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Brock Beauchamp
09-12-2012, 03:40 PM
Twins:
Denard Span CF
Ben Revere RF
Josh Willingham DH
Justin Morneau 1B
Ryan Doumit LF
Jamey Carroll 3B
Alexi Casilla 2B
Drew Butera C
Pedro Florimon SS
(P.J. Walters P)

Royals:
David Lough RF
Alcides Escobar SS
Alex Gordon LF
Billy Butler DH
Salvador Perez C
Mike Moustakas 3B
Lorenzo Cain CF
Eric Hosmer 1B
Johnny Giavotella 2B
(Luke Hochevar P)

PseudoSABR
09-12-2012, 06:40 PM
I'm really glad Span is playing before the season expires. Let's hope he can finish it out.

Brock Beauchamp
09-12-2012, 07:47 PM
Span right back at it. Good to see.

snepp
09-12-2012, 08:06 PM
Sweet, we're getting the "good" Hochaver tonight.

USAFChief
09-12-2012, 09:20 PM
Nothing makes me love Gardy more than sac bunting in the 6th.

jokin
09-12-2012, 09:53 PM
Delmon Doumit in LF!

Even D Young could never achieve the "hat trick".

twinsnorth49
09-12-2012, 09:54 PM
And.......we're done with Doumit in LF, yes?....Good Lord!

glunn
09-12-2012, 10:20 PM
Another sickening and humiliating loss. I see now way that the Twins are going to be decent next year -- it seems to me that the losing mentality has sunk in too deep.

jokin
09-12-2012, 10:35 PM
Another sickening and humiliating loss. I see now way that the Twins are going to be decent next year -- it seems to me that the losing mentality has sunk in too deep.

They need games like this to hit rock bottom. The ownership has to stop the rationalizing and make the necessary and sweeping changes. This is 2 very bad teams playing, one playing with a purposeful motion, the other going through the motions purposelessly- at home- and nary a boo from the fans. Whose "prospects" look like they care about their future career opportunities?

one_eyed_jack
09-12-2012, 10:39 PM
I liked it a lot better when our biggest complaint was 3-and-out in the playoffs. There were some fun Septembers in the 00's.

Detroit held on to beat the Whities and pull within 1 game, setting up the huge Verlander/Sale showdown tomorrow.

One of those teams will go home at the end of the year, the other will likely get bounced in the first round. But either of those is infinitely better than this abortion of a season.

IdahoPilgrim
09-12-2012, 10:39 PM
And the magic number is down to 3.

TheLeviathan
09-12-2012, 11:23 PM
Watching Doumit play LF really makes me question those september call-ups again. If you're willing to sacrifice that much defensively by putting him out there, why is it such an offense to play Mastro at second when your lineup is minus Mauer?

Shane Wahl
09-13-2012, 01:15 AM
There is no reason to play Doumit in LF. None. This manager just takes the damn cake. Going through MUCH of this season I was not into the "fire 'em" idea, but now I am. From TR to Gardy and Jim Rantz. They are all showing their true (dumb) colors. My god. Doumit in LF? And the Twins also managed to use SEVEN pitchers tonight in another feat of absurdity. Really . . . from Slama to Parmelee to Dozier to Jeff Gray to playing Doumit in LF to using the bullpen BIZARRELY in sept. of a lost season to the terrible use of the DL vs. "day-to-day" situations . . . it is completely beyond comprehension. ONLY with new ownership would the necessary corrections be made, however.

snepp
09-13-2012, 01:22 AM
And the Twins also managed to use SEVEN pitchers tonight in another feat of absurdity.

No innings available for Slama though, no siree.

Wolfy
09-13-2012, 05:55 AM
Doumit has become my least favorite player. Kind of hard to actually become that, but he wins.

Has this guy done anything productive in the last 10 weeks?

How many times has he come to the plate in a situation where he could do several productive things that wouldn't even include having to actually get a hit, and he decides to do the one thing you absolutely cannot do?

It's irritating listening to people include his name in the "middle of the order mash" the Twins have when everyone is cooking. He should never be mentioned. The guy should be playing 2-3 times a week tops and hitting 8th. 300 AB's tops for this guy.

That butchery in left only confirmed what I've felt about this guy for quite some time. The guy is a dud...

snepp
09-13-2012, 07:40 AM
Doumit has an .800 OPS over the last 10 weeks.


Nope, he hasn't done anything whatsoever.

adjacent
09-13-2012, 07:50 AM
It is reallly hard to justify having Butera catching and Doumit in LF when there are 2 other players in the bench that are actually capable of playing the position. I know Doumit catched yesterday, but he is not going to collapse if he does it 2 days in a row. Doumit catching and Carlson or Mastroianni in LF sounds better than Butera catching and Boumit in LF, but what do I know?

Wolfy
09-13-2012, 07:54 AM
Doumit has an .800 OPS over the last 10 weeks.


Nope, he hasn't done anything whatsoever.

And GREAT numbers with runners on and risp.

The guy is a dud. But at least he is versatile...

JB_Iowa
09-13-2012, 08:30 AM
LOL at the Magic Number. I was thinking it was 4 -- the wins needed to avoid 100 losses!

Boom Boom
09-13-2012, 08:56 AM
I'm not sure why Gardy felt the need to put Doumit in LF. There are so many other options right now with the expanded rosters.

Gardy could have put Doumit at C and a better hitter than Butera in LF if he wanted to put his optimal lineup on the field.

Also... why is Revere back in right field? I get that Gardy wants to reward his veteran guy by giving Span back his position, but there's no reason Revere couldn't be put in left where he's a better fit now that there are other outfield options.... it's not like Revere's future is in right field anyway.

Alex
09-13-2012, 04:15 PM
I'm not sure why Gardy felt the need to put Doumit in LF. There are so many other options right now with the expanded rosters.

Gardy could have put Doumit at C and a better hitter than Butera in LF if he wanted to put his optimal lineup on the field.

Also... why is Revere back in right field? I get that Gardy wants to reward his veteran guy by giving Span back his position, but there's no reason Revere couldn't be put in left where he's a better fit now that there are other outfield options.... it's not like Revere's future is in right field anyway.

Funny, I was just going to post this and it looks like hindsight.....but there was no reason to play Butera. This means Doumit could have been at C, Revere in LF, and Parmelee in RF to get him some more at bats.

jokin
09-13-2012, 04:26 PM
I'm not sure why Gardy felt the need to put Doumit in LF. There are so many other options right now with the expanded rosters.

Gardy could have put Doumit at C and a better hitter than Butera in LF if he wanted to put his optimal lineup on the field.

Also... why is Revere back in right field? I get that Gardy wants to reward his veteran guy by giving Span back his position, but there's no reason Revere couldn't be put in left where he's a better fit now that there are other outfield options.... it's not like Revere's future is in right field anyway.

Funny, I was just going to post this and it looks like hindsight.....but there was no reason to play Butera. This means Doumit could have been at C, Revere in LF, and Parmelee in RF to get him some more at bats.

Now there's apparently plenty of reason to play Butera. The Twins just posted tonight's lineup. Butera starts at C again- It's the first "one-catcher" lineup I can remember in recent weeks. Doumit gets a much-deserved night off from his nightmare game yesterday. Revere stays in RF, Mastro in LF.

Alex
09-13-2012, 04:42 PM
Wait, is Parmelee hurt?

Seriously? I like Mastro but c'mon.

Yeah, I'm find with Butera giving Doums a rest, but the Twins lineup should not have two catchers (w/o Mauer) as it did last night.