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John Bonnes
10-26-2012, 05:57 PM
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ScottyB
10-26-2012, 06:21 PM
I would love to package Morneau and Span to the Rangers maybe with Hendricks or Hermson for Derek Holland and a low level pospect or two. Then take the Morneau money for a free agent pitcher.

johnnydakota
10-26-2012, 07:01 PM
why? a career 4.71 era , thats worse then marquis

johnnydakota
10-26-2012, 07:05 PM
texas is looking to find starting catching , why not pawn smokin joe on them for say profar and olt, maybe throw in hermsen and escobar
then trade morneau to toronto with liam hendriks and herrmenn for dárnaud , that would free up 37 million give us a quality left side of the infield and a offensive catcher , with the money we could make a run at grienke and sanchez and still have some jingle in pohlads jeans

Thrylos
10-26-2012, 07:36 PM
Agreed up to a point. The Twins have to get a young starting pitcher with upside in return for Morneau, even if they have to package an OF prospect. And they have to get a SP for Span and they have to sign a decent FA SP. They are not just one free agent away...

johnnydakota
10-26-2012, 08:54 PM
Agreed up to a point. The Twins have to get a young starting pitcher with upside in return for Morneau, even if they have to package an OF prospect. And they have to get a SP for Span and they have to sign a decent FA SP. They are not just one free agent away...
with pittsburg looking for a corner outfielder willingham goes there for cole and taillon
each of these 2 kids have the stuff to be aces cole hits triple digets and has 3 solid pitches and taillon has 4 pitches and hits 97mph ,for these 2 pitchers i would give up willingham benson hermsen slama,burnnet and florimon
in reality the twins cant win until they either up the payroll to 125-130 million or tear it down and rebuild

Physics Guy
10-26-2012, 09:06 PM
If you are trolling it worked. You think Texas will give us arguably their top two prospects for a catcher who is trending out of the position and makes $23M? Keith Law has Profar as the #1 prospect in the minors overall. Jon Daniels would hang up the phone immediately if offered that trade. I'm skeptical he'd give Profar straight up for Mauer. I suppose you want them to trade Gardy for Washington too?

johnnydakota
10-26-2012, 09:10 PM
yes please gardy for washington throw in drew also ,yes we might have to give up some depth from the minors like goodrum and a pitcher or benson or bigley or..but wouldnt it be worth it to have the left side set?

Physics Guy
10-26-2012, 09:11 PM
If you want a SS from Texas, better to go after Andrus. They might listen regarding him. I was thinking the Twins should go after him. Then they would have a middle infielder actually capable of batting second (.350 OBP) with speed for the top of the order as Gardy likes it. I'm just not sure what the Twins could offer that would be acceptable to them.

johnnydakota
10-26-2012, 09:15 PM
texas is in a must win now situation, id be happy with elvis and olt , for joe and harrison

YourHouseIsMyHouse
10-26-2012, 09:23 PM
I'm worried he becomes elite again. That's why I'd wait more time until the trade deadline to make up our minds. It's pretty hard to imagine that his value can get lower.

greengoblinrulz
10-26-2012, 10:07 PM
why? a career 4.71 era , thats worse then marquis
I LOVE Holland and his potential. I predict he's gonna be a future Cy Young type pitcher.
Holland has struggled pitching in Arlington (5.34ERA w/ .822OPS) and would flourish in a pitchers park (4.08road ERA .702OPS).
I would pretty much allow anything within reason to get him.

righty8383
10-26-2012, 10:54 PM
with pittsburg looking for a corner outfielder willingham goes there for cole and taillon
each of these 2 kids have the stuff to be aces cole hits triple digets and has 3 solid pitches and taillon has 4 pitches and hits 97mph ,for these 2 pitchers i would give up willingham benson hermsen slama,burnnet and florimon
in reality the twins cant win until they either up the payroll to 125-130 million or tear it down and rebuild

Unless Terry Ryan has incriminating pictures of the Pirates' GM, we are not getting either of those guys....much less both.

Kwak
10-26-2012, 11:25 PM
I think Morneau should be traded. But I firmly believe that he is worth major league talent. While the thread mentioned that even receiving nothing serves as a fine "salary dump", that sort of trade (cf Young or Hardy) is downright foolish. Morneau is highly likely to receive a qualifying offer from any team the Twins trade him to--that's a compensation round selection (high 2nd rounder if you please) as well as his services for 2013. I think that the Twins should focus on teams that want to make a splash either now--or soon. Texas is one, but Seattle is an even better choice. Seattle has been a cellar-dweller for too long, they have lots of young pitching, have a huge need for offense, and have performed their own "salary surgery" by trading Ichiro. Also, note that Morneau is a native of BC might be more inclined to sign a contract extention with Seattle which provides a higher measure of assurance to SEA that they will have Morneau for several years. I think the Twins could fetch a tidier sum from Seattle than from Texas.

kab21
10-26-2012, 11:51 PM
Moving incumbent Justin Morneau would not only make space for Parmelee, but free up $14 million to purchase starting pitching in a free agent market thick with it. Even if the Twins received nothing in return, that’s enough money to sign any starter except Zach Greinke. Ask yourself, would you trade Morneau for Jake Peavy, Dan Haren, or Anibal Sanchez? If you would, it makes sense to trade away Morneau for nothing more than a bag of bricks.

This is a pretty poor argument and article imo. None of these pitchers will cost 14M for ONE YEAR. They will all get 12-15M for 3-5 years. As far as the Twins payroll is concerned they can keep Morneau and add one of these pitchers w/o coming close to 100M next season. So the argument really becomes trading Morneau and signing two of these pitchers which ties up 75-125M of payroll for the next 4-5 seasons.

I'm all for trading Morneau if a legimately good offer comes along but I wouldn't hold my breath considering that he makes 14M, looks average and he has injury concerns. tbh I think Morneau will be as productive as Willingham next season and Willingham carries far more trade value.

TheLeviathan
10-27-2012, 09:04 AM
I'm all for trading Morneau if a legimately good offer comes along but I wouldn't hold my breath considering that he makes 14M, looks average and he has injury concerns. tbh I think Morneau will be as productive as Willingham next season and Willingham carries far more trade value.

Yup, if you want to maximize trade value and open a spot for Parmalee - trade Willingham. That's been the best play since July.

John Bonnes
10-27-2012, 09:15 AM
None of these pitchers will cost 14M for ONE YEAR. They will all get 12-15M for 3-5 years. As far as the Twins payroll is concerned they can keep Morneau and add one of these pitchers w/o coming close to 100M next season. So the argument really becomes trading Morneau and signing two of these pitchers which ties up 75-125M of payroll for the next 4-5 seasons.


You're obviously right about the one year thing - but Morneau's salary is gone after this year, too. Plus, there are added TV revenues. The Twins are gaining more flexibility, not less, in the next few seasons. Being able to afford one of those contracts in 2013 is by far the biggest barrier.

As for the chunk of payroll tied up for the next few years, - yeah, that's right. Personally, I might prefer getting one of these guys and signing two more at the next tier, but either way, I'm fine with it.

The problem is that the Twins simply don't have much pitching to promote to the starting rotation in their minors, probably until at least 2015. Gibson, hopefully comes back, maybe Hendriks hangs onto a late rotation spot and maybe Wimmers comes back from Tommy John in 2014. And all three are question marks. I'd love to see two big names under contract, and especially signing them this year, when their contracts are going to be slightly more reasonable.

Kwak
10-27-2012, 09:51 AM
Moving incumbent Justin Morneau would not only make space for Parmelee, but free up $14 million to purchase starting pitching in a free agent market thick with it. Even if the Twins received nothing in return, that’s enough money to sign any starter except Zach Greinke. Ask yourself, would you trade Morneau for Jake Peavy, Dan Haren, or Anibal Sanchez? If you would, it makes sense to trade away Morneau for nothing more than a bag of bricks.

This is a pretty poor argument and article imo. None of these pitchers will cost 14M for ONE YEAR. They will all get 12-15M for 3-5 years. As far as the Twins payroll is concerned they can keep Morneau and add one of these pitchers w/o coming close to 100M next season. So the argument really becomes trading Morneau and signing two of these pitchers which ties up 75-125M of payroll for the next 4-5 seasons.

I'm all for trading Morneau if a legimately good offer comes along but I wouldn't hold my breath considering that he makes 14M, looks average and he has injury concerns. tbh I think Morneau will be as productive as Willingham next season and Willingham carries far more trade value.
Fair enough. Based on your assumption of Morneau's projected 2013 performance, what should the Twins do after the season and Morneau's contract ends? Compete in the open market to retain his services? Make a qualifying offer and hope he declines and signs elsewhere to obtain a supplemental draft choice?--and what if he does accept said qualifying offer? Any team that has Morneau for the entire season can obtain compensation under the above mentioned conditions. A trade after the season starts--and no compensation if he signs elsewhere. In short, I'm asking is a supplemental draft choice and his services for next season worth more than trading him (personnel recieved and personnel that can be added due to his $14M salary)?

diehardtwinsfan
10-27-2012, 09:53 AM
Morneau is my favorite Twin, though I do think trading him would be wise. I've argued it will make the most sense at the deadline, as I suspect he will continue to improve.

That said, if they can get a decent pitcher for him, and then use the 14M to go after another decent pitcher, I'd say more power to them. I think Parmalee can put up the same line Morneau did last year and could possibly exceed it (though I think Morneau will beat that line next year with a normal offseason and a normal April/May). It certainly isn't a bad idea.

Brandon
10-27-2012, 11:09 AM
If you trade Morneau then Span will definately stay until one of the minor league OF prospects Hicks or Arcia are deemed ready. The OF will be Span, Revere, and Willingham and 1B Parmelee/ Mauer. There is only one prospect that is currently ready to come up right now and the best use of resources IMO is to trade from our surplus Span or Revere. I think you can maximize the return better by trading Span freeing up 4.75 million or so and if you need to wait until nest July for Morneau then so be it. I wonder if they could extend Morneau and restructure his current contract in the process. 3 year 33 million extension at 11 per year?

gunnarthor
10-27-2012, 11:28 AM
I think there are a lot of reasons a Morneau trade won't happen.

1) He's insanely popular with the fan base, the Twins can't just dump his salary. They'd need to get a great package in return and I'm not sure that's out there.
2) Parmelee might not be a legit MLer. He might be but if he puts up a 80 OPS+ next year, trading Morneau was a horrible move.
3) Mauer, Willingham, Morneau is a legit 3-4-5 right now. My guess is the FO would rather build around that by moving other parts (Span) and making a few FA additions.
4) Touched on it in #1 but Morneau's return probably isn't going to be worth it. We won't get an absolute stud back. We might get a solid AA prospect or a current ML back of the rotation pitcher. If we hang onto Morneau and the team flops again, he would very likely have more value at the trade deadline than right now. My guess is that is what the FO does.

Montecore
10-27-2012, 11:43 AM
Morneau showed a lot the last few weeks and I think he's set for a very good year. Parmalee, on the other hand, has shown nothing, so keep Morneau and trade Parmalee. Against trading Span or Willingham as well. They wont get anything close in return , it would be legitimate foolishness to do so.

ahart10
10-27-2012, 12:22 PM
If you want a SS from Texas, better to go after Andrus. They might listen regarding him. I was thinking the Twins should go after him. Then they would have a middle infielder actually capable of batting second (.350 OBP) with speed for the top of the order as Gardy likes it. I'm just not sure what the Twins could offer that would be acceptable to them.
I agreee. Andrus is already a proven player. He and Span are both plus up the middle defenders and are comparable at the plate. Both teams have new guys coming up, Revere and Profar. We have had a whole at SS FOREVER and their CF is gonna leave through free agency.

Riverbrian
10-27-2012, 01:26 PM
I really think Seattle is about to go into searching for offense mode. If not this year... Next year for sure. King Felix will be joined by that trio of starters Hultzen, Walker and Paxton and if they become what they can become... The Mariners will be a team to fear shortly down the road. It's a question of timing your offensive push to their devolopment.

However, I seriously doubt that the Mariners will cough up any of those young pitchers or risk chasing it's tail like a dog. It seems it would make more sense for Seattle to wait for 2014 to try and sign Justin as a free agent. I could be wrong... I probably am.

Physics Guy
10-27-2012, 01:31 PM
I agree that they might have interest in Span, but in no way is that enough to seal the deal. Just a guess here, but Span, Arcia and Hermsen might do it, but that probably isn't enough.

Physics Guy
10-27-2012, 01:34 PM
I was also thinking Seattle might be a good trade target. Morneau plus an OF prospect might do it. With Morneau's contract I doubt he is enough. As John said at the beginning, anything we can get plus clearing his salary will help. Seattle definitely needs some offense.

YourHouseIsMyHouse
10-27-2012, 02:58 PM
Contrary to the Washington Post bias, LaRoche is not 'legitimately good'. They are none on the free agent market.

glunn
10-27-2012, 03:18 PM
This is an interesting discussion. I would hate to lose Morneau, but the Twins need pitching.

gilesferrell
10-27-2012, 03:22 PM
Contrary to the Washington Post bias, LaRoche is not 'legitimately good'. They are none on the free agent market.

Are you kidding?! .271, 33 HR, and 100 RBI does not count as legitimately good?

Thrylos
10-27-2012, 07:04 PM
Morneau showed a lot the last few weeks and I think he's set for a very good year. Parmalee, on the other hand, has shown nothing, so keep Morneau and trade Parmalee. Against trading Span or Willingham as well. They wont get anything close in return , it would be legitimate foolishness to do so.

Indeed
that guy does not exist.

And...
the status quo lost 95+ games the last 2 seasons. Got to change something, don't you think?

one_eyed_jack
10-27-2012, 07:38 PM
Here's my problem with the various "let's trade Span/Morneau/Mauer/Willingham pitching" problem: the offense is decent, and potentially good, but it won't be anymore if you trade away the guys at the top of the order.

Dealing Morneau now is selling low. And selling low as been part of what has gotten the Twins here. They have rarely sold high. They have either sold low (e.g. Delmon and Hardy) or simply let guys walk away (Cuddyer, Kubel, Nathan, Hunter).

Thrylos
10-27-2012, 08:22 PM
Dealing Morneau now is selling low. .

ok
just some perspective here.
in 2012

Justin Morneau hit:
.267/.333/.440, 19 HR, 77 RBI
for the Twins making $14MM

and Delmon Young hit:

.267/.296/.411, 18 HR, 74 RBI
for the Tigers

not that much different.
(speaking of selling low...)

diehardtwinsfan
10-27-2012, 08:37 PM
Selling low on Morneau would have been trading him last year at this point. I tend to think his value will only increase as next season goes on, so generally I say keep him until the deadline. That said, if someone were to offer a higer upside minor league pitcher for him, you do it, especially if that means there's an extra 14M available to go out and get one of the better starters out there.

Brock Beauchamp
10-27-2012, 08:46 PM
Justin Morneau hit:
.267/.333/.440, 19 HR, 77 RBI
for the Twins making $14MM

and Delmon Young hit:

.267/.296/.411, 18 HR, 74 RBI
for the Tigers

not that much different.
(speaking of selling low...)

Since when is an 89 OPS+ "not that much different" from a 113 OPS+?

gunnarthor
10-27-2012, 08:50 PM
Dealing Morneau now is selling low. .

ok
just some perspective here.
in 2012

Justin Morneau hit:
.267/.333/.440, 19 HR, 77 RBI
for the Twins making $14MM

and Delmon Young hit:

.267/.296/.411, 18 HR, 74 RBI
for the Tigers

not that much different.
(speaking of selling low...)

Only if you're looking in a vacuum. Let's see what happens if we look at ballpark adjustments and WAR. One was 113 OPS+ and .9 WAR and the other was 87 OPS+ and -1.2 WAR. One has a history of being a good player, one doesn't. One seems to be coming back from injury to become a good player again. The other is a bad player.

mike wants wins
10-27-2012, 11:29 PM
John, I agree.

one_eyed_jack
10-28-2012, 12:43 AM
Dealing Morneau now is selling low. .

ok
just some perspective here.
in 2012

Justin Morneau hit:
.267/.333/.440, 19 HR, 77 RBI
for the Twins making $14MM

and Delmon Young hit:

.267/.296/.411, 18 HR, 74 RBI
for the Tigers

not that much different.
(speaking of selling low...)

---I don't see how this is even relevant to anything I said, much less adds perspective.

Boys of Summer
10-28-2012, 08:04 AM
So much pie in the sky thinking here. First, Texas is looking to deal Andrus for DAVID PRICE, not saying it will happen but just giving an idea of how far off some thinking is here. Morneau is overpaid for the production he brings at this stage of his career. Also, no one will trade elite, contollable prospects for him. The Pittsburgh idea has no conception of worth or the mentality of the other team. One of the only ones talking sense here is the original author who says give him up for essentially nothing (except to sign a 2nd sp). A good but non-elite AA is probably the best the Twins can obtain. I think (if) the Twins get a AA prospect and are able to sign a second sp @ $14 million it is a good baseball move to trade Morneau.

kab21
10-28-2012, 08:10 AM
You're obviously right about the one year thing - but Morneau's salary is gone after this year, too. Plus, there are added TV revenues. The Twins are gaining more flexibility, not less, in the next few seasons. Being able to afford one of those contracts in 2013 is by far the biggest barrier.


There is zero barrier to signing any of the pitchers in FA. The Twins can spend close to 30M before they hit the 100M with Morneau on the roster. The only real barrier is that you're likely committing big dollars to a declining 30 something starter. I've shown in a recent thread that is not good investment but that doesn't change that the Twins can afford it w/o dumping Morneau.


Fair enough. Based on your assumption of Morneau's projected 2013 performance, what should the Twins do after the season and Morneau's contract ends? Compete in the open market to retain his services? Make a qualifying offer and hope he declines and signs elsewhere to obtain a supplemental draft choice?--and what if he does accept said qualifying offer? Any team that has Morneau for the entire season can obtain compensation under the above mentioned conditions. A trade after the season starts--and no compensation if he signs elsewhere. In short, I'm asking is a supplemental draft choice and his services for next season worth more than trading him (personnel recieved and personnel that can be added due to his $14M salary)?

1) The first thing I DON'T do is dump him this offseason. John tried to make it sound like he's a player in demand but that just isn't true. He's an avg hitting first baseman with injury issues making 14M. The only way the Twins get a halfway decent prospect (ranked in the Twins top 10-20) is if they pick up at least half of the contract. I'm sorry but that's just silly. At that point you might as well keep him and keep the fans happy.

2) To answer all of your other questions. Try to trade him at the deadline if he keeps rebounding. If not then decide if he's worth a qualifying offer or a new (reduced) deal based on his 2013. Maybe you get nothing for him (other than a fan favorite and a solid player for a year) but dumping him AND paying a team to take him would be foolish.

SenatorsGuy
10-28-2012, 08:55 AM
Lets trade all of our crappy guys and huge contract guys for all of the the elite, major-league ready prospects in baseball.

TheLeviathan
10-28-2012, 12:02 PM
Lets trade all of our crappy guys and huge contract guys for all of the the elite, major-league ready prospects in baseball.

Hooray offseason analysis! You just saved us saved us several dozen inane threads! Your work will not soon be forgotten, thank you sir.

jredasse
10-28-2012, 02:37 PM
Still not sold on Parmelee at first base.....If they can get a "decent, solid" starter for Morneau, it may be a good move.... but in the mean time, who takes over 1st Base????
Still need some hitting to win some games.......

SgtSchmidt11
10-28-2012, 04:19 PM
I agree that they might have interest in Span, but in no way is that enough to seal the deal. Just a guess here, but Span, Arcia and Hermsen might do it, but that probably isn't enough.
If this is about trading for Andrus, I would hope the Twins tell the Rangers to pack sand. No way Span and Arcia = Andrus.

beckmt
10-28-2012, 06:03 PM
I am more in trading Span and Parmalee to a cost concious team for pitching. We would have to eat some of Morneau's salary and still not get the return we want.

Danchat
10-28-2012, 07:10 PM
I am more in trading Span and Parmalee to a cost concious team for pitching. We would have to eat some of Morneau's salary and still not get the return we want.

Then why trade away Parmalee if we don't get a return we want? Morneau will be gone after 2013, so why send Parmalee away, who'll likely become a solid 1B? If we're trading Parmalee...we better get someone good. Someone who will be good for awhile with the Twins.

Brandon
10-28-2012, 07:11 PM
I think you let Parmalee play RF at the start of next season. if he hits well then he could be a good trade chip. Also if Profar proves he is ready and around July or after next season, there could be a trade potential for Andrus at that time. Parmalee and ? for Andrus.

Also if Morneau hits well and stays healthy he will get signed to an extension. His wife is from Minnesota and he is established here why would he want to go somewhere else if he gets paid decently and we are competetive.

ericchri
10-29-2012, 07:57 AM
I'm onboard with trading Morneau, but I'm not sure you're getting any value from him right now. I think I'd be inclined to trade him and eat some of his salary for a couple A-ball flamethrowers and hope one of them pans out. Honestly, I think I'd probably be more inclined to hold onto him until the deadline next year to see where things stand in hopes his value increases (or the Twins are in contention). Signing 3 FA pitchers to semi-long-term deals seems almost guaranteed to have one of them bust.

Finding playing time for Parmelee means one of Morneau/Span/Revere/Willingham has to go. Or, god forbid, actually using management skills and finding a rotation amongst those 5 plus Doumit and Mauer which gives everybody an occasional game off. I know somebody posted it somewhere on the board previously, but I'm too lazy to look for it. With 3 OF spots, C, 1B, and DH you have 6 positions to fill with 7 players. It wouldn't seem far-fetched to believe you could set it up so each of those guys gets a day off each week instead of jerking Parmelee around (plus you actually have a semi-legit PH option for every game). Then again, I'll be shocked if Span isn't traded this offseason, so the problem goes away (sort of, until Hicks/Arcia are ready).

Dilligaf69
10-29-2012, 09:30 AM
texas is looking to find starting catching , why not pawn smokin joe on them for say profar and olt, maybe throw in hermsen and escobar
then trade morneau to toronto with liam hendriks and herrmenn for dárnaud , that would free up 37 million give us a quality left side of the infield and a offensive catcher , with the money we could make a run at grienke and sanchez and still have some jingle in pohlads jeans


Ok....for the 10 millionth time...the Twins are NOT trading Joe Mauer!!!! and porobably couldn't if they wanted to. Why do people continue to concern themselves with things that have little or in this case likely NO chance of happening. BTW what Sanchez are you talking about...not the one who failed with K.C I hope??

Dilligaf69
10-29-2012, 09:33 AM
I agree we probably hang onto Morneau until the dealine and hope he stays healthy and then get a bigger return. Unless they get a great offer this winter this is what probably will happen.

Dilligaf69
10-29-2012, 09:34 AM
I agree that they might have interest in Span, but in no way is that enough to seal the deal. Just a guess here, but Span, Arcia and Hermsen might do it, but that probably isn't enough.
If this is about trading for Andrus, I would hope the Twins tell the Rangers to pack sand. No way Span and Arcia = Andrus.



Oh God NO!!!!

gil4
10-29-2012, 01:41 PM
While the thread mentioned that even receiving nothing serves as a fine "salary dump", that sort of trade (cf Young or Hardy) is downright foolish.

Young? Who is he? (Don't miss him a bit. We won that trade.)

The Hardy trade was foolish, not because we dumped the salary, but because we had no viable alternative. After we dumped the salary, we turned around a signed Nishi for slightly less than it would have cost to sign Hardy. It was a major gamble that bombed and left us without a shortstop.

First base is usually easier to fill because the defensive demands are much less. I'm not sure what we have in Parmalee, but I think he's a better gamble than Nishi was. Mauer can sub there some. I bet Doumit could as well. I know Willingham is pretty limited defensively, but has he ever played first?

If Morneau was a free agent right now, would you give him $14M? I think my answer is no, but i'm not sure.

Siehbiscuit
10-29-2012, 01:58 PM
My first question for EVERYONE here is..."How can we address our weaknesses the quickest?"

Trading Morneau will NOT get us a great prospect, because his value is too low. He has the potential to become very good again, but the potential to never recover is likely just as high.

Quality pitching HAS to be addressed in FA. Span, Willingham or Morneau will not produce elite pitching unless we are willing to wait until 2015 or later to see them.

Pitching, middle infield AND even 3B is a bigger priority than doing something with our first baseman. If it was guarnteed that the Pohlads would spend the $14 million on a proven FA then I wouldn't mind a salary dump. History has shown us that the Pohlads don't operate like that. Keep Morneau and hope he can regain his old form to move him at the deadline or to re-sign to an extension. Trading him gets us nothing for 2013.

mike wants wins
10-29-2012, 03:10 PM
Is it more or less likely Ryan spends money on free agent pitching if he has Justin's salary on the books?

diehardtwinsfan
10-29-2012, 05:50 PM
Given the needs, trading Morneau or Span for AA pitching is not necessarily a bad idea. It might mean a few 1 year prove it deals over the next year or two, but given the derth of pitching in the high minors, it isn't a bad option.