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Nick Nelson
06-09-2013, 11:57 PM
You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.com/content.php?r=1868-Prospects-on-the-Move

Zephrin
06-10-2013, 12:09 AM
Obviously Morales moving up leaves a gaping hole in A+ for Buxton :)

I don't feel like the AA 1Bs would be holding back Vargas - surprised he didn't move up with the rest of the crew.

Finally, how about Josamil Pinto to AAA? (With a corresponding removal of Drew Butera from the 40-man. I know, too much to ask.)

Seth Stohs
06-10-2013, 12:20 AM
Buxton will move up the day or day after Cedar Rapids clinches a playoff spot (or 1st place in the division).

Jeremy and I were talking about Vargas as well. Vargas could play in the All Star game and then move up to New Britain At that time, Dalton Hicks could move up to Ft. Myers. In that case, the Twins could move Rory Rhodes up to Cedar Rapids. Rhodes has already played in the rookie years the past four years which means he can't play for Elizabethton (or GCL) again in 2013. He could move up at that time.

Butera won't (and shouldn't) be DFAd at this time, and Pinto can stay in AA. Maybe later in the season. But Butera has value and once he's had some time to show his health, the Twins might be able to trade him. His glove/arm means the Twins could get something for him.

maxisagod
06-10-2013, 12:37 AM
I don't feel like the AA 1Bs would be holding back Vargas - surprised he didn't move up with the rest of the crew.

Might be waiting for Michael Gonzales to come off the DL, they don't want to leave the Miracles without enough players to field a team. ;) Also Vargas only had a 1/2 a season in Low A last year, Twins would be moving him quickly if he only got a 1/2 a season in High A too.

johnnydakota
06-10-2013, 12:39 AM
Buxton will move up the day or day after Cedar Rapids clinches a playoff spot (or 1st place in the division).

Jeremy and I were talking about Vargas as well. Vargas could play in the All Star game and then move up to New Britain At that time, Dalton Hicks could move up to Ft. Myers. In that case, the Twins could move Rory Rhodes up to Cedar Rapids. Rhodes has already played in the rookie years the past four years which means he can't play for Elizabethton (or GCL) again in 2013. He could move up at that time.

Butera won't (and shouldn't) be DFAd at this time, and Pinto can stay in AA. Maybe later in the season. But Butera has value and once he's had some time to show his health, the Twins might be able to trade him. His glove/arm means the Twins could get something for him.

A near 30 year old non hitting catcher would only have value on a team that would waste its #3 pick on a Drew clone...better catchers were released this past week...

Rosterman
06-10-2013, 12:42 AM
Plus, Drew is on a $700,000 salary for this year! Another Twins mistake!

righty8383
06-10-2013, 12:49 AM
I'm glad I never gave up on Angel Morales as a prospect. Oh wait, I did give up on him, shame on me! Glad to see he is proving me wrong.

jokin
06-10-2013, 01:16 AM
What a difference a weak week makes.

Nick Nelson on 6-9-13:


The Twins dropped two of three in Washington over the weekend, widening their deficit in the AL Central to 7.5 games. For the big-league club, things are looking rather grim.

Nick Nelson on 6-2-13:


Still, compared to the last two seasons, the positives in this campaign have been almost overwhelming.

tjsyam921
06-10-2013, 06:45 AM
Will there be other moves? They move 3 players to New Britain and only one to Rochester.

Don't Feed the Greed Guy
06-10-2013, 07:24 AM
The old adage is that a baseball season can be broken into three columns. All teams win one third of their games--even the lousy teams. All teams lose one third of their games--even the best teams. It is the other third that makes the difference. The series with Washington is a perfect example. Minnesota wins game one on the strength of their bullpen and a hot backup catcher/dh. The Nats blow out the Twins in game two. Then in that all-important third game, our Twinkies lose game three by one run, as the pesky Nats poke away at the Twins lead as a 4-1 lead slowly goes "pear-shaped" 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, to a 5-4 final. Can the prospects coming up, if they raise production at 2nd base (Rosario vs. Dozier), 3rd base (Sano vs. Escobar/Plouffe/Carroll), and center field (Can we already say Buxton vs. Hicks?) raise the Twins production to the point where they win two out of three?

mike wants wins
06-10-2013, 08:00 AM
How'd the Single A all star game go for those guys? I missed it somehow.

edit: nm, I see in the other thread the break is now. I thought somehow I'd missed something.....

JB_Iowa
06-10-2013, 08:06 AM
It's good to see the upward movement. At this point, the best thing we can hope for as Twins fans is that the prospects make steady progress and are eventually able to translate their minor league success to the major league team. I continue to believe that a managerial change would be beneficial before the prospects hit the majors.

Nick Nelson
06-10-2013, 09:26 AM
What a difference a weak week makes.

My outlook hasn't changed. The Twins' chances of competing this year look grim (as has always been the case) but there are plenty of long-term positives to be found throughout the organization. It's really just about the big picture vs. the here and now.

Nick Nelson
06-10-2013, 09:35 AM
One interesting aspect of this move that I didn't touch on is that Sano and Rosario are both guys who entered the season with major question marks about their ability to stick where they're at defensively. The fact that both have been promoted so aggressively is a sign that either A) the Twins view their progress in the field very favorably, or B) the Twins are high enough on them that they want to keep pushing them while putting defense on the backburner a little bit, which would be uncharacteristic for them.

Either way, it's nice to see.

mike wants wins
06-10-2013, 09:37 AM
My outlook hasn't changed. The Twins' chances of competing this year look grim (as has always been the case) but there are plenty of long-term positives to be found throughout the organization. It's really just about the big picture vs. the here and now.


What are the positives at the MLB level? I am struggling, personally, to see them right now. I can't think of 1 young player that I view as a long term contributor (relief pitchers excluded).

Steve Lein
06-10-2013, 09:49 AM
^ I like how people constantly ignore sentences providing context, such as "Still, compared to the last two seasons, ... " when they attempt go after you, Nick. q; )

Nick Nelson
06-10-2013, 10:00 AM
^ I like how people constantly ignore sentences providing context, such as "Still, compared to the last two seasons, ... " when they attempt go after you, Nick. q; )

Right, everything is relative... people must realize that this season can be filled with plight and still a vast improvement over the last two.

Badsmerf
06-10-2013, 10:08 AM
Kepler! This might open a spot for Harrison in Ft. Meyers too. Man, the Twins could be extremely young and good in 5 years. I'm just hoping all the prospects continue to take steps forward. The Twins have to be satisfied with the production of their prospects so far this season.

mike wants wins
06-10-2013, 10:20 AM
I didn't "go after him"....he said "throughout the organization", and I just want to have help understanding what is good at the MLB level. Nothing more sinister than that. No "digs". No nothing other than I'm trying to find hope at the MLB level. Actually looking for someone to offer some positives so I can see them, and not just see the negatives.

What has improved over the last two, that's what I'm trying to understand. The hitting and pitching and fielding are worse, by WAR measurements (and their components) for everyone but the relief pitchers. So, I'm looking for some bright spots, and I am struggling to see them. If Nick, or you, have ideas of what they are, I'm all eyes.

boylan
06-10-2013, 10:26 AM
Will there be other moves? They move 3 players to New Britain and only one to Rochester.

Yeah, I wonder about that two. Did they release two kids to free up roster spots?

YourHouseIsMyHouse
06-10-2013, 10:26 AM
At the moment, I've got a few names I'd like to see promoted. Some might be a little unlikely, but as far as performance goes, these players have all been solid.
AAA Kyle Gibson
AAA Andrew Albers
AA Josmil Pinto
AA Logan Darnell
A+ Kennys Vargas
A+ Matt Koch
A+ Zach Jones
A Byron Buxton
A Dalton Hicks
A Steven Gruver
Rk Angel Mata

Thegrin
06-10-2013, 10:29 AM
AAA Kyle Gibson
AAA Andrew Albers
who do you drop ?

DAM DC Twins Fans
06-10-2013, 10:39 AM
What are the positives at the MLB level? I am struggling, personally, to see them right now. I can't think of 1 young player that I view as a long term contributor (relief pitchers excluded).

Living in DC area don't get much of a chance to see the Twins (and last couple of seasons only trip to Balmer is in April)--so I saw them live yesterday--get much different perspective. I was very disappointed in infielders--none seem to have range (though Florimon made a couple of nice plays after the game was decided--not when game was in balance). And Dozier should have gotten error that lead to all the runs--it was not a hit.

The good news--I was impressed by Hicks (good range, nice arm) looks like batting is getting better. I like Parmalee--great arm--pretty good defense. I don't know if his future is at 1B (depends on Sano being able to play 3rd) or RF but he is a solid player. So that is two long-term contributors.

mike wants wins
06-10-2013, 10:43 AM
Thanks, ya, even on the radio they said that Dozier play (and others, and the previous day) were really errors/bad defense.

Good to hear on Hicks, it is so hard to tell on the radio what the range really is. I would really like Parmalee to play every day, so the Twins can get a better feel for his offense. That's the key to me for him.

Steve Lein
06-10-2013, 10:47 AM
If Nick, or you, have ideas of what they are, I'm all eyes.

By my eyes, this team hasn't looked worse. I certainly remember a lot more putrid baseball being played last year... At least they have a competent defensive middle-infield (yesterday's gaffes notwithstanding).

But you're right in a lot of ways, too. The pitching is certainly frightful, and unfortunately the one guy they were counting on, Scott Diamond, has always struck me as a lefty Nick Blackburn, and has been performing as such of late.

YourHouseIsMyHouse
06-10-2013, 11:13 AM
AAA Kyle Gibson
AAA Andrew Albers
who do you drop ?

Scott Diamond and Mike Pelfrey

Mr. Ed
06-10-2013, 12:05 PM
Kvasnicka activated,Bryan Haar added to FTM roster.

Florida State League Transactions | Fort Myers Miracle Stats (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=l_trn&lid=123&sid=t509)

TwinsFanInPhilly
06-10-2013, 12:14 PM
Player
DOB
Days diff


Miguel Sano
5/11/1993



Eddie Rosario
9/28/1991
591


DJ Baxendale
12/8/1990
885


Danny Santana
11/7/1990
916


Daniel Ortiz
1/5/1990
1222


Alex Meyer
1/3/1990
1224




Sano is clearly the youngest player at NB right now. Listed above are the 6 youngest. Meyer is about 3.3 years older than Sano. I assume many of the other AA teams have similar age distributions. Morales is the 8th youngest, FWIW.

jun
06-10-2013, 12:20 PM
AAA Kyle Gibson
AAA Andrew Albers
who do you drop ?

Pelfrey and Diamond

Don't Feed the Greed Guy
06-10-2013, 12:24 PM
Scott Diamond and Mike Pelfrey

Not Diamond, or Correia. I could see Correia gone by the trade deadline, if he keeps performing as a 3rd or 4th starter should. Maybe Pelfrey--like Worley. Let's see how Walters and Deduno play out over the next few weeks. Then, bring up Gibbie and/or Albers and send one or both down. Also, can't we shelve Pelfrey if he "agrees" that, "Well.., gee whiz, the Tommy John thing isn't working... Nudge, nudge. Maybe you should shut it down and go on the 60 day DL, Pelf????" Get the hint? ;)

jokin
06-10-2013, 12:24 PM
Right, everything is relative... people must realize that this season can be filled with plight and still a vast improvement over the last two.

Vast improvement? It's hard to see- and it didn't have to be...

BTW...the Twins record this year is 27-33 after 60 games. Last year at the same point? 25- 35.

How about the Hitting? Worse. Defense. In the OF, clearly worse, in the IF, close to last year. Starting Pitching? The same old, awful, same old.

jokin
06-10-2013, 12:32 PM
^ I like how people constantly ignore sentences providing context, such as "Still, compared to the last two seasons, ... " when they attempt go after you, Nick. q; )

No one is going after anyone- as far as I can tell. It's just that the actual, factual context simply doesn't suggest that compared to the last 2 seasons that much has changed for the better, except perhaps, less injuries, but even in that context, the season has yet to fully play out.

jimbo92107
06-10-2013, 01:22 PM
At the moment, I've got a few names I'd like to see promoted. Some might be a little unlikely, but as far as performance goes, these players have all been solid.
AAA Kyle Gibson
AAA Andrew Albers
AA Josmil Pinto
AA Logan Darnell
A+ Kennys Vargas
A+ Matt Koch
A+ Zach Jones
A Byron Buxton
A Dalton Hicks
A Steven Gruver
Rk Angel Mata

You wouldn't promote DJ Baxendale?

mike wants wins
06-10-2013, 01:24 PM
You wouldn't promote DJ Baxendale?

Baxendale was already moved to AA, unless I'm confused by this work meeting I'm almost listening to.....

Zephrin
06-10-2013, 01:25 PM
And Dozier should have gotten error that lead to all the runs--it was not a hit.

I agree that Dozier should have had an error, but the play (or two?) before that Diamond failed to cover his position on a possible DP. They got one so it wasn't an error, but the Dozier play never happens if he covers 1st properly.

Otwins
06-10-2013, 01:32 PM
Yeah, I wonder about that two. Did they release two kids to free up roster spots?

Alex Meyer went to the DL at AA

I am not sure who they brought to AA when they lost Robertson and they called up Tonkin from AA - I am guessing that might be the other spot

howieramone
06-10-2013, 01:34 PM
Vast improvement? It's hard to see- and it didn't have to be...

BTW...the Twins record this year is 27-33 after 60 games. Last year at the same point? 25- 35.

How about the Hitting? Worse. Defense. In the OF, clearly worse, in the IF, close to last year. Starting Pitching? The same old, awful, same old.I agree. I find Nick Nelson's positive and insightful articles demeaning. If he truly wanted to report on the heartbeat of Twins fans, he should review the comments section of the Strib.

jokin
06-10-2013, 01:39 PM
I agree. I find Nick Nelson's positive and insightful articles demeaning. If he truly wanted to report on the heartbeat of Twins fans, he should review the comments section of the Strib.

So... sarcastic condescension is your response? Yeah, don't let simple facts get in the way of a well-spun straw-grasping meme.
Got it.

Nick Nelson
06-10-2013, 01:44 PM
What has improved over the last two, that's what I'm trying to understand. The hitting and pitching and fielding are worse, by WAR measurements (and their components) for everyone but the relief pitchers. So, I'm looking for some bright spots, and I am struggling to see them. If Nick, or you, have ideas of what they are, I'm all eyes.
Well, as I pointed out in the thread jokin linked to, the Twins have been plagued by far fewer injuries and on-field gaffes this season. They didn't dig an inescapable hole in the first four weeks. Their bullpen has been very good, with Glen Perkins continuing to cement himself among baseball's elite relievers. Joe Mauer is having one of his best seasons. Chris Parmelee and Aaron Hicks are both looking much better after slow starts. Oswaldo Arcia showed some great signs during his stint and will surely be back soon. Pedro Florimon actually looks like he might be a decent stopgap, which I never would have expected.

As far as the Twins' team record and team rankings in WAR, I don't really care a whole lot about that. I have no illusions about this team contending in 2013 so when I'm talking about positives, I'm looking more on an individual level as it relates to the organization's future.

Shane Wahl
06-10-2013, 01:47 PM
At the moment, I've got a few names I'd like to see promoted. Some might be a little unlikely, but as far as performance goes, these players have all been solid.
AAA Kyle Gibson
AAA Andrew Albers
AA Josmil Pinto
AA Logan Darnell
A+ Kennys Vargas
A+ Matt Koch
A+ Zach Jones
A Byron Buxton
A Dalton Hicks
A Steven Gruver
Rk Angel Mata

I would add Adam Walker, JD Williams and Danny Ortiz as well. Probably some OF clearing at Fort Myers or when Ray and Roberts come back they just move to NB.

jokin
06-10-2013, 03:44 PM
Well, as I pointed out in the thread jokin linked to, the Twins have been plagued by far fewer injuries and on-field gaffes this season. They didn't dig an inescapable hole in the first four weeks. Their bullpen has been very good, with Glen Perkins continuing to cement himself among baseball's elite relievers. Joe Mauer is having one of his best seasons. Chris Parmelee and Aaron Hicks are both looking much better after slow starts. Oswaldo Arcia showed some great signs during his stint and will surely be back soon. Pedro Florimon actually looks like he might be a decent stopgap, which I never would have expected.

As far as the Twins' team record and team rankings in WAR, I don't really care a whole lot about that. I have no illusions about this team contending in 2013 so when I'm talking about positives, I'm looking more on an individual level as it relates to the organization's future.

The individual positives have made the team easier to watch, for sure. I just wish they had made a better effort to bolster the areas of weakness in the offseason (what the 3 acquisitons there are as SPs have proven to produce exactly what was expected- a collective ERA over 6.00, one already demoted, another hanging on by a thread- in a word- AWFUL). You are correct, there are enough positives already and more than enough payroll room to have played for this season to make a run, as well as preparing for the future. Very frustrating.

mudcat14
06-10-2013, 04:16 PM
One interesting aspect of this move that I didn't touch on is that Sano and Rosario are both guys who entered the season with major question marks about their ability to stick where they're at defensively. The fact that both have been promoted so aggressively is a sign that either A) the Twins view their progress in the field very favorably, or B) the Twins are high enough on them that they want to keep pushing them while putting defense on the backburner a little bit, which would be uncharacteristic for them.

Either way, it's nice to see.

Or C) The defense is still a work in progress, but is neither more difficult to teach or learn at the AA level than at the High A level. Not even sure if the fields are any nicer at the higher level. Presumably, the guys they will be defending with are a tick above the ones at Ft. Myers, but even that isn't a given. Bottom line, the defensive aspects of their development are only minimally affected by what level they play at. Let's just hope they get it down once they hit Target Field.

Kwak
06-10-2013, 04:27 PM
The individual positives have made the team easier to watch, for sure. I just wish they had made a better effort to bolster the areas of weakness in the offseason (what the 3 acquisitons there are as SPs have proven to produce exactly what was expected- a collective ERA over 6.00, one already demoted, another hanging on by a thread- in a word- AWFUL). You are correct, there are enough positives already and more than enough payroll room to have played for this season to make a run, as well as preparing for the future. Very frustrating.

Ryan had this belief that he could obtain "adequate" pitching for "average" salaries--"attack the strikezone with medium speed sinlers and sliders". He was wrong. I think he also thought this team would "hit better"--also wrong.

I watched the Kernals game today on TV. TK was in the FSN studio and made the comment stating his preference for guys "who work harder, but with 'lesser' tools" than those guys who are physically better, but "don't work as hard". OK, everybody has a preference. But my take on the past two drafts is that the Twins are targeting the higher skill player--hoping that he will also have the "proper work ethic". Selecting early in the draft does make that task easier. TK also made the comment (7th inning) with 2 on, no out, "time to remove [Melotakis]". Perhaps that would be a savvy decision for a major league team, but I completely support Manager Mauer's decision to see if the pitcher [Melotakis] could "fix his own mess", testing his character and skills. Success! 6-4-3 DP!
Methinks there is a changing of the guard in Twinsville, but we haven't seen much of it at the Twins' level (Gardenhire is still the manager). To me, they are targeting more "power arms" and "power bats" than before 2012. But IMO, this team will continue to [frustrate] for a few more years--maybe enough to continue to select early and acquire a couple more top players.

jorgenswest
06-10-2013, 06:47 PM
It really has been an encouraging year for prospects. Nearly all of the better prospects entering this year have performed well. That never happens. Hopefully the Meyer injury is a minor one.

I don't have season tickets or live locally so I don't share he frustration of the major league failures. Investing in MLB at bat is a minimal cost compare to going to several games. So for me, the progress of the young players and looking forward to their arrival is critical to my view of a successful season for the organization.

Based on that measure, the season is very encouraging. Two years ago at this time, the Twins only prospects were a long way from the majors and they had a system ranked in the bottom 10. Today they have several prospects getting close and a top five system. Ryan deserves some credit for the turn around.

RodneyKline
06-10-2013, 07:58 PM
Really? I say it is pretty much three horrible teams in a row. Terrible job by Terry Ryan! I will give him credit for Correia being better than I thought he would be but all other decisions were bad ones so far.


Right, everything is relative... people must realize that this season can be filled with plight and still a vast improvement over the last two.

RodneyKline
06-10-2013, 08:08 PM
I really hope you are right but I see Parmalee getting put on waivers next year and Hicks getting replaced by Buxton. Florimon is the only nice surprise of the young kids.

I hope this puts things into perspective for everyone who has projected all the minor leaguers as future major league stars. Parmalee lit up the minors! Buxton is the one guy that I am very confident with for some reason. Sano scares me for some reason but he could be good. The guy TR traded Span for is all hype and will not amount to much in my opinion. The Revere trade was better. Just my $.02


Living in DC area don't get much of a chance to see the Twins (and last couple of seasons only trip to Balmer is in April)--so I saw them live yesterday--get much different perspective. I was very disappointed in infielders--none seem to have range (though Florimon made a couple of nice plays after the game was decided--not when game was in balance). And Dozier should have gotten error that lead to all the runs--it was not a hit.

The good news--I was impressed by Hicks (good range, nice arm) looks like batting is getting better. I like Parmalee--great arm--pretty good defense. I don't know if his future is at 1B (depends on Sano being able to play 3rd) or RF but he is a solid player. So that is two long-term contributors.

SD Buhr
06-10-2013, 08:10 PM
TK also made the comment (7th inning) with 2 on, no out, "time to remove [Melotakis]". Perhaps that would be a savvy decision for a major league team, but I completely support Manager Mauer's decision to see if the pitcher [Melotakis] could "fix his own mess", testing his character and skills. Success! 6-4-3 DP!

What Kelly also was likely not aware of is that Mauer's Kernels had gone several straight games where the starting pitcher had not survived even the 5th inning and they desperately needed to give some of the more reliable bullpen arms a day off before the final 6 games of the first half. Melotakis is developing in to the 'stopper' of the rotation at this point.

nicksaviking
06-10-2013, 08:53 PM
I watched the Kernals game today on TV. TK was in the FSN studio and made the comment stating his preference for guys "who work harder, but with 'lesser' tools" than those guys who are physically better, but "don't work as hard".

Yeah, I love TK but this seems to be a common idea in the organization. The implication of course is that talented players don't have work as hard. What a crock, it doesn't mean they don't. It's all simply just Rocky mentality, we cheer for the less talented underdog and when they prevail we have to assume they outworked the percieved better athlete. Ivan Drago worked his tail off too.


TK also made the comment (7th inning) with 2 on, no out, "time to remove [Melotakis]". Perhaps that would be a savvy decision for a major league team, but I completely support Manager Mauer's decision to see if the pitcher [Melotakis] could "fix his own mess", testing his character and skills. Success! 6-4-3 DP!


So Gardy should be managing in the Midwest League instead?

Kwak
06-10-2013, 09:33 PM
So Gardy should be managing in the Midwest League instead?

TK = Tom Kelly, not Gardenhire.

KernelsGuy1
06-10-2013, 09:37 PM
I really hope you are right but I see Parmalee getting put on waivers next year and Hicks getting replaced by Buxton. Florimon is the only nice surprise of the young kids.

I hope this puts things into perspective for everyone who has projected all the minor leaguers as future major league stars. Parmalee lit up the minors! Buxton is the one guy that I am very confident with for some reason. Sano scares me for some reason but he could be good. The guy TR traded Span for is all hype and will not amount to much in my opinion. The Revere trade was better. Just my $.02

I love Buxton and it would be incredible to see him on the Twins in 2014 (even in September), but do you realize how big of a difference it is between Single-A and the majors? Incomprehensible.

The amount of video alone available in the majors puts it scores and scores ahead of Triple-A, let alone Single-A. And that's after a lot of baseball scouts recently have said there are huge differences between AAA and the majors as of late.

Kwak
06-10-2013, 09:55 PM
My thee are the Parmalee haters! Right now Parmalee's got a tighter grasp on a major league job that Hicks and Arcia. Willinghame is more likely to be moved than Parmalee.
So, I strongly disagree that Parmalee will be waved next year.

orangevening
06-10-2013, 11:18 PM
I really hope you are right but I see Parmalee getting put on waivers next year and Hicks getting replaced by Buxton. Florimon is the only nice surprise of the young kids.

I hope this puts things into perspective for everyone who has projected all the minor leaguers as future major league stars. Parmalee lit up the minors! Buxton is the one guy that I am very confident with for some reason. Sano scares me for some reason but he could be good. The guy TR traded Span for is all hype and will not amount to much in my opinion. The Revere trade was better. Just my $.02

Umm...no. No reason at all to put Parmalee on waivers. Even if he bombs rest of year the Morenau (sp) situation makes him worth keeping. No way Buxton moves up that fast even if he continues to kill it and they are not going to give up on Hicks after one season. Florimon isn't all that (relatively) young.

Meyer (the guy that TR traded Span for) is doing better than May and Worley (Revere trade) so I don't see how you can say that was a better trade (at least right now).

Shane Wahl
06-10-2013, 11:54 PM
I really hope you are right but I see Parmalee getting put on waivers next year and Hicks getting replaced by Buxton. Florimon is the only nice surprise of the young kids.

I hope this puts things into perspective for everyone who has projected all the minor leaguers as future major league stars. Parmalee lit up the minors! Buxton is the one guy that I am very confident with for some reason. Sano scares me for some reason but he could be good. The guy TR traded Span for is all hype and will not amount to much in my opinion. The Revere trade was better. Just my $.02

A: Parmelee is not going to be waived. He will be around next year unless some strange trade happens involving him before then.

B: Hicks is not going to be replaced by Buxton next year. And Hicks isn't going to replaced at all unless you mean to RF.

C: Florimon isn't that young. Not that huge of a surprise either--I never thought he would be terrible.

D: Parmelee did not light up the minors. He had a great few months at AAA last year. That's it.

E: Sano will be a star in the majors.

F: Alex Meyer is a good pitcher right now and has been good in the majority of his starts. He projects to be a 3-type starter at minimum.

G: Worley has been horrible and May has been good. That doesn't make that trade better.