Spring Training - Game 15 - vs Pirates

[Mr. Ed]

Twins Clawing back

Hughes single
Wilkin R. Force out
Casilla walk
Span rbi single

[Mr. Ed]

Carroll F8 (Limbo: How low can the average go?)
Double steal w/Mauer up
Mauer 2 run single
Valencia ground out

10-4

[Mr. Ed]

11-4

Lead off solo HR, and 2 out double off Swarzak.

2 1/3IP 5H/3R/BB/K

[Shane Wahl]

Bates doubles, Hughes walks. Wilkin Ramirez up. 11-4 in the 3rd.

Good to see that Span stole another base.

[Shane Wahl]

Ramirez flies out to right. It's up to Alexi.

[Shane Wahl]

And he strikes out. 11-4 going to the 4th.

[mikeee]

2 on, no out, no score 3 batters later.

[thrylos98]

Doom!!!!!!

[Mr. Ed]

Dumatrait comes in and gives up another HR. Glad he's not wasting a spot on the 40 man roster.

[Highabove]

I ask this with all sincerity, but why do folks believe that Doyle is ready for the Majors. He has yet to pitch at the AAA level?

[Mr. Ed]

Dumatrait gave up another HR, 2 run shot to Garrett Jones

Hughes RBI double after double by Plouffe. Hughes bat warming up.

Horrid pitching day.

[Fanatic Jack]

Jim,

I told you Terry Doyle should be offered back to the Chicago White Sox ASAP. Kyle Waldrop just moved up the charts. Yes!!!!!!!!

[edavis0308]

Jim,

I told you Doyle should be offered back to the Chicago White Sox ASAP. Kyle Waldrop just moved up the charts. Yes!!!!!!!!

I dont think too many people will disagree with you over the fact that Doyle was going to be an underwhelming move that was going to have little upside.

[Seth Stohs]

I ask this with all sincerity, but why do folks believe that Doyle is ready for the Majors. He has yet to pitch at the AAA level?

It wasn't that we 'knew' he was ready for the big leagues... but as a Rule 5 pick, he is on the 40 and either makes the team or doesn't. Jsut because he didn't play at AAA doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't ready. Just because he got hit hard today... and his last outing... doesn't necessarily mean he isn't ready. I think we're also all smart enough to know that a very, very small percentage of Rule 5 picks stick with the team that selects them, at least not on the big league level.

[Mr. Ed]

It wasn't that we 'knew' he was ready for the big leagues... but as a Rule 5 pick, he is on the 40 and either makes the team or doesn't. Jsut because he didn't play at AAA doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't ready. Just because he got hit hard today... and his last outing... doesn't necessarily mean he isn't ready. I think we're also all smart enough to know that a very, very small percentage of Rule 5 picks stick with the team that selects them, at least not on the big league level.

yet I keep reading how Benson/Dozier/Parmelee allneed to go to Rochester because they haven't played much or any AAA ball.

Which is my argument. Just because those 3 haven't played at Roch much or at all, they need to get more season. I don't agree with that.

[Mr. Ed]

Dru solidifies his death grip on the #3 catcher with a RBI double.

[Mr. Ed]

Capps a 1-2-3 7th vs Pirates subs.

[mikeee]

3 errors for the twinkies.

[Seth Stohs]

yet I keep reading how Benson/Dozier/Parmelee allneed to go to Rochester because they haven't played much or any AAA ball.

That's part of the reason... In each case, there is also a solid reason why getting AAA time would be good... the first and foremost is playing time. All three are good prospects who are young enough that you don't want them in a reserve role. The OF is currently set for the Twins. The middle infield appears set at this time. And, at least for now, the Twins have a 1B and a DH. So, none of the three would play, so they might as well go play in Rochester. Secondly, i think each of them has things that they can improve upon by playing more. With Benson, I think that by playing he can (hopefully) improve his contact rate. Parmelee had a solid 2011 in NB but not eye-popping, so he can continue to work to see if the power he showed in September and in March is legit after showing little power in his minor league career, including at New Britain. I think Dozier's might just be a case of two other guys getting the first chance. There are mixed opinions even among Twins brass about if he can be an everyday SS, 2B or if he's more of a utility player.

Like I wrote the other day, there are plenty of guys that the Twins have called up from AA and kept up for whatever reason. Joe Mauer. Brad Radke. But it is an exception for sure for a guy to be called up from AA. It isn't because it's AA, but it's generally because there is something that needs to continue to be improved.

[Mr. Ed]

So Doyle may be ready, but you're sure that those 3 are not.

Ok, got it.