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Prioritizing Trade Candidates for the Deadline

Few expected this 2018 Minnesota Twins team would be putting up the 'For Sale' sign in early July, but here we are. With a nightmarish road trip pushing them hopelessly out of contention, the Twins now have no choice but to unload assets and make whatever upgrades they can to move forward.

Let's take stock and assess what they've got.
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As is the nature of this miserable season, the Twins haven't seen trade candidates do much to build value, so the front office won't exactly be working from a position of great strength as the deadline approaches and buyers inquire.

With that said, here's how I'd rank players on the "sell" board – not strictly in terms of what they'll bring back, but how eager I'd be to deal them all things considered.

1. Brian Dozier, 2B

The hope was that, even if Minnesota slid out of contention during the first four months, Dozier would at least position himself as a coveted trade target.

Imagine if he put up the same kind of numbers that earned him an All-Star nod in the first half of 2015: .849 OPS, 19 home runs, 67 runs scored.

Coming off back-to-back campaigns that bordered on MVP-caliber, and entering a contract year, this sort of production seemed possible – if not probable – for the 31-year-old. Alas, much like everything else this year, it hasn't gone to plan.

Dozier entered play on Thursday with a .220/.308/.394 slash line. That batting average would rank as the worst of his career, and he hasn't posted a lower OPS since his tumultuous rookie season in 2012.

Despite the hugely disappointing output, Dozier will still be attractive as a trade candidate.

His clubhouse presence is reputed throughout the league. He has a recent history of catching fire down the stretch. And he'll only be owed about $3 million over the final two months of the season.

Those two months (plus postseason) are all that a theoretical trade partner will be getting, since Dozier becomes a free agent after the season, but he does have the potential to make a significant impact for a contender.

So I do think it's possible he yields a reasonably decent haul, especially if he gets rolling a little here in July. The front office will take any salary relief it can get after the 2018 fizzled out with an all-time high payroll.

One club to look out for on the Dozier front: Seattle. Yes, the Mariners will be getting Robinson Cano back from his suspension in mid-August, but he'll be coming off finger surgery and is ineligible for the playoffs.

Projected Return: 2 to 3 solid mid-level prospects

2. Fernando Rodney, RP

Out of all the moves Derek Falvey and Thad Levine made over the winter, signing Rodney may have drawn the most skepticism. He was, after all, a 41-year-old with a reputation for putting runners aboard and making things interesting. It was all too easy to see this acquisition backfiring.

Instead, it's actually proven to be their savviest move. The grizzled vet has looked as strong as ever, pumping fastballs in the mid-90s, and his control has actually been considerably improved from recent years – Rodney's 3.5 BB/9 is lower than any mark he's finished with in that category since 2012, when he was an All-Star and Cy Young candidate.

The righty holds a 3.18 ERA, 9.8 K/9 rate, and .626 opponents' OPS. He recently ended a streak of 15 straight converted saves.

It's true that relief pitchers don't tend to bring back a ton in deadline trades, owing to the fact they'll only pitch a couple dozen innings thereafter, but Rodney has a couple of factors adding to his appeal:

1) He is as experienced a relief arm as you're going to find on the market, with 16 seasons and 317 saves (tied with Craig Kimbrel for most among active players) under his belt.

2) He's not just a rental, necessarily. His contract includes a team option for $4.25 million next year, so he can easily be brought back on the cheap.

Whereas the market for Dozier will be narrowly defined (most contenders have players locked in at second base), most teams will be looking for bullpen help, so Rodney ought to draw more askers.

Projected Return: 1-to-2 decent prospects

3. Lance Lynn, SP

No one seemed to want Lynn much during the offseason, where he went unsigned before joining the Twins three weeks into spring training, and it's unlikely that has changed during the past few months. In 16 starts, Lynn has posted a 5.49 ERA and 1.68 WHIP while issuing more walks (50) than all but two other big-league starters.

On top of the poor numbers, there's the poor attitude; his perpetually visible grumpiness was passed off as competitiveness when he was pitching well for good Cardinals teams, but seems more sulky when he's struggling for a terrible Twins team. Lynn's failure to cover first base during a disastrous second inning in his latest start – subject of a frustrated Paul Molitor's venting after the game – is the kind of thing that is noticed and frowned upon.

Having said all that, Lynn is a vet with a lengthy track record of success, and his performance has generally been better of late; he posted a 3.27 ERA in May and June. There are also some promising underlying signs in his performance: a four-seamer averaging nearly 93 MPH, a career-high 10.6% swinging strike rate, and metrics like a .341 BABIP and sub-70% strand rate that suggest he's been victimized by unsustainably bad luck.

I've got to think someone will take a shot on him. He's a better bet than the fifth starters on several contenders and could be a real difference-maker if he gets invigorated and throws strikes. But the Twins will be lucky to get someone to eat all of his remaining ~$5 million in salary, and are very unlikely to get back on anything of consequence.

The real value here is in opening up a 40-man roster spot, and some innings for younger pitchers.

Projected Return: 1 non-prospect

4. Kyle Gibson, SP

Without question, Gibson would yield much more than Lynn in a trade. He has legitimately turned a corner in his career and is controllable through 2019, his final year of arbitration eligibility. But those very same factors should make Minnesota reluctant to move him.

Gibson is making $4.2 million this season (about one-third of Lynn's salary) after losing his arbitration case against the Twins. Presuming he stays healthy and on track the rest of the way, he'll get a healthy raise next year but still shouldn't make more than $10 million or so, a bargain for someone of his caliber.

As the Twins eye a quick return to contention, they'll certainly want to maintain their improvements in the rotation. Gibson's been such a big part of that, and figures to be a key depth piece next year with Lynn, Jake Odorizzi and Ervin Santana all potentially moving on.

For what it's worth, the Yankees reportedly had scouts on hand to watch Gibson's latest start.

Projected Return: 1 prospect that ranks in the 6-to-15 range on Twins top prospect list, and maybe another low-level guy

5. Zach Duke, RP

He has quietly been everything the Twins could've hoped for, turning in a 2.90 ERA, 2.49 FIP and 9.3 K/9 rate while allowing zero home runs in 38 appearances. His 0.7 WAR leads all Minnesota relievers.

Yet despite his fine work, Duke hasn't had a huge overall impact, evidenced by -0.40 WPA and only 31 innings pitchers through the team's first 82 games. It's the nature of his role, a limited one by convention, and that will limit his trade value. The Twins won't likely get much more substance in return for Duke than they did for Fernando Abad (remember Pat Light?), so they may be just as well holding on and letting him eat innings the rest of the way.

Projected Return: One prospect who ranks toward the back of Minnesota's Top 40

6. Eduardo Escobar, IF

He is Minnesota's most valuable trade chip among realistic candidates, to be sure. Escobar is having a career year at age 29, hitting .277/.335/.531 with a league-leading 34 doubles through the first half. He's a versatile and solid defender, beloved by all who spend time around him.

Similar attributes fueled Eduardo Nunez's value two years ago, when the Twins flipped him to San Francisco for Adalberto Mejia, now a long-term rotation candidate. Escobar's a better and more desirable player now than Nunez was then, so it's easy to see the appeal of floating him out there. Any quality prospect is worth more than two months of Esco in a lost season.

But there's a bit more to the equation than that. Once the season ends, Minnesota will be able to extend Escobar a qualifying offer. If accepted, he'll come back on a one-year deal worth around $18 million. If rejected, the Twins will net a high draft pick when he signs elsewhere.

That sure seems like a good plan. He probably takes the QO, but that would put the Twins in a good position. A one-year commitment to Escobar carries little risk – they'll be overpaying but shouldn't have any trouble affording it – and might be really handy as the club faces an uncertain outlook in the infield.

Obviously the conversation changes if the right offer comes along, but I lean toward holding onto Escobar.

Projected Return: Roughly the same as Gibson's

7. Jake Odorizzi, SP

This is really a take-it-or-leave-it situation. Like Gibson, Odorizzi has one year of arbitration eligibility remaining, so the Twins will have an option to bring him back on the cheap(ish). But the trajectories of these two careers have moved in opposite directions – Gibson sharply ascending and Odorizzi in stark decline.

Inefficient, homer-prone and unable to work deep into games (he hasn't recorded an out in the seventh all year), Odorizzi is pitching as poorly as he has at any point in his career. The Twins got him from Tampa in exchange for Jermaine Palacios, who ranked outside their Top 20 prospects when they dealt him, and they'd get less for him now.

At this point it's a little hard to envision Odorizzi figuring into the team's 2019 plans, but you never know what'll happen, and that optional control is nice to have.

Projected Return: Roughly the same as Duke's

8. Everyone Else

To me, those are the names worth discussing. Other impending free agents either have too little value to merit mentioning (Logan Morrison) or a no-trade clause (Joe Mauer).

Some might suggest a name like Addison Reed but it's hard to see the wisdom in trading him with his stock at perhaps an all-time low.

There are, of course, more ambitious and outside-the-box ideas, like selling high on Eddie Rosario, or giving up on Max Kepler, or shipping Ryan Pressly – despite his controllability – to a team that looks at his stuff and whiffs more than his lack of results. But those options don't interest me all that much.

What interests you in terms of a deadline approach? I'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments.

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Unless the Twins get a better offer for Dozier than is likely, I suspect the best course would be to keep him. If Dozier has a huge second half like in previous years, he might get back to a point where the qualifying offer makes sense which is probably the best possible outcome at this point. 

 

As for the rest of the trade options, I'd keep Odorizzi, Gibson, and Escobar (with the intent of extending a qualifying offer). I'd look to trade Lynn, Rodney, Morrison (more likely to be waived), and Duke.

 

I have zero interest in taking the chance he accepts the QO....zero.

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yarnivek1972
Jul 06 2018 03:09 PM

I have zero interest in taking the chance he accepts the QO....zero.


Even if it means getting a lesser than that prospect in return for him now? I thinl the chances of Dozier accepting it are slim to none. He has a better chance convincing other teams that 2018 was an abberation due to being on a bad team than he does coming back, risk having another subpar year or getting hurt and being a FA another year older.

Falvey and Levine are all about analytics and numbers, supposedly. I think the numbers say roll the dice that he won't accept.
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TheLeviathan
Jul 06 2018 03:29 PM

We are tossing around QO for Escobar and Dozier, I don't think 17M would be required for either player in order to keep them on a short term basis.

 

Moustakas and others are a good example of that IMO.

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Even if it means getting a lesser than that prospect in return for him now? I thinl the chances of Dozier accepting it are slim to none. He has a better chance convincing other teams that 2018 was an abberation due to being on a bad team than he does coming back, risk having another subpar year or getting hurt and being a FA another year older.

Falvey and Levine are all about analytics and numbers, supposedly. I think the numbers say roll the dice that he won't accept.


Correct. I have no interest in him accepting, and I think he does not likely than not.
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yarnivek1972
Jul 06 2018 04:15 PM

Correct. I have no interest in him accepting, and I think he does not likely than not.


I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but I legitimately don't understand this statement.
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nicksaviking
Jul 06 2018 04:24 PM

We rarely know what is actually out there. Sometimes taking an offer that is less than what you hoped is still better than getting nothing.

We all get how this works, trades are an unpredictable endeavor. However, this team should be moving at least a half dozen players this summer most of which will bring back returns ranges from "OK, I can live with that" to "Not another Cash Considerations or a PTBNL!!!". Gibson's the only one with potential to increase his value to something substantial.

Unless they do nothing they should be flooded with more organizational filler than they can handle. They wouldn't be risking much to roll the dice that Gibson doesn't blow out his arm in the next three months.

We are tossing around QO for Escobar and Dozier, I don't think 17M would be required for either player in order to keep them on a short term basis.

Moustakas and others are a good example of that IMO.


After last offseason it's certainly possible agents adjust their method and advise players to accept the QO.

 

I don't really disagree with you (though don't really agree either :)), but the benefit is that you free up a spot for a younger player to come up and play nearly every day and get his feet wet for next season.I think that experience is very valuable to a player.

What players have ever benefited from the late season call up and who is the equivalentplayer now in Rochester

 

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but I legitimately don't understand this statement.

 there is an extra not in there.....which should be a "more"....sigh. 

 

I think he accepts the QO, and I'd hate to pay him 17MM next year.

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TheLeviathan
Jul 06 2018 04:55 PM

 

We all get how this works, trades are an unpredictable endeavor. However, this team should be moving at least a half dozen players this summer most of which will bring back returns ranges from "OK, I can live with that" to "Not another Cash Considerations or a PTBNL!!!". Gibson's the only one with potential to increase his value to something substantial.

Unless they do nothing they should be flooded with more organizational filler than they can handle. They wouldn't be risking much to roll the dice that Gibson doesn't blow out his arm in the next three months.

 

I just don't see how August and September are going to move the needle on Gibson.That's essentially what you're saying - Aug and September will make him more valuable in December.

 

Right now his most valuable asset is he'll give you a year plus of team control.I think his team control right now is worth more than any increments of value you might accrue by him continuing to pitch well for two meaningless months with the Twins.

 

I see little or no upside in waiting on him. 

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TheLeviathan
Jul 06 2018 04:57 PM

 

After last offseason it's certainly possible agents adjust their method and advise players to accept the QO.

 

All the more reason not to offer those two a QO.I am under no illusion about the team spending big this offseason, but tying up 34M in these two doesn't sit well with me.

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Here's my Take.

 

The Twins have two deadlines: Starting today and going thru the end of July, trding someone.

The entire month of August, but hopefully soon out of the gate, putting players on waivers and letting them to whomever places a claim.

 

Sadly, there is not alot to offer in trade, just a dangle and the possibility of getting something in return besides salary relief. Of course, players that you have little but salary invested in, you should be happy to get anything.

 

Allowing a team to walk with a player in August is true salary relief from a body that you have no interest in retaining. If you can still get a prospect back, more power. Happily, you don't have to negotiate with a waiver claim in August. The team takes the player and their contract as is.

 

That said, some thoughts.

 

The Twins NEED to see any and all players that will be contributing to the team in 2019 and beyond. If they have no chance of being on the 2019 roster, let them go sooner rather than later. If there is a smidgen of a chance that they won't be here in 2020 (Odorizzi and Gibson are the notables), try and trade.

 

That said:

 

Catcher. You have to see if Mitch Garver can improve. Bobby Wilson, bless his sole, should've been working with the arms of the future at Rochester more than up here. Now it is too late to consider him a Crash Davis as, according to my plan, the young arms he would work with will be mostly up here. Thus, you can look at Graterol or Rupp as the temporary backup for this year, is Willians isn't competent. Are any of the alternatives prospects for 2019? Probably not. And, remember, we will still have Castro and his framing glove abck for another year in 2019. So we should be content that we have a decent bench bat who can catch in Garver for 2019, as well as Castro, who isn't going anywhere unless he is so injured that he never plays ball again. You lose Wilson and get a 40-man. You might add Graterol/Rupp for the season to take that 40-man spot.

 

INFIELD: The Brian Dozier era is done, sad to say. Two factors. He clearly expressed an interest to look at free agency. The team has no desire to sign him longterm or for extended years. Trade him for a prospect (or two) and if you want to revisit him in the offseason, you will be able to do that at a possible lower cost. 40-man spot cleared. Bring up Nick Gordon, who may not be ready, but play him and see what he has to work on. At best, he does adequate and leans. At worse, you send him down in 3/4 weeks to work a bit more at AAA. He takes your open 40-man spot.

 

KEEPERS: Polanco, Adrianza. Escobar. Ehire is your swing man. Polanco is the shortstop (or the second baseman if you ditch Dozier and play Gordon at short). Escobar is at third. You explore with Eduarco an extension. AT worse, you have him for three years and either trade him in one or have an expensive utility infielder. At worse, he tanks next year totally. So what is an Escobar gamble? Three years? $20 million? $25 million? As you start thinking more, you start wondering if something abck in trade is more worthwhile and, like Dozier, you take a chance in offseason offers being low. Remember, you don't get a guy cheaper unless he enters the free agency marketplace with another team's cap. We have Motter currently on the disabled list. He goes and you have a free 40-man spot.

 

JOE MAUER:.Right now, I look at Joe in two ways. Either this is his swan song with the Twins, you announce it now that he is more than likely leaving the game, and give him a farewell tour. Or you trade Joe to Boston or Chicago Cubs if they want him with a chance to be in the post season and end his career that way. Hasw the front office made it clear not to bring Joe back? Public relations nightmare? Maybe not as bad as one would think. You need to entertain offers and discuss with Joe and force him to make a career decision. Combined with Logan Morrison, who is a slim possibility of getting you a return of a body at the trade deadline and more likely to get a waiver claim and a salary writeoff, you might be oipen to two roster spots. My choices, then, bring back Kennys Cargas as a last chance looksee. And if you have two, Chris Carter can't contribute any worse with the bat than Logan Morrison and would also be resignable, perhaps, for 2019. At the outside, you push up Brent Rooker.

 

OUTFIELD: Rosario, Kepler, Cave. That's are set grouping for now. Convince me the need to bring Grossman back for 2019? If not, replace him with Granite and let's see Zack get sometime in centerfield, like 15-20 games, and if he can be a 4th outfielder or some speed on the path. If 40-man space exists, go ahead and advance LaMonte Wade. Or at least aim for that direction come September.

 

MIGUEL SANO and BYRON BUXTON - keep them in the minors until necessarily needed (they become too hot in the minors or your current players are worse than the stats the two put up already for 2018). But you now have the luxury of looking at some other pieces, decided if Miguel or Escobar will be at third, if Miguel can play 1st, or be dommed to DH land.

 

THE ROTATION. Trade Lynn if there are any takers. Showcase santana and, at the last, allow him to be a waiver claim. You can deal with him in the off-season then. Think of what his value MAY be. Same, again, for Lynn. I'm sure msot folks would agree there is no need to offer Lance Lynn an extended contract.

 

Kyle Gibson and Jake Odorizzi. Both trade guys. You should be able to generate some offers. Yes, both COULD make the team in 2019. But do you really see them as Twins in 2020. Do you have faith in better arms ahead?

 

Go with a 6-man rotation for the rest of the season: Berrios, Slegers, Mejia, Littell, Goncalves. You are killing Rochester. At some point you bring up May and Stewart (whom you need to decide if you wish to add to the 40-man anyways). What have you got to lose. All except Steward are on the 40-man. You will be removing 2-3 pitchers from the 40-man.Remember, Pinedas might also be returning for some September innings.

 

THE BULLPEN: Trade Fernando Rodney and Zach Duke. Both should be pieces that could go as early as tomorrow. Think about jettisoning Addison Reed is someone wants, you free up his expense for 2019. You have so many arms in the minors: Duffey, Reed, Curtis,. Moya, Busenitz already on the 40-man. Vets like Omar Bencomo and Paco Rodriguez. 40-man considerations like Nick Anderson, Luke Bard, Tyler Jay. Maybe even Baxendale should be considered. You lose 3-4 40-man spots in the bullpen (remember, Belisle is taking a spot).

 

You aren't getting much back in return, sadly, except some non-payouts in salary to offset the empty seats during August/September. You have a lot of cheap jerseys to sell at the State Fai.

 

You have a couple of looksees who may not fit into 2019 in the black hole of 1B/DH in Vargas and Carter. You have to make a big decision on Sano. You have to think about spending money on Escobar, or find some guy named Petit to come back until you can enter the off-season.

 

Joe Mauer is becoming more of an issue than a franchise player and the pluf has to be pulled.

 

And, you pull the plug early on manager. Let the front office bring up their guy, Joel Skinner, to finish the season.

 

But you GET RID OF ANYONE/EVERYONE WHO WON'T BE AROUND IN 2019 TODAY...not tomorrow. You question keeping some of the 2019s who don't stand a chance of being here in 2020. Go forth with the plan, teh rebuilding plan!

 

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yarnivek1972
Jul 06 2018 05:09 PM
I don’t understand calls for a 6 man rotation. Wasn’t this idea shot down as impractical a month or so ago?

How do you have 6 starters, 8 relievers and still have any semblance of a bench? Having 6 starters certainly doesn’t preclude the need for 8 relievers. It’s not workable. It worked for the Angels because one of their starting pitchers was also their DH.
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Okay, how about this? If Jake Cave is the real deal, trade Buxton?

 

Or, drop Grossman and make Cave the 4th outfielder and keep him in games by rotating him through the outfield spots?

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What players have ever benefited from the late season call up and who is the equivalent player now in Rochester

Are you suggesting that experience doesn't help one learn?

How can it not help? Getting a taste and to know what you need to work on during the off-season to make the active roster in the spring. Experience is never a bad thing. If experience didn't matter, nobody would ever get better at what they do.

It doesn't have to be someone from Rochester. It could be anyone that is called up. That experience gives them lessons that can't be taught anywhere but game situations at the highest level.
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Kelly Vance
Jul 06 2018 08:42 PM

Tonight Dick and Bert agreed that it is not smart to trade Eduardo. He is not just a good player, they said, but he is a leader and respected and liked by his team mates. They said that he is a catalyst for good team chemistry. 

 

Just what I have been saying. 

 

I hope they extend Eduardo for 3.  

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TheLeviathan
Jul 06 2018 08:47 PM

I generally live my life by "What would Dick and Bert agree on" and then do the exact opposite of that.

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yarnivek1972
Jul 06 2018 09:01 PM
So, MOY using Rodney on 0 days rest in a non save situation.

I’d bet Rogers can get 3 outs without giving up 4 runs.

Oops. Somehow I thought this was the game thread.

So, MOY using Rodney on 0 days rest in a non save situation.

I’d bet Rogers can get 3 outs without giving up 4 runs.


Or just leave Matthew in.

 

Are you suggesting that experience doesn't help one learn?

How can it not help? Getting a taste and to know what you need to work on during the off-season to make the active roster in the spring. Experience is never a bad thing. If experience didn't matter, nobody would ever get better at what they do.

It doesn't have to be someone from Rochester. It could be anyone that is called up. That experience gives them lessons that can't be taught anywhere but game situations at the highest level.

So, do you put a fourth grader getting b grades in a college prep class? Sure they will fail, but what a learning experience.If a player is ready to be called up in July or August they will likely get the call. If not, forexperience, a September call up works.If Cave fails Wade will get a chance with or without a trade. Rooker is likely a September call up. I doubt he would get the cal before then. He hasn't even faced AAA pitching.AA was an adjustment at first.

 

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So, do you put a fourth grader getting b grades in a college prep class? Sure they will fail, but what a learning experience. If a player is ready to be called up in July or August they will likely get the call. If not, for experience, a September call up works. If Cave fails Wade will get a chance with or without a trade. Rooker is likely a September call up. I doubt he would get the cal before then. He hasn't even faced AAA pitching. AA was an adjustment at first.


Worked for Doogie Houser....
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Kelly Vance
Jul 06 2018 09:24 PM

 

Okay, how about this? If Jake Cave is the real deal, trade Buxton?

 

Or, drop Grossman and make Cave the 4th outfielder and keep him in games by rotating him through the outfield spots?

The second idea.

 

But I'd just make him play CF if he can, so Keps and Eddie can stay at home. Why disturb the entire group? Although I am not averse to cross training outfields for a little while. I always believed that switching things up made them better at backing each other up. It also helps them learn the field, the whole field, and this helps with general field awareness.  Its good to see the play from a different angle. But then on a regular basis play them where they are best at. 

 

 

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Kelly Vance
Jul 06 2018 10:21 PM

They expand the rosters and allow call ups for a reason. And that reason is not to discourage young guys showing off. Minors are auditions for the majors. So September calls ups doing great is a great story.

 

But next year is a long way off. And with the Twins, their mind is often so made up (well, maybe Molly's is) that they may as well not even say that there are open roster spots going into spring training. 

 

Lamarre batted .485 in spring training and Molly didn't play him even when he was hotternhell. He played favorites with Grossman, who I like by the way, and played him instead. So why bother busting your ass if you are Lamarre?

 

Molly plays favorites with pitchers too. He over uses certain relievers, like they are so much 6'2'' security blankets. I want to think he will learn.

 

Put me down as in favor of giving AA players --- who are hot --- a chance to jump the line in September and make it. Where is the crime in that? 

 

I don't know how many times a minor leaguer has made the team the next year by a good September. But I will tell you, that the real question for me is ...."Do minor leaguers believe... and will they take their shot...?" I hope so.

 

Makes for interesting Septembers.

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So, do you put a fourth grader getting b grades in a college prep class? Sure they will fail, but what a learning experience.If a player is ready to be called up in July or August they will likely get the call. If not, forexperience, a September call up works.If Cave fails Wade will get a chance with or without a trade. Rooker is likely a September call up. I doubt he would get the cal before then. He hasn't even faced AAA pitching.AA was an adjustment at first.

You asked me what players have ever benefited from the late season call up, implying that that experience doesn't matter. Obviously you aren't going to call up someone that isn't already on the cusp anyway. I wasn't suggesting that you do. If you think I was speaking about Gordon in particular, I wasn't. My initial comment was a general statement about getting players experience.Nothing more, nothing less. Trading players opens opportunities for other players and that experience has value.  

 

 

Worked for Doogie Houser....

Dougir houser was not a b student.


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