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Fire Dan Gladden
03-29-2012, 02:47 PM
Jim Bowden recently posted an article at ESPN with his bold predictions for 2012. Among them was that he thought the Twins would trade Justin Morneau. I quite frankly do not see any scenerio in which that would happen (if he is healthy and performing, they need him to compete and could not get equal value in return. If he is hurt, nobody would touch him). But it does create an interesting discussion topic. Here are my bold predictions for the year:

- Scott Baker will make less than 10 starts for the Twins, but they will pick up his option for 2013.
- Matt Capps will save less than 10 games for the Twins.
- Joe Mauer will catch over 135 games and bat .330.
- In spite of an inconsistent rotation and subpar defense, this team will win at least 81 games.

Let's hear what you all think.

Gernzy
03-29-2012, 02:50 PM
I think Capps will get more then 10 saves, besides that looks pretty good.

Mine: Morneau hits 40+ HR

powrwrap
03-29-2012, 04:14 PM
Liriano will be an All Star pick.

SweetOne69
03-29-2012, 04:28 PM
I can see a scenario where Morneau gets traded this year. If he is healthy and producing he instantly becomes one of the highest value players on the roster. With Parmelee ready to take over @ 1B, Morneau becomes tradeable. We need starting pitching for next year (Blackburn the only one under contract for 2013), and Morneau would be more than a 6th month rental and his $14M salary for 2013 is very reasonable for his production when healthy.

luckylager
03-29-2012, 04:28 PM
Much improved bullpen, team defense and a healthy middle of the batting order. Twins in a battle for 2nd place with KC. Tigers run away with the divison. A much more competitive and entertaining season than last year.

Bark's Lounge
03-29-2012, 04:43 PM
Here is a few predictions...

~ Plouffe will surprise some with around 20HR's. Hitting between .250 -.265, while being an effective utility guy jumping between the IF & OF
~ Morneau wins comeback player of the year hitting Upper 20 HR's while batting close to .300
~ Mauer has comparable year to 07, 08 & 10 Season
~ Liriano wins 15 games (11 as a Twin)

gunnarthor
03-29-2012, 04:52 PM
Mauer and Morneau both stay off the DL the entire year.
Twins take shortstop Merrero (sp) #2 overall and this site explodes

Nicholas Mueller
03-29-2012, 04:58 PM
Twins win the World Series.. More realistically though, Parmelee preforms well, and Pavano gets traded.

Highabove
03-29-2012, 05:00 PM
Gardenhire will be thrown out of a Game. What's the over under on this one?

spideyo
03-29-2012, 05:02 PM
Much improved, but fighting for second place in July. Revere, Span, Liriano and Hughes have a big first half, and Nishioka and Liam Hendriks tear up AAA. Liriano gets traded for a RF veteran, Span gets traded for a power arm prospect. Plouffe hits big, but can't field well enough to start, and is traded with Butera and a AAA pitcher for a young, fast, high-defense SS. Carroll gets hurt, Nishi gets brought up, Hendricks replaces Liriano in the lineup.

By August, our regular starting lineup is C-Mauer, 1B- Parmalee/Hughes Platoon, 2B Nishi, SS New Guy, 3B Valencia, RF New Guy, CF Revere, LF Willingham, DH Morneau, bench: Casilla, Doumit, Tosoni, Burroughs.

silverslugger
03-29-2012, 06:16 PM
The entire team stays healthy throughout the first half. Terry Ryan becomes so frustrated with the fact that he has nothing to say to the media that he decides to trade Denard Span. Twins Territory goes into meltdown because Span, a 2012 all star, is traded for a closer because Matt Capps blows multiple save opportunities and Glenn Perkins is relegated to mopup duty after eating so many twinkies (hey, he's got to find ways to spend all that money) that he gains 50 pounds and loses form on his delivery.

Danny Valencia, our other 2012 all star, becomes officially adopted by Gardenhire and the new official poster boy for, "we just play the game the right way".

Finally, Liriano's first half is SO good and the team has SO much $$$ going forward with other contracts coming off the books that the Twins sign him to a 5 year extension for$80 million.

kirbyelway
03-29-2012, 07:16 PM
I predict Casilla will take over SS and have a big year. He will no longer be Gardenhires whipping boy.

SDsteve
03-29-2012, 08:17 PM
I those calls, does Dozier stay up and establish himself?

spideyo
03-29-2012, 08:40 PM
I'm betting we don't see Dozier at the major league level until September. If the Twins are sucking and Carroll and Casilla go down, it makes more sense to bring Nishi or one of the other "AAAA" guys up, rather than start Dozier's service time on a bottom dwelling team. If they are hot and Carroll and Casilla go down, it would make more sense to swing a trade and bring a solid defender like Punto to plug the gap, rather than trust a rookie with no big league experience to hold down such a critical position.

Basically, I think it hinges on the idea that a hot young kid at SS isn't going to win us many of games by himself, but an overwhelmed rookie who isn't quite ready for The Show could easily lose us a number of games at SS.

ltwedt
03-29-2012, 08:56 PM
OK - I'll play - Here's mine:

- Morneau appears in less than 30 games,
- Twins win 80 games,
- Nishi "disappears" and is never again seen in the bigs,
- Perkins start his role as closer in mid May,
- Mauer hits 27 homers, - all of them in the 2012 season!
- Gardy is sidelined by a health issue

Billy Bremner
03-29-2012, 09:00 PM
Mike Scoscia and three Angels players are fined by MLB for falling over laughing at the Twins' opening weekend celebration of the 10-year anniversary of a postseason berth.

spideyo
03-29-2012, 09:01 PM
Oh, one more. Gardy pulls what's left of his hair out by mid-June

Seth Stohs
03-29-2012, 09:13 PM
Gardenhire will be thrown out of a Game. What's the over under on this one?

I'll put the Over/Under at 4.5. I'll take the under.

Seth Stohs
03-29-2012, 09:16 PM
Matt Capps will record 35 or more saves.

Billy Bremner
03-29-2012, 09:25 PM
30 or more bloggers here will predict Matt Capps will record 30 or more saves.

Ultima Ratio
03-29-2012, 09:50 PM
-Morneau hits for the cycle
-Span hits.325 and is an All-star
-Perkins converts more saves than Joe Nathan

lecroy24fan
03-29-2012, 09:56 PM
Parmelee wins AL ROY.
Perkins sets the MLB record for holds in a season.
Capps gets 40+ saves.
Valencia becomes a 20 HR, 100 RBI hitter.
4 players surpass 20 HR's (Morneau, Valencia, Willingham, Parmelee)
Gardy loses the rest of his hair because he misses Ozzie.

Bark's Lounge
03-29-2012, 10:04 PM
Gardy is walking down some street in Ft. Myers this spring. Suddenly there is a flash! From nowhere appears a DeLorean and Dr. Emmitt Brown emerges from this vehicle (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=8wS&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=X&ei=4x11T5OkO8H8ggebp5z3Dg&ved=0CCcQvwUoAQ&q=delorean&spell=1). Dr. Brown shouts, "Gardy! We have to fix the future, come with me!" Gardy being the age of 27/28 at the time of the release of the movie "Back to the Future" feels a little nostalgic and agrees, not knowing what he is getting into. Dr. Brown and Gardy get into the DeLorean and travel back to 1982, where Dr, Brown instigates the kidnapping or coercion of talking the 24/25 year old Gardenhire into coming to the future. Dr. Brown, Old Gardy and Young Gardy get back to present day Ft. Myers and Old Gardy immediately installs Young Gardy as his starting Shortstop. Old Gardy then convinces Terry Ryan to trade Aaron Hicks for Nick Punto and Punto is installed as our starting 3rd baseman. Danny Valencia is shocked, but is convinced by Emmitt Brown, that as a 3rd baseman he would be an offensive and defensive baseball star in the 1910's and he will take him there. As Dr. Brown and Danny Valencia are about to leave in the DeLorean, traveling to the 1910's, Dr. Brown has a thought: Hmmm, I wonder if 1992 Jeff Reboulet could help the 2012 Twins... Let's find out!

twinsfiend
03-29-2012, 10:18 PM
86 wins -- Mauer wins another batting title and belts 22 HRs 105 RBI (All-Star)
Mourneau plays well but only plays about 100 games 70 or so as DH... 25 HRs .277 BA
Liriano (All-star) wins 18 games 3.35 ERA -- flip side Baker pitches little and his option is NOT picked up.
Big breakout for Parmalee at 1B (15 HRs and 75 RBI) and everyone is talking about Morneau's future with Twins by end of season.
Middle Infield and Starting Pitching continue to be Achillies heal (Dozier is given a shot but doesn't play that well)

Bark's Lounge
03-29-2012, 10:32 PM
86 wins -- Mauer wins another batting title and belts 22 HRs 105 RBI (All-Star)
Mourneau plays well but only plays about 100 games 70 or so as DH... 25 HRs .277 BA
Liriano (All-star) wins 18 games 3.35 ERA -- flip side Baker pitches little and his option is NOT picked up.
Big breakout for Parmalee at 1B (15 HRs and 75 RBI) and everyone is talking about Morneau's future with Twins by end of season.
Middle Infield and Starting Pitching continue to be Achillies heal (Dozier is given a shot but doesn't play that well)

Let's up the ante for Mauer:


Year
Age
Tm
Lg
G
PA
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
SB
CS
BB
SO
BA
OBP
SLG
OPS
OPS+
TB
GDP
HBP
SH






2012

29

MIN

AL

143
606
456
135
185
33
3
37
120
2
4
147
27
.406
.553
.735
1.287
234
335
10
3
0

Highabove
03-29-2012, 10:32 PM
We absolutely do not want to witness this in the regular Season. Our Bullpen going up in smoke!

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/32/29a8f043ef224d3f898bf7949167263c/l.jpg

Steer
03-29-2012, 10:34 PM
I agree with just about everything Itwedt says, particularly with Grady and his health. There could be trouble ahead. I disagree in that I think Morneau will play more than 120 games. One prediction: Luke Hughes will become a starter and hold a position for for 7+ years.

Bark's Lounge
03-29-2012, 10:36 PM
We absolutely do not want to witness this in the regular Season.

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/32/29a8f043ef224d3f898bf7949167263c/l.jpg

True dat. True Dat. True Dat.

mikeee
03-30-2012, 09:34 AM
Drew Butera will make the team and bat over .200

Gernzy
03-30-2012, 09:59 AM
Gardy is walking down some street in Ft. Myers this spring. Suddenly there is a flash! From nowhere appears a DeLorean and Dr. Emmitt Brown emerges from this vehicle. Dr. Brown shouts, "Gardy! We have to fix the future, come with me!" Gardy being the age of 27/28 at the time of the release of the movie "Back to the Future" feels a little nostalgic and agrees, not knowing what he is getting into. Dr. Brown and Gardy get into the DeLorean and travel back to 1982, where Dr, Brown instigates the kidnapping or coercion of talking the 24/25 year old Gardenhire into coming to the future. Dr. Brown, Old Gardy and Young Gardy get back to present day Ft. Myers and Old Gardy immediately installs Young Gardy as his starting Shortstop. Old Gardy then convinces Terry Ryan to trade Aaron Hicks for Nick Punto and Punto is installed as our starting 3rd baseman. Danny Valencia is shocked, but is convinced by Emmitt Brown, that as a 3rd baseman he would be an offensive and defensive baseball star in the 1910's and he will take him there. As Dr. Brown and Danny Valencia are about to leave in the DeLorean, traveling to the 1910's, Dr. Brown has a thought: Hmmm, I wonder if 1992 Jeff Reboulet could help the 2012 Twins... Let's find out!

Umm...What?

powrwrap
03-30-2012, 11:16 AM
Matt Capps will record 35 or more saves.

I'd be surprised if he got 35 save opportunities.

powrwrap
03-30-2012, 11:18 AM
Umm...What?

I think it is a satirical take on Gardy's propensity to be loyal to light-hitting middle infielders that he takes a liking to, starting with himself.

cr9617
03-30-2012, 12:01 PM
Twins win 75 games

-Mauer has a good season, .330, 10-15 HR's
-Morneau is sorta healthy and sorta productive, but not the same player
-Capps is average, saves some games, blows a few
-Liriano has a good start to the season and is traded at the deadline
-Twins Defense is improved from last year, but still poor
-Starting pitching is way below average, and the bullpen is about the same.

woolhouse
03-30-2012, 12:10 PM
Halfway through the 2002 American League Championship 10-Tear anniversary celebration, Doug Mientkovich will interrupt, remind everyone that he won a World Series with the Red Sox in 2003, and leave. Koskie will declare the celebration "stupid" and TC will have to fill the 20 minutes remaining in the celebration before first pitch by dancing to several generic Latin-beats songs that had been queued up for Christian Guzman and Luis Rivas (their old walk-up-to-the-batter's-box songs.)

rogrulz30
03-30-2012, 12:20 PM
I have to add what my bold predictions are.

Luke Hughes will take over for Danny Valencia full time by the end of the year
Trevor Plouffe will be our starting right fielder
Morneau stays healthy and hits 28 HR
Doumit has a breakout year hitting 18 HR, 90 RBI playing more often
Twins win 81 games
Twins trade Liriano at the trade deadline
Mauer is healthy and bats over .330, the surprise will be 15 HR, as he learns to be more of a pull hitter, understands he is going to have to hit more doubles and HR's over walking.

Not sure if those are really bold or not.

dave_dw
03-30-2012, 12:30 PM
- Nick Blackburn posts a sub 3.30 ERA and is the ace of the staff
- Joe Benson posts the highest WAR of all position players in 2012 after winning the everyday job in RF in early June
- Danny Valencia gets traded mid-season after a solid first half of the season
- Jason Marquis gets released or traded by July 1

WJ
03-30-2012, 12:49 PM
Capps would get over 40 saves IF the Twins were in position to win enough games. Hard to get 40+ on a bad team.

Yoshii
03-30-2012, 01:03 PM
Carl Pohlad wins the Mega Millions.


Twins trade Nick Blackburn to the Angels for Albert Pujols.

This happens before the trade deadline.

Fire Dan Gladden
03-31-2012, 03:21 PM
Drew Butera will make the team and bat over .200

Sorry, already busted.

one_eyed_jack
03-31-2012, 03:47 PM
I don't ever remember entering a season as hard to predict as this one. But I'll give it a go.

-Mauer and Capps have big bounceback years and silence a bunch of their critics
-Morneau gets off to a nice start but somehow hits is noggin again and is forced to retire
-The Twins will be much better than expected and hang in a 3-way race with Cleveland and Detroit (who will not be as good as expected) for a lot of the season before tailing off in September and finishing third
-This will be Gardenhire's final year managing the Twins.

-

diehardtwinsfan
03-31-2012, 06:55 PM
Mauer, Morneau, and Liriano all rebound nicely.
Hughes forces his way into the lineup every day.
Capps stomach explodes after attempting a Minneapolis buffet marathon. Perkins replaces him and becomes the new closer and never lets go of the job.

mikeee
04-02-2012, 09:24 AM
drew butera will make the team and bat over .200

down in flames goes this prediction!!! :d

mikeee
04-02-2012, 09:25 AM
Sorry, already busted.

I am kind of happy about that! :cool:

James Richter
04-02-2012, 02:54 PM
Liriano will get Cy Young votes.
The defense gives up 55 or fewer unearned runs.
The Twins will score more runs than they allow.
They will be in position to buy at the trade deadline, but Ryan won't be willing to dip into his surplus of OF in order to bring in the stud SP they need.

itstimetotakeit
04-02-2012, 06:48 PM
casilla will emerge as a legit middle infielder and hit .309
maer will miss over %50 of games this year
revere will be traded at the trade deadline
liriano will be traded as well

striker_86
04-02-2012, 08:52 PM
I'll hit on a few off the wall predictions.

Carroll will hit .275
Perkins will have an era over 4.00
Blackburn will win 15 games

It's The Trees.
04-02-2012, 09:23 PM
someone breaks into target field and plants some spruce trees under the batter's eye to reverse the curse.

tharasix
04-02-2012, 10:30 PM
Mauer posts a .900 OPS
Liriano has a career ending arm injury
Valencia is batting cleanup by the end of the year
The bullpen puts up a combined 2.50 ERA
Marquis wins 12 games
I'll get around to putting up an avatar by the All Star break

Esoteric Ball Guy
04-02-2012, 10:49 PM
-Twins surprise the doubters and are in contention throughout the season
-5 games out in July trade for Grienke and lock him up to a 4 year $72 million deal before the end of the season. I'd think a package of Hicks, Wimmers and a PTBNL would entice the Brewers should they fall out of contention.
-Twins win the 1st wc, but Gardy burns through Grienke and Liriano to secure home field advantage in the one game playoff and Liam Hendricks gets drilled by the Rays and the Twins exit the playoffs.
-Gardy wins MOY

robbie111
04-04-2012, 03:53 PM
-Twins will win 14 games in April
-Morneau will bat over .300
-Swarzak will end up in rotation in May and stick there till the season is done.
-Twins will end up over .500 in regular season series agains't the Yankees, Red Sox and Blue Jays.
-Gardenhire will not finish the season as Twins Manager.
-Parmalee will hit .240 but have over 20 hr's. and close to .500 slugging ave.
-Twins will have 5 players hit 20 hr's or more this season.
-Perkins will end up on the disabled list and miss half of the season.
-Slama will finally stick with the team coming up in June.

twinsfan214
04-04-2012, 04:15 PM
Capps will struggle right away causing Perk to be made closer. Morneau, Plouffe and Hughes all hit 20 at least HRs. Mauer's average stays up over .300 all year. Willingham is a bust. Jamey Carroll goes down with an injury and Brian Dozier is made starting SS. Twins finish 2nd in the Division but don't get a WC spot.

Teflon
04-04-2012, 04:34 PM
Thanks to the new MLB rule change that further emasculates the importance of the division races AND the top wild card spot, the Twins will now be competitive in the only regular season race that has a win or go home significance. - 5th best.

Montecore
04-04-2012, 05:15 PM
Perkins replaces Capps as the closer in May. Morneau, Mauer, and Liriano have very good years. Willingham delivers. Valencia has good year. Overall relief pitching terrible. Casilla has good year. Every other starter except Scott Baker is lousy. Team goes 76-86.

Boom Boom
04-04-2012, 06:59 PM
The Twins will make exactly zero trades before the trade deadline.

diehardtwinsfan
04-04-2012, 07:19 PM
well, this is for bold predictions, soooo......

Twins win the World Series.

lecroy24fan
04-04-2012, 08:50 PM
Mauer hits .350.
Waldrop gets healthy and ends the season at the RH setup man.