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DET 5, MIN 2: Bulldog Berrios and the Addison Reed Experience

On the mound for the Twins on Wednesday night, was phenom Jose Berrios. Heading into the game he got quite the compliment from a Hall of Fame pitcher.

Berrios did his best to live up to that comparison, also reminding Tiger’s manager Ron Gardenhire of a Twins Hall of Famer he used to coach all night.

Unfortunately, something may not be right with Addison Reed. He would be charged with his fourth blown save in his last seven appearances, making Berrios’ best effort at an impersonation all for naught.
Image courtesy of © Rick Osentoski-USA TODAY Sports
Snapshot (chart via FanGraphs)
Current record: 29-35
Jose Berrios: 58 Game Score, 6.0 IP, 1 ER, 7, 1 BB, 71.7% strikes
Bullpen: 2.0 IP, 3 ER (4 R), 1 K, 0 BB
Lineup: 1-for-4 w/RISP, 6 LOB
Top three per WPA: Berrios .304, Pressly .112, Escobar .108
Attached Image: WP chart.png
The Twins jumped on Tigers starter Matthew Boyd in the first inning, with Brian Dozier getting hit by a pitch to lead off the game in front of a double from Eddie Rosario and a two-RBI single from the still scorching Eduardo Escobar.

#OldFriend Niko Goodrum got to Berrios in the second with a solo shot (his sixth of the year) to close the gap to 2-1, but that would be it for Ron Gardenhire’s squad against him. After that blast, Berrios buckled down and picked up six of his seven K’s, several to escape scoring chances as the Tigers went 0-for-8 with runners in scoring position against him.

After a one-two-three seventh inning from Ryan Pressly, Twins fans were treated to the Addison Reed Experience. Again.

Five singles and an ugly throwing error from Robbie Grossman led to four runs in the eighth inning and it was all over. Reed has now allowed a run in five of his last seven appearances, raising his ERA over a full run from 2.60 to 3.78 over that time frame.

The offense again held much of the blame in this one, as they managed just two more hits on the game after putting up a crooked number in the first.

At least we were able to watch Berrios out-maneuver the Tigers for six innings in ace fashion.

Postgame With Molitor


Bullpen Usage
Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:
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AL Central Standings
CLE 35-30
DET 32-37 (-5)
MIN 29-35 (-5.5)
CHW 23-42 (-12)
KC 22-46 (-14)

Next Three Games
Thu @ DET, 12:10PM CST – RHP Lancy Lynn (4-4, 5.08 ERA)
Fri @ CLE, 6:10PM CST – RHP Kyle Gibson (1-4, 3.45 ERA)
Sat @ CLE, 3:10PM CST – RHP Fernando Romero (3-2, 3.92 ERA)

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MIN 6, DET 4: More Grand Slams, Please
MIN 7, LAA 5: Jake Cave Sparks a Fire
LAA 2, MIN 1: Is This a Rerun?

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Reed has certainly been unreliable of late, but this outing was more unfortunate than purely bad pitching. Unlike the other recent outings full of walks, HBP and long balls, Reed was actually getting ahead of most the hitters and then giving up weak, seeing-eye contact on what always seemed to be an 0-2 pitch. He's been frustrating to watch, but this appearance isn't a microcosm of his struggles.
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Carole Keller
Jun 14 2018 05:51 AM

This has been my grumble for years about Dozier. There normally nothing wrong with his end of the year stats, but he has never seemed to perform well in the clutch. It's why I was never an advocate for him as a middle of the order hitter. It's probably the only agreement that the MOY and I have.


I’ve been advocating they move him to the 7th or 8th spot until he starts hitting.
    • jun, tarheeltwinsfan, Platoon and 1 other like this

 

It would be great if the Twins had Palka and Goodrum instead of Grossman and Adrianza. Palka can really hit and have serious power. Goodrum is a super utility guy with some good pop.

I do not think the Twins smart guys ever talked about Niko and many laughed when Gardy grabbed him!Who wants Palka went you have have Grossman and Morrison?And now we grab Belisle instead of a minor leaguer and leave Gordon in the minors.What is going on?

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Reed has certainly been unreliable of late, but this outing was more unfortunate than purely bad pitching. Unlike the other recent outings full of walks, HBP and long balls, Reed was actually getting ahead of most the hitters and then giving up weak, seeing-eye contact on what always seemed to be an 0-2 pitch. He's been frustrating to watch, but this appearance isn't a microcosm of his struggles.


IMO giving up 0-2 hits isn’t “unfortunate.” It’s an indication of poor “stuff,” poor location, and/or poor pitch selection.

I didn’t view last night as at all unlucky. It was more of the same. Too many 90 MPH fastballs in very bad locations.
    • h2oface, jun, mikelink45 and 3 others like this

 

Sigh... Reed has really hurt the team this year. Probably wouldn't hurt to, you know, try someone else in close, late inning games.

Same story, different day with this offense.

That's why we got that old dependable Vet Belisle.Why would we used some young and lively arms from the minors?

 

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Tom Froemming
Jun 14 2018 05:59 AM

Reed needs to work some low-leverage situations to get pointed in the right direction, but ...

 

Here are the hit probabilities on the five hits he gave up: 66, 44, 16, 53, 86. It was basically a bunch of seeing-eye singles, outside of the last one. I think he's going to eventually be fine, but you just can't keep pitching a guy who's struggling this badly in one-run ballgames.

    • Carole Keller, Steve Lein, Oldgoat_MN and 3 others like this
I'll echo the question -- why was Grossman in the outfield protecting a 1 run lead in the 8th? Or in the outfield at all? We have 4 real outfielders on the roster.

Also just noticed Grossman struck out to end the top of the 8th. Would have been trivial to replace him at that point.
    • Carole Keller, Mike Sixel, 70charger and 5 others like this

Just plain ugly finish.I count three games of the last 8 or 10 we could have, should have won.Come September, three games will count.  

 

And what a job by Berrios, who wasn't at his best. I found the comments about Pedro interesting as I have been talking about that comparison for a couple years.   

 

per gleeman:

 

Brian Dozier in "close and late" spots:
2014 - .177 AVG
2015 - .229 AVG
2016 - .177 AVG
2017 - .176 AVG
2018 - .159 AVG
Career - .195 AVG

Not only is his .195 AVG the worst in Twins history, it's the worst in MLB history among all players with at least as many plate appearances.

 

We know he will get hot sooner or later, but we keep talking about Sano and Buxton torpedoing our season...

 

This is one decision (by not signing Dozier this last off season) where I applaud the FO.  Our offense is bad!!!!

 

I don't blame the front office one bit for not committing to these guys when you have performances like this.Look at the garbage numbers Dozier, Buxton and Sano have put up this year.I'm tired of the excuses.No extensions until they have a solid full season, even if it means that Dozier is not resigned this off-season.Just my opinion but the priorities need to be extensions for Berrios, Rosario and Escobar.

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Reed needs to work some low-leverage situations to get pointed in the right direction, but ...

Here are the hit probabilities on the five hits he gave up: 66, 44, 16, 53, 86. It was basically a bunch of seeing-eye singles, outside of the last one. I think he's going to eventually be fine, but you just can't keep pitching a guy who's struggling this badly in one-run ballgames.


A modern MLB reliever has to miss some bats. Reed 21 had 5 guys at 0-2 and couldn't strike any of them out! 3 base hits from those guys instead.
    • Carole Keller, USAFChief, jun and 4 others like this

Liked Molitor when he was signed on as Manager. Why not give him a shot, see what he can do? Going thru his 3rd season, I've seen enough. Too many mistakes. Last night was very indicative of that. He needs to go.

    • jun, laloesch, David HK and 1 other like this

 

Those are nice secondary moves. Getting a new manager would be primary for me.

 

Thank you!!! They can't get any worse by firing Molitor...but they could get better. Really hope a change is made - the front office has to at least try something before they give up on the season.

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Molitor isn't going anywhere right after winning MOY and signing a 3 year contract. And he can learn. The egregious bunting from the last couple of years has not been seen this year.

Maybe we can get the pitching coach to decide who is available to pitch. That might protect the pitchers.

Then we can get someone to play some of the younger players when they first come up instead of riding the bench most of their first few weeks in MLB.

 

Now, if we can find someone to make up the line-up card, Molitor could start looking just fine...

    • jun, birddog, Platoon and 2 others like this

 

Sigh... Reed has really hurt the team this year. Probably wouldn't hurt to, you know, try someone else in close, late inning games.

Same story, different day with this offense.

"I got you, fam." - Matty B.

 

Matt+Belisle+Minnesota+Twins+Photo+Day+P

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I'll echo the question -- why was Grossman in the outfield protecting a 1 run lead in the 8th? Or in the outfield at all? We have 4 real outfielders on the roster.

Also just noticed Grossman struck out to end the top of the 8th. Would have been trivial to replace him at that point.


As we saw last night, he has a rocket arm in RF!
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yarnivek1972
Jun 14 2018 06:31 AM
The bunting hasn’t been there because there are rarely runners on base with 0 outs.
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IMO giving up 0-2 hits isn’t “unfortunate.” It’s an indication of poor “stuff,” poor location, and/or poor pitch selection.

I didn’t view last night as at all unlucky. It was more of the same. Too many 90 MPH fastballs in very bad locations.

A bit of bad luck too though.It wasn't filled with self inflicted errors like HBP and walks.At least the batter still has to hit the hittable pitch.

 

This is probably splitting hairs though.He's clearly not right and Molitor keeps trotting him out there as often as he's ever done.

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Mauer, Wade, Gordon, Astudillo and Sawyer should be up. Grossman should be released. Sano, Wilson, Garver and LaMarre should be demoted. 

As much as I'd love to see Gordon called up this summer, I don't see that happening as long as we still have Dozier starting at 2B. I could either way on Wade, but I'd like to see Astudillo given a try as catcher. Who is Sawyer?

 

As we saw last night, he has a rocket arm in RF!

I think Wile E Coyote and ACME were impressed!

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RatherBeGolfing
Jun 14 2018 06:52 AM

Isn't it bad that when they left runners on in the first that I had a bad feeling we may not get another chance like that again?

 

Yes, I felt that way......... in the first inning.......... against Detroit.

 

The margin for error with this team is just so slim

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terrydactyls1947
Jun 14 2018 06:52 AM

As much as I'd love to see Gordon called up this summer, I don't see that happening as long as we still have Dozier starting at 2B. I could either way on Wade, but I'd like to see Astudillo given a try as catcher. Who is Sawyer?


Sawyer is the second catcher in Rochester and he is hitting .316.
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lukeduke1980
Jun 14 2018 06:56 AM

The worst thing I saw last night was Sano now striking out against fastballs over the plate

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I also wanted to mention...last night's top of the 8th was why you put the contact play on. Escobar's at third, with one out. Sano hits a chopper that the pitcher doesn't field cleanly. If Escobar is running on contact, as he should be in every case IMO, he scores easily.

 

Instead, he's left standing at third as Sano is thrown out, and now there's two out and you need a hit (or mistake) to score him.

 

Sometimes you lose that gamble, and Escobar gets thrown out at the plate. But it's a much better gamble than waiting for a 2 out hit.

 

Another mark in the "against" column when judging Molitor, IMO.

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I also wanted to mention...last night's top of the 8th was why you put the contact play on. Escobar's at third, with one out. Sano hits a chopper that the pitcher doesn't field cleanly. If Escobar is running on contact, as he should be in every case IMO, he scores easily.

 

Instead, he's left standing at third as Sano is thrown out, and now there's two out and you need a hit (or mistake) to score him.

 

Sometimes you lose that gamble, and Escobar gets thrown out at the plate. But it's a much better gamble than waiting for a 2 out hit.

 

Another mark in the "against" column when judging Molitor, IMO.

Agree completely.I'd rather go down being aggressive in this case.I think it'll help more than it hurts you in the long run.

 

This is especially true with this offense where putting the ball in play is an issue more than it should be.You've got to take advantage of contact.

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I also wanted to mention...last night's top of the 8th was why you put the contact play on. Escobar's at third, with one out. Sano hits a chopper that the pitcher doesn't field cleanly. If Escobar is running on contact, as he should be in every case IMO, he scores easily.
 
Instead, he's left standing at third as Sano is thrown out, and now there's two out and you need a hit (or mistake) to score him.
 
Sometimes you lose that gamble, and Escobar gets thrown out at the plate. But it's a much better gamble than waiting for a 2 out hit.
 
Another mark in the "against" column when judging Molitor, IMO.

The contact play decision is also impacted by where you are in the order, and who's up next. In this cas RG. Since his forte is the 3-2 walk, that ain't gonna score a run. Morrison was next, but by the time he gets up a fly ball likely won't do it. Frankly this offense is so bad, I wonder if the suicide squeeze wouldn't be a good idea with Sano up? :( Yah, that's so sad.
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