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Parker Hageman
11-01-2013, 12:58 PM
According to the Pioneer Press's Mike Berardino (http://blogs.twincities.com/twins/2013/11/01/minnesota-twinsights-how-about-a-jason-kubel-reunion/), outfielder Jason Kubel, who was released by the Cleveland Indians earlier in the day, said he would be interested in a reunion with the Minnesota Twins.


“Yeah, for sure,” Kubel said. “I loved it here. I really miss the guys. I had a great relationship with Gardy, Andy (pitching coach Rick Anderson), (Joe) Vavra — all the coaches and the few players I remember that are still there. I love the guys over there.”

One of Kubel's biggest issues in 2013 was his inability to handle fastballs. According to ESPN Stats & Info, in 2012 Kubel hit .298/.368/.616 with 20 home runs and a whopping .309 well-hit average. That dropped considerably in 2013 when he finished the year hitting .261/.315/.400 with just 3 home runs and a well-hit average of .171 off of fastballs.


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Opponents attacked the upper portion of the zone more in 2013 (37% versus 30% in 2012) and Kubel’s lack of bat speed resulted in far less contact and power output.

While Kubel may be a bounce back candidate after his 2013 season, the Twins are not in need of a corner outfielder or designated hitter at this point. Oswaldo Arcia, in theory, can provide just as much production as the former Twin can.

Marta Shearing
11-01-2013, 01:04 PM
Wasnt kubel one of the biggest complainers about Target Field dimensions? Now he wants back after he struggled in a hitters park? No thanks, Jason.

twinsnorth49
11-01-2013, 01:05 PM
Pass.....next.

mike wants wins
11-01-2013, 01:08 PM
Not interested.

Brock Beauchamp
11-01-2013, 01:09 PM
Eh, no thanks.

But a Kubel/Plouffe RF platoon in the short-term might be pretty effective.

For the faint of heart, I apologize in advance for using the "P" word.

SpiritofVodkaDave
11-01-2013, 02:53 PM
Trade Willingham and bring Kubel in.

Thrylos
11-01-2013, 05:05 PM
Eh, no thanks.

But a Kubel/Plouffe RF platoon in the short-term might be pretty effective.

For the faint of heart, I apologize in advance for using the "P" word.

I think that Plouffe at RF will be fine. Matter of fact I bet would be better than a certain former sucky third baseman, former SS, former first round pick was.

I just cannot imagine the fun the centerfielder would have with Kubel and Willingham as OF bookends. They are both aging DHs who did not hit worth of anything last season.

Seth Stohs
11-01-2013, 06:06 PM
Wasnt kubel one of the biggest complainers about Target Field dimensions? Now he wants back after he struggled in a hitters park? No thanks, Jason.

He was about to be a top free agent who was playing well... at this point, he needs to let all teams know that he is willing to play anywhere!

Seth Stohs
11-01-2013, 06:07 PM
I actually wouldn't have any problem with Kubel getting a year and $2 million or something like that, even with the Twins. He's not old. He has proven himself over time. He could be a comeback candidate. He's not far removed from a big year (1 year).

I'm not saying I would sign him. I probably wouldn't. But I wouldn't be against it either.

Marta Shearing
11-01-2013, 06:10 PM
I agree, he's only professing his love for the Twins because he knows the offers will be scarce. Liked him as a gap hitter. Hated him as a wannabe HR hitter.

Rick Blaine
11-03-2013, 02:30 PM
I actually wouldn't have any problem with Kubel getting a year and $2 million or something like that, even with the Twins. He's not old. He has proven himself over time. He could be a comeback candidate. He's not far removed from a big year (1 year).

I'm not saying I would sign him. I probably wouldn't. But I wouldn't be against it either.

I wouldn't wouldn't mind seeing Kubel returning if he doesn't take at bats from Arcia. With Kubel on the team they would have to part ways with Doumit and possibly Willingham.

Shane Wahl
11-03-2013, 02:36 PM
Morneau and Kubel are both signing somewhere with a friendly hitters' park so they can play 2014 to regain some value.

Rosterman
11-03-2013, 02:44 PM
Kubel is looking for someplace, anyplace, to attempt a rebound. We have Willingham and Doumit, each for another year. Can he play first base? Arcia and maybe Plouffe better in the outfield. But then can he play third base. Don't see him as an especially good off-the-bench bat.

Joe A. Preusser
11-03-2013, 04:32 PM
Before he totally obliterated his knee in AAA? Kubel was on track to be a force in MLB. He's probably not anything more than a flyer of a DH at this point, but I would prefer him to Doumit (with Pinto catching) or Hammer (with Arcia playing in left).

jorgenswest
11-03-2013, 05:43 PM
Kubel is a poor fielder that should only be a DH. He is too old to improve his poor defense.

I would prefer the a Twins choose defense and the upside of younger players over veteran hitters who might squeeze one more good year out if their bat but are certain to be a liability in the field.

Lets back up our pitching with a good defense. Kansas City and Pitsburgh had great defenses. A better defense makes every one of their pitchers appear more valuable with their improved numbers.

Joe A. Preusser
11-03-2013, 06:01 PM
Kubel is a poor fielder that should only be a DH. He is too old to improve his poor defense.

I would prefer the a Twins choose defense and the upside of younger players over veteran hitters who might squeeze one more good year out if their bat but are certain to be a liability in the field.

Lets back up our pitching with a good defense. Kansas City and Pitsburgh had great defenses. A better defense makes every one of their pitchers appear more valuable with their improved numbers.

Before his terrible knee injury Kubel was an above average defending corner OFer. I feel bad for him and the organization that he suffered that injury. Could you imaging if he had progressed normally and been an all-star and been signed to a long term contract for us?

ashburyjohn
11-03-2013, 07:12 PM
I don't see him as a good fit anymore.
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TKGuy
11-03-2013, 08:05 PM
Only a DH at this point, makes no sense

Winston Smith
11-03-2013, 08:56 PM
I think he may need to try Japan for a couple years.

goulik
11-03-2013, 09:26 PM
Japan? Ouch. Not saying your wrong, just ouch. I loved Kubel and hate that things have gone this way for him. Sorry Kubes... it just isn't in the Twins best interest to bring you back.

nicksaviking
11-03-2013, 10:57 PM
No kidding Kubel is interested in playing for the Twins. After a season like he just had, he's got to be interested in a major league deal from any club.

He doesn't seem to be a fit at this point. Things could change though if the other injury prone speed bumps, Willingham and Doumit, get moved or injured.

ericchri
11-04-2013, 09:07 AM
With Willingham and Doumit already on the roster squeezing Arcia for playing time, I can't see much reason to pick up Kubel. I always liked Kubel, and I must have only watched his better games in the field cause he never appeared as bad an outfielder to me as he is generally regarded as being. He moved and throws much better than Willingham ever has from what I've seen, not that that's a huge bar to get over.

SpitefulRabbit617
11-04-2013, 09:32 AM
Would way rather have Colabello DH and k 3 times than to have Kubel back

Winston Smith
11-04-2013, 09:58 AM
Much rather pick up Nate McLouth. Less power but much much better fielder and with our pitching we need good fielders.
What power Kubel sill has ends up with warning track fly balls in Target Field.

Marta Shearing
11-04-2013, 09:59 AM
Always came across as lazy to me. Seemed to always be pudgy and out of shape. Was the bad knee his excuse for not staying fit? His last year with the team when he milked a relatively minor injury was pretty much the nail in the coffin.

Boom Boom
11-04-2013, 10:47 AM
The Twins don't like platoons, so Kubel is a bad fit.

raindog
11-04-2013, 11:08 AM
The Twins don't like platoons, so Kubel is a bad fit.
Yep, a platoon with him and Plouffe at 1B could be really good. I'm assuming he could handle 1B.

Marta Shearing
11-04-2013, 11:16 AM
I was thinking Plouffe could platoon with someone in RF until midseason when hicks and rosario are called up.
LF Rosario
CF Hicks
RF Arcia

iTwins
11-04-2013, 11:51 AM
Doumit, Willingham, Collabello, Arcia - the Twins already have a roster full of players with his skillset. Arcia still has upside and the potential to develop into a more balanced (consistent) hitter - I'd rather he get the at-bats. I wouldn't mind Kubel as a bench bat/DH fill in if the Twins had room, but without one of the above players being traded, I don't see the fit.

bholmgren
11-04-2013, 12:19 PM
Can he play 1B?? If so, I think he's a better option than Parmelee.

TheLeviathan
11-04-2013, 01:54 PM
Some smart team is going to pair him with someone who bashes lefties and give themselves a one hell of a productive DH or RF at a cheap price.

Reider
11-04-2013, 09:48 PM
I liked Kubel when he was with the Twins and I would have been just fine with him staying instead of leaving when him and Cuddy did. But at this stage in the game, it's mostly about the young guys, so I feel indifferent about him coming back.

After watching guys (as much as I appreciate their power) like D. Young, Willingham, Doumit etc., plod around the outfield over the last few years, it has really made me appreciate guys like Revere, Span, Hunter, Mastroianni, Hicks etc... who have the speed and athleticism to cover a lot of ground in the outfield.

D. Hocking
11-04-2013, 10:53 PM
“Yeah, for sure,” Kubel said. “I loved it here. I really miss the guys. I had a great relationship with Gardy, Andy (pitching coach Rick Anderson), (Joe) Vavra — all the coaches and the few players I remember that are still there. I love the guys over there.”

This might be the longest quote in the media I have seen for Kubel. His interviews made Mauer seem overly verbose and animated. It is kind of wild how the team has turned over. Who would he really know besides Mauer and Perkins and I guess Duensing? A few others might have been there his last year (where he was off the field much of it for the heel injury).

I liked Kubel for the most part, but I agree with other posters where we don't need another hitter with less than ideal speed etc. I do hope he finds some place and gets a nice rebound season.

Shane Wahl
11-04-2013, 11:34 PM
Even considering signing him seems wildly out of touch with the reality of the Twins in 2014 and beyond.

He was good in 2008, 2009, and 2012. He was just above average as a hitter in 2010 and 2011, and he was terrible last year. Why waste any time and money here?