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Looking Way Ahead: Who Needs to be Added to the 40-Man Roster... in November

Normally we consider which players will need to be added to the 40 man roster after the season, leading up to the decision becoming official in mid-November. But let’s look ahead to that decision as it may affect decisions throughout the season. Plus, it never hurts to know who is playing for spots on the 40-man roster.
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Admittedly, so much can and will happen between now and November. There will be spring training, a 162-game regular season and a 140-game minor-season. There will likely be trades. The 26-man active roster will be enacted for the first time. There will be injuries. There will be breakouts. And there will be players who struggle adjusting as they move up the ladder.

So primarily this is a fun exercise, an opportunity for you to read and see listed the players who need to be added. However, every year we also try to consider if there will be a logjam on the 40-man roster, and maybe some players who will be eligible could be considered as trade candidates.

So, here is a quick reminder of what players will be eligible for the 2020 Rule 5 draft if not protected on the 40-man roster. Here is this year’s criteria:
  • Players who signed when they were 18 or younger in 2016 (during the minor league season).
  • Players who signed when they were 19 or older in 2017.
  • Players who were eligible in previous seasons are also eligible again.
  • Players drafted or signed during the 2014 season became free agents after the World Series was complete.
But back to the players needing to be added or risk losing to the Rule 5 draft,.. In 10 months. I’ll break them into a few categories. The Givens are players that I think have to be added or there is a high likelihood that they will be selected by another team. The next category will be Possibly. I think there is a chance these guys could be added depending upon how many players the team chooses to add. Because we are so far out, I chose to add more names, so I included some that may be On the Bubble at this point. And then of course I jotted down the other players that are eligible. The final group is comprised of the players will be free agents at the conclusion of the World Series unless added before then.

The Givens

If I had written this article one year ago, I certainly would have had Wander Javier in the Givens category. Injuries can certainly alter perspective. The numbers game, mid-season acquisitions and other players stepping up can also be a factor. In addition, some of these guys could get called up before the season ends and won’t be on the list.
  • OF Alex Kirilloff - 1st round pick in 2016 from high school in Pennsylvania. Top prospects are going to get protected. They won’t be non-tendered. Kirilloff won’t be non-tendered. In fact, there is a decent chance he gets called up during the season.
  • RHP Jordan Balazovic - 5th round pick in 2016 from secondary school in Ontario. A Top 100 prospect coming into the 2020 season. Should spent most of 2020 in Pensacola.
  • OF/1B Brent Rooker - Competitive Balance A pick in 2017 from Mississippi State. Likely to be called up in-season, but if not, he is likely to be added.
  • RHP Edwar Colina - Signed from Venezuela in late September 2015. Colina wasn’t a big prospect when he was signed, now he’s hitting triple-digits and has the pitches to potentially be a starter.
Possibles
  • SS Wander Javier - Left off the 40-man roster this offseason, he went unclaimed. Still immensely talented and could break out at any time. Again, by season’s end, he’s a candidate for the Givens section.
  • C Ben Rortvedt - 2nd round pick in 2016 from Wisconsin. He has moved up the system pretty quickly and spent half of the season at Pensacola before a knee injury. Terrific defensively and very strong.
  • 3B Jose Miranda - The 73rd overall pick in 2016 draft from Puerto Rico, Miranda has hit some and displays a lot of power potential. Has played some second base but profiles to third base.
  • OF Akil Baddoo - The 74th overall pick in the 2016 draft out of high school in Georgia. Missed most of 2019 season with Tommy John surgery, but is a great athlete who has a good approach at the plate and a great power-speed combination.
  • RHP Bailey Ober - Twins 12th round pick in 2017 out of the College of Charleston, he has put up fantastic numbers when he has been on the mound. If healthy, he’s got a chance.
  • RHP Griffin Jax - Jax was also left unprotected and went unclaimed this year. He’s already had success in AA and could be MLB ready sometime in 2020.
  • RHP Luis Rijo - 21-year-old from Venezuela posted a 2.86 ERA in 107 innings in Cedar Rapids in 2019 but still went unclaimed in the Rule 5.
  • LHP Jovani Moran - The lefty dominated the lower levels of the minors, but injuries cost him time in 2019. But, he’s young, left-handed and has a couple of plus-pitches. Definitely could contribute in 2021, if not 2020.
  • RHP Tyler Wells - Wells may have been an easy add in 2019 if he hadn’t missed the season due to Tommy John surgery. He’ll rehab most of the year which means he’ll be closer to his return. Can he get back to his 2018 performance level?
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To learn more about all of these prospects, and about 150 more, purchase your copy(ies) of the 2020 Twins Prospect Handbook. From Melvi Acosta to Malique Ziegler and everyone in between, learn about their backgrounds, their 2019 seasons, their scouting reports and a forecast for 2020. Available in paperback ($17.99) and as a PDF ebook ($12.99). 145 pages of Twins prospect content. And hey, if you want the previous 11 Twins Prospect Handbooks, you can get them too.
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On the Bubble
  • OF Gabriel Maciel - Signed with the Diamondbacks in June 2016 from Brazil. Came to the Twins in the Eduardo Escobar trade in July 2018. Not a big guy, but he hits a lot of line drives, runs really well and plays good outfield defense.
  • LHP Bryan Sammons - The Twins 8th round pick in 2017 from Western Carolina, he dominated at Ft. Myers before spending the final four months of the season in Pensacola. Left-handed, he has four quality pitches.
  • 2B Yunior Severino - Enough of an international prospect that he received two nine-figure signing bonuses. He had a solid season in E-Town in 2018. Unfortunately fractured his thumb early in the 2019 season. Could break out in 2020 if he stays in the lineup.
  • LHP Lachlan Wells - Wells was well on track to be added a couple of years ago but Tommy John surgery cost him some development time. He missed the 2018 season and returned in the second half of 2019. Can he return to form in his first full season back?
  • LHP Charlie Barnes - 4th round pick in 2017 from Clemson. He lefty pitched at three levels in 2019 (8 starts in Ft. Myers, 13 starts in Pensacola, 4 starts in Rochester).
  • RHP Tom Hackimer - Twins 4th round pick in 2015 from St. Johns, the side-winder had surgery after the AFL in 2018. He pitched briefly for the Miracle before finishing the season in Pensacola.
  • 1B/OF Trey Cabbage - 4th round pick in 2015 from high school in Tennessee. Broke out early in Cedar Rapids in 2019 and showed some of his immense power potential in 2019. If he takes another step, he could be added.
  • 1B Zander Wiel - Twins 12th round pick in 2015 from Vanderbilt. Wiel wasn’t added or selected after his 2019 season in Rochester in which he hit 40 doubles and 24 home runs. He should get a shot in 2020 during that season.
Others in their first year of eligibility:
  • Tyler Benninghoff, Matt Jones, Kidany Salva, Jared Akins, David Banuelos, Andrew Bechtold, Mark Contreras, Ernie De La Trinidad, Calvin Faucher, Jordan Gore, Derek Molina, Ricky Ramirez, Joe Record, Petru Balan, Yeremi De La Cruz, Jesus Feliz, Osiris German, Taylor Grzelakowski, Jimmy Kerrigan, Fernando Martinez, Michael Montero, Junior Navas, Daniel Ozoria, Ruben Santana, Jesus Toledo, Frandy Torres, Janigson Villalobos.
Others returning to Rule 5 eligibility after 2020.
  • Melvi Acosta, Adam Bray, Joe Cronin, Miguel De Jesus, Yeltsin Encarnacion, Zach Featherstone, Moises Gomez, Caleb Hamilton, Hector Lujan, Ryan Mason, Alex Robinson, Alex Schick, Carlos Suniaga, Tyler Watson, Aaron Whitefield, Malique Ziegler.
These players will become free agents at the conclusion of the 2020 World Series unless added to the 40-man roster.
  • Sam Clay, Andro Cutura, Randy LeBlanc, Jose Martinez, Jake Reed.
Again, this is mostly an exercise in looking ahead, information for you to consider throughout the 2020 season. It’s also something where, as the Twins talk trades and potentially see a 40-man roster crunch next offseason, maybe this information comes into play.

And frankly, it will just be kind of fun to see which of these players move up or down the list and how this list looks different in November.

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To learn more about all of these prospects, and about 150 more, purchase your copy(ies) of the 2020 Twins Prospect Handbook. From Melvi Acosta to Malique Ziegler and everyone in between, learn about their backgrounds, their 2019 seasons, their scouting reports and a forecast for 2020. Available in paperback ($17.99) and as a PDF ebook ($12.99). 145 pages of Twins prospect content. And hey, if you want the previous 11 Twins Prospect Handbooks, you can get them too.

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1) Can you teach me that new multi quote thingy you did? I’ve been struggling with that too.

 

1) Can you teach me that new multi quote thingy you did? I’ve been struggling with that too.

  • View the first post you want to comment on
  • Click MultiQuote
  • View the second post you want to comment on
  • Click MultiQuote
  • Look at the bottom of the screen and click "Reply to 2 quoted post(s)"

That last button might be hidden by an ad at the bottom of the screen. Click the X button on the ad to remove it first.

 

Despite documentation somewhere that you can multiquote up to 3, I've never succeeded with more than 2.

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Brock Beauchamp
Jan 19 2020 08:07 AM

Interesting that Garver could be a Johnny Bench Award (college baseball's top catcher) finalist (1 of 3) in both 2012 and 2013, and runner up to Turner in 2013, it he was a terrible catcher. Try to stop him now, eh?

https://www.baseball...nch_award.shtml

No, this FO did not hold him back. The previous did, in my opinion. I know many did not appreciate Garver until recently. I read about it for years. I guess I still will.

I also think Jeffers is and should be ahead of Rortvedt (hence the original quick post), but it is great to have both near. Things can change in a wink with catchers.

Garver was the worst defensive catcher in baseball in 2018, if I recall correctly.

He was truly awful behind the plate when he arrived in Minnesota.

Interesting that Garver could be a Johnny Bench Award (college baseball's top catcher) finalist (1 of 3) in both 2012 and 2013, and runner up to Turner in 2013, it he was a terrible catcher. Try to stop him now, eh?

https://www.baseball...nch_award.shtml

No, this FO did not hold him back. The previous did, in my opinion. I know many did not appreciate Garver until recently. I read about it for years. I guess I still will.

I also think Jeffers is and should be ahead of Rortvedt (hence the original quick post), but it is great to have both near. Things can change in a wink with catchers.


The fact that Kyle Schwarber was also a finalist for this award tells me that it's not exclusively based on defense.

 

Hey! Look at me! I think I finally figured out how to multi-quote! LOL. Going to just be excited for myself for a moment because no matter how smart an individual I am, or pretend to be, or techno savy about certain things, I am just not a natural computer guy. So self kuddos to me. Lol

I like both comments equally. I just have a great, but feeling about Rotvedt. I have a soft place for catchers and feel they are vastly underrated. Mostly because they may be the hardest position to quantify. Everyone wants a great offensive catcher...rare as they may be...who also plays great defense. But how do you measure their defense? Is it SB %? Is it framing? Is it any of the current defensive analytics? A long time ago, even with game plannjng and sideline suggestion, an NFL QB used to call plays. Despite analytics and dugout calls, the catcher still has to call a game and have the trust of his pitcher to "work" a game together. How do you measure that sort of thing?

Rortvedt, right now, to me, is behind Jeffers due to age and bat, and because everything seems to indicate the Twins really like and believe in Jeffers. But being the current #2 in the system shouldn't diminish the ability and potential of Rortvedt as a viable, quality ML catcher with hit and power potential. Who knows how good he could yet be. But with Garver in the mix as well, I do wonder if there is room for all 3.

We talk about OF/1B/DH depth in the system, but I can't recall this much catching depth in the system for some time, if ever. A trade could be involved at some point. But this is another good problem to have.

 

First and foremost... congratulations on the multi-quote... I've never even tried that,so nice job!

 

And, I never mean to denigrate Rortvedt. He is a fantastic prospect, and is a future big leaguers, probably for a long time. I just happen to think that Jeffers is a higher-rated prospect. It's just that when we compare, it comes across as either/or, and it doesn't have tobe. 

 

The nice thing is they'll both start at Pensacola... They have Telis and Astudillo probably at Rochester. Telis crushed at Rochester last year. So, there isn't any rush on either. They'll both likely be behind the plate half of the time. Jeffers will likely get more opportunity. Hopefully they both play really well and each is in a position to make the big-league roster by Opening Day 2021!

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OF/1B/DH depth is easy, catching depth is not.

 

And I don't think the Twins actually have enough catching depth to really think about trading someone unless the perfect deal arises to make them want to do it.

 

As for past catching depth, it's pretty hard to rival Mauer with Ramos in the minors. Garver may be good but he ain't Joe Mauer and while some of the prospects might be good, Ramos *at least* equalled them at the time.

 

Or, if you want to go back a few more years, Pierzynski in Minnesota with Mauer in the minors. That may have literally been the best catching depth in the history of MLB. We're talking about a guy in MLB with 20+ career WAR, followed by a guy with close to 50 career WAR.

 

Now that I think of it, the Twins have this weird ability to field some really nasty players at the ends of the field; centerfield and catcher.

How does a team field so many good/great players at those two positions over 40 years while sucking pretty hard at fielding even decent players at the other seven spots?

 

Some great points here... First, they have done a great job in CF and Catcher... I think that they have prioritized (at least they did in the past) high-end high-school hitting draft picks that are athletic and can play CF or SS. Not many end up there, but they want to make sure they give themselves options at those spots. Those athletes can typically move elsewhere. Hunter, Span, Revere, Benson (adding Gomez in a trade). 

 

Secondly, I know they always want to be semi-aggressive in the draft with catchers. Look at 2013 when they took Turner, Navarreto and Garver in the first nine rounds. Rortvedt. Jeffers. Chris Herrmann was a 6th round pick. And then they draft a bunch late too because they fully understand that the catching position can be a really tough position, physically and mentally, and it's hard to get to the big leagues. I also think the work Tanner Swanson did, and the philosophy of providing rest, especially for catchers all help. 

 

The one other point that I thought was interesting... Wilson Ramos was a terrific prospect, but I don't know that I agree that he was a better prospect then than Jeffers is now. I think the Twins system is much stronger, so him ranking 7th compared to Ramos ranking 2nd or 3rd probably doesn't show it. But I think they're more similar than it may appear. (I do think Ramos may have been a slightly better prospect, though there were a lot of age questions with him at the time too, I just think it's close.) 

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8 Players are coming off the 26 man at the end of next season.

 

Jake Odorizzi
Nelson Cruz
Marwin Gonzalez
Homer Bailey
Romo
Alex Avilia
Rich Hill
Tyler Clippard

 

There are also some very expendable players on the 40 man. Plus, it's quite likely a couple players get traded. I don't see a big problem on the horizon.

Not all 8 of these spots will be available for new additions to the 40-man.Unless the Twins decide to fill all 8 spots from the minor leagues, new players will be signed or traded for to fill at least half of these spots.

 

But the key point I get from reading Seth's post is the large number of very good prospects running into the Rule 5 threat this coming November.Now will all or any be gone if left unprotected, no one knows.But it sure seems to me to be a bigger problem than I recall in recent years....which is good!

 

I strongly disagree. Rortvedt has had a consistently better stick than Turner and I don’t think Jeffers will ever be a hitter at Garvers level.

 

To be fair, Garver has never hit at what is now Garver's level. 

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Hey! Look at me! I think I finally figured out how to multi-quote! LOL. Going to just be excited for myself for a moment because no matter how smart an individual I am, or pretend to be, or techno savy about certain things, I am just not a natural computer guy. So self kuddos to me. Lol

I like both comments equally. I just have a great, but feeling about Rotvedt. I have a soft place for catchers and feel they are vastly underrated. Mostly because they may be the hardest position to quantify. Everyone wants a great offensive catcher...rare as they may be...who also plays great defense. But how do you measure their defense? Is it SB %? Is it framing? Is it any of the current defensive analytics? A long time ago, even with game plannjng and sideline suggestion, an NFL QB used to call plays. Despite analytics and dugout calls, the catcher still has to call a game and have the trust of his pitcher to "work" a game together. How do you measure that sort of thing?

Rortvedt, right now, to me, is behind Jeffers due to age and bat, and because everything seems to indicate the Twins really like and believe in Jeffers. But being the current #2 in the system shouldn't diminish the ability and potential of Rortvedt as a viable, quality ML catcher with hit and power potential. Who knows how good he could yet be. But with Garver in the mix as well, I do wonder if there is room for all 3.

We talk about OF/1B/DH depth in the system, but I can't recall this much catching depth in the system for some time, if ever. A trade could be involved at some point. But this is another good problem to have.

The outfield depth we have been talking about is somewhat misleading.Yes, the Twins have lots of good young outfielders in the system.But in 2019 none were pushing for jobs with the Twins.When a couple starters went down, Buxton and Rosario/Kepler for short stints on the IL, none were available to help the Twins.So they ended up with Cave, Wade and various infielders playing in the outfield.  

 

Will any of this group be available, if needed, in 2020?I would hope so but not certain if injuries hit during spring training.

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I strongly disagree. Rortvedt has had a consistently better stick than Turner and I don’t think Jeffers will ever be a hitter at Garvers level.


Jeffers has outhit Garver at both high A and AA, while being younger at both levels.
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Major League Ready
Jan 19 2020 12:08 PM

 

Not all 8 of these spots will be available for new additions to the 40-man.Unless the Twins decide to fill all 8 spots from the minor leagues, new players will be signed or traded for to fill at least half of these spots.

 

But the key point I get from reading Seth's post is the large number of very good prospects running into the Rule 5 threat this coming November.Now will all or any be gone if left unprotected, no one knows.But it sure seems to me to be a bigger problem than I recall in recent years....which is good!

 

I should have elaborated. My thought is this will make for some interesting maneuvering both in terms of how they are filled, when they are filled and how that works out for managing the 40 man. Here is my guess as to how they are filled.

 

Jake Odorizzi – Hopefully does well and is resigned
Nelson Cruz – Sano moves from 1B to DH / Kirilloff takes 1B
Marwin Gonzalez – Internally but who IDK? There are a few possibilities.
Homer Bailey - ???
Romo – Replaced internally
Alex Avilia – Replaced by Jeffers
Rich Hill - ??? Let’s hope at least one of Bailey / Hill is replaced internally.
Tyler Clippard – Replaced Internally or I could see signing a LH RP next year.

To be fair, Garver has never hit at what is now Garver's level.


Yeah, guess that’s true too, Lol!!
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Doctor Gast
Jan 20 2020 06:20 AM

We need to be good chess players, be several steps ahead of where we`re at. We lost Stephen Gonsalves this year to New York Mets because we couldn`t protect him. I believe Mets have good eye for talent. I don`t think Gonsalves had a clear shot in MN but he is worth something to someone. I believe we could`ve traded him last dead line. What I would`ve liked to see was trading Lamonte & Gonsales to PIT for Archer & Stratton. I believe PIT have a good eye for talent but didn`t know how to develop it so we could have taken advantage of that. Archer was cheap his stock more than doubled since the change in management. Archer could have made an impact last year & greater this year w/ the help of Wes Johnson. Stratton was a high draft pick & has high spin rate. This is my speculation & option which might not be worth anything but like to throw that out there.

This year looks like a greater log jam so greater creativity is needed for us not lose any more assets 

That is one helluva a lot dof ecent prospects, or trade chips.


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