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Luis Arraez - 2018

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CHC 10, MIN 6: Hey, Remember Joe Mauer?

Joe Mauer had been struggling since coming off the DL but it was a different story Friday afternoon at Wrigley Field. Unfortunately, Jose Berrios had a similar role reversal. He went from pitching like an ace of his last several starts to pitching a dud on the North Side of Chicago.
Image courtesy of © Matt Marton-USA TODAY Sports
Snapshot (chart via FanGraphs)
Jose Berrios: 18 Game Score, 4.1 IP, 6 ER, 2 K, 4 BB, 56.4% strikes
Bullpen: 3.2 IP, 4 ER, 4 K, 2 BB
Lineup: 3-fro-12 w/RISP, 9LOB
Top three per WPA: Mauer .382, Garver .109, Rosario .052
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Mauer entered today with just one home run and 13 RBIs on the year, but he got the Twins going in a big way early. He smacked a three-run oppo taco in the third inning, then a two-run double in the fourth. All five of those RBIs came with two outs.

Joe’s not the type of hitter who’s going to carry an offense for an extended stretch, but if he can be a consistent threat it’s going to go a long way toward helping the Eds. What about the rest of the game? Uh …

Berrios wasn’t looking like himself, but he managed to get into the fifth inning with a 5-2 lead. He retired the first batter in the inning, but then gave up a single, hit a batter and followed that up with another hit to load the bases.

Garvin Alston went out, and I’m guessing he specifically told Jose “don’t give up a grand slam.” I think that’s how those visits usually go. Anyway, Berrios didn’t listen, and Addison Russell hit a grand slam on the very next pitch to put the Cubs up for good.

Matt Magill gave up a two-run homer to Ben Zobrist in the sixth, then a solo shot to Kyle Schwarber in the seventh. Matt Belisle gave up a run in the eighth. That’s eight earned runs for Belisle in six innings pitched for the Twins this year.

Maued ended up with three hits, adding a single in the ninth. Both Mitch Garver and Eddie Rosario collected two hits and walked.

In case you missed it, the Twins DFA’d Felix Jorge to add Willians Astudillo to the 40-man roster because Taylor Motter had to go on the DL. Astudillo did not play today, but he was in the on-deck circle ready to hit for Berrios right before that disastrous fifth inning, ironically enough.

Postgame With Molitor

Bullpen Usage
Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:
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AL Central Standings
CLE 44-35
MIN 35-43 (-8.5)
DET 36-46 (-9.5)
CHW 28-52 (-16.5)
KC 25-55 (-19.5)

Next Three Games
Sat at CHC, 1:20 pm CT: Adalberto Mejia vs. Tyler Chatwood
Sun at CHC, 1:20 pm CT: Lance Lynn vs. Jon Lester
Mon at MIL, 7:10 pm CT: TBD

Last Three Games
MIN 2, CHW 1: Walking Away With a Win
CHW 6, MIN 1: Gibby Gets Got
CHW 8, MIN 4: South Side Slip

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Berrios had a bad day, Magill and Belisle pitched to their talent level - so we DFA Jorge and not Belisle.Please explain. So can someone pick up our number 20 prospect and put him on their list of prospects?If so I would wonder what the Twins were thinking, but then I forget the FO has a plan and is smarter than all the rest of us.I am so excited. 

    • Mike Sixel, jokin, DocBauer and 3 others like this

Molitor says Berrios was just a little off today. That has been the Twins attitude all season. It explains why this team has been losing this year.

    • Jerr, mikelink45 and DocBauer like this

Tom, you have perfected your writing style. Good stuff!

    • Jerr likes this

Is anyone going to ask the FO why Belisle has a job, and when he says mentor, follow up with "which young pitchers are actually on the roster" and ask what the other 6 - 8 veterans are doing?

    • Thrylos, jokin, GCTF and 6 others like this
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yarnivek1972
Jun 29 2018 07:35 PM
Escobar is reverting to the mean. He’s been slumping the last week or so.

Anyone who thought he was going to be a 150 OPS + guy was likely a little optimistic.
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Escobar is reverting to the mean. He’s been slumping the last week or so.

Anyone who thought he was going to be a 150 OPS + guy was likely a little optimistic.

Rosario has cooled off some too.
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Didn't watch or listen to the game, but it obviously stunk. Why is it when the offense breaks out the pitching breaks down? I wouldn't dare blast Berrios for having an off day. But what about Joe? WOW! Did he just break out? Man I hope so! An actual presence at the top of the order really helps.

I loved just about everything the FO did in 2017, (including some roster juggling), the draft, this past off season, and have some optimism for the draft this season, but they have made some moves this season that just leave me dumfouned! And I'm not talking Romero. They were surprisingly quick to promote him, give him a real opportunity, and his demotion is logical from the standpoint of the roster management game. But Belisle??? Not Slegers, Duffey, Reed, Curtiss, or any number of arms needing an opportunity. And now they DFA Jorge after he is finally back and beginning his rehab? The guy has decent potential as a back end starter or possible swing man.

I need to find a wall to bang my head against.
    • Dantes929, jokin, adorduan and 4 others like this
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twinssporto
Jun 29 2018 07:53 PM

Thanks for the game recap.  Couple of thoughts as I was at the game:

 

1. Saw Patrick Reusse at Murphy's bar before the game.  He was walking around and saying hello to all the Twins fans.  He was fun to speak with. His shirt was soaked with sweat...

 

2. It was so hot today at the game I think I lost 25 pounds in water weight.  Maybe had 10 beers and never had to visit the restroom (I know TMI).

 

3. Sat behind home plate and it looked like the Ump had a hard time finding the strike zone (including Jose).

 

4.  We lost and we still had a great time at Wrigley.  The Cub fans are nice people.

 

Best regards,

 

Twinssporto reporting from Wrigley Field 

 

 

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Today was a first in my life-turned off the TV with my favorite player pitching and a 3 run lead. Saw the hand-writing on the wall, and even worse, wasn’t even pissed when Jose gave up the grand slam. Something about this team is off..........
    • Jerr, jokin, tarheeltwinsfan and 4 others like this

 

Escobar is reverting to the mean. He’s been slumping the last week or so.

Anyone who thought he was going to be a 150 OPS + guy was likely a little optimistic.

He hasn't been the same since he was hit by Porcello. It's so important to protect your players.

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Tom Froemming
Jun 29 2018 08:14 PM

Alan Busenitz is being sent down to make room for Adalberto Mejia ...

 

Matt Belisle is bulletproof. 

    • Jerr, tarheeltwinsfan, Vanimal46 and 1 other like this

 

Alan Busenitz is being sent down to make room for Adalberto Mejia ...

 

Matt Belisle is bulletproof. 

Belisle is what a losing team really needs. Typical mop up pitcher!

 

Don't forget Motter who's on DL. Grossman should be a bench bat at most.

He hits .220 with no power. He's not even a bench bat. At least Vargas or Carter could hit a HR once in a while. 

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Alan Busenitz is being sent down to make room for Adalberto Mejia ...

 

Matt Belisle is bulletproof. 

:banghead:

 

I'm fine with Busenitz getting ferried between the majors and AAA, but at the expense of Belisle? After winning a game? Blech. <_<

    • jun, adorduan, DocBauer and 2 others like this

Alan Busenitz is being sent down to make room for Adalberto Mejia ...

Matt Belisle is bulletproof.

l cant wrap my head around this. Why?

Unless...they're trolling us!
    • jokin, Danchat, Sconnie and 7 others like this

 

Escobar is reverting to the mean. He’s been slumping the last week or so.

Anyone who thought he was going to be a 150 OPS + guy was likely a little optimistic.

I don't think anyone thought that....

 

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the_brute_squad
Jun 29 2018 09:01 PM

 

l cant wrap my head around this. Why?

Unless...they're trolling us!

The only thing I can think of is maybe they'll be able to get something for Belisle at the trade deadline. This team as packed it in and get ready for the garage sale. What's the price tag for a Dozier? Hey, is that an Escobar in the corner and is the price negotiable? Anyone need a Rodney... he's slightly used but is in good enough shape for a few months.

 

 

The only thing I can think of is maybe they'll be able to get something for Belisle at the trade deadline. This team as packed it in and get ready for the garage sale. What's the price tag for a Dozier? Hey, is that an Escobar in the corner and is the price negotiable? Anyone need a Rodney... he's slightly used but is in good enough shape for a few months.

If anything, Belisle would be a guy to eat the innings that Duke/Rodney would get after they get traded... he has zero trade value and it would take a huge turnaround for him to be worth anything. This guy couldn't get a major league deal after what he did last year, so if anybody wants him, they'll get him when he's DFA'd.

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Old Twins Cap
Jun 29 2018 09:23 PM

 

l cant wrap my head around this. Why?

Unless...they're trolling us!

 

I think they intend to deal Rodney, so the veteran Belisle to close in August and September.

 

Wouldn't you?

 

If you want a draft pick next year.....

So we keep Belisle, but put Jorge on waivers. We send down Busenitz, who isn't the worst ERA on the staff and keep...Belisle.

 

We bring up a third catcher to do what, play the infield?,Heck, bring up Zack Granite and let him play centerfield until you decide to bring back Buxton. See what Granite can do.

 

Jorge may have fallen behind in the possible rotation arms, but he still is better than (name your player currently on the roster).

 

Somethings aren't making sense here in Twins land.

 

Maybe the Cubs will think Joe Mauer is invincible at Wrigley and make a play for his bat to get them to the playoffs. Would Joe go to Chicago with a chance for the post season? A way to end a career, perhaps? Let's showcase Joe more the next two games!

    • jokin, D.C Twins and BJames like this
Keeping Belisle because of a trade or two still doesn't make sense. Why not give guys like Buzenitz, Duffey, Curtis, etc, some run?

I can't think of a scenario in which it makes sense to keep Belisle. Maybe if there were a reliever conference in Vegas, Belisle couldn't attend because he was sick, and the conference got struck by a meteor leaving him the only reliever left on earth.
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KirbyDome89
Jun 29 2018 09:46 PM

After giving up 3 and 4 ERs respectively to Bos and TX, Belisle has only allowed 1 run in his last two innings pitched. He's clearly started to turn things around. Idk why everybody is bitching about sending out the younger, more talented Busenitiz or DFA'ing Jorge to keep Belisle's veteran presence around.....

    • USAFChief, Jerr, jokin and 1 other like this
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walt-o-meal
Jun 29 2018 10:02 PM

God bless Joe F. Mauer.According to LEN3, he says he had to play because his mom was at the game. 

 

Here's hoping child #3 is a boy, so he can get drafted by the Twins and hit some guilt dingers for grandma.

Grossman batting AND in the field...... oh be still by beating heart!!!!!

 

If only they had him back in the lead off position, we would have had the trifecta!  

 

There is always tomorrow though, because with Grossman apparently, there will always be a tomorrow

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After giving up 3 and 4 ERs respectively to Bos and TX, Belisle has only allowed 1 run in his last two innings pitched. He's clearly started to turn things around. Idk why everybody is bitching about sending out the younger, more talented Busenitiz or DFA'ing Jorge to keep Belisle's veteran presence around.....

Now that's the kind of wry, pathos-laced ironic wit best remembered from the darkest end days of the Ryan/Gardy era.

Kirby, let's just say the plain truth hurts so good. And here, we thought the days and months of head-scratching fringiest of veteran personnel moves were a thing of the past.
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