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Should Eddie Rosario Be Benched for Not Hustling?

Eddie Rosario is one of five Twins hitters to hit 30 home runs or more this season to help the team set a new standard at the big-league level. He was arguably one of the team’s best players during the 2018 campaign and he has helped the Twins to get to where they are this season. That being said, he might have cost the Twins the game on Wednesday night.

Does that mean the team should think about benching him for not hustling?
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Minnesota’s offense was sputtering against the White Sox as they used most of their bullpen to preserve a one-run lead. Rosario stepped up to the plate in the eighth inning with two outs already recorded. He smashed a ball to the right-field wall, but took some time admiring it in the box. The end result turned out to be what many consider a baseball sin… being thrown out at third for the final out of an inning.

In a year where home runs are flying out at a record pace, Rosario might have thought he had hit another home run. There’s also a chance that he didn’t think the center fielder would get over to help out on the play. Any of these excuses could apply to the play as it unfolded, but it still doesn’t make up for not hustling out of the box.

White Sox analyst Steve Stone called out Rosario after the play. “Eddie Rosario did not hustle out of the box and it’s a good thing for the Sox," Stone began. "He poses. If he's hustling, there's no play at third base."

Stone went on to say: "I mean, he's been doing this the whole series. And apparently the Twins are fine with it. This could cost them a ballgame. In the grand scheme of things, it might not keep them out of the division title, but you’ve got to hustle out of the box whether you think it’s a home run or not."

The Twins will still likely win the American League Central in the days ahead, but a close game against an inferior opponent isn’t exactly the time to let down your guard. Rosario is a leader on this team, and he needs show that on and off the field.

Twins Manager Rocco Baldelli didn’t seem too concerned about the play after the game. Minnesota might not have other options in the outfield either with Max Kepler continuing to be banged up. Rosario is back in the line-up on Thursday night, but maybe it’s time for Baldelli to send a message.

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Obviously, no. Of course not. Rosario is and has been one of the best players on the team. And his bat is finding the power stroke at exactly the right time, when the other two starting outfielders are absent. He got thrown out at third, trying to stretch an easy double into a triple. I don't have any issue with that. I do have issues with him lazily running to ground balls into the left field corner. Whether he is or not, he comes off pretty cocky. But he's turned into a hell of a ballplayer. And I think something not mentioned much in this thread is the importance of him in the clubhouse. I believe that a lot of the success of this years team is a result of chemistry. Just watching these guys, they seem to feed off of each other. And every single time, Rosie is right in the middle of it. Every single time. Unfortunately the fact is, you put up with the antics when he's producing and especially when we are winning. And I don't think his negatives have really outweighed the positives. He's come up with a lot of big hits and big plays. He's developed into a legitimate middle of the order bat and has a right field arm in left. Playing left field and batting cleanup, Eddie Rosario.
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Only Here in Negative
Sep 20 2019 10:54 PM

 

 

 

 

And dragging injury into this is completely off base. 

 

Why is dragging injury into this off base? Eddie Rosario has dealt with nagging leg injuries all year. I think its worth thinking about that in contemplating why he might be gauging how hard he needs to run on a ball to the wall. I also think its entirely relevant when we explain why every player doesn't Pete Rose it every play. It isn't just laziness or lack of hustle - there are real injury concerns that come into play. You're going to tweak a hammy a certain percentage of times you run all out. If you can keep the number of times you sprint down, you'll be healthier.

 

It's not different than telling a pitcher they don't need to throw it as hard as they can each pitch or strikeout each batter. Finding ways to succeed without doing that is the name of the game.

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Only Here in Negative
Sep 20 2019 11:00 PM

 

 

Pete Rose seemed to always give every play his best. And please don't tell me he was this super-athlete. He was an average sized ballplayer that had a passion for the game. When you're getting paid millions of dollars off the backs of hard-working folks that come to see you, I would expect total hustle on every play. That doesn't mean you should be running into walls full-speed, but you should be running as fast as you possibly can to each and every base. 

 

I'm always leery when someone uses an extraordinary example as the standard everyone should meet. Pete Rose was an extraordinarily competitive human being, an outlier out on the edges with Ty Cobb. He competed insanely and hustled relentlessly because he was driven to do so. He's not really reflective of all players. This is the guy who broke a catcher's arm in the All Star Game and never felt bad about it. The competitiveness made a good player great but it also alienated teammates and opponents and led pretty directly to his ban from baseball. I'm not saying he's not great, just that he's not a great reference since he's so far out there. It'd be like saying more baseball players should be like Ricky Henderson. Sure they should. But they can't, that's why he's Ricky.

 

Its easy to say that these guys should go all out every play but that's more of an ideal than a reality. Guys would get hurt busting tail down the line on every groundball. They'd hurt opponents barreling into second base at full speed. There's somewhere between Puig and Pete Rose that's ideal. Eddie Rosario wasn't it that play but saying "Every player should play all out because we pay them to do so" is a pretty Draconian way of viewing it and isn't particularly realistic. 

 

P.S. I'm wary whenever anyone uses the phrase "off the backs of the hardworking folks". There's an amount of hyperbole there that's a bit much. 

"That being said, he might have cost the Twins the game on Wednesday night."

 

Nah, 8 other dudes not hitting the ball cost them the game.

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How do you treat your job? Everyone reading and posting on this from their cube is totally loafing it to first.

If you’re ‘balls to the wall’ all the time you will burn out or get hurt. These guys have to make it through a taxing season. Expend energy when necessary. Conserve it when possible.

Sorry.What people do working in cubicles (not me) do for $60,000 a year is different from what ballplayers do.One doesn't translate into the other. Not just because of the money either.They don't play for a fan base and they aren't making millions to work 7 months a year.

 

The second part about deciding when and when not to expend energy is also bogus.Run out of the box.What is so hard about that?It doesn't need to be like 40 yard dash sprints but do it right.Among other habits Eddie has this is another one that isn't a good one.He is a frequent flyer in this regard.

 

And since you ask.....

As far as how I treat my job, I am a tenured teacher in the NY state system.The doors open in my school at 9:00 but I am often there at 7:00, 7:30 is late for me.I'm 23 years in so I really don't need to do it because I have something called tenure.So when you throw that question out there to me it completely backfires. Unlike you, I do not assume the people here openly slack at work in front of everyone.

Last night was not Rosario's first time to dog it. I absolutely hate plays where a player is not hustling 100%. I hope the matter has been handled privately, instead of publicly embarrassing the player. I hope Rocco said something to Eddie in private and hopefully Cruz did too.


I think every guy on the Twins roster has done something like that at some point in time. I agree that you handle that in house and remind him that of course every play is important and also that player life span doesn't last forever so take advantage of what you got when you have it so you have no regrets in the end. But doing something publicly does nothing for the concept of the team in the long run. You do something publicly when you are done with him and it's time to move on forever.
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Seeing Sano really hustle on two different plays last night tells me there was a discussion in the locker room.
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Hosken Bombo Disco
Sep 21 2019 12:09 PM

Sano has always hustled.

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How do you treat your job? Everyone reading and posting on this from their cube is totally loafing it to first.

If you’re ‘balls to the wall’ all the time you will burn out or get hurt. These guys have to make it through a taxing season. Expend energy when necessary. Conserve it when possible.


I'm "balls to the wall" at work when the situation calls for it...like running hard when I put a ball in play.

Other times at work I can relax a bit, like sitting on the bench waiting for my turn at bat.

I can assure you all my employers expected me to know the difference, and put forth the effort when called for. I suspect you're no different.
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Hosken Bombo Disco
Sep 21 2019 02:18 PM

Seeing Sano really hustle on two different plays last night tells me there was a discussion in the locker room.

I agree, there was probably a gut check in the clubhouse of some sort.

I posted that I felt Sano always hustles; that wasn’t meant as a rebuttal to your observation. It’s good to see hustle at this point from everyone.
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Sorry.What people do working in cubicles (not me) do for $60,000 a year is different from what ballplayers do.One doesn't translate into the other. Not just because of the money either.They don't play for a fan base and they aren't making millions to work 7 months a year.

 

The second part about deciding when and when not to expend energy is also bogus.Run out of the box.What is so hard about that?It doesn't need to be like 40 yard dash sprints but do it right.Among other habits Eddie has this is another one that isn't a good one.He is a frequent flyer in this regard.

 

And since you ask.....

As far as how I treat my job, I am a tenured teacher in the NY state system.The doors open in my school at 9:00 but I am often there at 7:00, 7:30 is late for me.I'm 23 years in so I really don't need to do it because I have something called tenure.So when you throw that question out there to me it completely backfires. Unlike you, I do not assume the people here openly slack at work in front of everyone.

Modern day athletes work more than 7 months a year, even if they aren't playing games

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Kelly Vance
Sep 21 2019 08:24 PM

In a word, No. Next question. 

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Brock Beauchamp
Sep 22 2019 01:12 AM

Rosario is not a perfect player but he's certainly interesting to watch.

 

When I really got tired of him was when he threw out Devers. What a slouch. He could have easily had him at least two feet earlier with a better throw.

 

But, alas, it's not as if that mattered much to the Twins season anyway.

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Rosario is not a perfect player but he's certainly interesting to watch.

 

When I really got tired of him was when he threw out Devers. What a slouch. He could have easily had him at least two feet earlier with a better throw.

 

But, alas, it's not as if that mattered much to the Twins season anyway.

Obviously you aren't into the criticism of Rosario and judging from the sarcasm here you must think it is irrational and unwarranted.OK....why not just up front rather than this baloney?

Just sayin

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That ball travels another 5 feet and this isn't even a conversation.


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