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Report: Twins Nearing Multi-Year Deal with Michael Pineda

According to Peirre Noujaim from Fox 9 News in Minneapolis, the Minnesota Twins have reached a deal to keep veteran Michael Pineda with the team. His sources tell him that the deal is for two years and $20 million.

Dan Hayes reports that the deal is pending a physical.
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For the second time, it appears that the Twins will be signing right-handed pitcher Michael Pineda to a two-year deal. This one, however, is worth twice as much as his last deal.




Two years ago, the Twins signed Pineda to a two-year, $10 million. He spent most of 2018 rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. His rehab ended in September with a knee injury.

He started the 2019 season as the Twins #4 starter, but as the season went along, he became arguably their most reliable starter.

In 2019, he went 11-5 with a 4.01 ERA in 26 starts. In 146 innings, he walked just 28 and struck out 140 batters.

Unfortunately, his season ended early do to failing a PED test (the diuretic found in his system is said to be a masking agent, so he appealed and the suspension was reduced to 60 games.). He received a 60-game suspension. He will have to miss the first 39 games of the 2020 season.

But after serving the rest of the suspension, he will join a rotation that includes Jose Berrios and Jake Odorizzi. Should the Twins make the playoffs again in 2020, Pineda will be eligible.

The Twins are still reportedly in the bidding on veteran Madison Bumgarner as well.

Aaron Gleeman from The Athletic and Gleeman and the Geek tweeted out the top remaining free agent pitchers this morning.



According to his list, the Twins have now signed two of his top eight free agent starters already this offseason, Pineda (#8) and Jake Odorizzi (#6).

Dan Hayes, also of The Athletic, reports that the deal is pending a physical.


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Marv Gustafson
Dec 05 2019 07:26 PM
Yay, Let's keep the PED gang together! Too bad Ervin isn't available...or is he?
    • jbissell, Blackjack, mikelink45 and 6 others like this
Now sign MadBum and Alex Wood and the rotation is set.
    • birdwatcher, nokomismod, Sconnie and 2 others like this
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SF Twins Fan
Dec 05 2019 07:38 PM
Great! Now if they can sign Madbum this is looking like a solid rotation.
    • nokomismod, 70charger, DocBauer and 4 others like this
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Patrick Wozniak
Dec 05 2019 07:44 PM

Great news! I'm also really glad Odorizzi took the QO - he has to be regretting it at this point.

    • nokomismod, Dman, wabene and 1 other like this
I like this.
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Brock Beauchamp
Dec 05 2019 07:49 PM
Odorizzi and Pineda are just fine second and third moves.

Now go make a real move for someone at or above Berrios’ level.
    • SQUIRREL, USAFChief, BK432 and 24 others like this
Now sign Bumgarner and this rotation is looking much better.
    • nokomismod and wabene like this
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operation mindcrime
Dec 05 2019 07:59 PM
If he's our 4th or 5th starter I'll be okay with it!
    • Oldgoat_MN and BBAM like this
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railmarshalljon
Dec 05 2019 08:00 PM

Big Mike will be the best #5 in the league after we sign Cole and Strasburg. 

    • USAFChief, 70charger, Sconnie and 4 others like this

I'm glad the Twins took advantage of his depressed value due to the PEDs; this could end up being a real bargain, and at relatively low risk at just two years. 

    • Dantes929, Oldgoat_MN, 70charger and 5 others like this
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Hosken Bombo Disco
Dec 05 2019 08:02 PM
I am frankly surprised by this.
    • Oldgoat_MN, Jham and wabene like this
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Tom Froemming
Dec 05 2019 08:03 PM

This is a tremendous deal. By several metrics Pineda was better than both Wheeler and Bumgarner in 2019, and they're all very close in age.

    • glunn, birdwatcher, rukavina and 20 others like this
Super happy about this and glad it was for 2yrs and not one. A little less than I expected though. Thought they might have to go $12M
    • glunn, gil4, 70charger and 6 others like this

I think that the signings of Pineda and Odorizzi also suggest that the Twins provide an environment where players want to stay. 

    • birdwatcher, BK432, Riverbrian and 16 others like this
I think we’re sitting at a good point with our rotation now.
    • DocBauer likes this
Awesome. Love everything about this.
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FlauerPauer
Dec 05 2019 08:16 PM

Sign Bumgarner. Trade for a stud pitcher. Sign a backup catcher. Two bullpen additions via trade or free agency. Maybe sign that Japanese first baseman, and call it a day.

 

B+/A- offseason.

    • Twins33, nokomismod and Homer Hanky like this

He did not fail a PED test. He was dinked for the same substance that Vargas was dinked in the minors a few years ago:A diuretic.Meds that makes people pee to lose weight (hint hint) or to reduce their blood pressure. Steroid users are using them to induce frequent urination that would result to excretion of testable steroidmetabolites from their system.That's why it is banned.  Nothing like E. Santana taking Stanozolol (synthetic Testosterone...)

    • rukavina, brvama, Oldgoat_MN and 5 others like this

So isn't this deal technically like 2 years $17.5M after you factor in that he still has to finish serving the rest of his suspension?

 

Decent signing to be the 4th starter in the rotation.

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stringer bell
Dec 05 2019 08:28 PM

Can we be greedy and get Bumgarner and Keuchel? I'd take a rotation of Berríos, MadBum, Odorizzi, Keuchel and Pineda. 

    • NoCryingInBaseball, Dman, DocBauer and 4 others like this

 

He did not fail a PED test. He was dinked for the same substance that Vargas was dinked in the minors a few years ago:A diuretic.Meds that makes people pee to lose weight (hint hint) or to reduce their blood pressure. Steroid users are using them to induce frequent urination that would result to excretion of testable steroidmetabolites from their system.That's why it is banned.  Nothing like E. Santana taking Stanozolol (synthetic Testosterone...)

Or Polanco..... It drives me nuts when people say a diuretic is a PED. It's not. It doesn't make you faster or stronger. It's not a stimulant.It makes you pee, a lot.that's it.

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The Billy Goat
Dec 05 2019 08:29 PM

I love this signing.Not only is it a good value for the Twins, especially in this free agency market, but also gives them protection next off-season when Odorizzi is a free agent again.

    • glunn, birdwatcher, Oldgoat_MN and 6 others like this

Have to say I am relieved that we added another solid pitcher to the rotation and at a very fair price point to boot.Given the prices the second tier was receiving I was getting worried we might get aced out on the third tier as well.I was hoping they could get a two year deal and they managed to get it done.Since it was only a two year deal I thought it would cost more but 10M per year for a guy who was our top pitcher at the end of the year seems like a good get to me.  

 

This team should be a good fit for Pineda as well.Rocco will make sure he gets the rest he needs and the club house is good as well.I'd say he did well to stay in Minnesota.

    • glunn, brvama, DocBauer and 2 others like this
I don’t dislike the signing; I think it’s good. But it’s not impact to me. This is a very similar rotation to last season so far, so I’m hoping for one more of greater value.
    • Twins33, nicksaviking, Sconnie and 8 others like this
Love it. Very good deal, and really solidifies the back end of the rotation.

Still plenty of money laying around to target an decent pitcher like Ryu, Bumgarner, Keuchel and a bat for the infield.

I don’t even mind that he can’t pitch right away. We saw how effective he could last year under a somewhat limited load.
    • wabene likes this

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