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Official Winter Meetings Thursday Thread

It’s the final day of the Winter Meetings. Things have been very quiet on the Twins front, to be sure, but that doesn’t mean it’ll stay that way. There were a couple of major moves made on Wednesday, and of course, the Rule 5 draft will take place this morning.

The Rule 5 draft is often called the official end of the Winter Meetings, but it has also been a day of moves. It’s like it is the last day where teams and/or agents can meet in person and they want to reach agreements before they fly home. Two years ago, the Twins announced the signing of Ervin Santana moments after the Rule 5 draft. Five years ago, the Twins and Phillies made the Ben Revere for Vance Worley and Trevor May trade.
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Before we get to the Rule 5 discussion, let’s start with the moves from Wednesday:

The Nationals didn’t get Chris Sale, and they couldn’t reach an agreement with the Pirates on Andrew McCutchen. So, they turned their attention to the White Sox. Mid-afternoon, it was announced that the Nationals had acquired outfielder Adam Eaton in exchange for three right-handed pitching prospects. Lucas Giolito was the Nationals top prospect and the top pitching prospect as recently as midseason. Reynaldo Lopez was their #3 prospect. Dane Dunning was their #6 prospect and the team’s first-round pick last June.

Adam Eaton is a real solid player, but there is no question that the Chicago White Sox did very well for themselves. Eaton is controlled through the 2021 season which made him very appealing to the Nationals. He also is an elite right fielder, though he will likely play centerfield for the Nationals.

The White Sox have certainly changed the outlook of their minor league system. They had one of the worst minor league systems in baseball two days ago. Along with the three pitchers, they acquired baseball’s top prospect, Yoan Moncada, and hard-throwing Michael Kopech plus two more prospects from the Red Sox in the Chris Sale trade a day earlier.

The White Sox will likely still be looking to deal 1B Jose Abreu, 3B Todd Frazier, LH SP Jose Quintana, and Closer David Robertson, each likely adding multiple quality prospects.

Robertson should bring back a quality return thanks to the crazy closer market this week. It started with All Star Mark Melancon getting a four year, $62 million deal with the Giants. Wade Davis was officially traded to the Cubs on Wednesday morning for outfielder Jorge Soler. There were rumors 24 hours ago about Aroldis Chapman being offered $92 million. Late on Wednesday, he signed a five year, $86 million to return to the Yankees.

That leaves Kenley Jansen as the big remaining closer on the free agent market. The Marlins are very much interested, but the Nationals must remain interested too. Of course, Robertson is likely appealing to many teams as well, and frankly, with the White Sox plans for 2017, they don’t need an elite closer.

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RULE 5 DISCUSSION

Early this morning, the Rule 5 draft will take place. In the past, there were three phases of the Rule 5 draft, the MLB phase, AAA and AA phases. This year, there will be the MLB and the Minor League Rule 5 drafts. Makes sense. In recent years, few players were taken from the AA portion of the draft.

The other change is that it will cost a team $100,000 to make a Rule 5 pick. It has been $50,000 for many years.

As Nick wrote yesterday, there are at least nine relief pitchers available to teams in the Rule 5 draft today who have hit triple digits with their fastball. Could the Twins be interested in one of them?

For the most part, people seem to believe this is a fairly weak group of prospects eligible to be selected. The Twins brass noted yesterday that they are receiving a lot of phone calls and interest in the #1 pick in today’s Rule 5 draft. I would not be surprised at all if the Twins trade that #1 pick.

Of course, we won’t know about the trade until after the draft is complete. It’s possible they could trade with a team lower in the draft in exchange for their pick and cash. There could be other trade options.

If you’re looking for names that the Twins might take in the Rule 5 draft, here is Baseball America’s list and here are five names (And two more) to watchaccording to Thrylos from his blog other day.

It’s hard to predict who the Twins might take with their Rule 5 pick. It’s probably even harder to figure out which Twins players the other organizations might have interest in. However, here are some guys I think have a chance of being selected from the Twins:

#1 - Aaron Slegers - The 6-10 right-hander was the Twins 5th round pick in 2013 out of Indiana. He has gradually moved up, one step a year, and he’s always been solid. He isn’t overpowering, but he has good control and a good start pitch-mix that he could certainly be intriguing.

#2 - DJ Baxendale - He’s been primarily a starting pitcher in since he was the Twins 10th round pick in 2012 out of Arkansas. However, he kind of stalled at AA. He moved up to AAA and into the Red Wings bullpen where is fastball/slider mix proved to be good. He doesn’t throw very hard.

#3 - Yorman Landa - I’m not certain if the hard-throwing right-hander is eligible or not. It was mentioned the other day that Landa had re-signed with the Twins. If he actually already put pen to paper, he would be another triple-digit right-hander available to teams in the Rule 5 draft.

#4 - Niko Goodrum - He could have become a free agent, but he chose to sign back with the Twins right after the season. He’s just kind of coming into his own and his raw athleticism turned into some decent numbers in 2016, despite missing the first two months with injury. He could be interesting to teams because he can play three or four positions on the field.

#5 - Stuart Turner - We’ve seen the value of defense at catcher in recent years escalate. For his shortcomings with the bat, Turner is very good behind the plate. I still believe that he has the approach at the plate and some pop to eventually hit a little bit. But his defense can make him a solid backup backstop.

#6 - Lewis Thorpe - He’s missed the last two seasons after Tommy John surgery, but he was a top prospect before the injury, and he is very talented. And he’s still just 21 years old. He is a question to be able to stick on a roster after so much missed time (and not pitching above Low A), but he has the upside to be very intriguing to teams.

We’ll get an article posted as soon as the Twins make their Rule 5 pick, and we’ll update it with any players that they should lose in the drafts. We’ll also update it should the Twins announce any trade regarding their Rule 5 pick. So be sure to check back.


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Apparently, the Twins are going to trade their pick to the Padres, according to Jonathan Mayo on Twitter.

 

https://twitter.com/...847348521496577

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AlwaysinModeration
Dec 08 2016 07:10 AM
While teams usually pack up and fly it after the Rule 5 draft...the brand new, massive MGM Casino is opening at National Harbor this evening. Just saying.
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Apparently, the Twins are going to trade their pick to the Padres, according to Jonathan Mayo on Twitter.

 

https://twitter.com/...847348521496577

This probably means the Dodger trade is going down

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HitInAPinch
Dec 08 2016 07:46 AM

C'mon Twins.Give us something, ANYTHING, that we can hang our hats on!

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JaleelWhite FanClub
Dec 08 2016 07:57 AM

Anybody else super excited about the Eaton trade and what it means for a possible Dozier deal? I mean, Eaton's a nice player, but I can't believe he's worth the haul the Nationals gave up. Giolito alone, maybe.

 

I feel like the Dodgers and Nationals are in the same win-now mode and might give up more than they should for "the final piece to the puzzle." (knock on wood) Here's to hoping if Dozier is traded we get at least two stud prospects back in return.

The Eaton trade was highway robbery.

Twins select RHP Miguel Diaz but rumor of a trade to Padres.  Padres selected SS Alan Cordova.  Swap?

 

Also C Stuart Turner claimed by the Reds (who selected two catchers - seems unlikely both stick).

Now Berardino saying the Twins are trading Diaz for Justin Haley ...

 

https://twitter.com/...865703257174016

Anybody else feel like Ralphie on Christmas looking for his Red Rider BB gun under the tree?

I'm hoping that Levine/Falvey have it hidden in the corner too.
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While teams usually pack up and fly it after the Rule 5 draft...the brand new, massive MGM Casino is opening at National Harbor this evening. Just saying.

Wow, they actually built that casino. You think at some point cities would learn from the follies of Detroit, Atlantic City, LA etc...

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So who will start now? The Twins have a bunch of guys on the 40-man who can start:

 

Ervin Santana

Jose Berrios

Justin Haley

Kyle Gibson

Mejia

Trevor May

Santiago

Duffey

Hughes

 

I imagine May and Duffey go to the pen and so may Haley, if he makes the team, while Mejia stays in AAA. 

 

But I'd rather Hughes go to the pen and May start.

I'd expect that Haley is ticketed for the pen.  (Haven't seen many Rule 5 starter pitchers actually starting right away)

 

I'd like to see May start, but Santana-Gibson-Santiago-Hughes-Berrios have to be considered near locks as long as they don't get traded and show up healthy.

 

Any word from the new regime about their plans for Trevor May?  (Sorry, way off topic, I know)

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Taildragger8791
Dec 08 2016 12:19 PM

 

So who will start now? The Twins have a bunch of guys on the 40-man who can start:

 

Ervin Santana

Jose Berrios

Justin Haley

Kyle Gibson

Mejia

Trevor May

Santiago

Duffey

Hughes

 

I imagine May and Duffey go to the pen and so may Haley, if he makes the team, while Mejia stays in AAA. 

 

But I'd rather Hughes go to the pen and May start.

 

Seems to me it should be Santana, Berrios, Gibson, May, and Santiago. This is the last chance to find out if May can start, and see if he stays healthier doing so. Everyone else to the bullpen, AAA, or DL (Hughes, I assume). Hughes can go to the bullpen when he returns. If De Leon shows up it'll get interesting but I'd still start him off in AAA and work guys in as injuries/non-performance open up opportunities.

 

Seems to me it should be Santana, Berrios, Gibson, May, and Santiago. This is the last chance to find out if May can start, and see if he stays healthier doing so. Everyone else to the bullpen, AAA, or DL (Hughes, I assume). Hughes can go to the bullpen when he returns. If De Leon shows up it'll get interesting but I'd still start him off in AAA and work guys in as injuries/non-performance open up opportunities.

 

I would agree with this. I'd rather May start. And I expect that Haley would be a long reliever, at least at first.

 

Hughes should also go to the bullpen. But I expect the Twins will have him start.

 

Add to this a potential Dozier trade, maybe the Twins need to part with a starter.

 

So who will start now? The Twins have a bunch of guys on the 40-man who can start:

 

Ervin Santana

Jose Berrios

Justin Haley

Kyle Gibson

Mejia

Trevor May

Santiago

Duffey

Hughes

 

I imagine May and Duffey go to the pen and so may Haley, if he makes the team, while Mejia stays in AAA. 

 

But I'd rather Hughes go to the pen and May start.

To start the year it's probably E San, Gibson, Santiago, Berrios, May or Hughes. Though I would hope once the season gets rolling that they shuffle the cards until they find something that works. 


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