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Twins Daily Roundtable: Grading the Front Office

Twins Daily Roundtable is a weekly series. As part of this series, a question will be posed to the site’s writers and they will respond in 200 words or less (Some writers don’t like to stick to this limit). This will give readers an opportunity to see multiple points of view and then add their own point of view in the comments section.

Derek Falvey and Thad Levine are two years into their tenure running the Minnesota Twins. In their first season, the club made a surprise run to the postseason and the team managed to have a solid off-season in 2018. With two drafts and trade deadlines under their belt, the farm system has been rebuilt into one of the best in baseball.

This week’s roundtable discussion question is: “How would you grade the front office’s performance? Why?”
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Nick Nelson
Short-term planning is hard sometimes. No one could have predicted last offseason that returning core players like Byron Buxton, Miguel Sano and Ervin Santana — as well as new additions like Lance Lynn, Logan Morrison and Addison Reed — would collectively contribute so little in 2018 after the years they had in 2017. This turn of events completely sabotaged any chance of contention this season, and there's little the front office could have done about it without the benefit of hindsight.

I still like the moves they made, especially because they were geared toward big-picture success. The Twins can move on from Lynn and Morrison after this season and managed to reload the pipeline with savvy trades in late July. They've set themselves up for tremendous spending flexibility this winter. Falvey and Levine have shown a penchant for opportunistically acquiring useful talents — such as Tyler Austin, Jake Cave and Gabriel Moya — at low costs. And, crucially, they've also overseen two drafts that look like absolute slam dunks so far, shoring up a sore spot from the latter years of Terry Ryan's tenure.

The 2018 season has been a bummer but I feel extremely optimistic about the organization's leadership going forward.

Seth Stohs
Always a tough question because what's more important, process or results? Obviously results matter, but that's too easy. We all loved the offseason, for the most part, and adding the likes of Lance Lynn and Logan Morrison to one-year deals in spring training was immensely exciting. It didn't pan out. At all.

But I think they've continued to add personnel and systems behind the scenes that should have Twins fans excited.

In season, I think they've been fine. They've been willing to work and make changes to the 24th and 25th men on the active roster, and they've been willing to grab guys on the back end of the 40-man roster.

I may not agree with every single decision, but I do trust the process. I do like what they did at the trade deadline and as they like to say, the way they've developed "waves" of prospects to hopefully put the Twins in a position to compete for playoff spots for the next decade or two!

Grade: I don't know. B?

Cody Christie
Last week’s roundtable revolved around trying to give a grade to Paul Molitor. Managers get too much of the credit when a team wins or loses. For the front office, it takes a long-term approach to revamp an entire organization. The Twins were amid some bad seasons, but the farm system had some good pieces. There are lots of things to consider when looking at the front office as a whole.

In their first season leading the organization, Falvey and Levine kept a lot of the previous front office pieces in place to reevaluate everyone. They started overhauling some of the pieces last off-season so it’s hard to know how well those pieces have worked out.

Even though the wins haven’t piled up, I’d give the front office an A for last off-season. It helps to have the number one overall pick, but the minor league system has moved from middle of the road to a top-10 system in all of baseball. I’d give them a solid B+ for their drafting so far with the potential of it moving higher based on results in the years ahead.

I feel their approach with Sano and Buxton this season was also appropriate. There are few teams that would send a former All-Star all the way down to High-A to “find themselves.” All things considered, I’d give them an A- at this point.

Tom Froemming
This is a tough question to answer, given that Derek Falvey has only been around since October of 2016. There are a lot of areas where I would give an incomplete grade at this point, but overall, I'd give them a C.

Nothing jumps out to me that suggests they're either clearly above or clearly below average.

What's really going to make or break this front office in the end is how they draft. So far, they appear to me to be very good at draft strategy, though having the No. 1 overall pick their first year certainly didn't hurt.

I liked how decisive they were at this year's deadline, but there have been a number of odd scrap-heap additions while guys performing down on the farm have struggled to find opportunities. The more Falvey and Thad Levine put their fingerprints on the org, the more we'll know. I think the next 12 months could be particularly telling

Ted Schwerzler
I've considered this as a significantly loaded question at multiple points during this 2018 season. The offseason was one in which the front office hit it out of the park. They aimed high (Darvish), and they shot often (multiple FAs). When the dust settled, they brought in a crop of players that signified a large talent leap and did so by boasting an all-time high payroll.

From there, things went downhill. A good number of those new players flopped (which isn't the fault of the front office), and the answers sought seemed less than satisfactory. I haven't found myself a fan of many roster moves made during the season and think more games could've been won with better promotions from the farm. As a whole, it's been a strong step forward from the late years of the Terry Ryan regime, but this duo isn't yet to the point of breaking through.

Jamie Cameron
It's easy to get caught up in the day-to-day minutia of what the front office does and doesn't do, particularly with roster management. While some of the roster decisions have been odd (if not extremely poor), there are so many facets of the organization the front office has excelled at.

Early indicators suggest the front office has drafted well in both drafts. Additionally, the Twins offseason was both strong and opportunistic (despite not translating on to the field). Finally, the team worked hard to acquire some exciting pieces at the deadline and took advantage of impending free agents.

One other key lever when examining the front office. We tend to give equal weight to all aspects of the work of the front office in evaluating them. In reality, the number -one pick decision is vastly higher leverage than in-season roster management in a season where they were unlikely to reach the playoffs anyway. While the front office has some areas for refinement, their biggest decisions have been huge wins for the organization.

Steve Lein
Two years into evaluating any long-term “plan” Falvine and company may have is still a bit quick on the trigger, but I am on board with a lot of the things they have done to this point in the short-term sense.

I liked that they struck on a colder free agent market to bring in guys like Addison Reed, Zach Duke, Lance Lynn, and Logan Morrison on short deals. On paper they improved some areas that needed it after a playoff appearance, which is what we all asked for. I’ll concede this didn’t work out, but when it didn’t they unloaded those and other short-term assets for future returns.

I also approve of how they seem to be running the minor league system. For once, I don’t have the impression prospects are being held back as a whole. Top prospects Royce Lewis, Alex Kirilloff, and Brusdar Graterol were all promoted after a half-season in Cedar Rapids, where such prospects often would spend an entire season no matter how they performed under old leadership. Fernando Romero made his MLB debut after just four starts in Triple-A, as examples.

What I haven’t liked is their usage of the 40-man roster, both heading into the season with whom they protected/lost, and who has been bypassed with moves on the waiver wire. Small potatoes here, but it’s not all sunshine and rainbows with them yet.

To assign a letter grade, I’ll say B-minus, trending up.

SD Buhr
The best “grade” I can give this front office is “Incomplete.” It hasn’t had time to fail, but the results on the field haven’t been anything to get TOO excited about, either. I’m sure some will give them a partial pass simply because they were not allowed to hire their “own man” as manager, instead being required by ownership to retain Paul Molitor. I think that’s a cop out.

“Falvine” has only had one full offseason and I think most of us felt they did a decent job assembling a roster over the offseason. I’m also certain that a lot of people are impressed with the way this FO has modernized its approach to everything from scouting to assembling and utilizing advanced data.

I just think running a professional baseball organization is about more than that. It’s also about relationship building – with players, agents, other GMs/executives, affiliates, fans, media and, I’m sure, many more stakeholders.

It’s just too early for me to give a pass or fail grade at this point.

If you missed any of the most recent roundtable discussions, here are the links:
Grading Molitor
Closing Time
Prospect Promotions
Hall of Fame Impact
Baseball in 2028

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I'll echo there are a lot of great comments and points of view here even those I don't necessarily agree with. And I'm going to cop out on a final grade and just say "incomplete" but optimistic, waiting for the final pages of their thesis to be turned in.

They were brought in to re-build the culture and the system. (Note: this does not have to include an over night razing of everything and everyone). If you felt a pair of off season's would accomplish their version of a re-build, re-tool or re-construction, then I would say you were at least overly optimistic, if not a bit naive.

My incomplete is an overview of what I have seen so far:

LIKE:

They made "meh" low-key additions for 2017 like Giminez and Belisle and even Castro, instead of looking for quick fixes or a scorched earth philosophy. Those moves worked quite well.

BOTH Garcia trades made sense last season, though they were made for different reasons, even so close together. Not trading Dozier initially made sense for what it appears was offered. However the players acquired at this year's trading deadline turn out, the fact that they acted definitively to increase talent and options for pending FA was decisive and much more aggressive than we have seen in a very long time.

I was pleased with the FA moves, and Odorizzi trade, this past off season. Nothing long term. Nothing to block young talent. All smart moves, mostly all heralded, but simply didn't turn out. I am just not going to hold them accountable for injuries and poor showings. They took an aggressive shot!

I like the way the juggled the 25 man last season and rode the Rochester shuttle to keep the team as complete and fresh as they could.

I really like both of their drafts so far. I'm actually pleasantly surprised at how good the 2018 early returns look thus far. (Early I know). And I think it's a bit disingenuous to say the 2017 draft should have been good when you have the 1st pick over all. You still have to make the right choice and choices. There was no Strasburger or Harper as the clear cut, OMG, #1 choice.

I like that they seem to be a bit more aggressive in milb promotions. I love they weren't conservative with Romero, and were maybe too aggressive with Littell, but weren't afraid.

There are other points I like, including the move for Cave just before the season began, but this covers the majority.

DISLIKE:

I think the re-set of Sano was later than it should have been. In fact, I think they should have done a better job of monitoring him during the off season.

I don't think they handled Buxton's toe injury well at all.

For as well as they handled the 25 man last season, and the mentioned Rochester express, I don't think they have done a very good job this season. Not only have I felt some guys got yanked back down too early, at times, but I also feel they have been way too slow, especially at this point in the season, to look at Reed, Curtiss and others vs Belisle and Drake. (Note: I can ALMOST understand Drake as a "what if" flier). My next THREE points work in conjunction with this one.

Each unto themselves, I can understand not protecting Bard, Chargois, Burdi and Rodriguez. There are legitimate reasons to not protect each and everyone of those guys! But ALL of them? (But too be fair, could ANYONE actually see Rodriguez having the decent/solid year he's had?)

I don't like the way they've tried to "out smart" everyone else in the rule 5 each of the last two off seasons. Please stop!

I very much dislike the way the built the Rochester team this year. I get you felt there were some guys, like Gordon and Wade, for example, that you wanted to take some time with. And the real depth of the system was always going to be in the lower part of the system. But with the financial flexibility granted to them...I'd say the proof in that is the FA moves made...you couldn't find a few AAAA type guys to put together a decent roster with opportunities awaiting if someone got hurt, under performed, etc? Sano was a concern of mine, and I voiced that before the season began. I lamented letting Goodrum walk, though maybe he saw greener pastures anyway. But there wasn't a Brian Buscher, SOMEWHERE to be had? Was Wilson, not being mean, truly the best and only catching option available? For all the angst written about Tyner and Florimon being given real ML time in the past, wouldn't a couple of guys like them have improved the Rochester team and provided at least competent call up options?

In a nutshell, as I'm reading the thesis on "how to re-tool the Twins to a competitive and sustainable franchise" I'm mostly impressed and about ready to hand out a positive grade. But this next off season will move my grade up, or down. And to be precise, my grade won't be determined by a sudden FA flurry the likes of which we have never seen. Nor will it be a sudden trade explosion involving the ML roster and half the top 10 prospects in the system. It will involve improving what is on hand, and setting those players up for success. (The absolute most talented players on the roster will still be 26 or younger in 2019). It will include a smart FA signing or two. It will be about a smart trade, or two.

My final grade doesn't involve a legitimate run at the WS next season. (Though that would be wonderful!l. It's about building on what you have, making it better, and making smart decisions to augment what you have...as well as what is coming...without a "damn the torpedoes" trap for a short term fix.

In any sport, I think most can agree, year 3 is where your stamp should start showing.
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$43 million comes off the books - Mauer, Erv, and LoMo. In 2019 they have $32.5 million in committed dollars so far (Pineda, Castro, Reed)

I don't recall a time when I paid attention to payroll where the Twins had this much flexibility.

I don't expect them to match this year's payroll total, but even at a conservative $100 million payroll they have $30-40 million to play with this winter.

That doesn't mean they have to spend it. 

 

I could see them possibly spending the money on extensions to Rosario, Berrios, Kepler, etc. 

 

We will see, the free agent market last year was funky and I don't see it changing, if it was me I'd have a wait and see attitude, see if some of the huge contracts will come down.The high end free agents like Harper and Machado will get paid but it will be interesting to see about the rest of the free agents.

That doesn't mean they have to spend it.

I could see them possibly spending the money on extensions to Rosario, Berrios, Kepler, etc.


Unless they are wildly front-loaded, those extensions wouldn't impact 2019 payroll much at all.
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Unless they are wildly front-loaded, those extensions wouldn't impact 2019 payroll much at all.

You're probably correct but I just threw that in there to placate some of the TD readers that willl be outraged when the Twins don't spend that 30-40 millions dollars, at least they've spent it long-term on extentions.

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If this is the level you expected for Kepler, you had lower expectations than I did.


League average to above average is pretty much what most every scouting report projected his reasonable ceiling to be.

I mean, I can certainly understand being hopeful that he'd outshine his projections. But that's a far cry from suggesting he should be demoted just because he's "only" a league average player.

Getting league average production, for the league minimum, from a 16 year old international signing from Germany, who was never an elite prospect? That's a huge win for the Twins scouting and development.
We need more success stories like this from that department, not less.
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League average to above average is pretty much what most every scouting report projected his reasonable ceiling to be.

I mean, I can certainly understand being hopeful that he'd outshine his projections. But that's a far cry from suggesting he should be demoted just because he's "only" a league average player.

Getting league average production, for the league minimum, from a 16 year old international signing from Germany, who was never an elite prospect? That's a huge win for the Twins scouting and development.
We need more success stories like this from that department, not less.

Actually I was not suggesting that he be sent down, but I do expect him to hit more than 235 and the only solution we have had for players who do not reach their goals and expectations is to send them down.I still think that Kepler has plateaued way too early and something needs to be done, but who will help him move forward.I have not seen any indication that this team knows how to do it. 

Actually I was not suggesting that he be sent down, but I do expect him to hit more than 235 and the only solution we have had for players who do not reach their goals and expectations is to send them down. I still think that Kepler has plateaued way too early and something needs to be done, but who will help him move forward. I have not seen any indication that this team knows how to do it.


What about all the other things a player brings to the table aside from batting average?

Overall, he's a slightly above average MLB player. Nobody realistically projected him to be better than that. If he's failing to meet your expectations, then I'd suggest your expectations were too high.
Not every player will become a star. That doesn't make them a disappointment. Kepler's projected ceiling was a complimentary player to the stars that were supposed to be Buxton and Sano. Kepler has lived up to that expectation.
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What about all the other things a player brings to the table aside from batting average?

Overall, he's a slightly above average MLB player. Nobody realistically projected him to be better than that. If he's failing to meet your expectations, then I'd suggest your expectations were too high.
Not every player will become a star. That doesn't make them a disappointment. Kepler's projected ceiling was a complimentary player to the stars that were supposed to be Buxton and Sano. Kepler has lived up to that expectation.

It's funny that you should mention that.I was about to go back and edit my statement.He is batting .227 - is it too much to expect a BA of 250?His career BA is 235.Is that really acceptable?His WAR is 2.4 and I am getting dizzy from this STAT - what does that mean - only that since we have won 61 games someone has to get credit for the wins.He averages 14 HR and 45 RBIs - is this what you expected when he came up as the big three - Rosario, Buxton, and Kepler.You might have seen him as an average or below batter, I had hopes of a Rosario take off.

 

Sorry, but Kepler has really fallen short of my hopes and if he represents the future we can expect to be mediocre for a long time.

 

Thanks for setting me off again!

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Aug 30 2018 03:08 PM
No one is saying there isn’t room for Kepler to improve. But you called for a Sano and Buxton like “reset” and given the fact that Kepler’s production is ABOVE league average, it simply isn’t warranted. That he isn’t meeting your arbitrary expectations is your problem.
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It's funny that you should mention that. I was about to go back and edit my statement. He is batting .227 - is it too much to expect a BA of 250? His career BA is 235. Is that really acceptable? His WAR is 2.4 and I am getting dizzy from this STAT - what does that mean - only that since we have won 61 games someone has to get credit for the wins. He averages 14 HR and 45 RBIs - is this what you expected when he came up as the big three - Rosario, Buxton, and Kepler. You might have seen him as an average or below batter, I had hopes of a Rosario take off.

Sorry, but Kepler has really fallen short of my hopes and if he represents the future we can expect to be mediocre for a long time.

Thanks for setting me off again!


For starters, it's more than a little misleading to include his 7 plate appearances in 2015 to calculate his season averages for counting stats like HR and RBI.

His batting average may disappoint you, but I'm just saying that is only one stat. Why focus so much on that one stat?

He's improved his OBP and SLG each year. He's taken 55 walks to just 81 strikeouts this year.
And defense matters too. He's a pretty good defensive outfielder, that is why someone might want to look at something that attempts to capture the whole picture, like WAR.

And that's fine that you personally had higher expectations, nothing wrong with that. I just wanted to establish that objectively, those expectations weren't shared industry wide. He's lived up to the expectations that his prospect and milb status would have projected.
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For starters, it's more than a little misleading to include his 7 plate appearances in 2015 to calculate his season averages for counting stats like HR and RBI.

His batting average may disappoint you, but I'm just saying that is only one stat. Why focus so much on that one stat?

He's improved his OBP and SLG each year. He's taken 55 walks to just 81 strikeouts this year.
And defense matters too. He's a pretty good defensive outfielder, that is why someone might want to look at something that attempts to capture the whole picture, like WAR.

And that's fine that you personally had higher expectations, nothing wrong with that. I just wanted to establish that objectively, those expectations weren't shared industry wide. He's lived up to the expectations that his prospect and milb status would have projected.

Here is a fangraph comps study - I thought it might be good to bring in another opinion - https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/the-change-max-kepler-and-statcast-power-comps/

This was in 2016 - based on his stats not much has changed.  

 

These are the comparable batters in 2018 according to Baseball Reference:

Elijah Dukes (983.2)
Oswaldo Arcia (979.3)
Aaron Guiel (974.6)
Kyle Blanks (971.6)
Brant Alyea (970.3)
Damon Hollins (969.3)
Byron Browne (968.7)
Jorge Soler (968.7)
Ken Hunt (968.7)
Mike Kelly (967.7)

 

Again, this is not the list I anticipated when we brought Kepler up. 

 

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Cast of Thousands
Aug 30 2018 04:52 PM

Interesting how a few arbitrary things out of anyone's control could impact an evaluation like this dramatically one way or the other.

 

The evaluations might look a lot different had Buxton, Sano, E. Santana, Morrison, and even Lance Lynn not all been virtually irrelevant this year for whatever reasons.

 

In many aspects, yes, the grade is probably Incomplete but I have to admit I like what I've seen for the most part.  I'm cautiously optimistic for the future!

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Here is a fangraph comps study - I thought it might be good to bring in another opinion - https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/the-change-max-kepler-and-statcast-power-comps/
This was in 2016 - based on his stats not much has changed.

These are the comparable batters in 2018 according to Baseball Reference:
Elijah Dukes (983.2)
Oswaldo Arcia (979.3)
Aaron Guiel (974.6)
Kyle Blanks (971.6)
Brant Alyea (970.3)
Damon Hollins (969.3)
Byron Browne (968.7)
Jorge Soler (968.7)
Ken Hunt (968.7)
Mike Kelly (967.7)

Again, this is not the list I anticipated when we brought Kepler up.


That table from bref is comparing his stats to career stats.
Comparable by age is the more relevant table.
They also are offensive stats only, they don't count for his really good defense.

And again, that's great if you expected more.
I was simply establishing that those weren't necessarily expectations shared by scouts or his prospect status.

 

That table from bref is comparing his stats to career stats.
Comparable by age is the more relevant table.
They also are offensive stats only, they don't count for his really good defense.

And again, that's great if you expected more.
I was simply establishing that those weren't necessarily expectations shared by scouts or his prospect status.

The issue is not what he has done, it is about what we get him to become.Ithink he has a lot more to contribute than what we have seen.

But I have enjoyed this exchange. 

You can put me in the group, misguided as it may be, that thinks Kepler has more to offer than a league average player.Not that that's a bad thing as some prospects don't turn into anything.But, he was the Southern League Player of the Year in 2015 at age 22 and a top 100 prospect.With his swing and approach I think there's more there.Frustrating to watch are the seemingly long stretches where offensively he drops into a black hole.He's still only 25 and has some significant time in at the big league level, so I could see it clicking at a certain point.I don't think it's crazy to see a reachable ceiling of .260-.280 20-25HR seasons with plus defense.  

On a related note, I keep reading in different posts that the Twins and Falvine 'will have a boatload of money to spend on free agency'. 
 
I don't see it.

The Twins will have a boatload to spend, whether they ACTUALLY spend it is a different story (and extremely unlikely that they spend it all unless they're getting one of the big boys). I think most realize that.

A ton of money is coming off the books though. That's fact.
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You can not grade an organization on what you think will happen in the future, you can only grade on what has transpired. In baseball all that counts is wins and losses, no excuses for injuries, suspensions, bad luck, etc., every team has those. Bottom line, this years Minnesota Twins are a failure and deserve an F. 

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I can’t be very impressed with an organization that finds itself far out of the race on Sept 1st, but who call up Matt Belisle, Chris Gimenez, and waiver wire fodder when rosters expand.

Fine job of adding talent, Misters Falvey and Levine.
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I can’t be very impressed with an organization that finds itself far out of the race on Sept 1st, but who call up Matt Belisle, Chris Gimenez, and waiver wire fodder when rosters expand.

Fine job of adding talent, Misters Falvey and Levine.

Yep ... this is the part of the job that earned them a bad grade from me. Can't know yet what the trades and drafts will yield, though, so ... who knows. But this? Yeah ... why?

I think the central could be tougher next year. I believe the White Sox just swept the Yankees??9
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IMO, this organization had a lot of issues when the new FO took over.I believe it's too early to grade them at all.  

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You can not grade an organization on what you think will happen in the future, you can only grade on what has transpired. In baseball all that counts is wins and losses, no excuses for injuries, suspensions, bad luck, etc., every team has those. Bottom line, this years Minnesota Twins are a failure and deserve an F. 

 

This is incredibly harsh and somewhat correct at the same time. 

 

I was ready to counter this until I thought about it. 

 

You are kinda right. 

 

We may have different ideas of what a rebuild is, but this is how I see it, and classify this comparison made:

 

The Cubs burned it to the ground to rebuild if your comparing to the Twins, who maybe started a small campfire.

 

Through Free Agency, Trades, and Drafting, the Cubs added 54 WAR to their team that won the title in 2016. (source: http://www.chicagotr...htmlstory.html#). This...isn't even in the realm of a comparison to where the Twins are now.

 

Epstein traded Ryan Dempster, Steve Clevenger, Scott Feldman, Matt Garza, Jason Hammel, and Jeff Samardzija to get back Kyle Hendricks, Jake Arrietta, Pedro Strop, and Addison Russell. 

 

TR traded Denard Span, Ben Revere, Delmon Young, and Francisco Liriano to get back...Trevor May and Eduardo Escobar.

 

They were trying to stay relevant, not do a true rebuild.

 

If they were doing that:

 

Cuddyer should have been traded. Glen Perkins should have been traded. Oswaldo Arcia should have been traded. Jason Kubel should have been traded. Josh Willingham should have been traded a year sooner. Justin Morneau should have been traded a year sooner...............(I'm probably leaving out others too)

Cuddyer netted the team the draft picks that became JO Berrios and Chargois.The trade would have had to been made by Smith, not RyanMorneau should have been traded in the Bill Smith era,between the 2012, and the 2013 Morneau there would be little difference in value. Wilingham never had value except in fan fantasies, Kubel was a liability in the field. If there was a market for him after his breakout season it was again a Bill Smith era thing to do. By the time Ryan took over again, Kubel was well knownand down to a slightly above replacement level player. . Yup Arizona gave him a fat contract.At that time fat contracts were easier for teams to give for a player than a prospect. The prospect turned out to be Luke Bard as the compensation pick.That pick has not worked out, but a reasonably goodchoice. Edwin Diaz would have been better, but every GM passed on him a time or two when they should not have.

 

Epstien got lucky. Right time, right place. Got a better deal than Boston did for worse pitchers. He still has the same job, Cherrington does not. Epstien dealing mediocrity having a great seasonfor great prospects was about the last time it happened.

 

You can not grade an organization on what you think will happen in the future, you can only grade on what has transpired. In baseball all that counts is wins and losses, no excuses for injuries, suspensions, bad luck, etc., every team has those. Bottom line, this years Minnesota Twins are a failure and deserve an F. 

Short term results are all that matters then? In Ryan's second go around most of his failure was due to trying to fix things with band aids. for the here and now. To look at the success of a teamrather than the organization as a whole is as poor of choice as could be. To expect them to pull elite players out of thin air is unreasonable. To have major league ready available players available forCF, 3B SS, Ace pitcher as well as tanking 2b, and top set up man who was never injured gets injured is a bit much for any team to absorb.

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The Twins will have a boatload to spend, whether they ACTUALLY spend it is a different story (and extremely unlikely that they spend it all unless they're getting one of the big boys). I think most realize that.

A ton of money is coming off the books though. That's fact.

I'm not sure why we're worried about IF they'll spend it when the primary problem has been spending WISELY. They splurged last year, going over what most thought the cap was, and Reed, Morrison, and Odorizzi (not a FA but was traded due to $$$ problems for the Rays) have mostly failed. Signing Darvish would have ended as a travesty in year one of the deal. 

 

Spending money just to spend it isn't a strategy I like. Make wise deals if you can and save your cash if the deals out there are too risky. I want the team to win games, not spend money to appease the fans who can't stand the 'penny-pinching' Pohlads.

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