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Similarities Between The Twins And Wolves

Fans of the Minnesota Twins came into the 2016 season with some high hopes and expectations following their first winning season since 2010. The team went on to set a team record with 103 losses.

Fans of the Minnesota Timberwolves came into this 2016-17 season with some high hopes and expectations. They had a new head coach with plenty of experience to work with the Wolves young talent. Even with a win on Monday night against Dallas, the Wolves are still just 12-26 on their season.
Image courtesy of Brad Rempel, USA Today (Zach LaVine)
Obviously there is no perfect way to compare and contrast two teams, especially in different sports. There are a lot of similarities between the two teams right now beyond disappointing 2016 on-field performances.

MIGUEL SANO and KARL-ANTHONY TOWNS

These are two big men who were signed with big expectations.

Sano was considered one of the best amateurs from the Dominican Republic in the last 15 years. The Twins signed him to the top signing bonus of the year. Towns was clearly the top players available in the draft in 2015 after just one season at Kentucky.

Towns was the unanimous choice for NBA Rookie of the Year when he averaged 18.3 points with 10.5 rebounds. Sano finished third place in American League Rookie of the Year voting despite not being called up until July. He hit .269/.385/.530 (.916) with 17 doubles and 18 home runs.

Sano took a step back in 2016. He hit .236/.319/.462 (.781) with 22 doubles and 25 home runs. He set the Twins record for strikeouts in a season and didn’t find a defensive position. Towns has averaged 21.4 points and 11.6 rebounds per game so far this season, both improvements. Yet there are times when we read that he hasn’t stepped up yet as much as some would like.

In both cases, if those are bad seasons, it symbolizes just how much talent each has, and how good they can be in the coming years.

BYRON BUXTON and ANDREW WIGGINS

These are two tremendously gifted athletes selected high in the draft creating tremendous expectations.

Wiggins was the #1 pick of the Cleveland Cavaliers in 2014 and soon traded to the Wolves in the Kevin Love trade. Byron Buxton was the second overall pick in the 2012 draft by the Twins and was #1 or #2 in the national prospect rankings three straight years.

Wiggins won the 2014-15 NBA Rookie of the Year when he averaged 16.9 points and 4.6 rebounds. Buxton struggled in the big leagues until September when he began to show just how good he can be. Buxton hasn’t shown consistency in the big leagues yet. And Wiggins can score 40 in one game and go 2-15 from the field in the next.

Both were said to be much stronger defensively than offensively but their athleticism gives hope that they could become all-around players. Buxton has all five tools though he has struggled with the offense for the most part. Wiggins has increased his scoring each year from 16.9 to 20.1 to 22.1 this season. He’s averaging 4.2 rebounds with 2.4 assists.

MAX KEPLER and ZACH LaVINE

When the Wolves selected LaVine out of UCLA with a mid-first round pickin 2014, it raised some eyebrows. He’s a uniquely-gifted, athletic talent who was very raw when he was drafted. Flip Saunders moved him around a little bit, often playing him at point guard in an attempt to improve his all around game. He has gone from 10.8 to 14.0 to 20.8 points per game. He’s become more than just a flashy dunk champion. He’s become a real three-point threat. He needed more time to develop but he has developed into a key contributor and big part of the future.

Kepler was signed in 2009 out of Germany. He needed a lot of development and spent extra time down in the rookie leagues. However, as he moved up the ladder, Kepler started putting up more numbers. As he reached AA in 2015, he was sitting at 6-3 and 220 pounds. He was the Southern League MVP and the Twins choice for minor league hitter of the year. He filled out the stat line, hitting for average, showing power, getting on-base, stealing bases and playing good defense at multiple positions. While there isn’t a slam-dunk contest in baseball, but Kepler’s athleticism gives him a good chance of being a well-rounded player.

JOSE BERRIOS and KRIS DUNN

Berrios was a supplemental first-round pick in 2012 and debuted in 2016 before his 22nd birthday. He continued to improve and became a Top 25 prospect in all of baseball. Kris Dunn had a solid career at Providence to the point the he became the fifth overall pick in last year’s draft.

Berrios certainly struggled in his debut in 2016, posting a 3-7 with an 8.02 ERA and a 1.87 WHIP, but that doesn’t (or shouldn’t) take away any of the luster of his potential. Likewise, Kris Dunn has had a frustrating rookie season. To this point, he is averaging just four points per game, with 2.5 assists and 2.2 rebounds. Then again, he’s been averaging just under 16 minutes per game.
Both are known for their work ethic and should have stronger sophomore seasons as they get more opportunity.

JORGE POLANCO and TYUS JONES

Polanco was signed the same day that Max Kepler was signed. They were added to the 40-man roster in 2013 after strong seasons in Cedar Rapids. Polanco - out of 40-man roster necessity - debuted with two very small cups of coffee in 2014. The same thing happened in 2015. Early in 2016, he came up and sat on the bench most of the time. Finally after Eduardo Nunez was traded, he began playing every day. Given the opportunity, he hit a solid .282/.332/.424 (.757) with 15 doubles, four triples and four home runs. The question with Polanco is more his defense. He struggled at shortstop statistically. He would likely move to second base with a Brian Dozier trade, where he would probably be better, but certainly not a Gold Glove caliber player.

Apple Valley native Tyus Jones went to Duke where he won a National Championship as a freshman and was named the Final Four MVP. He decided to come out for the draft and the Cavaliers selected him with the 24th overall pick in the 2015 draft. Flip Saunders made the trade to acquire the point guard. As a rookie, he played an average of 15 minutes in a little less than half of the games. This year, he’s averaging a little over 10 minutes in a little more than half of the game. However, he has improved his shooting, including hitting 44% of three-pointers so far. One would think that if/when the Wolves trade Ricky Rubio, Jones (and Dunn) would both see quite a bit more playing time. Jones has improved his offense and defense. Because he is not a big guy, he will struggle defensively, particularly down on the post.

OTHERS?

Maybe there are other similarities. Could you compare Gorgui Dieng, a defensive stopper/rebounder to a guy like Ryan Pressly. Both have been around a few years and can be solid performers and may be underrated.

Or maybe we could say that Trevor May and Shabazz Muhammad are similar to their teams. Muhammad comes off the Wolves bench and can provide energy and some instant offense, hoping to end a run by the other team and giving the team back momentum. Maybe he could be compared to a Trevor May who is brought into the game to keep the opponents from taking back a lead and can energize the crowd by throwing hard and getting strikeouts.

Who is the Ricky Rubio of the Twins? Maybe Eddie Rosario?

SUMMARY

Maybe a couple of these are stretches, but it doesn’t lessen the thought that there are similarities.

The teams are young and their core players are very young. Maybe the concept of ‘veteran leadership’ does have some value. On a smaller roster like the Wolves, it may have an even more important role.

The Wolves core - Karl-Anthony Towns, Andrew Wiggins and Zach LaVine - are all 21-years-old. Kris Dunn is 22.

The Twins core - for their next playoff run (we hope) - includes Miguel Sano (23), Byron Buxton (23), Jose Berrios (22), Jorge Polanco (23) and Max Kepler (23).


Fans of these two teams should feel excited about the future of both organizations despite all of the losing in these seasons. There is value in taking lumps, making improvements and hopefully becoming a team that knows how to win.


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diehardtwinsfan
Jan 10 2017 07:28 AM

I hate basketball, but given they field 5 vs what is essentially 14 starters, I'd have to think things are looking better for the Wolves than the Twins.... if those players are really the NBA equivalent to the ones you mentioned... might not be this year, but as those guys come into their own, the Wolves will be a force to recon with.

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Torii Hunter = Kevin Garnett

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ashburyjohn
Jan 10 2017 09:16 AM

Nick Punto = Fred Hoiberg

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nicksaviking
Jan 10 2017 09:20 AM

Tom Thibodeau = ???

Ryan Mills = Derrick Williams.

Supposed to be the "safe" pick at their respective draft slot, and both were utter disappointments.
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Target Center = Target Field

 

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Buddy Holly
Jan 10 2017 10:09 AM

The key to your article is "Veteran Leadership". The Twins had Veteran Leadership during the 2015 season with Hunter. When he left, they searched for that person. Dozier tried to fill the shoes, but it seemed to effect his play in the field. Nunez was more of the Veteran on the field up to the time he was traded. I remember the night that Sano stood at 3rd base with his back to the outfield, while the ball blew back to about 10 feet behind him. Nunez stood and gave Sano and earful about getting his head in the game. Nunez was the only source of "Veteran Leadership" at the time. The Twins need a Veteran Leader on this team. Their is no Stat for leadership, that's where the GM needs to know his players. 

 

Target Center = Target Field

 

Between 7th street and 5th street = Between 7th street and 5th street. 

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Similarities between the Twins and the Wolves?

 

I say there is similarities between them, the Vikings, the Wild and so on. They all disappoint their fans. That's all you need to know.

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terrydactyls1947
Jan 10 2017 01:32 PM
Geez, this time of year must be extremely difficult for sports writers if this is the best article you can come up with. How about "Which Twin matches up best with Trump's proposed Cabinet?" Mauer and Sessions? Both stay to the far right - Maurer on the field and Sessions in real life. Ben Carson and Paul Molitor? Both Ppear clueless most of the time.

 

Geez, this time of year must be extremely difficult for sports writers if this is the best article you can come up with. How about "Which Twin matches up best with Trump's proposed Cabinet?" Mauer and Sessions? Both stay to the far right - Maurer on the field and Sessions in real life. Ben Carson and Paul Molitor? Both Ppear clueless most of the time.

 

I disagree. When the Twins put out the survey a few years ago asking which type of car the Twins should be, the door was forever left open for this sort of thing.

 

As for which Twins would most fit on the Trump cabinet, which of the players are against public service? Those would be the guys, but I don't think those players exist. The organization takes great pride in what it does for the community. Historically you could probably go with Jon Rauch, Kenny Rogers, or our favorite Delmon Young. Knoblauch too, but he might be too obvious, and I honestly don't think he was always a bad guy.

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BuxtonBandwagon
Jan 10 2017 01:56 PM

Another big similarity between the Wolves and Twins is each team was coming off momentum from the last year and could've added a few veteran pieces to help the young guys, but both chose not too and the teams struggled. Hopefully they both can turn it around though

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Pardon My Dinger
Jan 10 2017 04:59 PM
Neither team has any real options at SP?
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notoriousgod71
Jan 10 2017 05:24 PM

Mauer=Pekovic

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Tom Thibodeau = ???

Ray Miller?

I think the comparison is pretty solid between the two teams. Both have young talent that is immense, but they lack seasoning.To me the records are a result of having a very talented but inexperienced bunch versus having the moxy to close out games.When it comes to professional sports the competition level is high enough that some veteran cunning and guile will most often win out when compared to a team filled with potential.Both teams records have reeked the past few years, but the with talent level of the players and the leadership in place i’m excited for the next few years of both franchises.

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I think the comparison is pretty solid between the two teams. Both have young talent that is immense, but they lack seasoning.To me the records are a result of having a very talented but inexperienced bunch versus having the moxy to close out games.When it comes to professional sports the competition level is high enough that some veteran cunning and guile will most often win out when compared to a team filled with potential.Both teams records have reeked the past few years, but the with talent level of the players and the leadership in place i’m excited for the next few years of both franchises.

Ahoy there! Welcome aboard! 

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TheLeviathan
Jan 11 2017 12:45 PM

Other teams love to stuff their stat lines against them.


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