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Seth Stohs
04-09-2012, 11:23 AM
Twins Lineup for their Home Opener:

Denard Span CF
Jamey Carroll SS
Joe Mauer 1B
Justin Morneau DH
Josh Willingham LF
Ryan Doumit C
Danny Valencia 3B
Trevor Plouffe RF
Alexi Casilla 2B

SP: Nick Blackburn

Kirby_Waved_At_Me
04-09-2012, 11:29 AM
Small Sample sizes, but Mauer has been terrible against Angels Starter C.J. Wilson and Willingham has been pretty good. I hope it doesn't take them until the 8th inning this time to start scoring runs.

Boom Boom
04-09-2012, 11:33 AM
Plouffe 3-4 with a HR.

Seth Stohs
04-09-2012, 11:33 AM
Beauty of baseball... 5 runs against Arrieta, Hunter, Hammel...
Assumption is they won't be able to hit Wilson, Weaver and Haren... But you never know... could score 5-6 a game!
Gotta love it!

Kirby_Waved_At_Me
04-09-2012, 11:44 AM
Anything can happen - this is Wilson's first start of the year, new catcher for him, new team playing defense behind him. Gardy's money quote from the MLB.com game preview talks about how the ball comes out of Blackburn's hand better than anyone on the staff this spring. Go Twins!

Thrylos
04-09-2012, 11:58 AM
Let's not forget, that the Royals took 2 out of 3 at the Angels' home. The Twins should at least keep up pace there :)

Shane Wahl
04-09-2012, 12:13 PM
3 out of the top 4 hitters lefties against a very good left-handed pitcher. Morneau should be batting 6th (and generally not playing at all against lefties).

edavis0308
04-09-2012, 01:05 PM
3 out of the top 4 hitters lefties against a very good left-handed pitcher. Morneau should be batting 6th (and generally not playing at all against lefties).

That isnt even close to being true. In 2010, he OPS'ed .950+ against LHP. In 2009, he was close to .850. Obviously throwing 2011 out. If anything, say that he is 2-12 against Wilson (although one of the 2 hits was a HR).

Riverbrian
04-09-2012, 01:28 PM
I would have gone with Mauer behind the plate. Scioscia is aggressive on the bases. I also would have benched Doumit for the game for failing to move Willingham over to 3rd base with no outs in the 8th inning yesterday. Burroughs or Hughes could play 1B against the lefty or DH with Morneau at 1B. His head might survive a game in the field.

Or maybe this is the perfect lineup for today and I'm just gonna sit back and watch it with full faith.

asmus_ndsu
04-09-2012, 02:58 PM
I'm actually excited to see how Blackburn will fair today. I probably have the most confidence in him over anyone else for the start of this year

Highabove
04-09-2012, 02:59 PM
Does anyone know what that Video presentation was about????

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 03:10 PM
I would have gone with Mauer behind the plate. Scioscia is aggressive on the bases. I also would have benched Doumit for the game for failing to move Willingham over to 3rd base with no outs in the 8th inning yesterday. Burroughs or Hughes could play 1B against the lefty or DH with Morneau at 1B. His head might survive a game in the field.

Or maybe this is the perfect lineup for today and I'm just gonna sit back and watch it with full faith.

I actually have been pretty impressed with Doumit's arm. We may be surprised with him throwing out runners this year. The rest of his defense has been about as good as I expected...

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 03:12 PM
Poll Question? Could the members of the 2002 team, retired and all, with Radke pitching beat today's team with Blackburn pitching?

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 03:21 PM
Ominous start by Blackburn

asmus_ndsu
04-09-2012, 03:27 PM
Ugh I think I jinxed him

mikeee
04-09-2012, 03:27 PM
RBI single for Hunter....

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 03:27 PM
Quit walking people!!! Have we walked someone this year, and not seen them come around to score? Just terrible

@_2244
04-09-2012, 03:30 PM
Quit walking people!!! Have we walked someone this year, and not seen them come around to score? Just terrible

Then people will cry about "Pitch to Contact."

mikeee
04-09-2012, 03:31 PM
Double for Abreu to bring in another run.. 2-0.. There they go giving up runs early again!

Highabove
04-09-2012, 03:32 PM
Missing bats is a good way to avoid walks.

@_2244
04-09-2012, 03:38 PM
Missing bats is a good way to avoid walks.

If that is what you expect from Blackburn you haven't been paying much attention.

Highabove
04-09-2012, 03:42 PM
If that is what you expect from Blackburn you haven't been paying much attention.

I was not referring to Blackburn.

Boom Boom
04-09-2012, 03:46 PM
Poll Question? Could the members of the 2002 team, retired and all, with Radke pitching beat today's team with Blackburn pitching? I think David Ortiz would have a monster game.

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 04:29 PM
Another lively game thread here...

DrJubal
04-09-2012, 04:29 PM
How long before Willingham claims the cleanup spot?

Mr. Ed
04-09-2012, 04:29 PM
Sano has 2 HRs for Beloit today

3 hits so far this year.

Slam
3R HR
2R HR

mikeee
04-09-2012, 04:29 PM
Homer #2 for Willingham!

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 04:30 PM
Nice bomb there by Willingham. Target Field and cold weather seem fine with him!

Kirby_Waved_At_Me
04-09-2012, 04:38 PM
nice quick inning from Blackburn - that's good news for him

Harrison Greeley III
04-09-2012, 04:46 PM
What is the score? Yahoo says that Carroll scored on a wild pitch in the 3rd, meaning it's 2-2, but no one else agrees.

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 04:47 PM
What is the score? Yahoo says that Carroll scored on a wild pitch in the 3rd, meaning it's 2-2, but no one else agrees.

Still 2-1 Angels. Carroll GIDP

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 04:49 PM
Serious question. How long before Carroll slides to a utility player, and Doizer is brought up? Carroll's defense has been pretty good, but offensively, he is making Punto look like Prince Fielder.

Harrison Greeley III
04-09-2012, 04:51 PM
I see that. I'm also seeing





Bot 3rd: Minnesota


- J. Carroll scored, J. Mauer to second on wild pitch




on Yahoo's box score page. Must have been wishful scorekeeping.

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 04:53 PM
Casilla had all day to make that throw. Need to know who is running down the line!

Mr. Ed
04-09-2012, 04:58 PM
Serious question. How long before Carroll slides to a utility player, and Doizer is brought up? Carroll's defense has been pretty good, but offensively, he is making Punto look like Prince Fielder.

Why not move Casilla to Futility Infielder. OR waived. He's not hitting OR fielding.

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 05:00 PM
Why not move Casilla to Futility Infielder. OR waived. He's not hitting OR fielding.

Same difference. Either way, their best MIF is playing in Rochester.

Mr. Ed
04-09-2012, 05:04 PM
Same difference. Either way, their best MIF is playing in Rochester.

Absolutely. And he's started out hitting well there, too.

That's enough AAA time for me :)

mike wants wins
04-09-2012, 05:04 PM
Carroll has been on base two times....I would be thrilled with that.

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 05:06 PM
Absolutely. And he's started out hitting well there, too.

That's enough AAA time for me :)

Yeah, the more Dozier hits, the more Gardy has to be frustrated. He clearly has been advocating for Dozier to be up with the club.

(figures as I am writing this, Carroll boots a double play ball)

Harrison Greeley III
04-09-2012, 05:07 PM
Carroll has been on base two times....I would be thrilled with that.

Yep.

Oh... and this is Game 4 of 162.

Kirby_Waved_At_Me
04-09-2012, 05:12 PM
You know, for as rough as this stretch has been the starting pitching today and yesterday has been pretty good. Even Pavano kept things relatively close. The defense and the absent offense has really made these first handful of games hard to watch.

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 05:21 PM
You know, for as rough as this stretch has been the starting pitching today and yesterday has been pretty good. Even Pavano kept things relatively close. The defense and the absent offense has really made these first handful of games hard to watch.

Starting pitching has been Ok, ERA aside. Defense has been terrible, as has the bullpen.

Highabove
04-09-2012, 05:35 PM
Lets look at the bright side. No one in the Twins Organization has pledged their support to Fidel Castro.

Intramural Legend
04-09-2012, 05:48 PM
Lets look at the bright side. No one in the Twins Organization has pledged their support to Fidel Castro.

Ha, is there a Dutch dictator that Bert can pledge allegiance to?

USAFChief
04-09-2012, 05:51 PM
... I also would have benched Doumit for the game for failing to move Willingham over to 3rd base with no outs in the 8th inning yesterday. ...

Count me among fans who hope and pray that:

a) Down 2 in the 8th, Doumit's goal wasn't to move one runner up one base at the expense of an out, and

b) Nobody, and I mean NObody on the Twins, including the manager, was thinking the goal of Doumit's PA was to advance 1 base runner one base, at the expense of an out.

Also, you can count me among the fans who feel that way regardless of what drivel DickBert spew.

mikeee
04-09-2012, 05:55 PM
Capps is coming on!!!!!!!

JB_Iowa
04-09-2012, 05:58 PM
Lets look at the bright side. No one in the Twins Organization has pledged their support to Fidel Castro.

Bright side 2: Tomorrow is an off-day.

Highabove
04-09-2012, 06:02 PM
Capps will not be a problem this year.

He will pitch as he did in 2010.

If he gets a chance to save a game

shs_59
04-09-2012, 07:05 PM
well, on the bright side..... A Ball 3B prospect Miguel Sano went 2-3 , with 2 BB's and 2 HRS !!!

he now has 3 hits and 3 Hr's to start the year, tallying 9 RBI's. !!!

YAE

Bark's Lounge
04-09-2012, 07:14 PM
I figured this would be a tough season to watch, but the lack of offense by the Twins makes their games unwatchable. I cannot imagine anyone thought the pitching would be very good this year, although I thought the defense would be better... not looking good. Off of the subject - Unbalanced Ballparks are awful, whether it be band boxes or expansive ballparks that drop a pitchers ERA by 2 runs. Target Field is a Smoking Hot Woman/Man with a very unattractive and intolerable personality. Usually a ball club will build their park around their star players. The Twins on the other hand built Target Field to Handcuff them and render their strengths unusable.

MileHighTwinsFan
04-09-2012, 07:36 PM
Bottom of the 6th, Twins down 2-1. Mauer, Morneau, Willingham due up. 3 up, 3 down. Top of the 7th, Angels score 3 to ice it. Blackburn did all he could to keep us in this one and the big bats did not deliver when it counted. Meanwhile Wilson steps up his game to records the big outs. There, in a nutshell, is the difference between a winning team and losing one. Big bats are going to have to find a way when their starter gives them 6 solid innings.

Kirby_Waved_At_Me
04-10-2012, 09:36 AM
Good news, everyone! The Twins can't possibly lose another game today. Tomorrow is harder to call, but enjoy the day free of frustration and gnashing of teeth!