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Sunday Twins Game Notes: Jays Power Past Twins

FT. MYERS - Blue Jays prospects pummeled Twins pitching on Sunday in a 10-1 decision. Shortstop prospect Bo Bichette led off the game with a home run onto the berm beyond the left field fence, and Twins starter Jake Odorizzi did not complete the first inning. He talked about his outing, and several other notes from Sunday in Ft. Myers.
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Spring Training stats don’t matter at all. We know that. And whenever a player or pitcher struggles in spring training, we repeat that sentence over and over. That is the key point when looking at veteran Jake Odorizzi’s pitching line from Sunday. He gave up five runs on four hits and two walks in 2/3 of an inning.

Odorizzi noted after his outing, “Hopefully it (today’s outing) means good things because I think I gave up one run last year and it didn’t go very well. So I hope so. It’s spring training; I was trying to work on offspeed a lot today.”

Veteran starting pitchers come to spring training knowing their sole job in the spring is to be ready by Opening Day. Sometimes that means working on fastball command, or offspeed pitches. For Odorizzi on Sunday, it was the secondary stuff.

“I mixed all my pitches. I didn’t throw too many fastballs, but that was by design. It probably played a bit of a role getting behind in counts, but I’m not going to my good stuff that I know well while spring training when I want to work on getting the other stuff that’s not as good up to that. I could have very easily started throwing my pitches how I would have in the game, but that’s not going to make you any better.”

Rocco Baldelli came out of the dugout and removed Odorizzi from the game with two outs in the first inning. Pat Dean needed just one pitch to end the inning.

Baldelli said, “Odo has a very mature approach to everything he does. He’s got a very good head on his shoulders. He went out there today and he was using this as one, a way to prepare and get himself in shape and also work on some things.” He continued, “He was able to go finish his work and complete his preparation on the side. These sort of things do happen, and in the regular season the leash is probably also a little bit longer than it would be in a fairly early spring start.”

Odorizzi’s work was not complete. Because he didn’t reach a total pitch count goal for the day, he went down to the bullpen where he continued to work. He wanted to throw 36 more pitches. While he didn’t get more game-situation work, he tried to replicate it as much as possible in the bullpen.

“I had (assistant pitching coach) Jeremy Hefner stand in and bounce back and forth from righty and lefty. And I would do up-downs. So I would throw 12 pitches, sit down, watch whoever was hitting at that point, and just treat it as a game situation. Obviously it’s not the same max effort as a game, but I treated it just like a normal game with batters in the box. So it was good. Got the same sweat I got going on in the bullpen as in the game. It was a little warm out there. For us, it’s really about the up-downs, and building your pitch counts in the spring.”

In years past, Odorizzi threw both a slider and a cutter, but he decided in the offseason to just focus on one of the two and put all his efforts into the cutter.

He said, “I decided this offseason I wanted to focus on one pitch and give all my effort to that instead of spreading it out where you have two average pitches and maybe one's even below-average. You take that away, and just focus on one and make it as best as you can. It's worked out really well for me so far.”

“And like a good teammate, he has been sharing information on his pitches. “I actually taught it to Martín (Perez) the other day, and it's been working well for him in spring training so far from everything I've been told. So I'm helping guys with it while helping myself at the same time. If we can make each other better in here.” He continued, “It's good for me to sometimes talk it out with people. It helps me talk about my mindset, if I'm trying to teach it to somebody, it kind of gives you that teaching point as well. ”

GAME NOTES/QUOTES

Blue Jays Prospects

The Blue Jays announced before the game that top prospect Vlad Guerrero, Jr. will miss about three weeks due to a mild oblique strain. If I were to venture a guess, it will likely cause him to start the season in Triple-A before being called up to the major leagues about three weeks into the season.

Other top Blue Jays prospects made the trek down from Dunedin and were very impressive. Shortstop Bo Bichette led off the game with a home run. In his next at bat, he lined a double down the left field line. Later in the game, he hit an opposite field homer off of Michael Pineda.

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Slugging first baseman Rowdy Tellez had three hits including a first-inning homer off of Odorizzi and a sixth-inning homer off Pineda. Cavan Biggio was in a car accident a couple of days ago. On Sunday, he went 2-for-5 with a home run off of Matt Magill.

Pineda Throwing Ball “Pretty Well”

Pineda gave up three runs over his three innings of work, including the two home runs. However, Baldelli believes he is healthy and throwing the ball well.

“He's healthy and ready to go. He's actually throwing the ball pretty well. His arm strength is good. He's spinning the ball well, and for him, that's what it comes down to in a lot of ways. He's a guy that, when he's been very good in the past, a big part of his game is spinning the ball and cutting the ball and doing things like that. He is back to that now. You could look at a couple of different pitches here and there, but overall, I thought it was a very successful outing for him. Just getting out here and making some good pitches and doing it in this sweatbox that we do it in every day -- it's good for all the players, especially the pitchers, to get out there and do the work in that environment. I think it's helpful in preparing them for the year. I think Michael looks great."

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Return of Marwin

A look at Monday’s lineup shows that Marwin Gonzalez will be leading off and playing third base. He has been out of the lineup in recent days due to a shoulder injury.



Following Sunday’s game, Rocco Baldelli said that Gonzalez is ready to return. “Marwin declared himself beyond ready to go today but we wanted to give it one more day and we had it scheduled and we ended up rolling with it. Yeah, we expect him out there and all systems go.”

That has long been a Twins thing. When a player says that he’s ready to play, and the training staff agree, give him one more day to be more certain. Especially in spring training, it’s the right thing to do.

Tyler Austin Making His Case

On Friday, Tyler Austin went 3-for-3 to raise his spring batting average to .318. On Sunday afternoon, he went 3-for-3 again and now has a .400 batting average.

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CJ Cron is most likely going to be the Twins primary first baseman. However, Austin is out of options and it’s hard to imagine that the team is going to want to lose him for nothing. Could he compete with Willians Astudillo for the final roster spot? Could a trade be possible?

Torreyes Impresses

Ronald Torreyes, playing third base on Sunday, made a couple of really nice defensive plays. He is not a big man, but he also can hit. He has impressed his new manager both on and off the field.


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“He does everything right. He does everything right from the moment he walks on the field every morning. He's got a great energy. He's a clubhouse favorite. The guys love him. The staff loves him. He couldn't handle himself any better in the clubhouse or on the field. He's a good player. Move him anywhere. He makes all the plays. He's a headsy player. He's a baseball player. He has all good at bats. I enjoy being around him. I know I'm not alone in that thought.”

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Old Twins Cap
Mar 10 2019 08:07 PM

Keep Torreyes.Drop Adrianza.

 

Torreyes can hit.

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Odorizzi post game interview.

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Adrianza.- is singed and on the 40 man roster.I like Adrianza, I think he's underrated.But it all depends on what you want from your bench player.Adrianza is more of a Shortstop not 3B man.  

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Odorizzi post game interview.


Spring training... The few times in life where you can have it both ways.

Perez does well the other day and we hear he's turned the corner. Nothing's gonna stop us now!!

Odorizzi gets shelled yesterday and we hear no worries! He's just working on stuff.
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I wonder how many runs the Jays would have scored had our two starts NOT had “great” outings.
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Since when is TD a troll farm?

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Hosken Bombo Disco
Mar 11 2019 09:21 AM
Seth or anyone, what is your take on Garver to this point this spring behind the dish?

 

Adrianza.- is singed and on the 40 man roster.I like Adrianza, I think he's underrated.But it all depends on what you want from your bench player.Adrianza is more of a Shortstop not 3B man.  

Adrianza contract isn't guaranteed, so he can be released with minimal financial impact.But as I understand it Torreyes does have an option.

So Torreyes hit .292 with the Yanks in 108 games in 2017. He only got into 41 games last year in New York but hit .280. He's 26 years old.

 

The knock seems to be that he has very little power. Just hit 4 HR in his career. But the Twins could do worse and he might be a good spare part to have in Rochester. I'm not down on Adrianza. Ehire hit 6 HR and drove in 40 runs last year in 114 games. Not terrible and it seems that the two players are very similar, stat-wise. Adrianza's 29 years old, maybe his experience is what'll land him that 25th spot.

 

How about Tyler Austin catching fire the past 2 games? NOW what?

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Pretty convenient injury for the Jays......I'm shocked he'll be in AAA for a few weeks, shocked!

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So Torreyes hit .292 with the Yanks in 108 games in 2017. He only got into 41 games last year in New York but hit .280. He's 26 years old.

 

The knock seems to be that he has very little power. Just hit 4 HR in his career. But the Twins could do worse and he might be a good spare part to have in Rochester. I'm not down on Adrianza. Ehire hit 6 HR and drove in 40 runs last year in 114 games. Not terrible and it seems that the two players are very similar, stat-wise. Adrianza's 29 years old, maybe his experience is what'll land him that 25th spot.

 

How about Tyler Austin catching fire the past 2 games? NOW what?

I think the biggest knock against Torreyes is his walk rate.2.0% in 2018 and 3.3 in 2017.Where as Adrianza had 6.6 in '18 and 8.6% in '17.It drags his OBP down to below average and Adrianza outpaced him both seasons.But Torreyes seems like a good hitter otherwise.I think I prefer Torreyes over the other options for the last roster spot.

 

I do believe that one of Adrianza/Torreyes needs to make the team though.Our infield defense seems like it has the potential to be the worst in the league.If we roll with Gonzalez, and Astudillo once Sano is back, we won't have a single good infielder on the roster.

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I can't wait for the leash to be longer in the regular for when Odorizzi is getting bombed in the first inning and giving up more than 5 runs. I sure hope he is ready for the season.

 

Austin will have to make the team, or he will be gone and picked up.

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yarnivek1972
Mar 11 2019 06:57 PM

I can't wait for the leash to be longer in the regular for when Odorizzi is getting bombed in the first inning and giving up more than 5 runs. I sure hope he is ready for the season.

Austin will have to make the team, or he will be gone and picked up.

The fact that he’s out of options makes him unattractive to other teams. They can’t shuttle him back and forth. In this day of 12-13 man pitching staffs, a guy that basically hits and does nothing else and realistically plays only first base is not a luxury most teams can afford to roster unless he is going to be their starter.

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