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Brock Beauchamp
09-07-2012, 01:42 PM
Twins:
Ben Revere CF
Eduardo Escobar 2B
Joe Mauer C
Josh Willingham DH
Justin Morneau 1B
Ryan Doumit LF
Chris Parmelee RF
Trevor Plouffe 3B
Pedro Florimon SS
(Liam Hendriks P)

Indians:
Shin-Soo Choo RF
Jason Kipnis 2B
Asdrubal Cabrera SS
Carlos Santana C
Michael Brantley CF
Russ Canzler DH
Casey Kotchman 1B
Vinny Rottino LF
Jack Hannahan 3B
(Jeanmar Gomez P)

snepp
09-07-2012, 02:01 PM
This is the series I've been looking forward to.

snepp
09-07-2012, 07:20 PM
Well that was a putrid "ball" call.

glunn
09-07-2012, 07:22 PM
Looking at the rosters on the internet, it is clear that even the Indians have a lot more September callups than the Twins. I find this appalling.

GCTF
09-07-2012, 07:26 PM
Australian Blackburn throws 27 pitches and doesn't get scored on. Well done.

mnfireman
09-07-2012, 07:30 PM
I didn't realize the strike zone was a living, moving, changing thing from batter to batter, pitch to pitch.

mnfireman
09-07-2012, 07:32 PM
Australian Blackburn throws 27 pitches and doesn't get scored on. Well done.

Shoulda been outta the inning on the strike 'em out, throw 'em out that wasn't.

glunn
09-07-2012, 07:33 PM
Looking at the rosters on the internet, it is clear that even the Indians have a lot more September callups than the Twins. I find this appalling.

greengoblinrulz
09-07-2012, 07:33 PM
had strike 3 on the previous pitch either....no mention

glunn
09-07-2012, 07:34 PM
This may be another game where the Twins can do nothing against a pitcher whose stats are mediocre. I feel that maybe the Twins have such a losing mentality at this point that they just wish that the season was over.

Top Gun
09-07-2012, 07:41 PM
Can the Twins sweep!

Riverbrian
09-07-2012, 07:44 PM
I didn't realize the strike zone was a living, moving, changing thing from batter to batter, pitch to pitch.

While Coaching I had my moments of thinking the umpire was an idiot. That all changed when I put the gear on... Grabbed a clicker and actually umped a game.

It is hard.... I had no idea. Did the ball cross at the knees? The catcher will give a view and then shift as the pitch comes in and block your view.

There is little sense for a catcher to try and frame. You can't see the glove anyway. Been umping a couple years now and it's still hard. I'm a lot more empathetic now. All coaches should try it sometime. Parents as well.

With that said... Give the kid a break... He's looking for his first win.

JB_Iowa
09-07-2012, 07:46 PM
Maybe Frankie could get back out there and pitch? Only 25 years have gone by since his 87 Cy Young season. Just the blink of an eye.

Riverbrian
09-07-2012, 07:51 PM
Maybe Frankie could get back out there and pitch? Only 25 years have gone by since his 87 Cy Young season. Just the blink of an eye.

Blink of an eye... Ain't that the truth.

Riverbrian
09-07-2012, 07:54 PM
Parmelee does his job. Well done

greengoblinrulz
09-07-2012, 08:01 PM
Maybe Frankie could get back out there and pitch? Only 25 years have gone by since his 87 Cy Young season. Just the blink of an eye.
in the same age bracket as Walters, Deduno, etc.....

GCTF
09-07-2012, 08:04 PM
I thought Parmelee had as much range as your average kitchen refrigerator.

greengoblinrulz
09-07-2012, 08:06 PM
murderers row coming up
25, 24 & 23 yr old prospects .....best the Twins think they have

Riverbrian
09-07-2012, 08:07 PM
The Frig is much too slow. You gotta put a frig at 1B.

Riverbrian
09-07-2012, 08:10 PM
murderers row coming up
25, 24 & 23 yr old prospects .....best the Twins think they have

Jinxed yourself.

snepp
09-07-2012, 08:16 PM
Hammer does know where right field is.

mikeee
09-07-2012, 08:16 PM
hammer time!

JB_Iowa
09-07-2012, 08:26 PM
Nothing like giving at least 1/2 the lead right back.

greengoblinrulz
09-07-2012, 08:33 PM
Nothing like giving at least 1/2 the lead right back.
better with a 4 run lead than a tie game....ala the King Felix start.

JB_Iowa
09-07-2012, 08:39 PM
Aggie looks like he could get right back on the mound.

greengoblinrulz
09-07-2012, 08:58 PM
cant do any worse than Jeff Gray

glunn
09-07-2012, 09:03 PM
Another AGONIZING game. I admire those with the intestinal fortitude to watch it.

kydoty
09-07-2012, 09:21 PM
I think Liam's more interesting to watch when he's still chasing that elusive first win. It's like the Rabbit that's always after the Trix. It's more compelling tv to watch him fail than succeed. It makes him more of a tragic figure that everyone can sympathize with.

Top Gun
09-07-2012, 09:30 PM
They are battling hard!

JB_Iowa
09-07-2012, 09:32 PM
Sigh. It's like watching a bad circus some times.

USAFChief
09-07-2012, 09:34 PM
I'm waiting for someone to make some claim again about Florimon's "elite" defense.

JB_Iowa
09-07-2012, 09:38 PM
Really hard to believe that they couldn't have found an inning or two for Slama in this game.

But at least Waldrop was efficient there.

snepp
09-07-2012, 09:41 PM
I'm sick of Burnett's putrid strikeout rate, mediocre walk rate, and fluke ERA.

snepp
09-07-2012, 09:43 PM
Really hard to believe that they couldn't have found an inning or two for Slama in this game.

You read my mind.

But there's just no way they could find enough relief innings to go around if they had one more reliever, no way whatsoever.

USAFChief
09-07-2012, 09:46 PM
Really hard to believe that they couldn't have found an inning or two for Slama in this game.

You read my mind.

But there's just no way they could find enough relief innings to go around if they had one more reliever, no way whatsoever.

Haven't you heard?

a) He's no good any way. He had his shot.
b) There's not enough work in the pen on a team that's carried 13 pitchers for large chunks of the season
c) There's only 1 spot open on the 40 man.
d) "He'll get his shot."

Do try to keep up.

greengoblinrulz
09-07-2012, 09:47 PM
I'm waiting for someone to make some claim again about Florimon's "elite" defense.

yeah, he's been ever bit (or more) as shaky as Dozier was but without even a tinge of the offensive upside. Florimon is also 6 months older than Dozier (who everyone complained was too old)

GCTF
09-07-2012, 09:51 PM
I'm sick of Burnett's putrid strikeout rate, mediocre walk rate, and fluke ERA.

Also, he's funny lookin'. But all those things you brought up are valid too.

USAFChief
09-07-2012, 09:53 PM
Escobar hits for himself as the tying run in the 7th with 2 out.

No room for any callups with a stick on this roster either, I guess.

Are they even trying any more?

snepp
09-07-2012, 09:54 PM
Haven't you heard?

a) He's no good any way. He had his shot.
b) There's not enough work in the pen on a team that's carried 13 pitchers for large chunks of the season
c) There's only 1 spot open on the 40 man.
d) "He'll get his shot."

Do try to keep up.

e) Luis Perdomo and his 6 k/9 in AAA "earned" and "deserves" a look.
f) His stuff doesn't play.
g) He has a weak mustache.
h) Just because.

GCTF
09-07-2012, 10:01 PM
Escobar hits for himself as the tying run in the 7th with 2 out.

Sorry, "we need to see what we've got".

kydoty
09-07-2012, 10:29 PM
I love how we're bunting down 2 runs in the 9th inning with only one runner on.

snepp
09-07-2012, 10:31 PM
Looks like Rod Beck.

JB_Iowa
09-07-2012, 10:34 PM
Well, blech. Hope they can win one for TK this weekend.

Top Gun
09-07-2012, 10:39 PM
Well Perk got some work.

USAFChief
09-07-2012, 10:56 PM
Haven't you heard?

a) He's no good any way. He had his shot.
b) There's not enough work in the pen on a team that's carried 13 pitchers for large chunks of the season
c) There's only 1 spot open on the 40 man.
d) "He'll get his shot."

Do try to keep up.

e) Luis Perdomo and his 6 k/9 in AAA "earned" and "deserves" a look.
f) His stuff doesn't play.
g) He has a weak mustache.
h) Just because.

For the record, I do agree with them on item g).

glunn
09-07-2012, 11:21 PM
Are they even trying any more?

It sure doesn't seem that they are.

Alex
09-07-2012, 11:25 PM
Well Perk got some work.

I was personally impressed by the intestinal fortitude it took to hold him (or Burton) back in case he was needed to save the 9th while strategically using mediocre relievers when a far less meaningful situation occurred in the 7th: no outs, two on, tie game...

stringer bell
09-08-2012, 08:21 AM
JoeC's postgame talked about the tiny strike zone the umpire had. I saw only parts of the game, but I do agree, his zone had no corners for most of the game that I saw. That said, Hendriks and Gardenhire didn't use the small zone as an excuse. I'll add that a "strike thrower" like Hendriks would benefit alot from a more generous strike zone and that I can see why he can be effective in the minors, but struggle in the big leagues. He hits the glove with a very straight 90-91 mph fastball. He has to have very good command for those pitches to be effective.