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Nick Nelson
07-09-2013, 09:59 PM
You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.com/content.php?r=2053-Prospect-Rundown-Minor-Miracles

MichiganTwins
07-09-2013, 10:03 PM
Is there any chance Buxton gets promoted again this year?

Nick Nelson
07-09-2013, 10:23 PM
My guess would be no.

cmathewson
07-09-2013, 11:07 PM
Any idea who the next 10 are? Of course, Stewart would probably crack the top 10, as good as it is. Other top performers this year include Polanco, Harrison, Walker, Vargas, Baxendale, Tonkin, Minier, Duffey and Pinto.

Smcginnity
07-09-2013, 11:15 PM
cmathewson - Lewis Thorpe has looked like a top 20 guy as well. Along with Felix Jorge, Randy Rosario, and Yorman Landa. Plus, there are tons of other fringe guys that could blow up the next couple years like Nate Roberts, Alex Wimmers, Zach Jones, Taylor Rogers, Aderlin Mejia, Niko Goodrum, DJ Hicks, Logan Darnell, and JD Williams. Our minors are ridiculous!

Wookiee of the Year
07-09-2013, 11:16 PM
Worth underscoring is that as recently as this spring, we still had questions about whether Rosario would stick at 2B. His promotion seems to eliminate those concerns, as I assume the Twins would have held him at high A if they felt he had clear defensive issues to work out.

jokin
07-10-2013, 12:07 AM
My guess would be no.

Radcliffe teased that another promotion for Buxton was on the table in Jeremy's article. He's currently batting 3rd in the Ft Myers order in front of Vargas, let's see if that gets him more pitches to choose from over the next month. I'd like to see Buxton make the decision to promote an easy one.

Thegrin
07-10-2013, 01:44 AM
After reading all the box scores for E-Town and GCL Twins, I am sad to say that, although a few players are hitting well, no pitchers appear to be standouts.

AM.
07-10-2013, 05:43 AM
Where is Lewin Diaz going to stack in this list? And how about Goncalves?

Blackjack
07-10-2013, 07:51 AM
So what changed within the Twins organization? Why are they having success drafting the last couple of years vs. the failures that they had previously? Those failures has led to the current losing state of the Twins.

Pitz
07-10-2013, 08:02 AM
After reading all the box scores for E-Town and GCL Twins, I am sad to say that, although a few players are hitting well, no pitchers appear to be standouts.

???

If this is a serious statement, I suggest checking out the stats pages for
E-Town - Individual Stats (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=576&stn=true&sid=t576) (Randy Rosario, Yorman Landa, and Felix Jorge)
and
GCL Twins - Stats (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=474) (Lewis Thorpe)

On top of that, recent draftees Kohl Stewart, Ryan Eades, and Stephen Gonsalves have all just recently made their debuts.

Sconnie
07-10-2013, 12:16 PM
So what changed within the Twins organization? Why are they having success drafting the last couple of years vs. the failures that they had previously? Those failures has led to the current losing state of the Twins.



TR has been busy not only drafting quality prospects, but making quality trades for prospects, vs. making trades for pros. Our current state is as much from poor trade and FA signings as anything.

Kirby Puckett
07-10-2013, 02:20 PM
All 10 of those guys should be up by 2016, but after that the next 10 really won't amount to much. Throw in Kohl Stewart and you have a solid ball club though

Boone
07-10-2013, 02:27 PM
???

If this is a serious statement, I suggest checking out the stats pages for
E-Town - Individual Stats (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=576&stn=true&sid=t576) (Randy Rosario, Yorman Landa, and Felix Jorge)
and
GCL Twins - Stats (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=474) (Lewis Thorpe)

On top of that, recent draftees Kohl Stewart, Ryan Eades, and Stephen Gonsalves have all just recently made their debuts.


It will be interesting to see how the Twins handle these guys this summer and next spring. Cedar Rapids could potentially have a rotation with Jorge, Rosario, Landa, and Stewart early next year.

nicksaviking
07-10-2013, 02:40 PM
All 10 of those guys should be up by 2016, but after that the next 10 really won't amount to much. Throw in Kohl Stewart and you have a solid ball club though

I actually would be surprised if multiple guys in the 10+ range don't turn out to be servicable ball players. Polanco, Walker, Zack Jones, Baxendale, Tonkin, Wimmers and Pinto would all likely be in consideration for most teams top 10 list.

nicksaviking
07-10-2013, 02:52 PM
???

If this is a serious statement, I suggest checking out the stats pages for
E-Town - Individual Stats (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=576&stn=true&sid=t576) (Randy Rosario, Yorman Landa, and Felix Jorge)
and
GCL Twins - Stats (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=474) (Lewis Thorpe)

On top of that, recent draftees Kohl Stewart, Ryan Eades, and Stephen Gonsalves have all just recently made their debuts.

I'm going to enthusiastically watch these guys as well, but I think it's wise to temper the expectations for the guys in the rookie leagues. Look no further than last year's draft class. There were about 8 pitchers putting up eye-popping K/9 numbers with strong ERA's. Most of them have come back to earth in both departments once they got to full season ball.

To be fair though, the guys you are beating the drum for have all put up pretty decent BB/9 numbers, which even in rookie leagues can often be high despite other impressive numbers. It may be a good indicator that they have positive control and will succeed at higher levels.

beckmt
07-10-2013, 04:24 PM
About 3 or 4 of those players listed above are in the majors or soon will be in the majors. That will give more top 10 room to for some of the players knocking on the door(Pinto for 1).

cmathewson
07-10-2013, 04:55 PM
So what changed within the Twins organization? Why are they having success drafting the last couple of years vs. the failures that they had previously? Those failures has led to the current losing state of the Twins.



They changed draft coordinators from Radcliff to Johnson in 2008. That's when the current wave started with Hicks. More recently, the league changed rules around signing, so we can draft the best player available and not worry about signability. Finally, we built a better DR academy and started spending money there.

JB_Iowa
07-10-2013, 08:39 PM
They changed draft coordinators from Radcliff to Johnson in 2008. That's when the current wave started with Hicks. More recently, the league changed rules around signing, so we can draft the best player available and not worry about signability. Finally, we built a better DR academy and started spending money there.

I'd add another finally: the major league team has been abysmal. Draft position does indeed help especially when it comes to the high end.

cmb0252
07-10-2013, 09:01 PM
I'd add another finally: the major league team has been abysmal. Draft position does indeed help especially when it comes to the high end.

Adding Buxton, J.O., Stewart, and Eades (the forgotten guy) with high picks definitely helps. While you don't need a high pick to get a great player studies have show it significantly helps!