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Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 02:10 PM
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Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 02:30 PM
Twins:
Span CF
Revere RF
Mauer C
Willingham DH
Morneau 1B
Doumit LF
Nishioka 2B
Dozier SS
Carroll 3B
(Deduno P)

Indians:
Kipnis 2B
Cabrera SS
Choo RF
Santana C
Brantley CF
Kotchman 1B
Duncan DH
Hannahan 3B
Carrera LF
(Kluber P)

crarko
08-07-2012, 02:40 PM
Sam needs (and deserves) solid infield defense tonight. Fingers crossed.

mnfireman
08-07-2012, 02:53 PM
Nice! Nishioka goes 0-5 with two errors (one on a routine grounder a 9 yr old handles) and he starts again. Granted Casilla isn't exactly ripping the cover off of the ball, but.... what crarko said!

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 03:02 PM
Nice! Nishioka goes 0-5 with two errors (one on a routine grounder a 9 yr old handles) and he starts again. Granted Casilla isn't exactly ripping the cover off of the ball, but.... what crarko said!

You don't bench a guy for one bad day, especially his first day with the team.

In fact, it's the opposite of what you do. You throw that guy out there again and show him that you have confidence in his ability to play baseball.

Not that any of us have any confidence in Nishioka's ability to play baseball but Gardy's doing the right thing.

TKGuy
08-07-2012, 03:17 PM
You don't bench a guy for one bad day, especially his first day with the team.

In fact, it's the opposite of what you do. You throw that guy out there again and show him that you have confidence in his ability to play baseball.

Not that any of us have any confidence in Nishioka's ability to play baseball but Gardy's doing the right thing.



Agreed, just like a closer with a blown save.

jokin
08-07-2012, 04:17 PM
You don't bench a guy for one bad day, especially his first day with the team.

In fact, it's the opposite of what you do. You throw that guy out there again and show him that you have confidence in his ability to play baseball.

Not that any of us have any confidence in Nishioka's ability to play baseball but Gardy's doing the right thing.

You would have to admit, not all the confidence-boosting methods in the world will have the remotest chance of changing what IS is.

It's a general theory both this year and last, and exposited today on the radio, that Gardy's hands are tied on this one and is following the directive from the front office. Sadly, despite the club remaining in denial, the odds are staggering that this can only end one way- with egg on everyone's face.

Head First
08-07-2012, 05:28 PM
Is the old Justin back? Yeah, if not all the way back, very close to it. He just looks so much more confident.
Thanks for posting the start of this thread. I appreciate all the info and the lineups.

one_eyed_jack
08-07-2012, 05:48 PM
Nishi needs to figure out how to relax. The man looks like he mentally ties himself in knots out there, which leads to him physically tie himself in knots like he did on that first play last night.

It's like watching a well-meaning but hopelessly nervous guy on a first date who keeps spilling drinks and saying stupid things. Sure, he'll never be the Dos Equis guy, but if he could just find a way to relax, he'd at least avoid humiliating himself. And a non-humiliating effort would be a step in the right direction for Nishi.

Have we tried having him do a few shots before first pitch? Maybe he'd calm down and play better if he were a little liquored up.

Ultima Ratio
08-07-2012, 05:52 PM
Deduno hasn't given up more than 3 ER in a start this year in the majors. That's good, though he's only qualified for a quality start 2 or 3 times I believe. Keep it rolling tonight boys! (though I'm betting at least one more error from Nishi)

kydoty
08-07-2012, 06:08 PM
"Twins have gotten a lot of home runs via the home run." - Bert

crarko
08-07-2012, 06:11 PM
"Twins have gotten a lot of home runs via the home run." - Bert

My Minnesota math says all of them. :D

crarko
08-07-2012, 06:19 PM
I think this discussion they had about Morneau in the first inning states why I'd rather not trade him. This team has precious few on field leaders, but he can be the best of them. You think of Puck's "climb on my back" statement, and who else is here to do that now? Maybe the Hammer.

SpiritofVodkaDave
08-07-2012, 06:25 PM
Nishioka ****ting himself in the field again.

Drink 3.

crarko
08-07-2012, 06:28 PM
Nishioka ****ting himself in the field again.

Drink 3.

Hey, at least he caught the ball. :whacky028:

USAFChief
08-07-2012, 06:36 PM
Hey, at least he caught the ball. :whacky028:

And made the throw to 2nd.

Baby steps.

USAFChief
08-07-2012, 06:41 PM
I'm not sure how, but the HR was undoubtedly Nishioka's fault.

SpiritofVodkaDave
08-07-2012, 06:41 PM
Well that wasn't predictable in the least. It was a good run Sammy.

snepp
08-07-2012, 06:45 PM
I'm not sure how, but the HR was undoubtedly Nishioka's fault.

The bench must be further away from the mound in Cleveland, Drew's whispers aren't reaching him.

SpiritofVodkaDave
08-07-2012, 06:50 PM
Are we allowed to be negative about DeDuno yet?

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 06:53 PM
After weeks of watching it download at 5kps speeds, I finally finished downloading the entire run of Cop Rock.

Screw you, baseball.

Jocko87
08-07-2012, 06:59 PM
Are we allowed to be negative about DeDuno yet?

Yes, 4 runs allowed should be an auto-DFA.

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 07:02 PM
Trevor has been talking about his injury for a couple of minutes now and hasn't mentioned "amputation" even once.

I'm a little surprised.

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 07:03 PM
The Aboriginals are hitting Deduno pretty hard.

snepp
08-07-2012, 07:05 PM
Are we allowed to be negative about DeDuno yet?

Allow me to consult the rules on what's allowed for Deduno....

TheLeviathan
08-07-2012, 07:06 PM
Allow me to consult the rules on what's allowed for Deduno....

Let's talk about how lucky the Indians are getting by hitting pitches the team even acknowledges he can't control. HAS to be luck.

Ultima Ratio
08-07-2012, 07:07 PM
Pitches and way too much too often up in the zone.

glunn
08-07-2012, 07:08 PM
This game is not going well at all. I do not have a live feed. Can someone comment on what's wrong with Deduno's pitching?

glunn
08-07-2012, 07:08 PM
Pitches and way too much too often up in the zone.

Thanks, that explains it.

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 07:09 PM
This game is not going well at all. I do not have a live feed. Can someone comment on what's wrong with Deduno's pitching?

As usual, he's all over the place. When he does get it over, it's a meatball.

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 07:10 PM
The Canuck comes up huge there.

USAFChief
08-07-2012, 07:10 PM
Nice snag Morneusie.

NorthwestTwinsFan
08-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Great play by Morneau to help Deduno stay in the game.

USAFChief
08-07-2012, 07:12 PM
Pitches and way too much too often up in the zone.

Hang'n with Bert pregame?

glunn
08-07-2012, 07:18 PM
This would be a good time for Nishi to get on base.

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 07:19 PM
I don't know what it is about Deduno but I find myself really cheering for the guy.

Nishioka? Don't care. De Vries? Meh. Blackburn? Don't like him. But Deduno? I earnestly want to see the guy succeed.

And I have no idea why. It might have something to do with the absurdity of his pitching style and the fact that he has absolutely no idea where the ball is going once it leaves his hand.

glunn
08-07-2012, 07:23 PM
I don't know what it is about Deduno but I find myself really cheering for the guy.

Nishioka? Don't care. De Vries? Meh. Blackburn? Don't like him. But Deduno? I earnestly want to see the guy succeed.

And I have no idea why. It might have something to do with the absurdity of his pitching style and the fact that he has absolutely no idea where the ball is going once it leaves his hand.

I share your desire that Deduno succeed, but I also like DeVries. It seems to me that DeVries is a hard worker who is making the most out of what he can do.

USAFChief
08-07-2012, 07:34 PM
Lets get some runs

SpiritofVodkaDave
08-07-2012, 07:34 PM
I don't know what it is about Deduno but I find myself really cheering for the guy.

Nishioka? Don't care. De Vries? Meh. Blackburn? Don't like him. But Deduno? I earnestly want to see the guy succeed.

And I have no idea why. It might have something to do with the absurdity of his pitching style and the fact that he has absolutely no idea where the ball is going once it leaves his hand.

I want to like him, I just don't see how he can keep it up.

glunn
08-07-2012, 07:38 PM
Lets get some runs

Yes, please, a big inning would be great here.

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 07:39 PM
I want to like him, I just don't see how he can keep it up.

Neither do I but I still cheer him on.

And damn, Mauer drilled that ball right at the SS. Argh.

glunn
08-07-2012, 07:40 PM
Damn.

USAFChief
08-07-2012, 07:42 PM
Neither do I but I still cheer him on.

And damn, Mauer drilled that ball right at the SS. Argh.

2-0 pitch. You can't be hitting that ball on the ground, the other way.

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 07:42 PM
Praise Jesus, we're saved. Jeff Manship is on the mound.

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 07:43 PM
2-0 pitch. You can't be hitting that ball on the ground, the other way.

He was barely behind it but I understand your point.

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 07:51 PM
Manship has Duncan right where he wants him. Eight feet from a homerun.

Brock Beauchamp
08-07-2012, 08:06 PM
Damn, Justin. So close.

snepp
08-07-2012, 08:09 PM
I don't know what it is about Deduno but I find myself really cheering for the guy.

Nishioka? Don't care. De Vries? Meh. Blackburn? Don't like him. But Deduno? I earnestly want to see the guy succeed.

And I have no idea why. It might have something to do with the absurdity of his pitching style and the fact that he has absolutely no idea where the ball is going once it leaves his hand.

The only thing missing are an extra 4 or 5 completely uncontrollable MPH on that fastball.

kydoty
08-07-2012, 08:11 PM
And when Nishioka isn't sucking, he's being extremely unlucky.

mikeee
08-07-2012, 08:13 PM
And when Nishioka isn't sucking, he's being extremely unlucky.

I think he'll get a hit tonight.:whacky028:

nokomismod
08-07-2012, 08:45 PM
Nice play by Cabrera to make up for his earlier misplay.

TheLeviathan
08-07-2012, 09:17 PM
Boy are Dick and Bert working to pin that bunt single on Nishioka.

glunn
08-07-2012, 09:23 PM
Hammer time!!!

glunn
08-07-2012, 09:26 PM
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GCTF
08-07-2012, 09:27 PM
Lucky break, I like it.

kydoty
08-07-2012, 09:27 PM
"Shades of Bill Buckner."

Uh...no, Dick. It's not.

snepp
08-07-2012, 09:28 PM
I love the Indians.

glunn
08-07-2012, 09:29 PM
Lucky break, I like it.

Now let's take the lead and finish this thing.

Oh no, it's Nishi time.

SpiritofVodkaDave
08-07-2012, 09:29 PM
Stayin alive!

glunn
08-07-2012, 09:30 PM
Nishi comes through with the SF. This is good.

GCTF
08-07-2012, 09:30 PM
Nishioka, not completely useless.

kydoty
08-07-2012, 09:31 PM
The Cleveland Indians are the gift that keeps on giving.

glunn
08-07-2012, 09:31 PM
One more run here would be nice.

Ultima Ratio
08-07-2012, 09:31 PM
One game back of the Tribe with this win... let's go boys!

snepp
08-07-2012, 09:31 PM
Mastraohni.

SpiritofVodkaDave
08-07-2012, 09:31 PM
NISHIOKA!!!!!!!

Valenica would have struck out there.

glunn
08-07-2012, 09:32 PM
One game back of the Tribe with this win... let's go boys!

This is a definite bright spot in a bleak season.

Ultima Ratio
08-07-2012, 09:33 PM
Ahhhhh!!! This is just wonderful!!!!

GCTF
08-07-2012, 09:34 PM
Is Jeff Gray available?

glunn
08-07-2012, 09:34 PM
I kinda feel sorry for the Indians, but it will be nice if we can pass them.

deanlambrecht
08-07-2012, 09:34 PM
Almost feel bad for Cleveland here. Almost.

SpiritofVodkaDave
08-07-2012, 09:37 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CajufBiDrks/TGrOKjtNRyI/AAAAAAAABTE/AXAZqnHH8RI/s1600/cinema.majorleague.groundskeepers.jpg

BrentMpls
08-07-2012, 09:39 PM
I bet that Winless August and DFA Monster are pretty upset right now!

GCTF
08-07-2012, 09:48 PM
Winnah.

Ultima Ratio
08-07-2012, 09:49 PM
This game shows how much mediocre/poor defense can kill you and demoralize you in the future.

one_eyed_jack
08-07-2012, 09:49 PM
NISHIOKA!!!!!!!

Valenica would have struck out there.

---Ha! Too true! The other difference between Nishi and Valencia is that Nishi at least seems to realize and acknowledge his awfulness. If Valencia had played last night and gone 0-5 with 2 errors, he still would have been strutting around like the blowout victory was all due to him.

one_eyed_jack
08-07-2012, 09:50 PM
This Indians team reminds me a lot of the late-2011 Twins. Unfocused and unraveling.

Ultima Ratio
08-07-2012, 10:15 PM
I only caught bits of the game until the end but saw that Deduno only went 4.0 IP on 87 pitches. Yes, that's high/inning, but since no runs scored since the second on him, why wasn't he brought back for the 5 inning. Anyone?

stringer bell
08-07-2012, 10:20 PM
This game shows how much mediocre/poor defense can kill you and demoralize you in the future.Reminds me of last year's Twins.

BrentMpls
08-07-2012, 10:28 PM
I only caught bits of the game until the end but saw that Deduno only went 4.0 IP on 87 pitches. Yes, that's high/inning, but since no runs scored since the second on him, why wasn't he brought back for the 5 inning. Anyone?


He was all over the place tonight, even for him

jokin
08-07-2012, 10:28 PM
I only caught bits of the game until the end but saw that Deduno only went 4.0 IP on 87 pitches. Yes, that's high/inning, but since no runs scored since the second on him, why wasn't he brought back for the 5 inning. Anyone?

You had to see it to disbelieve how wildly both Deduno and Manship were throwing (Deduno 5 BB and 1HBP and Manship w/ 2 BB). In addition, Cleveland might have set a record for foul balls hit as they were swinging and making poor contact with virtually everything being thrown up there, bailing out Deduno and Manship and then wildly flailing and missing balls in the dirt and out of the strike zone (7 Ks for the duo). Gardy was less than diplomatic about their performance at the press conference (136 pitches over 6 I). It was nice to see Roberston restore some sanity to this crazy game over 2 innings, he was less than stellar, but fireman of the year by comparison to the first two Twins throwers. It's difficult to describe how bad the Twins were (2-15 RISP with 5 unearned runs scored out of 7) but by comparison how truly Godawful the Indians were, their few remaining fans are in near-revolt.

Ultima Ratio
08-07-2012, 10:54 PM
Thanks for supplying the information guys.