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10 Relievers Minnesota Could Target

Minnesota missed out on the Craig Kimbrel sweepstakes, but the Twins will certainly have opportunities to add other impact relievers before July’s trade deadline. The Twins have been able to do more than survive with their current bullpen situation. However, bullpen arms and bullpen usage are critical when it comes to winning games in October.

Here are 10 relievers who Minnesota could target before the trade deadline.
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LHP Jake Diekman, Kansas City
2019 Stats: 4.10 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, 39 K, 26.1 IP
Diekman’s 13.3 K/9 rate seems made for the post-season and some of his other peripheral numbers look better than his high ERA and WHIP. He has a $5.75 million club option for 2020, so he wouldn’t have to be a rental player. He also seems to be healthy after dealing with ulcerative colitis, a chronic disease of the colon. Since Diekman is on an AL Central squad, it could be tough to swing a deal. Does Minnesota want to send prospect that they could end up facing multiple times a season?

RHP Ken Giles, Toronto
2019 Stats: 1.08 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 42 K, 25.0 IP
Giles has been closing games for Houston and Philadelphia for the last five seasons and he might be amid the best season of his career. He entered the year with a career mark of 11.9 K/9 and he has exploded to 15.1 K/9 this season. Giles has one more year of arbitration as he signed this year for $6.3 million. Back in 2017, he struggled with the Astros on the way to the World Series title. This still doesn’t mean he can’t help a team win in 2019.

RHP Mychal Givens, Baltimore
2019 Stats: 5.00 ERA, 1.33 WHIP, 37 K, 27.0 IP
Givens might not have the eye-popping numbers of some of the other names on this list but that doesn’t mean he should be ignored. His 12.3 K/9 total is a career high. Over the last three seasons, he has posted a 3.29 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP with 10.3 K/9. This season, he has struggled with the long ball as he has surrendered six home runs in 23 appearances. He is still arbitration eligible and the earliest he can be a free agent is 2022.

RHP Shane Greene, Detroit
2019 Stats: 1.04 ERA, 0.80 WHIP, 28 K, 26.0 IP
Minnesota got a close-up look at Greene this weekend and has an AL leading 19 saves. He’s putting up career numbers, which might seem like a surprise when looking at the last three seasons. Since switching to the bullpen full-time in 2016, he has a 4.47 ERA with a 1.31 WHIP and 9.3 K/9. He will still be arbitration eligible in 2020 as he signed this season for $4 million. He’s a member of another AL Central foe, so Minnesota might look to other options.

LHP Brad Hand, Cleveland
2019 Stats: 0.98 ERA, 0.76 WHIP, 40 K, 27.2 IP
Some of the names on this list would be rental players, but Hand doesn’t fit into that category. He is signed through 2020 with a club option for 2021. This will make him very intriguing to contending clubs. Minnesota needs another lefty to go with Taylor Rogers in the bullpen and Hand could fit that mold. Over the last three seasons, he’s posted a 2.62 ERA and a 1.05 WHIP with a 12.0 K/9. Since he’s with Cleveland, Minnesota might not want to make an in-division trade and Cleveland’s asking price could be high.

RHP Greg Holland, Arizona
2019 Stats: 1.31 ERA, 0.97 WHIP, 28 K, 20.2 IP
Holland is a familiar name to Twins fans as he was Kansas City’s closer for the first half of this decade. Tommy John surgery cost him the 2016 season and this year might be the first time he is back to his pre-surgery form. His 12.2 K/9 rate is his highest total since 2014. He has playoff experience as part of Kansas City’s trip to the 2014 World Series and he pitched in the 2017 NL Wild Card Game with Colorado. He’s a free agent at season’s end, so he could be a cheaper option than some of the other names on this list.

RHP Sergio Romo, Miami
2019 Stats: 5.48 ERA, 1.43 ERA, 21 K, 23.0 IP
Romo has the most playoff experience of anyone on this list. He was part of three World Series titles in San Francisco and has pitched in 27 playoff games. From 2016-2018, he posted a 3.63 ERA with a 1.17 WHIP and 9.8 K/9. Romo signed a cheap one-year, $2.5 million contract with Miami this off-season so there would be very little financial commitment to him. He also wouldn’t cost a lot to acquire. However, his decreased strikeout rate from 10.0 K/9 to 8.2 K/9 is concerning.

LHP Will Smith, San Francisco
2019 Stats: 2.19 ERA, 0.73 WHIP, 35 K, 24.2 IP
Smith is in his second season back from Tommy John surgery and his performance seems to have seen few ill-effects. Over the last two seasons, he has posted a 2.43 ERA and a 0.90 WHIP with a 12.3 K/9. Even though he’s left-handed, Smith has been successful against righties and lefties as he has held righties to a .487 OPS and lefties to a .399 OPS. Smith will be a free agent this winter so it will be interesting to see what kind of deal the Giants will be able to get for him.

LHP Felipe Vazquez, Pittsburgh
2019 Stats: 2.30 ERA, 1.21 WHIP, 43 K, 27.1 IP
Vazquez might come with one of the highest asking prices on this list. He is potentially under team control through 2023. This means, Pittsburgh would need to be overwhelmed in any kind of offer for their left-handed closer. He took over as the Pirates full-time closer in 2017. During that stretch, he has compiled a 2.19 ERA with a 1.08 WHIP and a 11.5 K/9. Minnesota has some depth in their system, but it seems unlikely for them to deal an elite prospect.

LHP Tony Watson, San Francisco
2019 Stats: 2.55 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 21 K, 24.2 IP
Watson might be a name that is a little more unfamiliar to Twins fans. He’s pitched his entire career in the NL for the Pirates, Dodgers, and Giants. As a lefty, Watson is more than just a LOOGY. He has averaged over 70 innings pitched from 2013-2018 and he posted a career high 9.8 K/9 last season. His strikeout numbers have dipped a little this season (7.7 K/9) so that might be a cause for concern. Watson has a $2.5 million player option for 2020 or he could test the free agent waters.

Who do you think the Twins should target? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.

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Harrison Greeley III
Jun 11 2019 07:38 AM

 

Jake Cave won't get Will Smith.

 

Jake Cave is 26 and in AAA, with modest numbers and a modest minor league career. He's not a prospect in any way, shape or form. He's minor league depth. 

 

And he won't net a usable piece.

He had a 114 OPS+ with regular playing time last year. Since being back in AAA with regular plate appearances, he's got a .366 wOBA. He also doesn't hit arbitration till 2022. He's not a prospect to build a core around, but if you're entering a rebuild like the Giants you could do way worse than having him in the OF rotation. 

I can't imagine the market for Smith being all that robust considering the service time. I figure the Cubs will be interested, but they're pretty strapped right now on their farm. They'd likely also be offering damaged goods like Ian Happ, I presume. 

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Am I being a homer or does the Will Smith rental for Jake Cave seem fair for both sides?


That's not even close to enough for Smith.
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He had a 114 OPS+ with regular playing time last year. Since being back in AAA with regular plate appearances, he's got a .366 wOBA. He also doesn't hit arbitration till 2022. He's not a prospect to build a core around, but if you're entering a rebuild like the Giants you could do way worse than having him in the OF rotation. 

I can't imagine the market for Smith being all that robust considering the service time. I figure the Cubs will be interested, but they're pretty strapped right now on their farm. They'd likely also be offering damaged goods like Ian Happ, I presume. 

I see that as the opposite.

 

If you're a contending team, Jake Cave in AAA makes sense as depth to cover injuries. He makes sense in the Twins OF if, for example, Kepler gets injured.

 

If you're the SF Giants, and indeed entering a rebuild, why would you waste time investing ABs in Jake Cave, who is never going to be a difference maker on a contending team, and who doesn't really make the current team much better. 

 

I would think the Giants (and similar teams) will look to acquire players with upside, even if they're several years away. Not 4th OFers.

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<< Make decent offers-90% of our best players will not make the Twins. If you want someone good,don’t insult the other team by low balling them. Those teams quickly lose respect for the Twins when that happens! >>

 

I kind of take the opposite approach. Everybody starts with a low ball position otherwise you don't have any bargaining room. It's why they are called trade negotiations. It's where you end up at agreement time that matters, not the beginning. Respect is earned through shrewd negotiating.

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Cave on his own wouldn’t get anyone better than the guys they already have in abundance.

Hand would be great, but he would probably cost Kirilloff or Graterol + others. Cleveland gave up Francisco Mejia, who was approximately the number ten overall prospect at the time of the deal. Hand is signed through at least next year. 2021 is a team option. He has one less year of control than when San Diego traded him, but he’s having the best season of his career. I’m not sure I’d send a top prospect to a still-in-it division rival.

Vazquez would be great, but more expensive than Hand in terms of prospects. Giles would also be good and possibly a little cheaper, given his previous red flags.

I don’t know who they’re gonna trade for. I guess my personal preference would be Giles and/or Smith. I don’t think they’ll get more than one high profile arm, in any case, and maybe not even that. Even so, I think they’ll find some guys who can pitch tough innings.

Andrew Baggarly of The Athletic on Bumgarner's asking price.

 

“From what industry sources are telling me, Giants president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi already has had a dialogue with some contenders, including the New York Yankees, and he made it clear the Giants will not treat Bumgarner as a yard-sale item that must be cleared off the driveway before moving day,” Baggarly writes. “The Giants will get the value they are seeking or they won’t move him.”

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woolywoolhouse
Jun 11 2019 08:17 AM

Twins need another lefty in the bullpen for a deep playoff run. Trading within the division is a tough sell/buy. Go hard for Smith first, Vasquez second, Watson third. 

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TerwilligerBuntsOne
Jun 11 2019 08:20 AM

The interesting part of being BUYERS this year is that we are perhaps set up to do so at least in part because we were SELLERS the past year or two at the deadline.Trading away guys like Escobar, Kintzler, Dozier, Garcia, Pressley (gulp), etc. were not always popular moves.However, it replenished the farm system with a number of mid-tier prospects in return.These are exactly the same type of prospects that will help the Twins trade for an arm or two, while not completely depleting the farm system.The trading window is opening, and we have some money in the bank.The plan is all starting to come together........

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Does Amir Garrett from the Reds do anything for anybody? He's having a great year on (I believe) a one year deal. 

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TheLeviathan
Jun 11 2019 08:40 AM

Even if the D-backs do sell, I don't want Bradley or Ray anyway.If you're looking for the combo-platter - Toronto is the place to shop.

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nicksaviking
Jun 11 2019 08:44 AM

 

Does Amir Garrett from the Reds do anything for anybody? He's having a great year on (I believe) a one year deal. 

 

I'd take Garret, Iglesis or Stephenson. The Reds think they're close to contending though, I'm not sure they'd move any of them. But since they have three good controllable bullpen arms, maybe.

 

Even if the Twins were willing to pay division rival prices for Hand, I kind of suspect Cleveland wouldn't work with the Twins. I can see why an up-and-coming team would be willing to trade within the division, but there's going to be a bit of resentment from the team getting knocked off of the pedestal. 

 

I doubt Detroit would have the same reservations, but I don't want Greene. He'll be giving Sano a workout if he's closing games. As much as I'm enjoying Sano so far this year, I don't want to put the game in his, or any of the infielder's hands in the 9th.

 

Even if the D-backs do sell, I don't want Bradley or Ray anyway.If you're looking for the combo-platter - Toronto is the place to shop.

I'd certainly take Robbie Ray, but even if the DBacks sell, I'm not sure they'd deal Ray. He's not a FA until 2021. Archie Bradley has good stuff, and might be a decent buy low bullpen candidate.

 

If they sell, Grienke will be the first to go.

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The Twins are likely to have the luxury of acquiring help just with the playoffs in mind, as it's looking like they will win the division crown handily.IMO, they'll need two bullpen guys and a top-line starter.If they are not able to get the top-line starter (i.e.--Bumgarner), the bullpen guys won't matter as much, as the Twins won't have much chance to get to the World Series without an experienced #1 starter.At least one of the bullpen guys needs to be a right-hander.I like both Giles and Holland.Although Giles has not done well previously under playoff pressure, maybe he could redeem himself.I also like left-hander Hand as a target. It's interesting to note that the writer is leery of a trade within the division for fear that whoever the Twins trade will come back to haunt the Twins in future years.I am thinking that division teams such as Detroit, KC, or Cleveland may be thinking that whoever they trade to the Twins will come back to haunt them in the future.

 

Other random thoughts: Ryan Pressley would really look good back in a Twins uniform now. If and when the Twins make the playoffs, I would think that one or a couple of the current starters would be possible bullpen pitchers.(Pineda, Perez, even Gibson if the Twins are able to acquire a front-line starter.

Arizona has been pretty streaky this year, and based on their off-season, are rebuilding.


FWIW, Arizona was actually trying to acquire Mike Leake last week. I think they have said they are buyers, for now. Although that could change.

He had a 114 OPS+ with regular playing time last year. Since being back in AAA with regular plate appearances, he's got a .366 wOBA. He also doesn't hit arbitration till 2022. He's not a prospect to build a core around, but if you're entering a rebuild like the Giants you could do way worse than having him in the OF rotation.

I can't imagine the market for Smith being all that robust considering the service time. I figure the Cubs will be interested, but they're pretty strapped right now on their farm. They'd likely also be offering damaged goods like Ian Happ, I presume.


Cave also had a .363 BABIP last year.

Smith is a pending FA but he is well regarded and pitching great right now. A LHP who dominates both sides. He might be the Giants best trade chip, so I think they need to aim for upside on his return.

Don't get me wrong, Cave is a useful player and the Giants would benefit by having him. But they can't spend Smith to get a guy like that, or their rebuild will go nowhere -- they need to find their Cave types just like how the Twins did (DFA and minor trade situations).
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MMMordabito
Jun 11 2019 09:21 AM

Please keep Stromanitis/Stromakemia out of the Twins clubhouse

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Trading within your own division is not just on the Twins and a reluctance and giving good players to a rival. Said rival team isn't always interested in helping you achieve your goals for this season, and possibly longer. Just being a realist, I don't think you see the Twins, or most any team, acquiring 3 pitchers, much less 4. I like Watson, and have for some time, as a 2nd LH in the pen. He's had a nice, somewhat under the radar career and looks solid again this season. I don't think he'd be all that expensive. Then, bring in a top RH with at least one more year of control, and I'd be pretty happy. Just not sure who that choice would be.

Please keep Stromanitis/Stromakemia out of the Twins clubhouse


Why?
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twinkiesfan11
Jun 11 2019 09:29 AM
Francisco Liriano anyone?
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MMMordabito
Jun 11 2019 09:32 AM

 

Why?

 

Part of the reason the Twins are doing so well is the cohesiveness as a team.The last thing they need is some short fuse like Stroman.

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FWIW, Arizona was actually trying to acquire Mike Leake last week. I think they have said they are buyers, for now. Although that could change.

 

They seem to be playing for a WC spot at best (2.5 games back, currently). If they hit a slump and fall further out of the playoff picture, do they change their tune? Moving Goldschmidt last off-season for Luke Weaver (MLB), Carson Kelly (MLB) and Andy Young (AA) would say they want guys either MLB ready or close. Being in the same division as the Dodgers, I don't see them as serious contenders for a couple years at best. It might be in their best interest to trade a couple of guys for a big package of prospects that will debut over the next couple years. But this is purely speculation for the sake of discussion.

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jorgenswest
Jun 11 2019 09:59 AM

Does Amir Garrett from the Reds do anything for anybody? He's having a great year on (I believe) a one year deal.


He won’t be a free agent until 2024.

The Reds might sell high on him having a career year at age 27. He won’t be inexpensive.
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jorgenswest
Jun 11 2019 10:02 AM
The Twins shouldn’t prioritize getting the best deal. They need to prioritize getting the best reliever(s).

I don’t want Tony Watson because he can be acquired a good price. Pay up and get a better reliever.
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They seem to be playing for a WC spot at best (2.5 games back, currently). If they hit a slump and fall further out of the playoff picture, do they change their tune? Moving Goldschmidt last off-season for Luke Weaver (MLB), Carson Kelly (MLB) and Andy Young (AA) would say they want guys either MLB ready or close. Being in the same division as the Dodgers, I don't see them as serious contenders for a couple years at best. It might be in their best interest to trade a couple of guys for a big package of prospects that will debut over the next couple years. But this is purely speculation for the sake of discussion.

Nothing wrong with playing for a WC spot -- especially in a division with the Dodgers, they may never see anything better!

 

But yeah, I expect they will re-evaluate if they fall further back. Worth noting Goldschmidt was an expiring asset -- they may not be so eager to move Ray or Bradley in 2019. Holland would probably be their top chip, reloading for 2020 (they do still have solid controlled players all around their roster).

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Major League Ready
Jun 11 2019 10:06 AM

 

Cave on his own wouldn’t get anyone better than the guys they already have in abundance.

Hand would be great, but he would probably cost Kirilloff or Graterol + others. Cleveland gave up Francisco Mejia, who was approximately the number ten overall prospect at the time of the deal. Hand is signed through at least next year. 2021 is a team option. He has one less year of control than when San Diego traded him, but he’s having the best season of his career. I’m not sure I’d send a top prospect to a still-in-it division rival.

Vazquez would be great, but more expensive than Hand in terms of prospects. Giles would also be good and possibly a little cheaper, given his previous red flags.

I don’t know who they’re gonna trade for. I guess my personal preference would be Giles and/or Smith. I don’t think they’ll get more than one high profile arm, in any case, and maybe not even that. Even so, I think they’ll find some guys who can pitch tough innings.

 

Mejia was the #15 prospect but he only has a 50FV.Maybe his FV has dropped since the trade. It does not make sense the #15 prospect would have had a 50FV. Regardless, Kirilloff is a 60FV and the Indians were getting an extra year vs the Twins renting him. Plus, The Indians did not add any other prospects unless the report I read was wrong and the Indians got another RP in the trade. I don't think any rental RPs are bringing a FV60 prospect + others.


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