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Seth Stohs
03-26-2012, 10:02 AM
Here's the Twins lineup today versus the Rays:

Denard Span CF
Jamey Carroll SS
Joe Mauer C
Justin Morneau DH
Josh Willingham LF
Ryan Doumit RF
Danny Valencia 3B
Chris Parmelee 1B
Alexi Casilla 2B

SP: Scott Baker (Hendriks, Burnett, Fien, Gray, Manship)

Rays
Ben Zobrist RF
Luke Scott DH
Evan Longoria 3B
Carlos Pena 1B
Jeff Keppinger 2B
Jose Molina C
Elliot Johnson SS
Will Rhymes LF
Jesus Feliciano CF

SP: Jeff Niemann

Earlier today, the Twins send Brendan Wise back to minor league camp so the team is down to 38 players in big league camp.

edavis0308
03-26-2012, 10:09 AM
Side note, I believe this is televised on FSN.

Twins Fan From Afar
03-26-2012, 10:21 AM
Opening Day lineup?

denarded
03-26-2012, 10:27 AM
Opening Day lineup?

My thoughts exactly. And not bad

Seth Stohs
03-26-2012, 11:58 AM
From Mackey, Willingham pulled with a "very minor ankle tweak." Revere will play LF and bat 8th.

mikeee
03-26-2012, 12:22 PM
Opening Day lineup?

Geez. I wish I was at home to try it out on the new TV!!

Mauerpower
03-26-2012, 12:22 PM
so mauer @ catcher, Span @ cf, and Valencia @ 3rd. Those are the only real locks right now. all the other positions are basically up in the air and dependent on health and other factors

mnfireman
03-26-2012, 12:33 PM
Baker not looking good. Bad location and no movement.

minn55441
03-26-2012, 12:36 PM
Looks like Baker has given up a couple hits and one walk through 2 innings. How has his velocity been? Back in the 90's yet?

minn55441
03-26-2012, 12:38 PM
spoke too soon. Grand slam and they are still batting in the second. I guess he doesn't have his good stuff back yet.

mikeee
03-26-2012, 12:44 PM
Homer for Doumit.. 4-1

Nick Nelson
03-26-2012, 12:49 PM
Baker is not looking at all sharp. Tossing soft fastballs down the middle and they're getting crushed. I will say that the hitters are looking a lot better than they have in previous spring games I've had the chance to watch.

Dilligaf69
03-26-2012, 12:51 PM
Ben Zobrist a very mediocre player again kills Twins....Hey Gardy you fat idiot how about plunking him..This craphole coaching staff just not smart enough to figure it out.. Typical Baker will be so glad when this guy is gone..



HAHA please GO AWAY!

Cap'n Piranha
03-26-2012, 12:53 PM
Ben Zobrist a very mediocre player again kills Twins....Hey Gardy you fat idiot how about plunking him..This craphole coaching staff just not smart enough to figure it out.. Typical Baker will be so glad when this guy is gone..

Because the solution to this team's problems is beaning people? I think you're a little too worked up over a spring game there, my friend.

DrJubal
03-26-2012, 01:01 PM
Rocket bats!

Looks like Baker's in mid-season form already.

mikeee
03-26-2012, 01:03 PM
I am practicing my booing in spring training....

BOOO!!!!! Baker gives up a dinger!!!!! :D

Gernzy
03-26-2012, 01:16 PM
Hopefully Baker can get back into form soon. At least I got to see Doumit's bomb during lunch.

Harrison Greeley III
03-26-2012, 01:30 PM
I got confused when he called Ben Zobrist a mediocre player. He is in reality what people have always perceived Michael Cuddyer to be.

Seth Stohs
03-26-2012, 01:34 PM
Not sure why, but I 'm not worried about Baker. Assuming his elbow is fine and strong, it'll just take a couple of starts to get back to form. He's going to give up some HR, so that doesn't bother me. Will be good to see more of that movement that he normally has on his pitches.

As for Zobrist, he is a pretty good ball player. I believe he's been an All Star. He has hit many HR. And yes, he's a guy who has the Twins number. That's one of those weird things...

Hitting someone in a spring game is pretty ridiculous.

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 01:38 PM
DL Baker. Please. There is no way to survive getting mid-upper 80s "fastball" thrown over the middle of the plate.

SirLoin
03-26-2012, 01:39 PM
What are the chances Baker starts the season on the DL?

woolhouse
03-26-2012, 01:40 PM
It looks like the chances are pretty good right now...

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 01:44 PM
Anyone notice that Span is slowing down his early torrid pace, now down to .300?

Fanatic Jack
03-26-2012, 01:45 PM
Actually giving up 10 RBI games, 9th inning HRs, and letting a slightly better than average player look like Willie Mays for the last 3 years is about as rediculous as it gets...How about the pitching staff try something different for a change...Zobrist is way too comfortable at the plate and that's an undisputed fact.. Looks like the bloggers are as Minnesota Nice as our fantastic starting rotation..

Twins Fan From Afar
03-26-2012, 01:51 PM
How has Morneau done today?

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 01:55 PM
How has Morneau done today?


0-2 thus far.


I agree w/Jack on this point. Twins do not pitch inside enough. Too many guys dig in and let it rip, because the Twins are known for getting the ball over the plate.

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 01:58 PM
1-3 for Morneau, doubled Mauer to 3rd with 1 out in the fifth.

Twins Fan From Afar
03-26-2012, 01:59 PM
1-3 for Morneau, doubled Mauer to 3rd with 1 out in the fifth.

Thanks for the update! My work is remarkably adept at keeping us off of all the websites where I could get that information . . . .

birdwatcher
03-26-2012, 02:13 PM
And calling someone a fat idiot is totally classless, FJ.

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 02:15 PM
Hollimon got thrown out at the place on the Doumit Sac Fly, running for Morneau. (according to game day)

Hendriks has gone a couple innings.

Burroughs PH and got HBP.
So I guess it IS ok to hit someone in spring training :cool:

glennhl
03-26-2012, 02:25 PM
Manship relieved Baker with 2 outs in the third inning and looked good for 1 and 1/3 innings.

John Bonnes
03-26-2012, 02:25 PM
Just a note about civil discourse - I've deleted three posts in this thread. I'v also sent private message explaining why to the members.

1. If you want to criticize someone, keep it on topic. If you want to say it is idiotic to not coach pitching inside and occasionally plunk a batter, that's fine. If you're just calling some guy a fat idiot or craphole, that's off limits.
2. You can't go after other members because you disagree with their opinions. You can go after their opinions - you can't go after them.

I don't want to ban anyone for any period of time. This community tries to respect varying opinions, no matter how crassly people choose to express them. But I've put too much into this site to let inflamatory disrespectful rhetoric become the norm or even acceptable on this site. If that means banning people, that's what will happen.

Please, play nice. We're all on the same team.

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 02:32 PM
Hendriks 3IP H/3BB/K 1 GIDP

John Bonnes
03-26-2012, 02:39 PM
Unfotunately, I can't get a box score here. It sounds like Baker was bad (and on the radio they said his velocity topped out in teh 86-88 range.) Then Manship got through the fourth. Then, did Hendricks come in? That would be a little weird.

Can someone tell me Manship's stats? Any Ks?

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 02:41 PM
Unfotunately, I can't get a box score here. It sounds like Baker was bad (and on the radio they said his velocity topped out in teh 86-88 range.) Then Manship got through the fourth. Then, did Hendricks come in? That would be a little weird.

Can someone tell me Manship's stats? Any Ks?

1.1IP H/BB

Walked the first batter he faced. And yes, Hendriks came in after that. PRobably gave him plenty of time to warm up.


Walk
Groundout
Next inning: Single(Zobrist-again), popout,longoria GIDP

Hendriks is starting his 4th inning.

Bark's Lounge
03-26-2012, 02:43 PM
Unfotunately, I can't get a box score here. It sounds like Baker was bad (and on the radio they said his velocity topped out in teh 86-88 range.) Then Manship got through the fourth. Then, did Hendricks come in? That would be a little weird.

Can someone tell me Manship's stats? Any Ks?

1.1 IP - 1 H - 1 BB - 0 K's

mikeee
03-26-2012, 02:44 PM
Unfotunately, I can't get a box score here. It sounds like Baker was bad (and on the radio they said his velocity topped out in teh 86-88 range.) Then Manship got through the fourth. Then, did Hendricks come in? That would be a little weird.

Can someone tell me Manship's stats? Any Ks?



Minnesota
IP
H
R
ER
BB
SO
HR
ERA


Baker, S (http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=435044)
2.2
7
7
7
1
1
2
13.50


Manship (http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=453249)
1.1
1
0
0
1
0
0
5.19


Hendriks (http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=521230)
3.0
1
0
0
3
1
0
1.29


Totals
7.0
9
7
7
5
2
2
4.58

John Bonnes
03-26-2012, 02:48 PM
Does anyone doubt that Hendricks is basically pitching for Baker's spot here? Or possibly for Marquis'? Pressure is on, young man....

mikeee
03-26-2012, 02:52 PM
Does anyone doubt that Hendricks is basically pitching for Baker's spot here? Or possibly for Marquis'? Pressure is on, young man....

It sure looks like he is.
At least if Baker starts on teh DL, he would be a candidate!

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 02:53 PM
2 run HR to Cody Rogers given up in the 8th.

4IP 4H/2R/3BB/K

mikeee
03-26-2012, 02:56 PM
2 run HR to Cody Rogers given up in the 8th.

4IP 4H/2R/3BB/K

By Hendricks... oops.

Harrison Greeley III
03-26-2012, 02:57 PM
Does anyone doubt that Hendricks is basically pitching for Baker's spot here? Or possibly for Marquis'? Pressure is on, young man....

Between Baker's health issues and Marquis's personal tragedy, I'd be more surprised if he doesn't go north.

Seth Stohs
03-26-2012, 02:57 PM
Could be Baker's spot or Marquis's. I'm sure they're trying to get him stretched out, so he should get 5-6 innings.

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 02:59 PM
Hughes Sac Fly Scored Dinkleman in the bottom/8th

9-3 Rays

Bark's Lounge
03-26-2012, 03:07 PM
Does anyone doubt that Hendricks is basically pitching for Baker's spot here? Or possibly for Marquis'? Pressure is on, young man....

Let's say Baker starts season on DL. Who would be another candidate other than Hendricks? They seem determined to use Duensing out of the bullpen. If it is not Hendricks - I would assume it falls to Swarzak. What are your guys/gals opinions?

luckylager
03-26-2012, 03:09 PM
If not Hendriks, I am guessing Swarzak would be next in line.

Seth Stohs
03-26-2012, 03:09 PM
Casey Fien finally gave up a run this spring. Still would be good to see him work earlier in a game.

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 03:12 PM
Doumit now has 4 rbi's this spring.
Hughes has 14

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 03:27 PM
9th

Benson single
Florimon(.148) GIDP
Butera double(.294)
Hollimon walk
Dinkleman RBI Double(2nd double of the game)
Valencia walk
Hughes end game on a force out

10-4 final

Mr. Ed
03-26-2012, 03:28 PM
Why not Dinkleman as the extra OF/middle infielder and PH?

BD57
03-26-2012, 11:14 PM
Baker in the 80's doesn't cut it. Hopefully it's jus because his arm isn't built up b/c he's missed so much time this spring.

Cap'n Piranha
03-27-2012, 07:13 AM
Actually giving up 10 RBI games, 9th inning HRs, and letting a slightly better than average player look like Willie Mays for the last 3 years is about as rediculous as it gets...How about the pitching staff try something different for a change...Zobrist is way too comfortable at the plate and that's an undisputed fact.. Looks like the bloggers are as Minnesota Nice as our fantastic starting rotation..

And by average, of course you mean a guy who has put up WAR's of 8.7, 3.9 and 6.6 the past 3 years. Albert Pujol's last 3 years are 9.0, 7.5 and 5.1. Miguel Cabrera's last 3 years are 5.3, 6.3 and 7.3. I'm not saying Ben Zobrist is necessarily that good, but your assertion that Zobrist is "slightly better than average" is absolutely laughable.