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Jonathan Schoop Becoming the Odd Man Out

Luis Arraez has been a revelation for the Twins offense and at the same time, Ehire Adrianza has been a very strong utility player. Jonathan Schoop was brought in to take over second base from fan favorite Brian Dozier. He’s had some great hot streaks, but it might make more sense to play Arraez and Adrianza at this point. Could Schoop become the odd-man out?
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The Twins had a lot of questions when it came to replacing Brian Dozier this off-season. Jonathan Schoop seemed to be a nice, short-term solution at second base. Ehire Adrianza has always seemed to fit the role of utility infielder and few could have predicted the impact Luis Arraez would have at the big-league level.

Over the last two seasons, Adrianza has hit .254/.319/.384 with 40 extra-base hits in 176 games. He has also shown defensive flexibility by playing all over the infield including over 660 innings at shortstop during that stretch. Schoop is limited to playing second base as he has logged less than 230 innings at other positions throughout his seven years at the MLB level.

The rise of Arraez has also cut into Schoop's time on the field. As a 22-year old, Arraez has put together some unbelievably professional at-bats in his 182 plate appearances. Entering play on Tuesday, he is hitting .356/.429/.444 and he might have a strong argument to be named the AL Rookie of the Year. First year manager Rocco Baldelli certainly has faith in Arraez and if the playoffs started today Arraez would be penciled in at second base.

Schoop has compiled some strong numbers in a Twins uniform and Baseball Reference has he accounting for 1.2 WAR. May was a good month for him as he posted an .835 OPS with six home runs and five doubles. He hasn’t had more than four home runs in any other month and his OPS dipped to .622 in June and .787 in July.

Since the calendar turned to August, he’s gone 1-for-5 with no extra-base hits. He’s also only started one game in that stretch, Saturday’s contest with the Royals. Currently, the Twins have gotten by with having him relegated to a bench role. What happens if the club needs another relief pitcher? This could force the front office to make a choice between Schoop and one of the other infielders. At this point, Schoop might be the odd man out.

While Schoop has been worth more than replacement level when it comes to WAR, his win probability added total is one of the worst totals of his career. He entered play on Tuesday with a -1.28 WPA. His only year with a lower total was 2014 with the Orioles when he accounted for a -3.00 WPA. Schoop has the lowest WPA among qualified batters on the Twins roster and he’s over a full win lower than the next closest qualified batter.

Schoop could have some big hits for the Twins in the weeks ahead but he shouldn’t be taking at-bats away from Arraez. At season’s end, Schoop will be a free agent and Arraez will enter the year as the team’s starting second baseman.

It helps to have Schoop to add depth to the roster, but it’s getting closer to the point where he might be holding the team back from adding other players (especially pitchers). Do you think it’s time to cut Schoop loose? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.

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Schoop's lack of position flexibility certainly hurts his ability to contribute.But as far as bench bat, and insurance should Arraez flutter, he's a great asset. 

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FWIW Schoop played 3B in Baltimore.

FWIW Schoop played 3B in Baltimore.


Meh, it's not like he would play over Sano or Marwin at that position either.
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jorgenswest
Aug 07 2019 11:13 AM

Assuming everyone else is healthy, I don’t think there is any chance Schoop makes the playoff roster. Which is another reason why I believe Rooker will get called up on Sep 1.
7 relievers SHOULD be plenty for postseason when there are never more than 3 days without a day off. So, 14 position players. That’s the “regular” 9, Marwin, Castro, Astudillo, Adrianza and then Cave, Schoop or someone else. IMO neither Cave or Schoop offer much value as a bench player. Rooker may not either, but I suspect the Twins will want to leave open that chance.


I value Schoop’s performance against left handed pitching and his strong arm at 2B. I am platooning Arraez and Schoop at 2B.

I find his WPA interesting. He seems pretty anti-clutch.

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yarnivek1972
Aug 07 2019 11:29 AM

I value Schoop’s performance against left handed pitching and his strong arm at 2B. I am platooning Arraez and Schoop at 2B.


Marwin is considerably better vs LHP. And when factoring in that a lot of Schoop’s numbers have been produced in very low leverage at bats, I don’t think it’s worth it. Not if Rooker shows ability to hit MLB pitching in September.

Earlier in the season there was talk about how long we'd have to carry Adrianza once Sano came back. Most seemed to think he didn't add much value, especially with La Tortuga available. Forget about who goes if another reliever is added - who goes if/when Astudillo is ready?

Earlier in the season there was talk about how long we'd have to carry Adrianza once Sano came back. Most seemed to think he didn't add much value, especially with La Tortuga available. Forget about who goes if another reliever is added - who goes if/when Astudillo is ready?


Astudillo.

 

 


May was a good month for him as he posted an .835 OPS with six home runs and five doubles. .622 in June and .787 in July.

 

 

So Basically, this provides no indication of how he will perform in August or September.:)

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yarnivek1972
Aug 07 2019 06:45 PM

So Basically, this provides no indication of how he will perform in August or September. :)


Somewhere between .622 and .835?
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Somewhere between .622 and .835?

 

Or Higher?

 

Or Lower? 

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Riverbrian- too funny. I'm still chuckling.
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tarheeltwinsfan
Aug 08 2019 06:33 AM

 

Though my problem with Sano also had to do with plate approach more than numbers....

My eyes tell me that Sano's plate approach has improved the last month or so. Do the stats bare this out? 

@What's his OPS, that wasn't my point as this was in reference to someone claiming he could only play one position therefore his value diminished. 

 

I'm not calling for Schoop to replace Sano at the moment but he's certainly a valuable backup at either 2B or 3B. 


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