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markos
04-16-2013, 06:48 PM
Name: Alex Meyer
Position: SP
Height: 6'9"
Weight: 220
Bats: Right
Throws: Right
High School: Greensburg, IN
College: University of Kentucky

Drafted with the 23rd overall pick by the Washington Nationals in the 2011 Draft.
Acquired by the Twins from the Nationals in exchange for Denard Span on November 29, 2012

More information at Baseball Reference: Alex Meyer Minor League Statistics & History - Baseball-Reference.com (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=meyer-001ale)

Meyer signed too late after the 2011 draft to pitch in the season, so he started his professional career as a 22-year-old in low-A. He started 18 games there, and he showed the ability to miss bats while having decent control, averaging 9.7 SO/9 and 3.09 SO/BB. He was promoted to high-A for the final 7 games of the season, and continued his good performance: 10.7 SO/9 and 3.15 SO/BB. Overall, he pitched 129 innings between the two levels, with an ERA under 3.00 and a .211 batting average against.

During the offseason, Meyer was featured on several top-100 prospect lists:
#40 MLB.com (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2013/)
#59 Baseball America
(http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/2013/02/2013-top-100-prospects-list/)#61 ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8878129/mlb-top-100-prospects-2013-nos-51-75)
#63 Minor League Ball (http://www.minorleagueball.com/2013/3/13/4095252/minor-league-ball-top-150-prospects-for-2013-john-sickels)
#78 Fangraphs (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/fangraphs-top-100-prospects-2/)
#88 Baseball Prospectus (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=19694)
Within the Twins organization he has battled with Kyle Gibson for title of best pitching prospect, and has been ranked as anywhere from the Twins's 3rd to 6th best prospect.

This year, as a 23-year-old, he has been assigned to AA with the New Britain Rock Cats. He has started 2 games so far this year, pitching 10 innings with 14 strikeouts and just 3 walks.

I was able to travel to Richmond to see his first start, and you can find my writeup about the game here: Alex Meyer's Rock Cats Debut - Twinkie Town (http://www.twinkietown.com/2013/4/8/4196240/alex-meyers-rock-cats-debut)

markos
04-20-2013, 08:41 AM
Alex Meyer started a game this past Thursday against the Portland Sea Dogs, the AA affiliate of the Boston Red Sox. He pitched 6 very effective innings, with the following line:
6 IP, 0 R, 1 H, 4 BB, 5 SO
Overall, these are Meyer's stats for the season:
16 IP, 3 ER, 13 H, 7 BB, 19 SO
Notes:
- The Sea Dogs lineup included Xander Bogaerts, Boston's consensus top prospect, and a top-10 prospect in all of baseball. Bogaerts had the only hit against Meyer, with his hit a ground-ball to shortstop. He also lined out to shortstop and grounded out to third.
- Other than the line out to shortstop, every other ball-in-play was a ground ball.

minn55441
04-20-2013, 10:01 AM
Alex Meyer started a game this past Thursday against the Portland Sea Dogs, the AA affiliate of the Boston Red Sox. He pitched 6 very effective innings, with the following line:
6 IP, 0 R, 1 H, 4 BB, 5 SO
Overall, these are Meyer's stats for the season:
16 IP, 3 ER, 13 H, 7 BB, 19 SO
Notes:
- The Sea Dogs lineup included Xander Bogaerts, Boston's consensus top prospect, and a top-10 prospect in all of baseball. Bogaerts had the only hit against Meyer, with his hit a ground-ball to shortstop. He also lined out to shortstop and grounded out to third.
- Other than the line out to shortstop, every other ball-in-play was a ground ball.

thanks for the update. Great to hear he is doing well.

markos
04-25-2013, 07:17 PM
Alex Meyer pitched this morning for New Britain against the New Hampshire Fisher Cats, the AA affiliate of the Toronto Blue Jays. He again pitched 6 innings, needing 95 pitches (61 strikes). He scattered 8 hits and 1 walk, giving up 1 run. He had 7 strikeouts. Obviously, it would be nice if he could have had given up fewer hits, but it was nice see him control the strike zone with only the 1 walk.
Notes:
- The Blue Jays traded away much of their farm system this past offseason in trades with Marlins and the Mets. Their AA team in particular is very week, with only a couple of players who could be considered even marginal prospects.

Meyer's season stats:
22 IP, 4 ER, 21 H, 8 BB, 26 SO

markos
04-27-2013, 01:23 PM
A brief mention in the Star Tribune yesterday about Meyer:
Twins minor league report: Top prospect Meyer practices getting out of a jam | StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/204943971.html?refer=y)

cmb0252
05-01-2013, 01:37 PM
A) Awesome adopt a player thread. You have a ton of good info here. Definitely went above and beyond. B) In Jim Callis' weekly chat he answered this question about Mr.Meyers;

What kind of timeline is Alex Meyer on to the majors? Also, has Trevor May looked more like he could be a good starter in the bigs, or do you envision reliever?
Jim Callis: Meyer: Arbitration considerations may delay him, but could see him up after the break. May is a reliever for me–don’t trust the control or command.

markos
05-02-2013, 08:39 AM
Alex Meyer pitched this past Tuesday on the last day of April against the Harrisburg Senators, the AA affiliate of the Washington Nationals. This was his worst start of the season, giving up 4 runs in 6 innings, with all the runs coming in the 3rd. Rather than my own commentary on the game, I strongly recommend reading the write-up from Twins Fan From Afar (http://http://twinsdaily.com/1656-alex-meyer-s-rough-start.html), who was at the game. It is an awesome article, so please read and enjoy.
Notes:
- The Nationals AA team has a decent lineup, with one major prospect (Brian Goodwin), several minor ("C") prospects, as well as a handful of replacement-level major leaguers (including former Twin Erik Komatsu). However, they have yet to hit well this season, and are one of the worse offensive teams in the Eastern League.
- Another good article to read about Meyer and his knuckle-curve ball (http://www.courant.com/sports/baseball/hc-rock-cats-alex-meyer-0430-20130429,0,6825994.story).

Meyer's season stats:
28 IP, 8 ER, 26 H, 11 BB, 34 SO, 0 HR
2.57 ERA, 2.06 FIP, 1.32 WHIP
10.93 K/9, 3.54 BB/9

markos
05-06-2013, 01:59 PM
Alex Meyer started his 6th game of the season on Sunday, and he once again had a decent start ruined by one bad inning. In this instance, Meyer was unable to get out of the 5th inning, giving up 5 runs in the frame. The inning went like this:
walk
single
single - 1 run scored
walk
pop out
strike out
single - 3 runs scored
double - 1 run scored
pitching change

One of the runs ended up being unearned, but still, much of the damage was self-inflicted with the two walks. It is disappointed to see that he was very close to limiting the damage of that inning, but then ended up giving up 4 of the runs with two outs.

Notes:
- This is the 3rd time in the young season that Meyer has started against the Portland Sea Dogs. Not sure if that contributed to his struggles, but they may have made adjustments against him.

Meyer's season stats (in 6 starts):
32.2 IP, 12 ER, 31 H, 14 BB, 40 SO, 0 HR
3.31 ERA, 2.13 FIP, 1.38 WHIP
11.02 K/9, 3.86 BB/9

markos
05-13-2013, 09:11 PM
Alex Meyer had his 7th start of the season on Saturday, and he ended up facing the Portland Sea Dogs for the fourth time this season. Though not as bad as his previous start, Meyer did struggle again, giving up 4 runs (3 earned) in 5 1/3 innings. He did strike out 7 batters, but gave up 7 hits and 4 walks.

Meyer's season stats are creeping in the wrong direction.
(in 7 starts):
38.0 IP, 15 ER, 38 H, 18 BB, 47 SO, 0 HR
3.55 ERA, 2.22 FIP 1.474 WHIP
11.1 K/9, 4.3 BB/9

For anyone interested, here are the season stats for the other New Britain starter, Trevor May (also in 7 starts):
39.1 IP, 14 ER, 30 H, 19 BB, 37 SO, 3 HR
3.20 ERA, 3.99 FIP 1.246 WHIP
8.5 K/9, 4.3 BB/9

markos
05-18-2013, 03:18 PM
Meyer started his 8th game of the year on Friday night. He improved from his previous two starts, as he only gave up 2 runs in 5.1 innings. More importantly, he did not walk a single hitter and only allowed 5 hits. However, one of the hits was a home run - his first home run allowed this season. Here is a recap of the game: The New Britain Herald : New Britain, Conn., and surrounding areas (newbritainherald.com) (http://www.newbritainherald.com/articles/2013/05/18/sports/doc5196eaa906131516062889.txt)

Meyer's season stats (in 8 starts):
43.0 IP, 17 ER, 43 H, 18 BB, 51 SO, 1 HR
3.56 ERA, 2.46 FIP 1.42 WHIP
10.67 K/9, 3.77 BB/9

markos
05-24-2013, 11:58 AM
Meyer pitched again on Wednesday, and I know I'm beginning to sounds like a broken record, but he again pitched well except for "one bad inning". This time, his "one bad inning" was the 4th, where he gave up 4 runs on 4 singles and a walk. He wasn't helped by a fielding error that prolonged the inning, so not all the runs were earned. At the end of the night, he faced 30 batters over 6 2/3 innings, giving up 6 hits and 3 walks to go along with 7 strikeouts.

On the plus side, this was the deepest into a game Meyer has pitched so far this season, as well as the most batters faced.

Meyer's season stats (in 9 starts):
49.2.0 IP, 20 ER, 49 H, 21 BB, 58 SO, 1 HR
3.62 ERA, 2.46 FIP 1.41 WHIP
10.51 K/9, 3.81 BB/9

One interesting tid-bit pointed out in another thread, Meyer is currently 5th in all of AA in Fielding Independent Pitching: http://www.fangraphs.com/minorleaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=5,6,7&qual=y&type=1&season=2013&team=0&players=0

markos
05-24-2013, 03:19 PM
There is a recently posted scouting report from Baseball Prospectus (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=20687). Unfortunately, subscription is required; however, here is a snippet from the summary:


Overall, project Meyer as an eighth-inning reliever, with a closer’s ceiling. The pitcher has a more-than-capable fastball and slider combination for getting batters out at the highest level in short bursts. He can be consistently overpowering out of the bullpen, with the fastball likely to play up into the high-90s and the slider trouble for hitters when behind in the count. Meyer does not have a deep enough arsenal as constructed to start at the big-league level. I don’t presently see it even in a short-term capacity to see if he can stick. Of concern are Meyer’s command and bouts with wildness.

This report mirrors fairly closely some of the feedback given by members who have seen Meyer this season, though it is rather disappointing to see him dismiss Meyer's potential as a starter.

30whales
05-24-2013, 10:53 PM
I will be very disappointed if Meyer's doesn't end up as a starter. You don't trade a good centerfielder for a possible set-up man or closer.

jorgenswest
05-24-2013, 11:39 PM
I will be very disappointed if Meyer's doesn't end up as a starter. You don't trade a good centerfielder for a possible set-up man or closer.

I will share the disappointment.

I do understand that we traded for a guy whose ceiling is top of the rotation starter and floor is late inning reliever. You can't get a guaranteed top of the rotation starter for a good center fielder. They needed to take the risk in order to get the upside. No matter how it turns out, it was worth the risk.

I would prefer they take the risk rather than get a young pitcher with a possible ceiling of mid rotation starter that is ready for the majors. That guy is Vance Worley. With May a good return for Revere, but neither has the upside of Meyer.

Pius Jefferson
05-25-2013, 12:01 AM
My first question is what's the history of accuracy with scouting reports from Baseball Prospectus?

robbie111
05-25-2013, 12:05 AM
Maybe Cueller can teach him a to throw a real nice changeup when he moves up to AAA. He probably just needs one more pitch and he will be successful as a starter.

Pius Jefferson
05-25-2013, 04:30 AM
Perhaps we got our hopes up that a 29 year old CF with a career OPS+ of 102 was going to bring back a top of the rotation starter.

30whales
05-25-2013, 11:24 PM
What is everybody's opinion on Jason Parks as a scout? I really enjoy listening to his podcast Fringe Average and enjoyed Up and In so I feel like I trust his opinion but I don't know his track record on correctly scouting prospects. I ask this because I know he is one who says he thinks that Meyer will end up as a late-inning bullpen guy. Thanks.

markos
05-26-2013, 09:19 PM
What is everybody's opinion on Jason Parks as a scout? I really enjoy listening to his podcast Fringe Average and enjoyed Up and In so I feel like I trust his opinion but I don't know his track record on correctly scouting prospects. I ask this because I know he is one who says he thinks that Meyer will end up as a late-inning bullpen guy. Thanks.

The actual report was filed by Chris Mellen, who is a recent addition to BP. I've tried to dig up some older reports to get a feeling for his style, but I didn't have much luck. He appears to have been a scout for a Red Sox prospect blog prior to working for BP.

30whales
05-26-2013, 10:00 PM
The actual report was filed by Chris Mellen, who is a recent addition to BP. I've tried to dig up some older reports to get a feeling for his style, but I didn't have much luck. He appears to have been a scout for a Red Sox prospect blog prior to working for BP.

I asked a question previously on a Jason Parks chat what he thought of Alex Meyer and he responded by saying something about how he saw him as a late-inning reliever so that is what I was referring to.

markos
05-28-2013, 08:02 AM
I asked a question previously on a Jason Parks chat what he thought of Alex Meyer and he responded by saying something about how he saw him as a late-inning reliever so that is what I was referring to.

Thanks for the clarification. Feel free add any info you hear/read about Meyer to this thread.

markos
05-28-2013, 11:49 AM
Alex Meyer had his 10th start of the season on Memorial Day, and again put in a sub-par performance. He lasted only 5 innings and gave up 4 runs in those innings.

The good:
5 strikeouts in 5 innings.
Only 2 hits allowed.

The bad:
4 walks.
95 pitches in only 5 innings.
1 home run allowed.

The ugly:
Meyer started the game off with 3 straight walks, and allowed a run to score on a wild pitch. His ERA is creeping awfully close to 4.00, and his BB/9 is now over 4.

Season stats:
Meyer's season stats (in 10 starts):
44.2 IP, 24 ER, 51 H, 25 BB, 63 SO, 2 HR
3.95 ERA, 2.80 FIP 1.39 WHIP
10.4 K/9, 4.1 BB/9

markos
05-31-2013, 03:42 PM
Mention of Meyer during Mike Newman's chat on Fangraphs (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mike-newman-prospects-chat-53113/):



12:51
Comment From Dan
Alex Meyer’s numbers – go/ao, 2 HR allowed, 63K/54.2IP, are fairly eye popping. If he can get his BB rate down to a more acceptable level, are we looking at a potentially dominating pitcher?







12:53
Mike Newman: The stuff is there for him to be a 2/3 starter, but command/control is always the question. It’s great to dream on pure stuff, but he still needs to refine some. One can’t say a pitcher will dominate until this happens.

jokin
06-01-2013, 06:45 AM
Alex Meyer had his 10th start of the season on Memorial Day, and again put in a sub-par performance. He lasted only 5 innings and gave up 4 runs in those innings.

The good:
5 strikeouts in 5 innings.
Only 2 hits allowed.

The bad:
4 walks.
95 pitches in only 5 innings.
1 home run allowed.

The ugly:
Meyer started the game off with 3 straight walks, and allowed a run to score on a wild pitch. His ERA is creeping awfully close to 4.00, and his BB/9 is now over 4.

Season stats:
Meyer's season stats (in 10 starts):
44.2 IP, 24 ER, 51 H, 25 BB, 63 SO, 2 HR
3.95 ERA, 2.80 FIP 1.39 WHIP
10.4 K/9, 4.1 BB/9




This is a bit of an over-reaction bordering on needless panic.

In point of fact, he has actually pitched 54.2 innings, not 44.2. Further, his FIP still resides at 2.80- which is good for 5th in the Eastern League- his ridiculously good K/9 rate is also ranked 5th in the EL. And his current BABIP is very high relative to his career number (.325) , indicating a touch of bad luck and a somewhat porous New Britain defense- virtually bereft of ML prospects (Cats defense ranks 10th in the 12-team league). Are EL power hitters squaring up on him? No way, he has a very impressive HR/9 of 0.33- which ranks 4th in the EL.

It can only be said that he has had 3 poor outings in his 10 starts; let's be a little patient while he struggles at times, a 6'9" pitcher with his live arm is going to have growing pains.

big dog
06-01-2013, 07:52 AM
Thanks, this is encouraging.

markos
06-02-2013, 07:59 PM
As the calendar flipped over into June, Meyer had his best start of the season. Crediting a mechanical change (http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130602&content_id=49355596&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb), he dominated everyone in the Bowie Baysox lineup (well, everyone except Brandon Waring). Meyer pitched 6 1/3 innings, and punched out 10 Baysox batters, with only 2 walks and 2 hits allowed.

The great:
Meyer faced 22 batters and struck out 10 - 45% of the plate appearances ended in a K.

The good:
Only two walks and two hits allowed. (Both hits and a walk were to Brandon Waring)

The bad:
He allowed a home run, his 3rd of the season.

Season stats:
Meyer's season stats (in 11 starts):
61 IP, 25 ER, 53 H, 27 BB, 73 SO, 3 HR
3.69 ERA, 2.82 FIP 1.31 WHIP
10.77 K/9, 3.98 BB/9

Meyer's ranking in the Eastern League:
SO - 2nd (74)
K/9 - 2nd (10.77)
FIP - 4th (2.82)
K% - 6th (27.7%)
Batting Average Against - 8th (.225)

To expand on Jokin's comment about batters squaring up the ball against Meyer, I dug through the game logs and counted only 12 extra base hits against him so far this season, with the following breakdown:
2B - 8
3B - 1
HR - 3
Using this, I was able to determine that batters have the following triple-slash against Meyer:
.225/.307/.308
This gives them an OPS of about .615.

markos
06-09-2013, 05:07 PM
Bad news for Alex Meyer.

According to Mike Berardino, Meyer has been put on the disabled list due to a sore shoulder (http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_23423147/minnesota-twins-meyer-shelf). Hopefully it is nothing major and a few extra days of rest will be sufficient to get him back in good help. In addition, I'm sure the Twins are being extra cautious with one of their best pitching prospect. On the other hand, shoulder injuries are always scary, so there is plenty to worry about.

markos
06-25-2013, 10:50 AM
As far as I have heard, there is no updates on when Meyer will be reactivated after his shoulder soreness. In a piece of good (and old) news, his MRI came back clean: Alex Meyer's MRI clean; 'I don't think anybody thought it was serious' - Minnesota Twins news | 1500 ESPN Twin Cities ? Minnesota Sports News & Opinion (Twins, Vikings, Wolves, Wild, Gophers) | Sportswire: Minnesota Twins (http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Alex_Meyers_MRI_clean_I_dont_think_anybody_thought _it_was_serious061113) If anyone has heard any updates on Meyer's injury, please post them.

In other news, many prospect following sites are going to be releasing updated top-100ish lists based on the first half of the season and the draft. The first updated version I've seen is from Baseball Prospectus: Baseball Prospectus | Prospects Will Break Your Heart: The Mid-Season Top 50 Prospects (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=21024)

#44 RHP Alex Meyer (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=70760) (Twins)
Placement on Pre-Season 101: #88
Current MiLB Level/Affiliate: Double-A New Britain
Prospect Trajectory: Up; most likely still an underrated prospect; questions about ultimate role add risk to a higher ranking; has no. 2 starter upside and a floor of a late-innings bullpen arm; strong second half and improved command could lead to huge offseason jump up the list.
Major League ETA: 2014

This is very interesting, as back in May another scout for this site released a report of Meyer that definitely seemed to suggest that Meyer was destined for the bullpen. This report seems to be much more bullish on Meyer staying in the rotation.

Overall, the Twins were well represented, with 3 on the top-50 list and 2 more in the 'just missed' list.

Red Bull
06-25-2013, 11:24 AM
I keep looking at the Twins SP prospects and am now im thinking they dont really have as much as we thought we did. The top guys were Meyer, Gibson, Berrios and now Stewart. Meyer is super tall and could have alot of complications with that and now hes having injury problems, some are projecting him as a RP. Gibson is 25 and has had TJ so we have no clue how good hes gonna be, Gleeman and the Geek were compairing him to Diamond and Baker. I think thats ridiculous and his cieling is alot higher. Berrios is still in low A but hes been pretty good lately. Stewart still has to play before we can say anything. I just feel like we dont have as much as we thought we did. Stewart is the only potential Ace and I have heard he doesnt even profile as an ace. Idk what to think, cant wait to see Gibson pitch on SAT.

markos
07-01-2013, 08:52 AM
There have been some discussion about Meyer's status, though there doesn't seem to be anything concrete about his return. This is a good summation from a separate Twins Daily article:



And yet, three weeks later, Meyer still has not pitched competitively. It doesn't look like he's especially close to doing so. Over the weekend, New Britain manager Jeff Smith had this to say (https://twitter.com/MattattheHerald/status/351470409784369154) about the righty: "Hopefully by the end of the season, really just later in the season, he'll be able to pitch in some games." Matt Straub, who covers the Rock Cats for the New Britain Herald, inferred (https://twitter.com/MattattheHerald/status/351458178732527620) that to mean Meyer would be out for at least the entire month of July.

It sounds like he is currently in Florida and may begin a throwing program soon.

markos
07-08-2013, 10:06 AM
I haven't heard any updates on Meyer's injury. However, he was ranked in Baseball America's Midseason top-50 (http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-prospect-update-top-50-prospects/).



32
Alex Meyer
rhp
Twins


His acquisition helped fill Twins’ most desperate need–nearly big league ready power pitching.



Hopefully he can get back on the mound soon and continue his development.

crarko
07-08-2013, 12:13 PM
Tweet from LEN:

https://twitter.com/lavelleneal/status/354260767236833280

Expects him back in NB soon. Hope so.

markos
07-20-2013, 07:57 PM
Alex Meyer is still shut down, so there haven't been any performance updates in the past few weeks. However, there was an blurb from Scott Boras (Meyer's agent) saying that he has no concerns about the injury or the Twins treatment program. Link here (http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=860874-twins-alex-meyer-likely-to-pitch-this-season). He also expects Meyer to pitch again before the end of the year.

All of the major mid-season Prospect rankings have now been released, and here is the roundup for Meyer:

Baseball America (http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-prospect-update-top-50-prospects/): #32
Keith Law (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9483033/byron-buxton-minnesota-twins-new-no-1-prospect-baseball-mlb): #38
John Sickels (http://www.minorleagueball.com/2013/7/18/4534646/minor-league-ball-top-75-prospects-mid-season-update): #51
Baseball Prospectus (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=21024): #44
Fangraphs (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/fangraphs-2013-mid-season-top-50-prospects/): #36

None of them expressed any major concern about his injury.

Shane Wahl
07-20-2013, 09:07 PM
That's an average of 40.2. Pretty good!

markos
08-10-2013, 03:01 PM
Meyer finally took the mound again this season, this time for the Ft. Myers Twins in the Gulf Coast League. He faced 9 batters and recorded 5 strikeouts, but gave up a walk and 3 hits before reaching his pitch count limit.

Nick Nelson
08-10-2013, 03:36 PM
Meyer finally took the mound again this season, this time for the Ft. Myers Twins in the Gulf Coast League. He faced 9 batters and recorded 5 strikeouts, but gave up a walk and 3 hits before reaching his pitch count limit.
I'll take it. Gotta love a 27.0 K/9 rate.

I wonder how the Twins are going to view Alex Meyer heading into next season. Will he be considered a legitimate contender for an MLB rotation spot? He will be 24, and almost certainly the most talented pitcher in camp. Then again, he's probably going to finish this season with under 100 innings pitched, and it seems unlikely he'll get any experience in Triple-A.

Twins Fan From Afar
08-10-2013, 04:10 PM
I'll take it. Gotta love a 27.0 K/9 rate.

I wonder how the Twins are going to view Alex Meyer heading into next season. Will he be considered a legitimate contender for an MLB rotation spot? He will be 24, and almost certainly the most talented pitcher in camp. Then again, he's probably going to finish this season with under 100 innings pitched, and it seems unlikely he'll get any experience in Triple-A.

That's a great question. He may not even make it back to AA for any meaningful time. Tough to imagine that half a season at AA in 2013 is sufficient for the Twins to think he's ready to compete in March of 2014 for the starting rotation.

But you never know.

Butterfingers8
08-10-2013, 06:04 PM
It's possible he could pitch in AAA when the wings make the playoffs, they'll need some pitching.

CGNikolic
08-10-2013, 06:32 PM
It appears most likely that Meyer and May both start next year in the AAA rotation, with both getting a legitimate chance at cracking the majors as early as opening day. I think this is the best option for both of them, with the best scenario being they both prove they are ready and make it to the Twins ASAP. I don't think Meyer pitches past AA this year.

Shane Wahl
08-10-2013, 06:59 PM
AFL for Meyer in order to build up some more innings. I bet they just start him at AAA and wait and see next year.

beckmt
08-10-2013, 07:21 PM
Thing he may make it back to AA this year. Next year start at AAA and see how he does. May will probably also start next year at AAA.

AM.
08-10-2013, 08:48 PM
I'd like to see him pitch in Bowie at the end of the month.

Great to see him back on the mound, I was starting to worry this would be a longer thing.

TRex
08-12-2013, 07:25 AM
In yesterday's 'Twins minor league radio report', the Twins official said Meyer was back to hitting 98 mph in his GCL start, so that is promising! No mention of whether he was allowed to throw the knuckle-curve, though.

markos
08-13-2013, 09:38 PM
Meyer pitched again today down in the Gulf Coast League. He pitched three scoreless innings, striking out two. From the game log it appears that he struggled a bit in the first inning, as he walked two of the first three batters. However, he got out of the inning, and proceeded to go two more innings, scattering two hits. I'm not sure what his pitch count was for the game, but he ended up facing 12 batters. I'm guessing he threw roughly 50 pitches.

markos
08-20-2013, 06:54 AM
Meyer had another rehab outing for the Gulf Coast League. In this game he appeared to be in top form. He through 3 2/3 innings, gave up 2 hits, but had NINE strikeouts. So of the 11 outs he recorded, 9 came via strikeout. Not too shabby.

Unless there are specific concerns that the front office has identified (ex. velocity not all the way back, pitch count limits, not throwing breaking ball well, etc), Meyer's results seem to indicate that he is all the way back and should be promoted back up to AA.

markos
08-25-2013, 11:34 AM
Really nice outing by Meyer last night for New Britain. I was at the game and have a short writeup here: Meyer, Sano and Rosario - Twinkie Town (http://www.twinkietown.com/2013/8/25/4656414/meyer-sano-and-rosario)

Also, here is some crappy video that I took: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjOw06wyLfQ

markos
09-25-2013, 08:07 AM
Alex Meyer update. He is pitching down at the Florida Instructional League. Here is a really fantastic article over at Twinkietown about his recent start. Lots of really good nuggets in there.

Florida Instructional League Game 9/21 and Interview with Alex Meyer - Twinkie Town (http://www.twinkietown.com/2013/9/24/4767570/florida-instructional-league-game-9-21-and-interview-with-alex-meyer)

markos
09-25-2013, 08:16 AM
This post has a bunch of good video of Meyer (and others) doing bullpen work:

Inside Look at Florida Instructional League 9/19 Camp Day - Twinkie Town (http://www.twinkietown.com/2013/9/24/4767500/inside-look-at-florida-instructional-league-9-19-camp-day)

markos
10-11-2013, 11:54 AM
Arizona Fall League update for Alex Meyer.

He pitched on Tuesday for the Glendale Desert Dogs, throwing 3 innings. His final line was 5 hits, 3 runs, 1 walk, 3 strikeouts. Not his best outing, but he did impress some of the scouts in the stands with his stuff. Here are some scouts' takes on his outing that I found:

Tweets from Bernie Pleskoff (scout/writer for mlb.com):

#Twins (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Twins&src=hash) Meyer confirmed at 97-99 mph with one pitch at 100. Didn't command it that well, but velocity is there. Lots of swings and misses.
https://twitter.com/BerniePleskoff/status/387666392209563648


What I Didn't Like: Surprised at the lack of command on #Twins (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Twins&src=hash) Alex Meyer's fastball. Flat from the stretch. He threw 100 mph. once today.
https://twitter.com/BerniePleskoff/status/387704171354271744

And then from Keith Law's AFL update (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/keith-law/post?id=1339)posted this afternoon:

Minnesota right-hander Alex Meyer, acquired in the Denard Span (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/29087/denard-span) trade, started the first game on Tuesday, hitting 100 mph in his first inning and sitting 96-99 for three innings with great sink on the pitch.


Much of what Meyer needs to accomplish comes down to his size -- tall pitchers often have trouble repeating their deliveries and maintaining their coordination, which hurts command. If Meyer can get that consistency with his delivery, he's a potential top 30 starter because he can miss bats and get ground balls, but he will have to throw more and better strikes first.

nicksaviking
10-11-2013, 12:05 PM
"What I Didn't Like: Surprised at the lack of command on #Twins (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Twins&src=hash) Alex Meyer's fastball. Flat from the stretch. He threw 100 mph. once today."

Well hell, just strike everyone out and stop having to pitch from the stretch. Problem solved.

markos
11-10-2013, 12:30 PM
Arizona Fall League update for Alex Meyer.

Short story: He's doing very well.

Longer story:

He has made 6 starts in the AFL (not counting the AFL All-Star game), in which he has the following line.

2.74 ERA, 23.0 Innings, 25 Ks, 6 BBs

In particular, his last start Friday night was a gem. He pitched 5.2 innings, giving up 0 runs and only 1 hit and 1 walk while striking out 7 batters. He had a no-hitter through 5 innings.

Finally, he did a nice interview after his start with the MLB Network announcers.
http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=31211775&topic_id=26271672

Sounds like everything is going well for Meyer down in Arizona. Hopefully he keeps it up.

Hosken Bombo Disco
11-10-2013, 12:53 PM
Thank you for your work tracking this guy - this was a smart trade that's looking smarter and smarter.

And not that it needs to be pointed out any more, but… a television interview with a minor leaguer, from the dugout, in the middle of a game? Is this recent? :) We are living in different times indeed.

Chance
11-12-2013, 12:23 PM
http://wapc.mlb.com/min/play/?content_id=31211711&topic_id=7617858

This is the highlights (bat by bat) of his 5 2/3 one hit outing.

markos
11-25-2013, 07:52 AM
A recent article about Alex Meyer from MLB.com writer (and former scout) Bernie Pleskoff:

http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20131122&content_id=64101764&vkey=news_min&c_id=min&tcid=tw_article_64101764

Here are a few snippets from the article:


Meyer has moments on the mound when he can't be hit. He induces swings and misses with a 95-98 mph fastball, a slider and a knee-buckling, sinking 83-mph changeup.

There are times, however, when he has trouble making his lanky arms and legs work in sync with his three-quarters arm slot. In those instances, he fails to repeat his clean delivery, he lands awkwardly, flies open and loses command. It can happen to him quickly.
And just as quickly, his smoother delivery returns.
Awkward. That's how Meyer looks when he's out of sync.
Dominating. That's how Meyer is when everything works in harmony. And it works in harmony most of the time.

When everything is working well, Meyer can be overpowering and control the game.

Paul Pleiss
11-28-2013, 11:56 PM
When do you guys expect to see Meyer up with the Twins in 2014? Do you think he comes up before September? Before the All-Star break? My money is on a post August first call up.

Seth Stohs
11-29-2013, 09:16 AM
When do you guys expect to see Meyer up with the Twins in 2014? Do you think he comes up before September? Before the All-Star break? My money is on a post August first call up.

If he's healthy, it'll be earlier than that. I'd guess early June. Or sooner.

jorgenswest
11-29-2013, 09:30 AM
I hope May 1 at the latest. He needs to adjust to he majors with a fresh arm and his best stuff. As long as he doesn't show significant control issues in spring, it really should be opening day.

I wouldn't be concerned about service time for a 24 year old pitcher. If it is a concern, get the extra year of service by waiting a few weeks. They should absolutely not worry about super 2. If he pitches lights out and earns big dollars in arbitration a year early, pay him and be thankful.

markos
11-29-2013, 09:47 AM
When do you guys expect to see Meyer up with the Twins in 2014? Do you think he comes up before September? Before the All-Star break? My money is on a post August first call up.

I can see a lot of different situations that could play out. Overall, I think there are three factors in this: 1) any innings limit the Twins place on Meyer, 2) how the major league rotation is doing, and 3) Meyer's remaining development.

1) Meyer only pitched 104 inning this past season, and the Twins have traditionally been fairly conservative about bumping up workloads between seasons. I wouldn't be surprised if the Twins capped Meyer at 150 innings for 2014, which basically means he will be shut down at the end of August. (Gibson's last start was August 30th, and he ended up with 154 innings.) If they decide they want Meyer in the Twins rotation for a significant part of 2014 and he's on a innings limit, then he needs to be called up earlier in the year - probably June.

2) Assuming the Twins sign one more free agent starter, there is a possibility that Meyer won't have a spot in the rotation. I know that sounds crazy; however, Nolasco, Correia and Free Agent X are basically guaranteed spots, and it isn't completely inconceivable that two out of Deduno, Gibson, Diamond, Worley or Albers could have decent-to-good seasons. Now I don't think any of those 5 should be blocking Meyer, I just know that the Twins have hesitated when promoting prospects to take the place of veterans, even mediocre ones. It isn't too hard to imagine a scenario where, say, Deduno and Gibson have both pitched okay through April and May, and there is no obvious place in the rotation for Meyer come June 1st. Now injuries and performance will most likely open a spot in the rotation at some point during the season, but I have a hard time seeing the Twins working hard to force an opening for Meyer.

3) I don't have a good sense of how ready the Twins think Meyer currently is. If they feel he needs to work on his consistency, improve a specific pitch or build up arm strength, then I could see them keeping him in the minors longer than his performance may dictate. Without knowing what those milestones are, it is hard to guess when they will think he is ready.

From reports and articles I've read from scouts, there are two things Meyer needs to work on yet: his change-up and better consistency from the stretch. My personal plan for Meyer would be for him to over-emphasis on those two areas in spring training and then in Rochester to start the season. Assuming good progress, in May I would open up his full arsenal. Provided he dominates AAA in May, then I would look to call him up around June 1st and then pitch through August at the majors, hopefully getting about 150 total innings for the season before being shut down.

markos
12-17-2013, 08:27 PM
Does the signing of Phil Hughes and Mike Pelfrey change the opinion of anyone about when Meyer will debut with the Twins? Now I'm thinking he may be a September call up.

Now there is a lot of time before opening day, and the roster can be adjusted quite a bit. However, given its current state I think that the Twins's "best case" scenario for the starting rotation is for one of Deduno/Diamond/Worley will be healthy and effective, and lock down the 5th starter spot out of spring training. That means that both Gibson and Meyer will be in AAA. Assuming that Correia will be traded sometime in July, Gibson will take his place, and there won't be a spot for Meyer until the rosters expand in September. Injuries or terrible pitching may create earlier opportunities, but now I think Meyer's ETA is September.

Is everyone else sticking with their original guesses, or have the recent signings also changed your minds?

beckmt
12-17-2013, 09:10 PM
Depends on whether he is so good in AAA, he forces his way up here. That is what TR is hoping.

howieramone
12-17-2013, 10:21 PM
Depends on whether he is so good in AAA, he forces his way up here. That is what TR is hoping.

Exactly! When Meyer is ready to shine on the big stage they will find a spot for him, as it should be. This won't be another Gibson, where the rotation imploded and they were looking for a savior. Long term, I don't believe it hurt Gibson, but it certainly didn't help him.

gunnarthor
12-17-2013, 10:43 PM
I think Meyer is up when he shows he's ready. Last year we had 8 starters make 10 or more starts. The year before it was 9. Don't worry about him being blocked.

Hosken Bombo Disco
12-17-2013, 11:42 PM
I hope May 1 at the latest. He needs to adjust to he majors with a fresh arm and his best stuff. As long as he doesn't show significant control issues in spring, it really should be opening day.

I wouldn't be concerned about service time for a 24 year old pitcher. If it is a concern, get the extra year of service by waiting a few weeks. They should absolutely not worry about super 2. If he pitches lights out and earns big dollars in arbitration a year early, pay him and be thankful.

Agree with this.

Intramural Legend
12-26-2013, 09:30 AM
Not really baseball related, but an interesting read non the less.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/twins/2013/12/25/alex-meyer-minnesota-pitching-prospect-teacher-offseason/4199115/#!

Sounds like a pretty normal guy, just trying to starve off boredom and give back to the community a bit.

nytwinsfan
12-26-2013, 09:49 AM
Thanks, that's a really cool article Intramural Legend. Meyer sounds like a really cool, down-to-earth, guy. Great to have people like him on the team.

minn55441
12-26-2013, 10:01 AM
great article. thanks for sharing.