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12-13-2012, 02:20 AM
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12-13-2012, 08:23 AM
I voted Knoblauch. Yeah, there was the messy breakup with the Twins, but to be fair there were plenty of times in the nineties when I would have begged for a trade to New York or anywhere else if I thought anyone would listen.
He was a huge part of that 91 turnaround season. I remember countless late inning rallies started by him and often finished by Puck.
Besides, in my imagination, he probably had to put up with years of TK calling him "Charles"
I know he probably wouldn't even show up for his own induction ceremony, but he's the right choice. Maybe if we promise not to hold the induction on Dollar Dog Day.
12-13-2012, 08:30 AM
Great topic. It strikes me that this ballot has some very interesting players. Great contributors, those who are known for only one or two games or seasons but a great group. Knoblauch is my automatic on this list. His life-after Twins was certainly unlike many other former Twins. I'd be interested to hear his induction speech. I'll vote for Goltz too. He was a mainstay to the late-70s rotations before leaving for big money with the Dodgers.
12-13-2012, 08:36 AM
I totally concur on Knoblauch...He was the BEST player during some of the WORST times. What I respected about him was, as good as his rookie year was, he came back the next year with an even better game (admittedly could have been PEDs assisted)...he could be a little prick but he was a player. With as ****ty as his life has become since his retirement, I think it would be the coolest ass thing for him to be voted in and return to Target Field to a standing O!...be very moving...and deserved. Even if you didn't like him, he was 'the gift that kept on giving', i.e., landed Eric Milton, Christian Guzman and Brian Buchanan. Milton, after a couple very good seasons went to the Phillies for Carlos Silva and Nick Punto. Of course Buchanan netted Jason Bartlett from the Padres who, along with Matt Garza netted Delmon...uh, OK, it does STOP giving at some point, but you get the point...:)
Fire Dan Gladden
12-13-2012, 09:07 AM
Brunansky and Smalley need to be ranked higher on the list. Brunansky was a tremendous defensive outfielder to go with his power (he was something like 11th in homers hit for the decade of the 80's). Smalley was a view of changes to come for the SS position, bigger, more power, decent defender. Mack, as good as he was, was only good for a short time for the Twins. He should be moved down the list. Tapani was also good for bad teams. Guardado was effective, though we still don't know why.
I like how the Twins Hall of Fame is turning into the "Hall of Pretty Good". I realize that there are only so many players in the teams history, but it seems to me we are approaching the line of players that probably shouldn't be in at all.
If Gladden does somehow make it in, there will be no credibility in the process whatsoever.
12-13-2012, 09:57 AM
I know it's just a typo, but Knoblauch was not AL MVP in 1991. He was the ROY.
12-13-2012, 10:42 AM
I'm voting Knoblauch. But what are the chances he shows up for his ceremony?
12-13-2012, 12:48 PM
Anyone other than Knobby & its a scam.
12-13-2012, 01:16 PM
I like how the Twins Hall of Fame is turning into the "Hall of Pretty Good".
Depends on what you think a team HOF should be. If it's just a regular HOF plus a couple of guys you want to gripe about not getting into the regular HOF, that's one approach. Most times, it's a good deal more inclusive, and I'm fine with that.
To me, an HOF should be approximately "guys who were in the discussion for who are the best few, for a considerable portion of their careers". For the regular HOF that means in baseball as a whole; for a team HOF it means guys who were arguably the best player on that team for a while. Then among those candidates, vote for who you liked best or whatever.
12-13-2012, 02:59 PM
I believe that longevity needs to play into this decision which is why I was happy to see Dave Goltz so high on your list. Knoblauch, Tapani, and Brunansky because of their World Series wins connected with the numbers, and Dave Boswell for his success in that era. Let's have a big class.
12-13-2012, 04:29 PM
Another vote for Knoblauch here. He was a great player for us, and regardless of what happened afterwards he didn't/doesn't deserve the kind of treatment he gets from some Minnesota fans. I was at the game when they honored the All-Metrodome team, and even though Knoblauch didn't show up, he was loudly booed just when they announced his name.
12-13-2012, 06:42 PM
Knoblauch and Koskie for me. I always thought Koskie was a bit underrated, especially defensively. I'd love to drop him into this current Twins line up.
12-14-2012, 01:19 PM
My only problem with Shane Mack is he spent such a short time with the team (in the context of a team HoF). Loved him as a player, but it's hard for me to look at a guy with only 5 years with the team as a top contender. But 4 terrific years and one mediocre. I'm hoping Aaron Hicks turns out to be Shane Mack v2
12-14-2012, 04:30 PM
I'm sorry. Worthington. Then Shane Mack. Dave Goltz is deserving, too. Cesar Tovar is the forgotten gem. I would reward Knoblauch, but he won't come. If it would truly get him out of his funk, I would say "Yes." AL WORTHINGTON was a gem!
12-15-2012, 12:40 AM
First choice for me would be Al Worthington. A deserving candidate and he's getting up their in age. He'll be 84 at the time of the ceremony and it would be nice if he got enjoy the honor.