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Article: Would You Rather: Darvish or a Cobb/Lynn Combo?

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It’s possible both Alex Cobb and Lance Lynn end up costing roughly the same amount combined as Yu Darvish all on his own. Add to the top...
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Please pass on Yu Darvish Twins

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As much as it would be good for a couple of years it would not be a wise decision to invest over $150M for a SP who by the way will be tu...
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Article: Twelve's A Crowd: Twins Are Rolling In Relief

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Minnesota's signing of righty reliever Addison Reed to a two-year, $16.25 million contract, which became official on Monday, was stunning...
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MIN 4, MIL 0: Big Sexy With 7 Scoreless Lifts Twins Back to .500

I don’t know where Bartolo Colon found the cheat code that’s allowing him to do the things he’s doing at 44-years-old, but this sure is fun. Big Sexy followed up a complete game by throwing seven shutout innings against the Brewers Wednesday night, boosting the Twins to their fourth straight win.
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Win Expectancy (via Fangraphs)
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There are very few things I feel I know for certain about baseball, and one of them is that the game is very difficult. That being the case, how in the world is it possible that Bartolo Colon can make it look this easy?

Big Sexy cruised through 7.0 innings of work, holding the Brewers scoreless on five hits and a walk. He even struck out five batters. Milwaukee only managed to get two runners as far as second base against Colon, one of who was after the Twins had already built a 4-0 lead.

You know what? Jorge Polanco and Brian Dozier have also been making baseball look really easy so far this month. Polanco got the scoring started with an RBI double in the second inning. He had a single later on in the game, and is now 12-for-24 so far in August. The second run came on yet another Dozier home run in the third inning, which was his fifth homer of the month.

The Twins tacked on two more runs in the seventh, one on a Joe Mauer reached-on- error and the other on a Miguel Sano double. Taylor Rogers pitched a perfect eighth and Matt Belisle struck out the side in the ninth. It was Belisle’s third outing in the past four games and it was not a save situation. Here’s hoping Paul Molitor doesn’t regret running him out there somewhere down the road.

The victory gives Minnesota four straight wins, which is their longest winning streak since May 21-24. This streak has also put the Twins back to .500.

Postgame With Polanco

Twins W-L Record
Overall: 56-56 (.500)
Last 10: 6-4 (.600)
Last 20: 9-11 (.450)
Last 40: 18-22 (.450)
Last 80: 38-42 (.475)

Defensive Lineups
Here’s a look at the starting lineups from the past seven games:
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Bullpen Usage
Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:
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Looking Ahead
Thursday: Twins (Dietrich Enns) at Milwaukee (Zach Davies), 7:10 pm CT

The Twins acquired Enns in the trade that sent Jaime Garcia to the Yankees. He’ll be making his major league debut. The 26-year-old lefty has made just eight starts in Triple-A this season, posting a 2.38 ERA and 1.08 WHIP while averaging 8.1 K/9.

To make room on the 25-man roster, poor Kennys Vargas is being optioned back to Rochester yet again.

Friday: Twins (Kyle Gibson) at Detroit (Anibal Sanchez), 6:10 pm CT
Saturday: Twins (TBD) at Detroit (Jordan Zimmermann), 5:10 pm CT

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Other than Berrios, the Twins current starting pitchers aren't flamethrowers. For the most part, Gibson, Santana and Colon rely on command and movement to get outs. Every time I've seen/heard anyone discuss the subject, they say those type of pitchers tend to do worse with extra rest.
 

 

Source? Otherwise that's just you saying you read something some time.

 

I can see how flamethrowers would be helped more but I don't see how command guys would be hurt by extra rest. They still have to hit their (lower) velocity and they have the same recovery path between starts. An extra day should help anyone.

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Brock Beauchamp
Aug 11 2017 12:04 PM

 

Source? Otherwise that's just you saying you read something some time.

 

I can see how flamethrowers would be helped more but I don't see how command guys would be hurt by extra rest. They still have to hit their (lower) velocity and they have the same recovery path between starts. An extra day should help anyone.

The only reference I've heard to some pitchers struggling with extra rest are guys who rely on sink. Which makes sense, as if you overthrow a pitch that is supposed to sink, it... doesn't. And that means it sails right through the batter's wheelhouse. And that means the ball lands somewhere very far away from the batter's box.

 

But I've never heard of command guys struggling with extra rest.

The only reference I've heard to some pitchers struggling with extra rest are guys who rely on sink. Which makes sense, as if you overthrow a pitch that is supposed to sink, it... doesn't. And that means it sails right through the batter's wheelhouse. And that means the ball lands somewhere very far away from the batter's box.

But I've never heard of command guys struggling with extra rest.


Even if it makes sense with a sinkerballer, I'm not sure I've seen data that shows it's true.

The one pitcher I remember it being said for a lot was Blackburn. So I checked his splits.

Career OPS against:
4 days rest: (1730 PA) .833
5 days rest: (1129 PA) .844
6+ days rest: (595 PA) .753

The numbers are basically the same on 4 or 5 days rest, and on 6+ they are far better, not worse.
The K and bb rates are mostly the same, btw, it's the slugging that changes.
In Blackburns case he does a better job limiting hard hit balls with more rest.

This is only one guy, but my hunch is that its one of those things that people say because it makes logical sense, but isn't actually true.

I'd be interested in seeing more data, but I think that the advantage of extra rest more than makes up for any disadvantage, even for sinkerballers.
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Brock Beauchamp
Aug 11 2017 02:56 PM

 

Even if it makes sense with a sinkerballer, I'm not sure I've seen data that shows it's true.

The one pitcher I remember it being said for a lot was Blackburn. So I checked his splits.

Career OPS against:
4 days rest: (1730 PA) .833
5 days rest: (1129 PA) .844
6+ days rest: (595 PA) .753

The numbers are basically the same on 4 or 5 days rest, and on 6+ they are far better, not worse.
The K and bb rates are mostly the same, btw, it's the slugging that changes.
In Blackburns case he does a better job limiting hard hit balls with more rest.

This is only one guy, but my hunch is that its one of those things that people say because it makes logical sense, but isn't actually true.

I'd be interested in seeing more data, but I think that the advantage of extra rest more than makes up for any disadvantage, even for sinkerballers.

Yeah, I never really fully bought into the idea, only accepted that it was possible because the thinking makes some sense.

 

Jim Kaat always said that a pitchers arm will "rust out before it wears out".  

 

Kaat was in the majors for a long time, but even his arm wore down. Moving to the pen is what kept him on the field at the end of career, which goes against his statement.

Kaat was in the majors for a long time, but even his arm wore down. Moving to the pen is what kept him on the field at the end of career, which goes against his statement.


4000+ IP, pitched into his 40s. I'd say his arm rusted out.
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The front office should offer him the Bobby Bonilla Special.

 

He should be a bargain in 2032 when his contract runs out.


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