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John Bonnes
10-22-2012, 12:35 PM
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ltwedt
10-22-2012, 01:23 PM
Be great to see Bruno again - Huge welcome to Steinbach, - Didn't Scotty fail at third before ???

Seth Stohs
10-22-2012, 01:30 PM
Ullger will be at 1B with Vavra getting 3B. (Corrected in article)

Ullger has failed as a lot of things so far (3B coach, hitting coach, bench coach)... we'll see if he's capable of failing as 1B coach too.

ChiTownTwinsFan
10-22-2012, 02:18 PM
I really don't get the love for Ullger. If it had been me, he'd have been gone after the 3rd base coaching experiment. His 'windmilling' guys around when they had no chance was just bad on so many levels. I will SCREAM if he is around, still, because he's going to be Gardy's replacement some day. I hope they aren't that stupid.

Dilligaf69
10-22-2012, 02:30 PM
Can you screw up 1B coach????? no waving guys around there. Really it's no big deal!

Pius Jefferson
10-22-2012, 02:41 PM
Did I miss something or is Gene Glynn still managing in Rochester?

ScottyB
10-22-2012, 02:55 PM
Did I miss something or is Gene Glynn still managing in Rochester?

Yes he stays put in Rochester

Jim Crikket
10-22-2012, 02:57 PM
Did I miss something or is Gene Glynn still managing in Rochester?

I believe that Red Wings beat reporter Jim Mandelaro tweeted that Jim Rantz confirmed to him that Glynn would be returning to Rochester to manage in 2013.

Kwak
10-22-2012, 03:06 PM
If Glynn were a coach with the Twins wouldn't he undermine Gardenhire as the losses mount (and they will lose early and often!). Others might look to Glynn for what "he thinks" as the season unfolds--that type of organization is unhealthy.

ChiTownTwinsFan
10-22-2012, 03:13 PM
Can you screw up 1B coach????? no waving guys around there. Really it's no big deal!

The point is he shouldn't even still be around. Period. Imo.

nicksaviking
10-22-2012, 03:16 PM
Ullger's still under contract, the Twins are't exactly the free spending type that fire's a coach and eats his salary.

Seth Stohs
10-22-2012, 03:26 PM
Ullger's still under contract, the Twins are't exactly the free spending type that fire's a coach and eats his salary.

His contract was up after the season. No salary to eat.

ScottyBroco
10-22-2012, 03:49 PM
My favorite part about this is the joke that Patrick Reusse said on twitter today about Terry Steinbach leaving Wayzata Baseball team as a assistant to join the twins.


Patrick Reusse ‏@1500ESPN_Reusse (https://twitter.com/1500ESPN_Reusse)
Pay cut? @PMac21 (https://twitter.com/PMac21) @LakeMinnPatch (https://twitter.com/LakeMinnPatch) Steinbach current an assistant at Wayzata H.S.

teekz
10-22-2012, 03:59 PM
...Ullger has failed as a lot of things so far (3B coach, hitting coach, bench coach)... we'll see if he's capable of failing as 1B coach too.

Best Comment Ever!

Winston Smith
10-22-2012, 04:23 PM
Can you screw up 1B coach????? no waving guys around there. Really it's no big deal!

Well Jerry White got fired he must have screwed something up.

Jim Crikket
10-22-2012, 05:40 PM
Can you screw up 1B coach????? no waving guys around there. Really it's no big deal!

Well Jerry White got fired he must have screwed something up.

Yeah, he didn't spend nearly enough time bowling with Gardy. I think Jerry was just a victim of a numbers game. I suspect Gardy was allowed to keep half his staff and got to choose which 3 stayed.

LaBombo
10-22-2012, 06:06 PM
Can you screw up 1B coach????? no waving guys around there. Really it's no big deal!

If there's a way to screw it up, Ullger will find it.

And it's a big deal because every piece of institutional culture that you preserve from a regime that hasn't won a playoff series in a decade and has racked up nearly 200 losses in the two highest payroll seasons in its history represents a 'business as usual' attitude that's likely to keep failing.

The new hires are probably a good start, but they all represent some level of the comfort of familiarity as well. It gives me the feeling they're there to keep Gardy happy rather than shake things up. Hope I'm wrong. We'll see.

Montecore
10-22-2012, 06:26 PM
So long as Hire remains the mgr. they will lose and lose big. The changes are better than nothing, but not by much.

SpantheMan
10-22-2012, 11:27 PM
Since the twins didn't renew the contracts of Gardy or Anderson, I'm assuming following another 90-loss campaign they would be let go. But what about an 85 loses? .500? Or does he have to win 85 games to keep his job?

Brock Beauchamp
10-23-2012, 09:03 AM
Since the twins didn't renew the contracts of Gardy or Anderson, I'm assuming following another 90-loss campaign they would be let go. But what about an 85 loses? .500? Or does he have to win 85 games to keep his job?

If the Twins come back in 2013 and post an 80-85 win season, I'm almost certain that Gardenhire keeps his job. That's a huge turnaround.

I'd say anything under 75 is considered a failure and 75-80 is pretty murky territory.

Jim Crikket
10-23-2012, 10:29 AM
If the Twins are about a .500 team, then Gardy's job will depend on WHY they were a .500 team.

If, despite roster improvements, there continue to be critical injuries and .500 is seen as a pretty good result, he may get the opportunity to stay.

But if Ryan feels he's assembled a competitive roster and there are few injury issues, he may not see .500 as being satisfactory.

The last two years, Ryan's been able to rationalize that Gardy's had to pretty much deal with a roster that Bill Smith was largely responsible for and there have been some pretty critical injuries on top of that. But in 2013, this roster will be pretty much 100% Terry Ryan's doing. If the GM thinks he's done a good job of assembling talent and the team doesn't compete, the manager is going to be viewed as responsible. That's just the way things go.

twinsfan214
10-23-2012, 04:29 PM
When will new RedWings coaches be named?

kydoty
10-23-2012, 05:41 PM
Look forward to the inevitable Twins player getting thrown out at 2nd base over a routine base hit to the outfield.