0.4 WAR

Current Contract (Signed thru 2021, 2 years/$20 million)
Michael Pineda’s time in Minnesota has certainly been turbulent. He was recovering from Tommy John surgery when the team signed him so that cost him a season and then he was suspended for using a diuretic. Still, he will only be 32-years old next season and the Twins need pitching depth moving forward. He seems like the most natural person to extend a contract to this winter.

Pros of Extending Now
Few know what the free agent market will look like this winter and there is even less certainty about next off-season. Minnesota has a certain comfort level with Pineda after negotiating two different contracts. Pineda is never going to be a front-line starter, but he provides tremendous value as a middle of the rotation arm with up-side. The Twins could work through an extension now to add some certainty to the rotation moving forward. Especially with Jose Berrios only having two years left of team control.

Cons of Extending Now
Pineda will be 32 for the entire 2021 campaign and he has already missed multiple professional seasons due to arm issues. The Twins could wait out this season, judge his performance, and decide about his long-term future. This would allow multiple teams to be in on the bidding process, but Minnesota would know him better than other teams and be able to make a smart financial decision. He has only pitched part of two seasons in a Twins uniform so there certainly can be some question marks about his performance moving forward.

Possible Extension
There seem to be a couple different routes for the Twins to pursue when it comes to Pineda and a lot comes down to what the player and his agent view as his value. It seems natural for the Twins to want to continue their current contract situation with Pineda being offered 2-year, $20 million deals ever other off-season. However, he might want to cash in with a bigger payday that pushes him out of the Twins financial picture.

How much would you give Pineda in an extension? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.

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IndianaTwin
Nov 25 2020 09:48 PM

I’m a big Pineda fan. Thought it was a great deal when they signed him to two years coming back from TJS and another two years last off-season. 

 

In my mind, he was a 170-inning pitcher in 2019, given that he missed four starts at year end. Very small sample this year, but he was definitely effective. 

 

So if 2020 and 2021 were at $10M each, would he go for another $10M in 2022, with a $10M option for 2023, with perhaps a $2M buyout? That guarantees him an additional $12M for the extra year.

    • rdehring likes this
Despite his loss at the end of 2019 and the beginning of 2020, what he has done performance wise has been excellent. He was a very smart acquisition by the FO. I'm glad to have him back for 2021. Any sort of extension, in my mind, is not based on what he has done thus far. It's based on 2 key points that we don't know yet: 1] Who do the Twins add? Do we sign Odorizzi or someone else via FA or trade? We NEED one more SP. But whoever we add, if it's only a 1yr deal, that could raise Pineda's value. 2] How close do the Twins view Duran, Balazovic, Chalmers and Ober as being ready? There is no such thing as a bad 1yr contract, right? No insult, but after the suspension, I would think another 1yr deal for $10M...MAYBE $12M...would be in order. You could offer a similar 2nd year with a $2M buyout. And I'd be OK with that. Quality SP is worth an aweful lot. And Pineda comes cheap, potentially. But with some talented young arms on the way...before we see what the FO does...I'm balking at anything other than a 1yr with a decent 2nd year and an affordable buyout.
    • Strato Guy, rdehring and bobs like this

I don't think we saw enough of Pineda in 2020 to justify another deal with him. I'd rather wait to see how he pitches the 2021 season and go from there.

    • mikelink45 likes this
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yeahyabetcha
Nov 26 2020 05:53 AM
I don’t believe he would sign at $10 million per year and not sure I would go more than that.
    • mikelink45 likes this
I would definitely give it a shot. The Twins need quality starting pitching and to assume the prospects are going to slide right in there is a fool’s errand. For that matter they need to bring Odo back as well.
    • DocBauer likes this
He’s Mr. dependable to me. 3 yrs - 13-12-10 with 1M buyout seems reasonable. It’s not often that he loses a game with his pitching, more often that he takes a hard luck loss. Good losing streak stopper, someone I’d like to see retire with the Twins.

I like Big Mike.Not sure how much of a commitment beyond 2021 is feasible though.I'd think if they can get him to agree to a reasonable dollar amount, the FO will jump.With reduced revenue, I'm not sure what "reasonable" looks like.Fortunately, guys like Falvey and Levine are FAR smarter about this than I am.At some point, club is going to have to figure out what it has in guys like Duran, Balezovic, Chalmers, etc..

    • DocBauer likes this

The last four years he has won 6,8,11,2 games - I would not call that dependable.Suspensions and injuries.What are we paying for?Would I extend him - yes for no more than two years and for a very team friendly contract - he owes the team more than they owe him. 

 

By the way I know people don't like wins anymore, but a starting pitcher should still reach double figures with some regularity.  

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specialiststeve
Nov 27 2020 10:28 PM

Would guess he would want at least 2 years... so 3 year deal... at 12 mil per. With the third year being a team option. Or .... just let this play out... trade him at the trade deadline and bring up his replacement.... one of our young studs.... His call. Take it or we move on... 


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