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Rosenthal: Twins Agree to Deal With Addison Reed

Most of the attention this offseason has been dedicated to the Twins' pursuit of top starting pitching options, but it appears they just made a significant upgrade to the bullpen. According to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, the Twins have agreed to a contract with Addison Reed, who was the third-ranked relief pitcher on the market per MLB Trade Rumors.
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According to Rosenthal's report, which has since been confirmed by several other reputable sources on Twitter, the two sides have agreed to a two-year pact.

UPDATE: Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports reported the deal at two-years, $16.75 million on Twitter.

MLB Trade Rumors predicted Reed would fetch a four-year, $36 million deal. In that same piece, the site ranked Reed 16th among its top 50 free agents, third among relievers, trailing only Wade Davis and Greg Holland.

According to Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports, Reed turned down longer-term deals in order to come to Minnesota.

Reed is from California, but spent the first three seasons of his career with the Chicago White Sox. Here's a look at his numbers from Baseball-Reference:
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Reed is the third relief pitcher the Twins have signed to a major league deal this offseason, joining Fernando Rodney and Zach Duke. Once the deal has been made official, the Twins will need to make room for Reed on their 40-man roster.

It appeared in mid-December that Reed was Philadelphia bound, but a deal never was finalized and the Phillies signed Tommy Hunter instead. There have been three relievers signed to three-year deals, all by the Colorado Rockies (Davis at $52 million, Bryan Shaw at $27 million and Jake McGee at $27 million), but it appears the Twins have been rewarded for waiting out the market. Reed's deal comes in just over what Pat Neshek got from the Phillies (two-years, $16.25 million) and just behind what Juan Nicasio got from the Mariners (two-years, $17 million).

Why were the Twins able to sign Reed to such a modest deal? That's a great question. Taking a look at his velocity numbers over at Brooks Baseball, there doesn't seem to be any cause for concern.
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Here's Reed's average fastball velocity the past four seasons: 93.33, 93.27, 93.22 and 92.93. So he has lost 0.4 mph over that span, but his swinging strike rate of 13.7 percent in 2017 was the highest he's posted since his rookie year.

What do you think about this signing and the overall upgrades made to the bullpen?

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ashburyjohn
Jan 13 2018 01:45 PM

I don’t want to rain on this parade, but this has to mean theyre out of the running for Darvish. This team isn’t going to have a $135M payroll.

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“I don’t want to rain on this parade, but this has to mean theyre out of the running for Darvish. This team isn’t going to have a $135M payroll.”

I hope you’re right. I’d much rather see the Twins send a few prospects and someone from our now-overpacked middle relief crew to Tampa Bay for Archer. Or wait on another starter this season and find a better deal on a top of the rotation guy for 2019.
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pierre75275
Jan 13 2018 01:52 PM
I don't think that us signing Reed doesn't mean we can't sign Dervish. We could back load or mid load the contract for instance
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Have a stronger bullpen has to be attractive for Darvish. I know I would love it if I had Buxton behind me and these guys coming in if I got in trouble. Is it true that insurance could cover portion of Hughes? Could we trade him to a team along with international money to take the contract off our hands?
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SgtSchmidt11
Jan 13 2018 01:55 PM
I made much the same signing in OOTP. Makes this extra fun for me.
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May not mean much, but clearly there's a working relationship between the agency and the Twins.

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I don’t want to rain on this parade, but this has to mean theyre out of the running for Darvish. This team isn’t going to have a $135M payroll.

The Twins have so much payroll coming off the books next year, that I think they can structure a deal with Darvish so that it doesn't balloon payroll to such an extent this season.

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ashburyjohn
Jan 13 2018 02:01 PM

I made much the same signing in OOTP. Makes this extra fun for me.

I got him for Brian Duensing a few years back. Didn't even have to add a sweetener; Duensing WAS the sweetener.

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jorgenswest
Jan 13 2018 02:09 PM
When all are healthy...

Rodney, Reed, Duke, Hildenberger, Rogers, Pressly might be the first 6.

Busenitz is a good fit for the seventh spot. He has options. Instead of going to 13 pitchers when the pen is exhausted they can send out Busenitz and call up Curtiss or maybe Chargois.
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But I thought the offseason already ended after Thanksgiving...
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Deduno Abides
Jan 13 2018 02:18 PM

I don’t want to rain on this parade, but this has to mean theyre out of the running for Darvish. This team isn’t going to have a $135M payroll.


I had the exact opposite inkling - signing Reed could make them more attractive to Darvish or other top starters.

It seems like a great signing, in terms of talent, years and money. Almost too good to pass up. If I’m the GM, I take this deal and figure out the future when it arrives.
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Nice signing, I think.Can we give Rodney back now or maybe trade him for Burdi?

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AlwaysinModeration
Jan 13 2018 02:28 PM
This is a big surprise. It must have just fallen in their lap, with the Midwest thing. Is he married/wife from Midwest?

Wade Davis signed for 17mm....per year! To get Addison Reed for two years for less than that total was brilliant.

I don’t think the Twins are out on Darvish. This is a huge opportunity to land the top FA pitcher. No other big spenders are playin this year, and the Twins have a window of competitiveness opening up now, with lots of payroll wiggle room, especially starting in 2019. Add in the Levine connection, too.

Honestly, I think the Twins are the favorite to sign Darvish, not out. I can’t believe I’m saying that, but I think it’s true.
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Tom Froemming
Jan 13 2018 02:43 PM

 

Wade Davis signed for 17mm....per year! To get Addison Reed for two years for less than that total was brilliant.

Yeah, this looks like a pretty incredible deal. Reed is three years younger than Davis, and here are their numbers the past three years combined:

 

Davis

169.1 IP

4.3 WAR

1.65 ERA

1.00 WHIP

3.19 K:BB

3.05 SIERA

 

Reed

209.2 IP

4.5 WAR

2.66 ERA

1.10 WHIP

4.64 K:BB

3.14 SIERA

 

I think their performance is a lot closer than a lot of people would've guessed, and I love that huge advantage Reed has in K:BB ratio. Straight up, of course you'd take Davis over Reed, but on the deals they signed Reed is the much better value in my eyes.

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Matthew Lenz
Jan 13 2018 02:45 PM
Nico job Twins FO. The Twins bullpen is going to be solid this year, even if Rodney were to fall off a cliff for some reason. Now on to Yu!
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twinsfanstreif
Jan 13 2018 02:45 PM

 

I don’t want to rain on this parade, but this has to mean theyre out of the running for Darvish. This team isn’t going to have a $135M payroll.

 

Why not? the Royals had a $140 million payroll last year which was the 15th highest payroll, smack dab in the middle of the league. Right behind them were the Rockies, Indians, and Astros with the Cardinals one spot ahead. The Twin Cities market is above all of those markets except Houston. I know the Pohlad's are notoriously cheap but windows can be short in the MLB and it looks like we are set to compete for at least the next few years. Also Levine/Falvey have made comments alluding to having a bigger budget this year so who knows

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Deduno Abides
Jan 13 2018 02:58 PM
Now, the dream for the GM would be to trade Hughes and someone like Enns for some Class A pitcher.
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Pohlad School of Building Success (PS...BS)

 

1) Remind Upper Management of past commitment levels

2) Keep Boss's favorite peeps around while restructuring Baseball Ops

3) Exceed expectations in first season at the helm

4) Bring back former players that boss's kids got to hang around

5) Show the boss a little success while it appears you're cutting back

 

Results in....

 

One-time free pass to raise the payroll to 60% of revenue ($250M x 60%) $150M maximum 2018 payroll

 

Researching success of latest Pohlad films for next post

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twinsfanstreif
Jan 13 2018 03:08 PM

 

Yeah, this looks like a pretty incredible deal. Reed is three years younger than Davis, and here are their numbers the past three years combined:

 

Davis

169.1 IP

4.3 WAR

1.65 ERA

1.00 WHIP

3.19 K:BB

3.05 SIERA

 

Reed

209.2 IP

4.5 WAR

2.66 ERA

1.10 WHIP

4.64 K:BB

3.14 SIERA

 

I think their performance is a lot closer than a lot of people would've guessed, and I love that huge advantage Reed has in K:BB ratio. Straight up, of course you'd take Davis over Reed, but on the deals they signed Reed is the much better value in my eyes.

also some of Reed's ERA problem in Boston was due to Fenway (and a little bad luck). His HR to fly ball rate with the Mets was 9.4%, it was 20.8% with Boston. He is a typical FB pitcher and that will play up well at Target Field especially with Buxton around

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Rhino and Compass
Jan 13 2018 03:30 PM

I've never been anywhere near optimistic about the Twins signing Darvish, so with that in mind, I'm quite pleased that the Twins aren't just sitting on their hands, while they wait for him to decide. Every pitcher helps

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Hosken Bombo Disco
Jan 13 2018 03:31 PM
Reed and Darvish share that agency - very interesting. This offseason is unfolding like a bad, slow, poorly written novel but with some interesting stuff at the end.

MLBTR just quoted Luhnow/Astros as being "very happy" with their current roster: in other words, not interested in Darvish (my interpretation). Angels have not been linked to Darvish at all. Dodgers aren't interested. Good cases have been made why he's not returning to Texas or going to New York. Gotta be down to the Twins or Cubs.
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TheLeviathan
Jan 13 2018 03:32 PM
This team can afford 150M if they are actually serious.
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Comrade Bork
Jan 13 2018 04:02 PM
Gotta find some of that Gleeman optimism!

I don’t want to rain on this parade, but this has to mean theyre out of the running for Darvish. This team isn’t going to have a $135M payroll.
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mikecgrimes
Jan 13 2018 04:12 PM
I'm of the belief that bullpen depth increases the value of every member of the bullpen by allowing better situational matchups for everyone. For that reason I was probably more sold on the Duke and Rodney signings then most. This is huge, now if we get one of those starters i almost think we are the division favorites.
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Winston Smith
Jan 13 2018 04:14 PM

Don't forget the Twins are getting a $50 mill check from MLB this spring, so they should be able to bump up the payroll this year with how low it starts going into next year.

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