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Twins Minor League Report (5/6): Kirilloff Cranks, Wrong End of a No-No

The Miracle nearly had a no-hitter on Sunday and now the Kernels find themselves on the wrong side of a contest on Monday. Minor league contests are tough when it comes to strong pitching performances. How long can a starter last? How close can a club get to history?

One team was able to make that happen on Monday night.
Image courtesy of Seth Stohs, Twins Daily (Alex Kirilloff)
TRANSACTIONS
INF Ronald Torreyes placed on the temporary inactive list, retroactive to May 4.
RHP Tom Hackimer promoted from Fort Myers to Pensacola.
RHP Edwar Colina reinstated from 7-day IL for Fort Myers.

RED WINGS REPORT
Rochester enjoyed an off-day on Monday. The club currently sits at 12-16 before starting a three-game series with the Toledo Mud Hens. Rochester is currently 6.5 games behind Lehigh Valley. The club has a sub-.500 record at home and on the road. Brent Rooker could be one of the hitters to provide a boost in Rochester. Other than that, there might continue to be some struggles for Minnesota’s Triple-A squad.

BLUE WAHOO BITES
Pensacola 6, Mississippi 2
Box Score
Pensacola used a five-run seventh inning to separate themselves from the Braves. Alex Kirilloff got things started for the Blue Wahoos with a run-scoring triple in the third frame. Tanner English got the scoring started in the seventh with a two-run double. Jordan Gore follow with a run-scoring single before Kirilloff drove him in with a single of his own. Kirilloff was able to score on fielding error.

Sean Poppen started and lasted five frames. He scattered two runs on three hits, but he struggled with five walks. He was able to punch out seven batters and he lowered his season ERA to 2.84. Jeff Ames took over for Poppen. He pitched 1 2/3 innings and allowed one run on three hits. He struck out one and walked one.

Cody Stashak continued to be tremendous in relief. He pitched 2 1/3 perfect innings by striking out three. He’s allowed only one run in his last five appearances while striking out 14 in 9 1/3 innings of work.

MIRACLE MATTERS
Ft. Myers 1, Charlotte 6
Box Score
Fort Myers had won five straight games, but the club struggled to find any offense on this night. Especially when their opponent scored six runs in the first four innings. In his first appearance this season, Edwar Colina struggled. Colina allowed six earned runs on eight hits in less than five innings of work. He struck out five and walked three. He was making his first appearance since the Florida State League clinching game last September.

Rickey Ramirez did a great job in relief as he tossed 2 1/3 innings of shutout ball. He retired all seven batters he faced, and he struck out six, including the last five batters he saw. Joe Record also picked up the pitching staff with one perfect inning. He didn’t allow a hit and he struck out one. Overall, the pitching staff struck out 12 in eight innings of work.

Fort Myers nearly matched Charlotte in hits (7 to 8) but the club couldn’t come up with the big one. Jose Miranda tried his best with a 3-for-4 night including his seventh double. He had three of the club’s four hits against the opposing starter. Royce Lewis collected his second triple. Overall, the club was 0-for-8 with runners in scoring position and the team left eight men on base.

KERNELS NUGGETS
Cedar Rapids 0, South Bend 2
Box Score
Cedar Rapids could literally muster nothing when it came to the offensive side of the ball. The Kernels found themselves on the wrong side of a no-hitter on Monday. Cedar Rapids had one base runner the entire night. Andrew Bechtold was able to break up the perfect game with a walk. Other than that, there was little to discuss on the offensive side of the ball.

Josh Winder did all he could to keep Cedar Rapids in the game. He pitched a complete game, the first of his career, and limited the Cubs to two runs on three hits. He struck out six and walked two. Winder has pitched a minimum of five innings in every start and he has yet to surrender more than two earned runs.

TWINS DAILY PLAYERS OF THE DAY
TD Pitcher of the Day- Josh Winder, Cedar Rapids (8 IP, 2 ER, 3 H, 6 K, 2 BB)
TD Hitter of the Day- Alex Kirilloff, Pensacola (3-5, 3B, 2 RBI, R)

PROSPECT SUMMARY
Here’s a look at how the Twins Daily Top 20 Twins Prospects performed:

#1 - Royce Lewis (Ft. Myers) – 1-4, 3B
#2 - Alex Kirilloff (Pensacola) – 3-5, 3B, 2 RBI, R
#3 - Brusdar Graterol (Pensacola) – Did not pitch
#4 - Trevor Larnach (Ft. Myers) – 0-3, BB, 2 K
#5 - Wander Javier (EST) - No Game
#6 - Brent Rooker (Rochester) – No Scheduled Game
#7 - Jhoan Duran (Ft. Myers) – Did not pitch
#8 - Lewis Thorpe (Rochester) – No Scheduled Game
#9 - Blayne Enlow (Cedar Rapids) – Did not pitch
#10 - Akil Baddoo (Ft. Myers) – 0-5, 4 K
#11 - Nick Gordon (Rochester) - No Game Scheduled
#12 - Stephen Gonsalves (Rochester) - Injured List
#13 - Ryan Jeffers (Ft. Myers) – 1-4, RBI, R, K
#14 - Ben Rortvedt (Ft. Myers) – 2-4, 2B
#15 - Yunior Severino (Cedar Rapids) – Injured List
#16 - Gilberto Celestino (Cedar Rapids) – 0-3
#17 - Zack Littell (Rochester) – No Scheduled Game
#18 - LaMonte Wade (Rochester) – No Scheduled Game
#19 - Jorge Alcala (Pensacola) – Did not pitch
#20 - Jose Miranda (Ft. Myers) – 3-4, 2B, R, K

TUESDAY’S PROBABLE STARTERS
Rochester vs. Toledo (5:35 CST) – RHP Kohl Stewart (2-2, 4.50 ERA)
Pensacola @ Mississippi (6:35 CST) – RHP Jorge Alcala (4-1, 4.71 ERA)
Fort Myers @ Charlotte (5:30 CST) – LHP Bryan Sammons (3-0, 0.40 ERA)
Cedar Rapids @ South Bend (6:05 CST) – RHP Luis Rijo (0-3, 3.43 ERA)

Please feel free to ask any questions and discuss Monday’s games.

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Hosken Bombo Disco
May 07 2019 11:51 AM
Just last summer, the front office scoffed at the idea of even promoting Kirilloff up to AA.

So, I'm not sure what makes people think Kirilloff should be promoted to MLB soon. Give the kid as much time as he needs.

...got link http://twinsdaily.co...ock-it-up-r7182
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I don't agree with bringing Kiriloff up as a rotational player. He needs regular at bats at a regular position. Keep it simple, wait until September call ups unless there is an injury or somebody is struggling for him to replace.


Why does he need regular at bats, if he can help the team this year?
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Major League Ready
May 07 2019 11:58 AM

 

I’ve never been more convinced that a player could stroll into a major league clubhouse and yield positive results than with Kiriloff. The more time passes, the more I believe he could’ve done that from day 1. He’s a natural.

 

 

So is Guerrero Jr. and the expectation for him is instant success. Of course, he is just getting started but his wRC+ so far is 22.

 

It's already late enough to gain a 7th year of team control.
Waiting until a week into June would avoid Super 2 status.

If he is hitting .330+ by the time early June rolls around, you have to bring him up. Even if he plays 2 out of every 3 games, either at 1B or OF, he makes a nice impact. 

 

This might be the perfect situation for it. He can help the Twins make a playoff push, while not being thrown into the fire all together. With so much depth, they can pick and choose when and where to play him and keep everyone fresh. 

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Hosken Bombo Disco
May 07 2019 12:15 PM

If he is hitting .330+ by the time early June rolls around, you have to bring him up. Even if he plays 2 out of every 3 games, either at 1B or OF, he makes a nice impact. 
 
This might be the perfect situation for it. He can help the Twins make a playoff push, while not being thrown into the fire all together. With so much depth, they can pick and choose when and where to play him and keep everyone fresh.

Not to throw water on your expectations but I don’t think the front office thinks he’s ready, even if he’s still hitting. See link above.

I do agree it would be a great situation to bring him in to, just don’t think he’d be ready.

 

The Prospect Summary has Gordon on the Injured List. Is that a typo or did he get hurt again?

 

Edited to "No Game Scheduled." He's in the lineup tonight. 

 

You didn't mention that Sr. Sano was 0-5 with 2 Ks. Average is now at .091.

 

Just in case anyone is worried about this... He's had 11 at bats in AA so far... 

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Does Kiriloff's service time come into play for this year, and if so, what is the date we can bring him up? 

 

Service Time isn't a factor at this point.

 

Another thing to remember is the whole Option situation too. If they call him up and send him down, that's an option year. He doesn't "need to" be added to the 40-man roster until after the 2020 season (though he'll almost certainly be up before then. Also, I would always contend that service time is less important during a Winning cycle. 

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4 K's for Baddoo. Yikes

Why do they keep leading him off?It can't be great for Lewis to be batting behind an instant out. He needs a change, and a change of approach.

Not sure how it would impact Lewis. In fact, Baddoo is known to take a lot of pitches, which would be good for Lewis.

 

FWIW...Baddoo has been a better offensive player than Lewis so far this year. Both have under-performed, but Baddoo is hitting for extra bases, and has 4 home runs which is 4 more than Lewis, Larnach, and Miranda. Granted, OBP is exceeding low for a lead-off hitter...but I don't think the organization cares that much what that might do to the likelihood of winning A+ games.

 

I’ve never been more convinced that a player could stroll into a major league clubhouse and yield positive results than with Kiriloff. The more time passes, the more I believe he could’ve done that from day 1. He’s a natural.

I don’t really buy that you can’t find a spot for him. Between days off in the outfield, first base, and DH, there would be plenty of at-bats to be had in place of Cave/Adrianza and in some cases Gonzalez/Garver/Astudillo. I’m fine with that upgrade across the Board (unless you believe Garver and Astudillo with continue being the bash brothers).

He could be a real game changer down the stretch, and really set this lineup over the top. Kepler, Polanco, Cruz, Rosario, Sano, Schoop, Buxton, Kiriloff, Garver (not necessarily in that order) is scary. He also adds another solid lefty to balance things out.

I’m fine keeping him down for a couple more months to maximize ABs. But, if he keeps this up, get him up in July/August and get him accustomed to big league pitching before September.

 

Kirilloff is the kind of guy that organizations make room for.

 

ie - Twins trade All star catcher after 2003 to allow Mauer to take over. Kirilloff (and Buxton and Sano and the like) are guys that you make room for. Lewis will be the same thing. 

 

But... he's played 4 games above A ball, and he was playing in Cedar Rapids 11 months ago. Let's give him a little bit of time first. 

 

All that said, he is the best all-around, pure hitter I've seen since Jason Kubel. He is one of those guys who people say can wake up Christmas morning and go 3-4. 

 

 

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Not sure how it would impact Lewis. In fact, Baddoo is known to take a lot of pitches, which would be good for Lewis.

 

FWIW...Baddoo has been a better offensive player than Lewis so far this year. Both have under-performed, but Baddoo is hitting for extra bases, and has 4 home runs which is 4 more than Lewis, Larnach, and Miranda. Granted, OBP is exceeding low for a lead-off hitter...but I don't think the organization cares that much what that might do to the likelihood of winning A+ games.

 

Yeah, that has zero affect on Lewis's at bats, or at least how he approaches them.

 

And Baddoo has always been a high on-base, high strikeout guy with power and speed potential. The lineup is based on big picture, not current stats. Baddoo is holding his own and should grow over the summer, like those other guys. 

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There isn't a spot for him in this outfield, this year and probably beyond.So his position with the Twins will be first base.

You sure? After the Twins got good in the late 80's, it seemed inconceivable that the outfield of Gladden, Puckett, and Brunansky would be broken up. But the FO was able to leverage Brunansky's value to obtain Tommy Her-- No. Wait.

 

Never mind.

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You sure? After the Twins got good in the late 80's, it seemed inconceivable that the outfield of Gladden, Puckett, and Brunansky would be broken up. But the FO was able to leverage Brunansky's value to obtain Tommy Her-- No. Wait.

 

Never mind.

 

Good one.....but really, you have to consider dealing Rosario if you can't extend him, if you believe in Kiriloff......

 

 

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Luke Raley is a much more likely 1st base option for this season than Kirilloff.Kirilloff will likely have to wait until after next years service time date.If he does make the AA to MLB jump he will need at least a couple more months at AA to get more 1B time.I think the FO will find it worth while to wait until next season rather than start the clock late this season.

 

Good one.....but really, you have to consider dealing Rosario if you can't extend him, if you believe in Kiriloff......

Agree. Kirilloff being real, and Kepler taking even one more half-step in his development...would be a nice problem to have, as they say.

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Luke Raley is a much more likely 1st base option for this season than Kirilloff.Kirilloff will likely have to wait until after next years service time date.If he does make the AA to MLB jump he will need at least a couple more months at AA to get more 1B time.I think the FO will find it worth while to wait until next season rather than start the clock late this season.

 

If the goal is to win while Rosario, Buxton, Berrios, and Sano are here, sooner is better......much better. 

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Luke Raley is a much more likely 1st base option for this season than Kirilloff.Kirilloff will likely have to wait until after next years service time date.If he does make the AA to MLB jump he will need at least a couple more months at AA to get more 1B time.I think the FO will find it worth while to wait until next season rather than start the clock late this season.

 

I think if they think he can hit and help the team in August and September and October, they won't even hesitate to bring up Kirilloff... 

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Hosken Bombo Disco
May 07 2019 06:23 PM

If the goal is to win while Rosario, Buxton, Berrios, and Sano are here, sooner is better......much better.

So, the Twins aren’t winning right now? Or, Kirilloff will help this offense? I don’t feel sooner is better here. In my opinion you are overthinking this one.
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Hosken Bombo Disco
May 07 2019 06:25 PM

Luke Raley is a much more likely 1st base option for this season than Kirilloff.Kirilloff will likely have to wait until after next years service time date.If he does make the AA to MLB jump he will need at least a couple more months at AA to get more 1B time.I think the FO will find it worth while to wait until next season rather than start the clock late this season.

Agree—I don’t think they start Kirilloff’s clock this season. And why not see what the lesser regarded prospects in the high minors can do.

So, the Twins aren’t winning right now? Or, Kirilloff will help this offense? I don’t feel sooner is better here. In my opinion you are overthinking this one.


If you aren't constantly getting better, you fall behind. I'm with Seth, if he can help this year, he'll be up this year.
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drivlikejehu
May 07 2019 09:33 PM

Kirilloff is a great prospect, no doubt. But it only makes sense to bring him up if he's ready to make an impact, not just hold his own. It's still very much an open question whether he will be at that point in a couple of months.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You didn't mention that Sr. Sano was 0-5 with 2 Ks. Average is now at .091.

 

 

And tonight Sano was 3/4 with 2 2Bs, a Sac Fly and 0 Ks, raising his average to .267 and OPS to .878 in AA. Amazing what a small amount of additional data can do to small sample performance figures.

 

I'm sure all the Twins care about is Sano demonstrating consistent quality ABs, and not so much about stats in A+, AA or AAA.

 

FYI, Falvey praised Sano for his professional approach thus far during his rehab, says he's actively helping his teammates and progressing rapidly. I would bet that a trip to AAA is soon forthcoming.

 

He should be back in 2 weeks- or maybe less.

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Sano's total rehab stint line is now 8/20 with 2 homers, 2 doubles, 2 walks, 8 RBI, 6Ks, hitting .400/.440/.800 with an OPS of 1.240!

 

Hey.... let's not get excited though, I know I won't ;)  ...... it's only the minor leagues. Pesky small samples. In 3 days, it could look.........

 

 

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So, the Twins aren’t winning right now? Or, Kirilloff will help this offense? I don’t feel sooner is better here. In my opinion you are overthinking this one.

 

First base production this year.... .202/.268/.403 with an OPS of .671

AT FIRST BASE!

I hope the goal is always to get better, and that starts with tryng to perhaps identify where the help can be directed.

 

All Kirilloff does is hit, and he is 21 already.... and getting old.

 

http://www.espn.com/...type/2/split/79

 

The player at AAA that’s advancing is Luke Raley (OF/1B) with a .275 average including 5 home runs. He’s been on a tear lately.

The talent pipeline is starting to blossom at AA and AAA levels. While I like the potential Rocker provides, don’t sleep on Raley.

Another return from the Dodgers for Dozier trade is Devin Smeltzer. He just advanced to AAA after carrying a .060 ERA at AA Pensacola

Good thing we were able to trade Dozier when we did and get a couple of decent prospects. With his poor play so far this year, I doubt he'd fetch much of anything at all at this point.

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