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Seth Stohs
11-08-2012, 12:57 AM
You can view the page at http://www.twinsdaily.com/content.php?1157-Rock-the-Vote-Twins-Top-Pitchers-of-All-Time

Brandon
11-08-2012, 07:56 AM
Santana at the top followed by Blyleven, Viola, then Jack Morris (even though he pitched one season his last game puts him on the list alone). so far those guys were aces, Nathan was the ace closer then you move on to the number 2 types in your rotation starting with Kaat who is a borderline ace maybe even an ace i don't know for sure, then Radke, Perry and Tapani, then Aguilera.

I have to admit I am not as familiar with the 60's pitchers as much as the 80's and beyond.

Darin Bratsch
11-08-2012, 08:13 AM
1. Johan Santana
2. Bert Blyleven
3. Frank Viola
4. Camilio Pascual
5. Jim Kaat
6. Mudcat Grant
7. Joe Nathan
8. Jim Perry
9. Rick Aguilera
10. Jack Morris

sorry, Bob Tewksbury & Bobby Castillo

Seth Stohs
11-08-2012, 08:24 AM
Sorry, I just can't include a guy who was the 3rd best pitcher on that 1991 team. Yup, he had the great Game 7... no question about that.

Seth Stohs
11-08-2012, 08:35 AM
Alright, here's mine...

1.) Johan Santana, 2.) Jim Kaat, 3.) Bert Blyleven, 4.) Joe Nathan, 5.) Jim Perry, 6.) Brad Radke, 7.) Frank Viola, 8.) Camilo Pascual, 9.) Dave Goltz, 10.) Rick Aguilera.

Curt
11-08-2012, 09:36 AM
1. Santana - duh
2. Viola - ah, Sweet Music...
3. Blyleven - every start was a possible no-hitter
4. Radke - tough era, bad team, great pitcher
5. Reardon - the anti-RD
6. Kaat - when the pitcher really was the best athlete on the team
7. Nathan - automatic
8. Perry - no Gaylord but still...
9. Aguilera - boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl back. Classic.
10. Morris - YEAH, IT WAS THAT IMPORTANT.

Winston Smith
11-08-2012, 10:17 AM
Walter Johnson!

Talk about a year, 1913: 36-7, 1.14 era with 29 complete games. 346 innings, a .78 whip and a 259 era+.

Curt
11-08-2012, 10:28 AM
Walter Johnson!

Talk about a year, 1913: 36-7, 1.14 era with 29 complete games. 346 innings, a .78 whip and a 259 era+.
I see what you did there. Step to the front of the line, please.

DAM DC Twins Fans
11-08-2012, 11:09 AM
Top 3: Kaat, Bert andRadke

Next 3: Johan, Sweet Music and Mudcat,

The rest: Pscual, Goltz Tapani and Perry

YourHouseIsMyHouse
11-08-2012, 12:00 PM
1. Johan Santana 2. Jim Kaat 3. Bert Blyleven 4. Brad Radke 5. Joe Nathan 6. Jim Perry 7. Frank Viola 8. Rick Aguilera 9. Camilo Pascual 10. Dave Goltz

Fatt Crapps
11-08-2012, 12:29 PM
Top 3: Kaat, Bert andRadke

Next 3: Johan, Sweet Music and Mudcat,

The rest: Pscual, Goltz Tapani and Perry

Radke was better than Johan and Viola? Ok man..

nokomismod
11-08-2012, 03:24 PM
1. Johan 2. Jim Kaat 3. Viola 4. Bad Brad.

Maybe because Bad Brad was here through thick and thin, and was the guy willing to stick with a really bad team when he could have left.

jjswol
11-08-2012, 04:59 PM
1. Bert Blyleven
2. Jim Kaat
3. Jim Perry
4. Frank Viola
5. Johan Santana

This is a list I put together last year at http://twinstrivia.com/2011/10/28/my-twins-all-time-starting-five/

jwestbrock
11-08-2012, 05:53 PM
Santana
Blyleven
Kaat
Nathan
Radke
Aguilera
Perry
Viola
Pascual
Goltz

Thrylos
11-08-2012, 06:11 PM
This can be tricky...
Twins' top pitchers of all time (career numbers not only Twins' numbers; which will automatically have to include names like Steve Carlton)
Twins' top pitchers of all time (Twins' only numbers)
Twins' franchise top pitchers of all time (including the Senator years)

zchrz
11-08-2012, 07:18 PM
If based purely on performance that 1/2 a year of pre TJ Liriano is at least top 3 if not the best. Obviously that story went horribly wrong but damn was he nasty when he first came up.

h2oface
11-08-2012, 07:38 PM
1. Johan Santana
2. Jim Kaat (tie)
2. Bert Blyleven (tie)
4. Frank Viola
5. Joe Nathan

6. Camilo Pascual
7. Jim Perry
8. Brad Radke
9. Jim "Mudcat" Grant
10. Jack Morris - for the greatest twins' pitching performance... game 7 was the game.

i gotta stick with just the minnesota twins as the minnesota twins, and what they did as a member of the twins. no penalty for number of years on the twins.

Steve J
11-09-2012, 03:02 AM
Top 3: Kaat, Bert andRadke

Next 3: Johan, Sweet Music and Mudcat,

The rest: Pscual, Goltz Tapani and Perry

Is that you Dick Bremer?

Steve J
11-09-2012, 03:04 AM
Walter Johnson!

Talk about a year, 1913: 36-7, 1.14 era with 29 complete games. 346 innings, a .78 whip and a 259 era+.
I see what you did there. Step to the front of the line, please.

Yeah. I don't buy into the malarky of disowning history just because it wasn't local as seems to be the rage of conventional wisdom. The Twins/Senators are a historic franchise, not some lousy invention of the 60s

mnfanforlife
11-09-2012, 08:31 AM
Walter Johnson!

Talk about a year, 1913: 36-7, 1.14 era with 29 complete games. 346 innings, a .78 whip and a 259 era+.
I see what you did there. Step to the front of the line, please.

Yeah. I don't buy into the malarky of disowning history just because it wasn't local as seems to be the rage of conventional wisdom. The Twins/Senators are a historic franchise, not some lousy invention of the 60s


Right, they are the same franchise. But the list specifically says "Twins Top Pitchers of All-Time." I love baseball history though, so it was refreshing to see the "Big Train's" stat line for '13, even though it wasn't pitched in a Twins' uniform. Imagine if some wacko put up numbers like that in 2013...he would be MVP/Cy Young and people would swear he's on PED's

mnfanforlife
11-09-2012, 08:36 AM
Santana was widely known as the best pitcher "in the game" during his successful years in Minnesota. None of these other guys were ever considered the Ace of Aces in the major leagues. There is no way a list of Twins' all-time-greatest-pitchers doesn't start with Santana rated #1 overall.

ping3woodguy
11-09-2012, 02:53 PM
1.) Johan Santana, 2.) Camilo Pascual, 3.) Bert Blyleven, 4.) Here kitty kitty, Jim Kaat, 5.) Joe Nathan, 6.) Jim Perry, 7.) Frank Viola, 8.) Jack Morris, 9.) Brad Radke, 10.) Jack Morris 11.) The all to short runs of dominance of Scott Erickson (first half of 1991, Francisco Liriano 3 months of 2006.

Jim H
11-10-2012, 09:45 AM
1) Kaat, 2) Santana, 3) Blyleven, 4) Perry, 5) Radke), 6) Goltz, 7) Pascual-probably should be higher especially if you include Washington years, 8) Viola, 9) Nathan, 10) Worthington, Chance, Tapani, Aguilera

Physics Guy
11-10-2012, 12:44 PM
1) Santanta 2) Blyleven 3) Kaat 4) Perry 5) Viola 6) Pascual 7) Radke 8) Goltz 9) Nathan 10) Aguilera

Steve J
11-10-2012, 04:01 PM
Walter Johnson!

Talk about a year, 1913: 36-7, 1.14 era with 29 complete games. 346 innings, a .78 whip and a 259 era+.
I see what you did there. Step to the front of the line, please.

Yeah. I don't buy into the malarky of disowning history just because it wasn't local as seems to be the rage of conventional wisdom. The Twins/Senators are a historic franchise, not some lousy invention of the 60s


Right, they are the same franchise. But the list specifically says "Twins Top Pitchers of All-Time." ................

Yes, I know, but I'm not going to enable that sort of selective use of history...

beckmt
11-15-2012, 11:08 PM
Santana only had 4 or 5 good to great years with the Twins, this does not a career make. I would rank Blyleven 1 and Kaat 2. Santana comes in at 3. 4 Viola 5. Jim Perry 6. Nathan 7. Aggie 8. Pascual (only because most of his career was with the Senators). 9. Mudcat Grant 10. Morris - I agree it was this important