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DET 5, MIN 3: Tigers Out-Tater Twins, Gardy Gets Tossed

The Tigers decided to take a page out of the Twins’ playbook and hit four home runs in the first of two games at Target Field today. Detroit ended up taking the advantage in the ninth inning, as Rocco Baldelli decided to go with Trevor Hildenberger over Taylor Rogers.
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Game 1 Box Score
Pineda: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 68.4% strikes (65 of 96 pitches)
Home Runs: Castro (5), Cron (8)
Multi-Hit Games: Castro (2-for-4, HR)
WPA of +0.1: Cron .288, Harper .161, Castro .127
WPA of -0.1: Cruz -.120, Rosario -.137, Kepler -.214, HIldenberger -.402
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(chart via FanGraphs)

The Twins entered the ninth inning tied and had a freakishly fresh bullpen to work with. Rocco Baldelli had both Trevor Hildenberger and Taylor Rogers warming in the pen during the bottom of the eighth inning. He went with Hildy. It didn’t work out.

Hildenberger gave up a solo homer, his first home run allowed this season, and allowed a second Tiger run to score in the inning. He’s now surrendered eight runs in his last six appearances. You have to wonder when it’s time to roll him back to low-leverage work whenever possible.

Michael Pineda started this game. In the fourth inning, he gave up his third home run of the day to the struggling Tigers lineup, sparking conversations about what to do about his spot in the rotation going forward.

He ended up providing a quality start.

The Twins’ starting pitching has been so dominant of late that a performance the club would have been desperate for from a back of the rotation guy in recent years inspires cause for concern in 2019. Pineda ended up giving up just those three runs on the solo homers over his six innings of work.

Pineda did get an assist from Ryne Harper, who stranded two inherited runners in the seventh, but Big Mike ended up surrendering just six hits and didn’t walk anyone. Serving up taters is bad, obviously, but Pineda has always done a nice job limiting damage by limiting free passes. He now has 35 strikeouts and just nine walks on the season, a 3.88 K:BB ratio. That ranks second on the starting staff behind only Jose Berrios.

In the sixth inning, Jason Castro appeared to have been hit by a pitch. Detroit should have left well enough alone, but instead they challenged the call and it was overturned. Castro responded by destroying a home run to bring the Twins within a run of the Tigers. C.J. Cron tied things up in the eighth with a home run of his own.

Unfortunately, that’s when Hildenberger came in and allowed Detroit to re-take the lead. The Twins’ lineup failed to make the most of their opportunities in this game. They drew five walks and had a batter hit by a pitch, but were also 0-for-5 with runners in scoring position and left 10 men on base.

Ron Gardenhire was ejected from this game, drawing a fun reaction from the Target Field crowd. Good to see Gardy still has some fire left in him.

Bonus Fun with Morneau and Perkins

Bullpen Usage
Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:
Attached Image: Pen511g1.png
Next Three Games
Sun vs. DET, 1:10 pm CT (Perez-Norris)
Mon vs. LAA, 6:40 pm CT (TBD)
Tue vs. LAA, 6:40 pm CT (TBD)

Last Game
MIN 6, DET 0: Odorizzi Deals (Again), Twins Win Fourth in a Row


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42 Comments

 

Score more than 2 runs off the rookie and then we can talk.Team left 10 men on base.Asking Hildy to throw a clean inning against the Tigers isn't a fantasy.If I am "pinning" the loss on anyone it's the offense personally.

This rookie has an ERA of 2.42 this year. I guess he is not an ordinary rookie. I am pinning the loss on the fact that Hildenberg gave up 2 ERs in only one inning. Unfortunately it is the most important inning in the game. Tell me which is worse scoring 2 runs in 5.2 innings against a pretty good rookie or giving up 2 runs in just one inning against a bad lineup. Again no excuse for Hildenberg or the manager who put him in the game.

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Aerodeliria
May 12 2019 03:53 AM
This kind of loss will happen to the Twins from time to time. The Twins are a good team but with paper thin margins when injuries crop up. I mean were now plugging in a player who is hitting .130 after his 'big' offensive day.
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Don't Feed the Greed Guy
May 12 2019 04:47 AM
Send down Hildy and call Glen "The Hobbit" Perkins out of retirement. He's rockin' that Amish beard!
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AlwaysinModeration
May 12 2019 05:26 AM

Saved Rogers for a lead


Would have been waiting a long time for this. Forever, even.
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diehardtwinsfan
May 12 2019 08:13 AM

Like it or not, Rocco is going to have to be pretty careful with the pen. We play 10 straight games and only have a couple relievers that we can ride in situations like that.

 

Guys like Hildy have to come through. He didn't unfortunately. He's also come through at other times this year, so I'm not quite ready to give up on him... one thing that does seem rather odd is that he's not as good starting clean innings than as when coming in during a bad one. Not quite sure what to make of that... SSS I know, but he's given up a lot of runs when he's had time to warm up. 

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This rookie has an ERA of 2.42 this year. I guess he is not an ordinary rookie. I am pinning the loss on the fact that Hildenberg gave up 2 ERs in only one inning. Unfortunately it is the most important inning in the game. Tell me which is worse scoring 2 runs in 5.2 innings against a pretty good rookie or giving up 2 runs in just one inning against a bad lineup. Again no excuse for Hildenberg or the manager who put him in the game.

the blame falls on the front office who built a pen that includes Hildenberger as a featured piece.
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Sorry, wasn't clear there, my bad. If you demote him from high leverage situations, who moves into them?

The solution is not obvious, but at this point it might be Harper or Magill.Unless there is a minor league option we cannot drop Hildenberger, we are already short of relievers.However, we cannot make the mistake of relying on him like we did the end of last year.He seems to have a limit to effective innings and is better used less often. 

You lose some from time to time. Hildy has been pretty damn good all year.

That said, I'm not sure I like Baldelli's decision to bring him in, that should be May there. Or Parker. Or whomever your best reliever is.


Agreed. Hildenberger has been very good. Now he's had a couple bad games in a row. Such is the nature of life as a RP. Now, if the trend continues and doesnt reverse itself soon, it's time to worry.

That being said, I still dont understand May for a handful of pitches. No reason he couldn't have and shouldn't have started a clean 9th.

Very hard to win a game only scoring 3 runs and leaving how many guys in scoring position?

Lost in all of this is Pineda's best start. 3 runs in 6 IP is 3 runs in 6 IP no matter how you look at it. When his performance is something to complain about, you really dont have anything to complain about.

I would prefer Duffey over Hildenberg right now.

Hildenberger's stat line since the all-star break last year do not lie.

 

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TheLeviathan
May 12 2019 02:10 PM

 

Since when a 5.68 ERA and a 1.74 WHIP is "pretty damn good"? Maybe for the other teams...

 

 

Is this argument for real?Dude made 13 appearances in March/April with a 1.93 ERA.Yeah, I'm going to look past a couple rough patches and say that, by and large, he's been pretty good for us.Especially given how high leverage the situations were he was being used in.

 

He's struggling hard right now, but that's also a problem we've seen from him.He seems to be a bit streaky.Hence why he shouldn't be considered one of our top relievers.

 

Since when a 5.68 ERA and a 1.74 WHIP is "pretty damn good"? Maybe for the other teams...

 

And for the last part of 2018, after the all-star game.....
 

9.00 ERA, 1.81 WHIP, .325 average against.

He was really only "real good" in May, and pretty good in June.

 

I want him to be good, too. And I remember the game this year he came in with the bases sacked and mowed 'em down. But facts are facts.

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TheLeviathan
May 12 2019 02:26 PM

 

 

I want him to be good, too. And I remember the game this year he came in with the bases sacked and mowed 'em down. But facts are facts.

 

How were his 13 appearances in April?

 

How were his 13 appearances in April?

 One month a year does not make for a reliable option. And the 5 inherited runners scored that created 3 losses ( I think 3, without looking it up, at least 2....) count too in April, even though it was passed on to his teammate's stats. I want him to be good, too. But when he is sucking..... just throwing him out there again the next day does not mean he will change overnight.

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TheLeviathan
May 12 2019 03:01 PM

 

 One month a year does not make for a reliable option. And the 5 inherited runners scored that created 3 losses ( I think 3, without looking it up, at least 2....) count too in April, even though it was passed on to his teammate's stats. I want him to be good, too. But when he is sucking..... just throwing him out there again the next day does not mean he will change overnight.

 

I have no issue with most of this.However, MOST of this season he has been reliable for this team.Hell, I don't think it's hyperbole to say he came in and bailed us out of several losses in April.He was getting thrown into a ridiculous number of high leverage situations too.(He leads all of baseball in having had 19 inherited runners)

 

Edit: He only really cost us the Toronto game.3 of the 5 inherited runners scored in NY when we were already down 6-1.We rallied a bit to make it look closer.

 

He's been brutal in May so far and you're right - when he's brutal - stop putting him into anything resembling a high leverage situation.He's streaky, so ride him when he's hot and bury him when he's not.What I take issue with is the idea he wasn't good in April.He absolutely was.  

Hildenberg is really the difference in these two games against the Tigers. 2 innings 4 runs. I am certain the Tigers figured him out. Hildenberg needs to get more innings in AAA.

If Romero has more command of his pitches, he is certainly a better pitcher than Hildenberg. Duffey is a better option than Hildenberg right now.


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