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Jake Odorizzi, What's going on w/ him?

Minnesota Twins Talk Yesterday, 08:50 PM
Since the beginning there was a lot of FA talk surrounding Jake &thattherewas a lot of interest from various teams. Thought he'd be g...
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Pitchers and Catchers Report Date?

Minnesota Twins Talk Yesterday, 06:22 PM
What is the current status of Spring Training, and the start of the season? Is there a schedule?
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Twins DH

Minnesota Twins Talk Yesterday, 06:22 PM
Is the Twins DH already on the roster?I love watching Nelson Cruz, but we are going to jam up the pipeline of prospects if we keep Cruz....
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fangraphs and other national, non-local articles about th...

Minnesota Twins Talk 15 Jan 2021
Can't find the old thread on this but it's probably time for a new one anyway. Fangraphs just published their playoff odds - https:...
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Free Agency / Re-Signings 2020-21 Offseason

Other Baseball 15 Jan 2021
Free agency is likely going to be a really slow burn this year, but I still think it's worth having a thread to discuss signings. ...
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The Payroll Question to Answer for the 2021 Twins

Earlier this week I spent an hour with John Bonnes and Nate Palmer talking through ideas regarding the 2021 Minnesota Twins payroll. Who will go, what they need, and how much they’ll have to spend were all worthy conversations. The one hang up I keep coming back to is, what will the market actually bear?
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It’s completely tone deaf to suggest that owning a major league sports franchise is a losing business venture, the reality is that revenues won’t be at their traditional levels in 2020. With no fans in the stands organizations have lost out on lucrative ticket sales, concessions, and other traditional operating dollars. Because of this, the assumption is that payrolls across the league will take a step backwards in 2021. What we don’t know if where the ripple effect will end.

Free agency and talent acquisition still take place on a competitive market. There are 30 suitors for any one position (as long as the designated hitter remains universal), and varying levels of need and risk factors that come into play. Attempting to land a non-committed player will likely never be as straightforward as a one-way exchange of figures. However, was does reduced cash flow throughout the sport look like, and how does a potential lockout in 2022 impact things further?

While doing our Offseason Live show focused on the Twins 2021 payroll, the general assumption is some level of decrease. Without knowing the percentage, we are operating in a world of hypotheticals. It is fair to suggest that a non-tender of Eddie Rosario is probably the most logical cost cutting move to make. The next biggest swing comes in the form of a reunion with designated hitter Nelson Cruz. Likely representative of the Twins big splash for 2021, his price tag won’t be cheap. Where things get interesting is when the market starts to bear fruit.

In a normal scenario a guy like Cruz, coming off the season he had, might be looking at something like $14-16 million per year. He wants a two-year deal, and though that’s a fair ask, he’s still going to be 41 years old. Dealing with a new set of parameters, does the market value for all players take a percentage step backwards in relation to that of the payroll? Say a 20% decrease in year over year spend, does that make Cruz’s new best get something like $11-12 million?

To me, it’s in that question that we see just how aggressive Minnesota can be in filling their needs. Coming into 2020 with a $140 million commitment, there should be no reason they don’t continue to dole out cash as they supplement a window of opportunity. That can still take place even if it’s in a different form. Maybe they jump from 17th overall in payroll to the top 15. Maybe instead of a 20% cut they only step backwards 10%. Whatever happens, the Twins will need to be ready to pivot and pounce.

Right now, the goal should be to start making assessments on what virtually every player will make and be worth. Once the first couple of deals have been made, assess and compare. From there you should have a good idea as to how to approach potential fits and keeping in mind a need for aggressiveness should be at the forefront.

Today we can make determinations on what needs are there, and even predict some of the departures. Understanding how to put the puzzle together when we don’t know how many pieces it is will prove tricky.

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2 Comments

assumptions Marvin G is gone (9mil), Eddie R don't offer Arbitration (7.75 mil), Decline Sergio R Option (5Mil)

 

Big Quesiton is Pitching....can you get Odo back cheap?Hill?What else will be out there......

Resign Cruz, one yr good money with a mutual option..if he wants two a slight discount in the second with escalators....bring up a young guy to replace Rosario....

 

They will have to plan for no fans in 2021, and adjust up if possible.....

We aren't going to see a return to pre 2020 covid attendance levels for the next few years i think. That's gonna hammer ALL sports franchises, not just MLB. I fully expect it to drag down salaries / reduce what owners are willing to spend on payrolls, and even cause contraction or relocation of many of the marginal franchises in MLB, NFL, NHL, etc. 

 

An Example is Tampa Bay which has consistently low attendance numbers and low revenue, but is being held hostage in a toilet bowl of a stadium by the City of St. Petersburg. In a few years they will be splitting games or will flat out relocate to someplace like Montreal (which i personally think is a terrible location given the LONG history of very low attendance numbers the Expos had in Olympic Stadium, another toilet bowl of a stadium), orrrr they may fold altogether. 


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