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Seth Stohs
03-12-2012, 07:21 AM
Twins head to Port Charlotte to play the Rays yet again... Here's the lineup with a rare Joe Mauer sighting on the road in spring training!

Ben Revere CF
Brian Dozier SS
Joe Mauer DH
Chris Parmelee 1B
Ryan Doumit C
Trevor Plouffe LF
Sean Burroughs 3B
Luke Hughes 2B
Rene Tosoni RF

Pitching: Carl Pavano, Jason Bulger, Scott Diamond, Phil Dumatrait, Liam Hendriks, Glen Perkins, Tyler Robertson, Daryl Thompson

Bench: Danny Lehmann, Danny Rams, Chris Herrmann, Aaron Bates, Ray Chang, Mike Hollimon, Oswaldo Arcia, Darin Mastroianni

Fanatic Jack
03-12-2012, 07:50 AM
Denard Span is out with a stiff neck again. Span is becoming a Stiff............Ever since the Twins bought out his arbitration years he has been injured. Phil Mackey keeps telling everybody his contract is very managable and dirt cheap. I would agree with that statement if Span played more than 80 games a year. He has been as injury prone as Mauer & Morneau over the last seasons. Imagine that, this is when he signed his 4-year contract!! Starting to think the Twins missed their chance to unload him to Washington for an elite reliever like Drew Storen. I was against the trade but at some point you have to show some heart and play through some aches and soreness. I still think Ben Revere will be a very good player and should be in CF. Span is coddled by Gardy and Revere just shows up to play anywhere with a smile on his face.

Seth Stohs
03-12-2012, 08:15 AM
How many regular season games has Span missed with injury in 2012?

Parker Hageman
03-12-2012, 08:20 AM
Jason Bulger on the hill today attempting to get his ERA sub-70.00...

Fanatic Jack
03-12-2012, 08:36 AM
Seth,

The season has not started yet. Span missed 101 games over the last two years. He played hurt during the second half of 2010 and deserves credit for being tough. However, I bet Revere won't ask for a day off or miss time due to injuries.

Seth Stohs
03-12-2012, 08:46 AM
Seth,

The season has not started yet. Span missed 101 games over the last two years. He played hurt during the second half of 2010 and deserves credit for being tough. However, I bet Revere won't ask for a day off or miss time due to injuries.

Not sure how to predict if someone will get hurt or not... Revere has missed time for various injuries throughout his minor league career too.

John Bonnes
03-12-2012, 08:59 AM
I've never liked that contract and now it looks even worse. But I'm still optimistic Span will have a good 2012. His injuries last year were legitimate and it's not like he hasn't shown toughness in the past. I dont blame Span for his injuries; I blame the Twins for along term deal in which they got very little discount.

Plus, it's spring & Span had looked very aggressive so far. Let's get him healthy.

Fanatic Jack
03-12-2012, 09:28 AM
John,

Span is a tremendous player when he is healthy and that's a fact. However, sitting out two spring training games because of a stiff neck is pretty funny. Let's be totally honest, Gardenhire has coddled Span, Mauer, and Morneau so much all they have to do is say they are sore and they get a day or two off. No other manager walks through the clubhouse before a game and asks people if they want to play. The great ones (Scioscia, Madden, Leyland, and Ozzie) would never do that. It's time for a change!!

Jim H
03-12-2012, 10:02 AM
Jack,

Spring training is the time to sit out with minor injuries. You don't want to play through them and turn them into major injuries. I don't really mind your continual doom and gloom/Gardy can't do anything right shik, but you could temper in a little common sense.

mini_tb
03-12-2012, 11:05 AM
Denard Span is out with a stiff neck again. Span is becoming a Stiff............Ever since the Twins bought out his arbitration years he has been injured. Phil Mackey keeps telling everybody his contract is very managable and dirt cheap. I would agree with that statement if Span played more than 80 games a year. He has been as injury prone as Mauer & Morneau over the last seasons. Imagine that, this is when he signed his 4-year contract!! Starting to think the Twins missed their chance to unload him to Washington for an elite reliever like Drew Storen. I was against the trade but at some point you have to show some heart and play through some aches and soreness. I still think Ben Revere will be a very good player and should be in CF. Span is coddled by Gardy and Revere just shows up to play anywhere with a smile on his face.

I've also heard that Span kicks small puppies and runs a dog fighting ring.

Yes, Span missed 92 games in 2011, but he played 153 games in 2010 and 145 in 2009. The last time I checked both of those numbers were considered larger than 80.

Note: I might have made up the part about the puppies and dogs, so I could sound as preposterous as Jack.

asmus_ndsu
03-12-2012, 11:23 AM
John,

Span is a tremendous player when he is healthy and that's a fact. However, sitting out two spring training games because of a stiff neck is pretty funny. Let's be totally honest, Gardenhire has coddled Span, Mauer, and Morneau so much all they have to do is say they are sore and they get a day or two off. No other manager walks through the clubhouse before a game and asks people if they want to play. The great ones (Scioscia, Madden, Leyland, and Ozzie) would never do that. It's time for a change!!

While I agree Gardy does coddle guys a bit too much, its a double edged sword. How many teams (eg. Det or Bos), have had seasons where they were "supposed" to go really far and just end up getting marred by injuries and destroying their seasons because guys didnt get proper rest.

Shane Wahl
03-12-2012, 11:37 AM
So . . . has the game started?

Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 11:43 AM
0-0

Dozier has a triple and broken bat single. Pavano has been sharp(very sharp compared to Blackburn's 'sharp' yesterday).

Revere has 2 grounders to 2nd, one for a double play.

Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 11:45 AM
Some notes from a friend of mine watching the kids in FM today scrimmage:


Watching the Twins minor leaguers play against each other.

First inning. Goodrum walk and SB. Doesn't score. Kepler grounds out to end inning. Boer and Bashmore pitching. TK barking orders
Grimes single. Rosario fly out. Grimes CS with Sano up.
Sano playing third. Looks big. Has a nice arm.
Grimes error at SS on bad hop. Rosario E at second on bad play. Boer gets K to end inning.
Sano grounds hard to second on 1-2 pitch after TK yells to go up the middle. No score. Bashore looks decent.
Goodrum works another walk. Rosario makes a nice play up the middle for a force out.
R. Jimeniz k's to end inning
Kepler with a nice line drive single to left off of lefty. Good swing.
Kepler SB
Rosario flys out deep into the wind in CF. Sano pops to short. Goodrum looks smooth at short on a ground ball. Saw A. Morales fly out on the field next to me.

Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 11:54 AM
1-0 Rays. RBI single by Jennings, Revere can't throw the runner out, throw cut off and relayed.

Doumit can't throw out Jennings on a pitchout, high throw.

Shane Wahl
03-12-2012, 12:04 PM
Some notes from a friend of mine watching the kids in FM today scrimmage:


Watching the Twins minor leaguers play against each other.

First inning. Goodrum walk and SB. Doesn't score. Kepler grounds out to end inning. Boer and Bashmore pitching. TK barking orders
Grimes single. Rosario fly out. Grimes CS with Sano up.
Sano playing third. Looks big. Has a nice arm.
Grimes error at SS on bad hop. Rosario E at second on bad play. Boer gets K to end inning.
Sano grounds hard to second on 1-2 pitch after TK yells to go up the middle. No score. Bashore looks decent.
Goodrum works another walk. Rosario makes a nice play up the middle for a force out.
R. Jimeniz k's to end inning
Kepler with a nice line drive single to left off of lefty. Good swing.
Kepler SB
Rosario flys out deep into the wind in CF. Sano pops to short. Goodrum looks smooth at short on a ground ball. Saw A. Morales fly out on the field next to me.

Thanks for this. Goodrum and Kepler are really intriguing.

Shane Wahl
03-12-2012, 12:07 PM
1-0 Rays. RBI single by Jennings, Revere can't throw the runner out, throw cut off and relayed.

Doumit can't throw out Jennings on a pitchout, high throw.

I want to not hear anymore about Revere playing CF on a regular basis. He has a second baseman's arm and it is a problem with the organization that they never converted him (essentially flopping IF/OF with Plouffe, who is a much more atrocious example of the Twins somehow dropping the ball about defense in the minors)
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Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 12:09 PM
Doumit throws out a baserunner in the 4th

1-0 TB

Pavano 4IP 3H/R/BB/3K

John Bonnes
03-12-2012, 12:17 PM
You can always count on Farnsworth to make things interesting.

Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 12:19 PM
Hughes scores on infield hit by Revere,throwing error on Farnsworth.

Revere stole 2nd and moves to 3rd on another throwing error.

minn55441
03-12-2012, 12:24 PM
How many "A" games has Nishi Played? Is it just wishful thinking or are they really limiting his chances?

Fanatic Jack
03-12-2012, 12:25 PM
Does anybody know how Rosario looks defensively at 2B since the position change.

Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 12:27 PM
How many "A" games has Nishi Played? Is it just wishful thinking or are they really limiting his chances?

Strained pinky on left hand. Day to Day.

Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 12:28 PM
Does anybody know how Rosario looks defensively at 2B since the position change.

I asked my friend on the play he made an E, and said it was butchered pretty badly. But he came back with an above avg play later.

Harrison Greeley III
03-12-2012, 12:31 PM
Seth,

The season has not started yet. Span missed 101 games over the last two years. He played hurt during the second half of 2010 and deserves credit for being tough. However, I bet Revere won't ask for a day off or miss time due to injuries.

Wow! Sweet cherry picking right here. It beautifully hides the fact that he played 153 games in 2010, the year after he inked the contract.

He had a bad health year in 2011. He's still not yet 100%. But trying to play the 'HE'S NEVER HEALTHY!' card is pretty goofy at this point.

Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 12:33 PM
Perkins 2 hits/walk, fanned Zobrist to end the 5th. Still 1-1.

Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 12:49 PM
Still 1-1 thru sixth. Twins went 1-2-3, Dumatrait a scoreless inning.

Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 01:06 PM
A few other notes from my friend at FM:

Polanco just made a nice play at SS.
That game just got over. Watching the other one now. Dustin Martin just k's bad off a lefty.

Mr. Ed
03-12-2012, 01:08 PM
Bulger 1-2-3 inning. Lives another day.

Seth Stohs
03-12-2012, 01:22 PM
Based on a pretty solid, extensive track record, there was a pretty good chance that, unless he was hurt, Bulger would be pretty OK.

Shane Wahl
03-12-2012, 01:24 PM
A few other notes from my friend at FM:

Polanco just made a nice play at SS.
That game just got over. Watching the other one now. Dustin Martin just k's bad off a lefty.

So Dustin Martin is with the team, still? I have been totally confused about his status. I thought he was a free agent who didn't re-sign. Rochester is going to have about 10 OFs!

WYTwinsFan
03-12-2012, 01:43 PM
I'm not used to this "winning games by HRs" trend we've been seeing. I know it's just spring training but would be fun to see carry on to the regular season.

Twins Fan From Afar
03-12-2012, 01:44 PM
I'm not used to this "winning games by HRs" trend we've been seeing. I know it's just spring training but would be fun to see carry on to the regular season.

What happened?

WYTwinsFan
03-12-2012, 01:47 PM
Luke Hughes launched one in the top of the 10th! Twins lead 2-1 going into the bottom of the 10th.

chavez
03-12-2012, 02:34 PM
I don't think Span deserves to have his toughness questioned - The man had a concussion last year - nothing to mess around with. I think a better case could be made that Span is a pretty tough player - I'm looking for a big year from him.