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BrentMpls
08-02-2012, 09:34 PM
"Pohlads want #TargetField to be first class forever. They're already taking bids for a number of improvements next season."
https://twitter.com/SidHartman/status/215585055341412355


This Tweet under Sid's name is the only place I've heard about this - anyone have any additional info on what they are planning for Target Field? 2011 was a big deal with the Twins Tower, 2nd Scoreboard, Tree Trail of Tears, and a few heating lamps.

TheLeviathan
08-02-2012, 09:47 PM
Walls coming in huh?

minn55441
08-02-2012, 09:51 PM
I know this year, everything done was mostly behind the scenes stuff like new carpet in the suite area. I know as per the agreement that they signed when TF was built, they are required to dump a specific amount or specific percentage back in the facility every year.

Highabove
08-02-2012, 09:51 PM
I would much rather have the improvements go to the Pitching Staff.

Jeremy Nygaard
08-02-2012, 09:53 PM
I know this year, everything done was mostly behind the scenes stuff like new carpet in the suite area. I know as per the agreement that they signed when TF was built, they are required to dump a specific amount or specific percentage back in the facility every year.

Interesting you use the word "dump". As Glen Perkins might say, the product on the field looks like what he "dumps" after he eats Chipotle.

notoriousgod71
08-02-2012, 10:02 PM
I would much rather have the improvements go to the Pitching Staff.

This.

BrentMpls
08-02-2012, 10:49 PM
I know this year, everything done was mostly behind the scenes stuff like new carpet in the suite area. I know as per the agreement that they signed when TF was built, they are required to dump a specific amount or specific percentage back in the facility every year.


Good point. Nice idea really, that way every year they can claim they are improving it.

Hopefully it means more than just replacing carpet for the elite areas though!

righty8383
08-02-2012, 11:06 PM
Maybe they should do something about the CF area. Maybe plant some nice trees or something:rolleyes:

BrentMpls
08-02-2012, 11:25 PM
Maybe they should do something about the CF area. Maybe plant some nice trees or something:rolleyes:

Now that Cuddyer is gone I don't see why not :)

Be nice to lower it again to 2010 level to you can see easier from center field SRO area too

spideyo
08-03-2012, 11:47 AM
I would much rather have the improvements go to the Pitching Staff.

It doesn't work like that. The money spent of facilities improvement and maintenance is an entirely separate fund and CANNOT be spent on payroll.



August-October is the period when MN Sportservice (the company that operates all the concessions, retail, suites and restaurant spaces at Target Field, and my employer) will submit their requests for capital improvements. Things like new kitchen equipment, improved beer distribution systems (one thing I know that is being requested), remodeling/alteration of the various vending spaces, that kind of thing. The Twins will sort through those, figure out which stuff is an absolute priority, and pay for those first. After that, they will look at how much budget they have left and compare the other internal an external proposals and figure out what they can afford. Most likely any significant changes won't be announced until late November or December.

I haven't heard much talk yet, but if I hear any juicy rumors I'll let you know.

My best guesses at this point would be:
1. Expansion of local/craft brews in the ballpark
2. Improvements to the plaza to encourage more people to come early
3. Permanent addition of The Giant Slugger big dog or something similar to create a "signature" food at Target Field

Don't expect them to move the fences anytime soon. They don't want "dead space", and with attendance dropping, they aren't going to add more seats.


If anyone does have specific issues that you think should be addressed, please let me know. I will be submitting some of my own proposals to my managers in the next month or two (largely related to the Rooftop where I usually work)

BrentMpls
08-03-2012, 01:25 PM
My best guesses at this point would be:
1. Expansion of local/craft brews in the ballpark

I'd like that, but I'm not sure that this would come out of the Twins pocket, would it? They all seem to be on mobile stands (more on that later). Shock Top, Blue Moon, and Surly are the ones I've seen most often.



2. Improvements to the plaza to encourage more people to come early

That would be great, but I wonder how much more they can do in that already fairly cramped space. Such a tease to sell Blue Moon or some other craft beer just outside the gates but not be allowed to bring it in.



3. Permanent addition of The Giant Slugger big dog

Speaking of which, did anyone try that monster? I only made it to one game in July and wasn't able to check it out before it was laid to rest.



If anyone does have specific issues that you think should be addressed, please let me know. I will be submitting some of my own proposals to my managers in the next month or two (largely related to the Rooftop where I usually work)

The most realistic change I think they could make that I personally would love to see is more "shelf" space to put drinks, dogs, programs, etc. down for the standing areas. Many sections don't have them, it would be nice to see them all around the ballpark rather than just every few sections or so.

I'm not sure what they could do to improve, but another complaint is how cramped the isles are near gate 34 and 29 before a game. It's a zoo until you get past home plate/3rd base to and past gate 14.

I also find it annoying that on the second level that The Legends Club blocks access from the left and right field sides. if I want to make it over to the Town Ball Tavern/Budweiser Deck Entrance side from the Gate 29 side, tough luck, you have to go back down the escalator and walk down to Gate 6, take that escalator back up. And Visa Versa.

I'd like to be continued to be wow'd, cool new additions that I and others aren't expecting would be great.

James
08-03-2012, 01:45 PM
I like the idea of adding more craft beer. The Surly line was backed up pretty far at the beginning of the year, but isn't too bad. It would be nice to have more than one place to get that. I don't usually make it up to Townball Tavern, so I miss out on the Fulton.

I really can't think of too many other things, really. I'm sure if I thought about it more, I could think of some more stuff.

bulldogguy
08-03-2012, 02:00 PM
I was there this past Tuesday and saw a Goose Island stand right by the Surly stand...love the fact that they are looking to add more craft beers. Tthough Goose is no longer independent and owned by Anheiser -~sp? Busch I believe - don't drink their products, so I can't spell it;).

Boom Boom
08-03-2012, 02:24 PM
Automatic flushers.

nicksaviking
08-03-2012, 03:00 PM
I also find it annoying that on the second level that The Legends Club blocks access from the left and right field sides. if I want to make it over to the Town Ball Tavern/Budweiser Deck Entrance side from the Gate 29 side, tough luck, you have to go back down the escalator and walk down to Gate 6, take that escalator back up. And Visa Versa.

Yeah, this always seemed like a strange architecural decision. It's almost like they want the rubes to get right up to the legends club to see what they're missing then send them back down and up and around. Rub our nose in the fact that the big spenders don't have to go out of their way but the rest of us need to make a lengthy detour.

The plaza also does seem a little crowded to fit more entertainment, but that could be remedied too. I don't know why they felt comfrotable building part of the plaza over the 394 exit but left the other half open. I don't see a reason why at some point the plaza couldn't be expanded over all of 394 all the way up to Target Center.

jctwins
08-03-2012, 03:48 PM
My best guesses at this point would be:
1. Expansion of local/craft brews in the ballpark
2. Improvements to the plaza to encourage more people to come early
3. Permanent addition of The Giant Slugger big dog or something similar to create a "signature" food at Target Field


1. Allow beer bought on the plaza in a team cup to be brought into the gate. That would sell more beer, because I have walked past it several times and waited until I got closer to my seat to buy one.

2. Switch the damn paper towel dispensers from those tension ones to ones that actually work.

3. Put a scoreboard up that shows the lineup that is one the field, instead of just the lineup that is batting.

There are others but that's all that comes to mind right now.

MrHockey
08-03-2012, 03:55 PM
"Pohlads want #TargetField to be first class forever. They're already taking bids for a number of improvements next season."
https://twitter.com/SidHartman/status/215585055341412355


This Tweet under Sid's name is the only place I've heard about this - anyone have any additional info on what they are planning for Target Field? 2011 was a big deal with the Twins Tower, 2nd Scoreboard, Tree Trail of Tears, and a few heating lamps.

Heard they are considering trees to soften the black eye in center field but to the sides.

Rosterman
08-03-2012, 03:57 PM
Give us pitcher information.

SpiritofVodkaDave
08-03-2012, 04:45 PM
Upgrades: Code for "We know we sucked the past 2 years on the field but we are going to raise ticket prices anyways under the guise of a new food station or 2 more urinals"

John Bonnes
08-03-2012, 11:57 PM
If I remember right, the Twins are committed (contractually?) to paying $1.5M per year into a fund that is used for maintenance and improvements, but they've been sinking additional money into things too. I'm very happy about this. They seem to really value their home and I'd like it to last a long, long time; not just the 30 year (or however long) lease they have.

BrentMpls
08-04-2012, 12:15 AM
I'd like it to last a long, long time; not just the 30 year (or however long) lease they have.


I agree!

Darin Bratsch
08-04-2012, 07:57 AM
Heard they are considering trees to soften the black eye in center field but to the sides.

Please add some trees back in CF, even if just on the sides.

silverslugger
08-04-2012, 08:57 AM
Let's just add a few inches to the mound and not tell anybody. Oh wait... that benefits power pitchers and the Twins don't have any of those:eek: save Perkins.

70charger
08-06-2012, 03:42 AM
Automatic flushers.

Troughs.

Boom Boom
08-06-2012, 09:51 AM
Troughs.

Hey, at least with the troughs we didn't have to touch the flush handle on the urinal that everybody else had touched between relieving themselves and washing their hands.

DPJ
08-06-2012, 10:12 AM
Hey, at least with the troughs we didn't have to touch the flush handle on the urinal that everybody else had touched between relieving themselves and washing their hands.

You actually touch those?

Boom Boom
08-06-2012, 10:44 AM
You actually touch those?

Well, they do fill up over time if nobody flushes them. I usually use my sleeve or something but I still feel icky about it.

DPJ
08-06-2012, 10:45 AM
Well, they do fill up over time if nobody flushes them. I usually use my sleeve or something but I still feel icky about it.

Bruce Lee that **** with your shoe.

Boom Boom
08-06-2012, 10:48 AM
Bruce Lee that **** with your shoe.

I can totally axe-kick those things but I don't want to show off. Also I don't want any extra germs on my shoes.

SurroundedByTigers
08-06-2012, 12:05 PM
Let's just add a few inches to the mound and not tell anybody. Oh wait... that benefits power pitchers and the Twins don't have any of those:eek: save Perkins.
Power pitchers may only be part of the solution. But what I want to see is the Twins put 2-4 rows of special seating on the field, in left, say about 30 feet inside the left-field pole, and 30 feet inside the right-field pole, and then running maybe 100 feet toward centerfield.
These become premium seats, and would be our equivalent to the Green Monster seats in Boston.
Tigers also brought their fences in in left field after they realized nobody could hit them out to left.
These field level seats would create new bounces and odd caroms and make the game more interesting. It also would make the pitchers pay much closer attention to keeping the ball down.

StormJH1
08-06-2012, 12:14 PM
Heard they are considering trees to soften the black eye in center field but to the sides.
It's too bad we have a thread on ballpark improvements and I feel like a troll even bringing up the topic of CF and the batter's eye. But I'm sorry, it's one of the biggest aesthetic problems with the ballpark. It's too bad they let the opinions of a few players (some of which who are no longer with the team, or no longer great players) lead to the removal of what was one of the few signature elements of an otherwise terrific park. Aside from the particular limestone they used (and the giant Minnie and Paul sign), Target Field does sort of lack a "signature" element that differentiates it from other parks and makes it immediately recognizable. Some examples would be the Green Monster, or the waterfalls in Kansas City.

And it's too bad because I thought the trees were a great nod to the Northwoods identity of this state. Not to mention the fact that in future years, they'll lose thousands of fans who are up at their cabins instead of going to weekend baseball games in the city, so why not bring the woods to the ballpark?! (Sorry. I wasn't born "one of us", excuse the poor humor).

What we have now is an ugly BLACK wall with nothing below it, and it was a total overreaction. Other teams have trees (COL) shrubs/rocks (ANA) and large scoreboards at or near the batter's eye. But I feel like they won't touch it for years because to put anything in there now would be an acknowledgement that they screwed up.

jokin
08-06-2012, 12:42 PM
It's too bad we have a thread on ballpark improvements and I feel like a troll even bringing up the topic of CF and the batter's eye. But I'm sorry, it's one of the biggest aesthetic problems with the ballpark. It's too bad they let the opinions of a few players (some of which who are no longer with the team, or no longer great players) lead to the removal of what was one of the few signature elements of an otherwise terrific park. Aside from the particular limestone they used (and the giant Minnie and Paul sign), Target Field does sort of lack a "signature" element that differentiates it from other parks and makes it immediately recognizable. Some examples would be the Green Monster, or the waterfalls in Kansas City.

And it's too bad because I thought the trees were a great nod to the Northwoods identity of this state. Not to mention the fact that in future years, they'll lose thousands of fans who are up at their cabins instead of going to weekend baseball games in the city, so why not bring the woods to the ballpark?! (Sorry. I wasn't born "one of us", excuse the poor humor).

What we have now is an ugly BLACK wall with nothing below it, and it was a total overreaction. Other teams have trees (COL) shrubs/rocks (ANA) and large scoreboards at or near the batter's eye. But I feel like they won't touch it for years because to put anything in there now would be an acknowledgement that they screwed up.

Totally agree. You're not being a troll. It really isn't much of a stretch to state that a beautiful new ballpark, lovingly designed with thought and care and making a strong statement about the region for which it was created, has been desecrated, much like an original work of art being altered.

Maybe it's me, but I hadn't seen Fenway in a while so I don't know when the change was made, but that ugly tarp over those "signature" narrowly angulared centerfield seats was bothersome, too. Especially after they were able to put seats on top of the Green Monster and make it look architecturally consistent with the rest of the park.

BrentMpls
08-06-2012, 02:16 PM
It's too bad we have a thread on ballpark improvements and I feel like a troll even bringing up the topic of CF and the batter's eye. But I'm sorry, it's one of the biggest aesthetic problems with the ballpark. It's too bad they let the opinions of a few players (some of which who are no longer with the team, or no longer great players) lead to the removal of what was one of the few signature elements of an otherwise terrific park. Aside from the particular limestone they used (and the giant Minnie and Paul sign), Target Field does sort of lack a "signature" element that differentiates it from other parks and makes it immediately recognizable. Some examples would be the Green Monster, or the waterfalls in Kansas City.

And it's too bad because I thought the trees were a great nod to the Northwoods identity of this state. Not to mention the fact that in future years, they'll lose thousands of fans who are up at their cabins instead of going to weekend baseball games in the city, so why not bring the woods to the ballpark?! (Sorry. I wasn't born "one of us", excuse the poor humor).

What we have now is an ugly BLACK wall with nothing below it, and it was a total overreaction. Other teams have trees (COL) shrubs/rocks (ANA) and large scoreboards at or near the batter's eye. But I feel like they won't touch it for years because to put anything in there now would be an acknowledgement that they screwed up.


Very much agree.

(Also that big ugly paint-streaked black wall was RAISED about 10 feet and obstructs center field viewing some).

James
08-06-2012, 02:24 PM
It's too bad we have a thread on ballpark improvements and I feel like a troll even bringing up the topic of CF and the batter's eye. But I'm sorry, it's one of the biggest aesthetic problems with the ballpark. It's too bad they let the opinions of a few players (some of which who are no longer with the team, or no longer great players) lead to the removal of what was one of the few signature elements of an otherwise terrific park. Aside from the particular limestone they used (and the giant Minnie and Paul sign), Target Field does sort of lack a "signature" element that differentiates it from other parks and makes it immediately recognizable. Some examples would be the Green Monster, or the waterfalls in Kansas City.

And it's too bad because I thought the trees were a great nod to the Northwoods identity of this state. Not to mention the fact that in future years, they'll lose thousands of fans who are up at their cabins instead of going to weekend baseball games in the city, so why not bring the woods to the ballpark?! (Sorry. I wasn't born "one of us", excuse the poor humor).

What we have now is an ugly BLACK wall with nothing below it, and it was a total overreaction. Other teams have trees (COL) shrubs/rocks (ANA) and large scoreboards at or near the batter's eye. But I feel like they won't touch it for years because to put anything in there now would be an acknowledgement that they screwed up.
Not a troll statement at all.

I think the problem was with the reflection from the shiny green paint on the batter's eye in 2010. It supposedly had some pretty nasty reflections in the afternoons, which is where most of the complaints were from. Now that it is painted flat black, and there would be some better contrast between the wall and the trees, maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

I miss the trees.

purplesoldier
08-06-2012, 04:41 PM
Maybe the Wilfs will put a retractable dome on it. No, but seriously. I guess the seats are going to be better because it will cost more to sit in them.

BrentMpls
08-06-2012, 04:52 PM
Not a troll statement at all.

I think the problem was with the reflection from the shiny green paint on the batter's eye in 2010. It supposedly had some pretty nasty reflections in the afternoons, which is where most of the complaints were from. Now that it is painted flat black, and there would be some better contrast between the wall and the trees, maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

I miss the trees.


The main instigator was Michael Cuddyer who claimed the shadows from the trees made playing in the outfield 'dangerous'.

JB_Iowa
08-06-2012, 05:17 PM
I keep hoping that MLB will make them fix the "black hole" as a condition of awarding the AS game to the Twins. (Yeah, I know, not likely with Bud).

crarko
08-06-2012, 05:24 PM
Maybe a giant "Circle me Bert" sign would work there.

twinzgrl
08-06-2012, 05:49 PM
There are MANY things that make Target Field unique and beautiful. I love the bat shaped lit topiaries with the hops growing up them out on the plaza, the wind sculpture covering the parking ramp, the plaza leading into gate 34, the limestone, wide concourses, BIG jumbotron, skyline views, easy light rail access, the roof deck, the cool swoop of the upper deck awning with the recessed lights, Minnie and Paul shaking hands, the respect for the past throughout the stadium in photos and artwork, the OLD Metropolitan stadium flag pole....BUT, the TREES were so SPECIAL!! The current batter's eye is an EYESORE. They need to put something else out there. How about some trees?!!

BrentMpls
08-06-2012, 06:54 PM
easy light rail access


I wish that I could take advantage of the Lighrail, by the time it gets to me its absolutely packed from people who hop on at MOA.

CDog
08-06-2012, 09:04 PM
I wish that I could take advantage of the Lighrail, by the time it gets to me its absolutely packed from people who hop on at MOA.

We tried it once fairly early in the 2010 season and it was packed by the first commuter lot after the airport. Folks who had been on since the MOA said there were no seats and limited standing room even BEFORE they got to the airport.

CDog
08-06-2012, 09:10 PM
The main instigator was Michael Cuddyer who claimed the shadows from the trees made playing in the outfield 'dangerous'.

Any source for that? I am fairly certain he was someone who mentioned safety when it came to picking up the ball at the plate, but don't recall anyone ever making a comment about playing the outfield. I don't even see how they could have cast shadows onto the field, really. Were they backlit somehow and I don't remember that?

Agreed that there are a number of improvements that could be made to the restrooms. I typically don't use them, but they're not nearly on par with the rest of the place from an aesthetic or functionality standpoint.

Teflon
08-06-2012, 09:41 PM
Upgrade the Twins scoreboard and other electronic signage to full 3D. (Also introduce the first 3D players uniforms)

BrentMpls
08-06-2012, 10:15 PM
Any source for that?

I link it in this thread
http://twinsdaily.com/showthread.php?1385-Target-Field-s-black-batter-s-eye

jokin
08-06-2012, 10:31 PM
Given tonight's productive bats and the vast amount of bushes and trees in the backdrop at Progressive field, shouldn't the players soon be clamoring for bringing back the arbor to TF?

CDog
08-06-2012, 10:48 PM
I link it in this thread
http://twinsdaily.com/showthread.php?1385-Target-Field-s-black-batter-s-eye

Ahhh, thank you. As expected, his comments were about hitting and not about playing the outfield. Appreciate the link (or the link to the link!).