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BREAKING: Twins Trade Rodney To A's

The Minnesota Twins have announced that they have traded RHP Fernando Rodney to the Oakland A's in exchange for RHP Dakota Chalmers.
The Twins have traded their closer, Fernando Rodney, to the A's. In return, the Twins receive 21-year-old RHP Dakota Chalmers.

Chalmers was the A's 3rd round pick in 2015 out of high school in Georgia. He received a seven-figure bonus, well over slot value, to keep him from a commitment to the University of Georgia.. He pitched a couple of games with Beloit this year, but according to Darren Wolfson, he had Tommy John surgery in April.

Here is another report on Chalmers from Jeff Johnson of The Gazette in Cedar Rapids:



Rodney was signed by the Twins before this season. He worked in 46 games for the Twins and went 3-2 with 25 saves and a 3.09 ERA.

According to Mike Berardino, the A's had claimed Rodney, which of course gave them less leverage in a trade.



The Twins will make a corresponding roster move tomorrow before their game.

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You would think if trading Rodney was part of the plan, they would have gotten a better return prior to the deadline.Considering his salary and that he has not been ineffective, someone was going to claim him and limit your trade options.

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One problem is the surgery.He won't be back until when, mid season?Drafted in 2015, we will need to add him to the 40-man following next year.That doesn't give the Twins a lot of time to judge whether he is deserving.

 

Looks like the Twins are all in in Kimbrel next yer, they have plenty of money for it.

 

I'm not sure what this looks like yet? But I am interested enough to keep watching. 

 

 

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You would think if trading Rodney was part of the plan, they would have gotten a better return prior to the deadline. Considering his salary and that he has not been ineffective, someone was going to claim him and limit your trade options.


This is fair. And this return doesn't seem like the kind to make us change our mind about whether to keep him either. So that seems to suggest we were strongly thinking about moving him anyway.
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One problem is the surgery. He won't be back until when, mid season? Drafted in 2015, we will need to add him to the 40-man following next year. That doesn't give the Twins a lot of time to judge whether he is deserving.


Well, he doesn't "have" to be added to the 40-man. He will just be available for selection in the Rule 5 draft if we don't. But his profile and resume doesn't suggest he would be selected in Rule 5.

If he's not selected in Rule 5, he won't be eligible for minor league free agency any earlier than the end of the 2021 season. So we should have plenty of time to evaluate him and work with him.
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Don't Feed the Greed Guy
Aug 10 2018 06:26 AM
Good move. Low risk, high reward. Hopefully the Twins farm system helps the kid's dreams come true.
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ashburyjohn
Aug 10 2018 06:27 AM

And, I hope the Twins rough him up soon.

That means you hope the A's are leading in the bottom of the ninth when he comes in, you traitor. :)

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That means you hope the A's are leading in the bottom of the ninth when he comes in, you traitor. :)


I don't think the A's will be using him as closer.
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ashburyjohn
Aug 10 2018 06:38 AM

Not sure how many walk offs Rodney gave up this season, but more than enough.

Only two, by my count. Opening Day stuck in our minds of course. It happened again in April against the Yankees.

 

And then, amazingly (I would have bet the wrong way also), never again.

 

For almost two months, May 2 through June 28, a stretch of 19 games, he was involved in only winning efforts. July, nearly so. August, nearly so.

 

Yes, a closer's usage pattern has a lot to do with it. Yes, he blew saves, and we remember them painfully. But, it usually wasn't Rodney trudging off the field while the other team mobbed their guy at home plate.

 

Incredibly. :)

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Another power arm that has already had TJ surgery, love the return! If we had a reliable closer this year, tack another 5+ wins on the board

 

Wow. Unexpected. Not sure how I feel about the return.

 

Make McGill the closer please. Keep May for high leverage.

 

Or maybe move Reed to closer?

Hey, let's make Garver the closer!

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Hey folks, long time lurker, finally joining the party. Of all of the trades, this is probably the one that I'm most indifferent about. Rodney is not part of the future, so I don't mind cutting the cord.

I'm all for adding pitching depth. We're adding bodies and sooner or later, we're going to hit on a guy or two. That said... out of all of the moves being made, can somebody explain to me why we're not taking a flier on a catcher? It seems to me like that's the weakest position in the organization. If we're adding bodies and taking fliers, why aren't we doing it there? We're a Garver injury from a Wilson/Astudillo experience. Now that we're in full on lost season mode, I feel like I can say that last part out loud.


Takes two to tango.

I believe the FO did not feel that Rodney could not be replaced for next year, so with the return this tantalizing pulled the trigger on the deal.  

For my money Twins have to evaluate the players that could have 40 man roster spots next year,this will open another spot to help in the process. 

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Any chance Tyler Jay is brought up? Let's get this youth movement going
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ashburyjohn
Aug 10 2018 06:49 AM

I don't think the A's will be using him as closer.

Sure, sure, go ahead and step on a good joke. :)

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Reed, Morrison, and Odorizzi better be next.

I'd rather see the team hang on to Odorizzi. I think we'll need another dependable arm in the starting rotation next year, and overall he's been fairly good this year.

 

As far as Rodney, I'm happy to see him go, "veteran presence" or not. Sure, he's a fun player to have around, one of the few that still seems to have a zest for the game, and at his advanced age he's still a relatively effective reliever. But as others have stated, he's not going to be part of the team's future, or even of much need next year, so might as well get something for 7 weeks of his services. Good move.

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ashburyjohn
Aug 10 2018 06:56 AM

If we had a reliable closer this year, tack another 5+ wins on the board

Do you consider Craig Kimbrel a reliable closer? He's blown 4 saves for the Red Sox this season, versus Rodney's 6. No pitcher is 100% perfect.

 

The Fernando Rodney Experience was never primarily about the blown saves and walk-offs, anyway. :)

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May for closer.

At least until Belisle comes off the DL.
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Nine of twelve
Aug 10 2018 07:03 AM

 

Hey folks, long time lurker, finally joining the party. Of all of the trades, this is probably the one that I'm most indifferent about. Rodney is not part of the future, so I don't mind cutting the cord. 

 

I'm all for adding pitching depth. We're adding bodies and sooner or later, we're going to hit on a guy or two. That said... out of all of the moves being made, can somebody explain to me why we're not taking a flier on a catcher? It seems to me like that's the weakest position in the organization. If we're adding bodies and taking fliers, why aren't we doing it there? We're a Garver injury from a Wilson/Astudillo experience. Now that we're in full on lost season mode, I feel like I can say that last part out loud. 

Catching is scarce and becoming scarcer, and that's true throughout baseball, not just in the Twins organization. Nobody wants to give up a catching prospect.

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Like the old saying.
GREAT TRADE!!!! Who'd we get?
    • ashburyjohn, birdwatcher, Mike Sixel and 1 other like this

Another meaningless move in a now meaningless season for, unfortunately, a meaningless franchise for the foreseeable future. Why did they make the off season moves they made if they were going to throw in the towel 2/3 of the way through this season? Did they expect Cleveland to roll over and play dead? I don't think the Twins ownership/FO/manager has a clue what they are trying to accomplish. Any evidence to the contrary please identify.

 

Hey, let's make Garver the closer!

That's a ridiculous suggestion.

 

Garver should be the "opener".

    • ashburyjohn, Mike Sixel, Riverbrian and 5 others like this

 

Do you consider Craig Kimbrel a reliable closer? He's blown 4 saves for the Red Sox this season, versus Rodney's 6. No pitcher is 100% perfect.

 

The Fernando Rodney Experience was never primarily about the blown saves and walk-offs, anyway. :)

Yup. As you previously alluded to, the Twins are 39-7 in Rodney's appearances this year, and 2 of those losses he entered when we were trailing already. He's blown 6 saves/leads, but we won 2 of those anyway. So even if he was 100% perfect in save opportunities, it would only net us 4 wins. He's only lost 1 game he entered as a tie too (and preserved 3 ties that became wins vs Cleveland).

 

Interestingly, the only pitcher who is 100% perfect in save opportunities this year, with more than 3 opportunities, is Ken Giles -- who has a 6.29 ERA on the season in MLB (and 8.44 during a minor league assignment too). Every pitcher with more than 12 opportunities has at least 2 blown saves with the exception of Doolittle and Kela who each have 1.

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My reaction to this trade is...not good.

 

Chalmers has good stuff but not even out of low-A ball after four seasons because he can't throw it for strikes.Also won't be ready to pitch again until the season has already started next year. 

 

I would have pulled Rodney back and kept him. 

 

Hope Chalmers turns out awesome but we've seen his type before and its worked out...never?

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Reed, Morrison, and Odorizzi better be next.

 

Reed? No way. He's signed at a reasonable price for next season and is a good reliever, despite occasional struggles this season. He's a keeper in a good bullpen. Odorizzi is under team control for another season and is a solid mid-rotation starter who can gobble up some innings and be a veteran presence on a young staff. Morrison? Fine, but don't expect to get much.

 

I'm fine with this deal. It's one of the reasons I was ok with the Rodney signing in the first place: I figured he'd be moveable if things didn't go well with the team and a 1 year deal is fungible. Looks like they got a lottery ticket on this prospect: great stuff with control problems and some mechanical issues. He's worth taking a shot on if you have confidence in your minor league staff.

 

Let's get Curtiss up here and pitching high leverage situations. Let's give May a run at a closer's role and see how he reacts. How about seeing what Luke Bard has got going?

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