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Brock Beauchamp
07-31-2012, 03:08 PM
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Brock Beauchamp
07-31-2012, 04:24 PM
Twins:
Span CF
Mastroianni RF
Mauer DH
Willingham LF
Morneau 1B
Doumit C
Valencia 3B
Dozier SS
Carroll 2B
Blackburn P

Whiteys:
Somebody
Somebody Else
Another Guy
Infield Guy
Other Guy
Random Guy
That Guy
Who Cares
Liriano P

scottz
07-31-2012, 04:56 PM
"Tonight, we can count on at least one thing: the fans at Target Field are going to boo a pitcher."

If you are talking about Blackburn, I agree there is a good likelihood of that. I'd be shocked if anybody boos Frankie. Why would they? He didn't trade himself.

Brock Beauchamp
07-31-2012, 05:07 PM
I'd be shocked if anybody boos Frankie. Why would they? He didn't trade himself.

It could have something to do with over a half decade of peak-and-valley performance, non-chalant attitude, and general awfulness.

Rivas#1Fan
07-31-2012, 05:07 PM
Liriano will have an okay 6 innings. Per usual he'll be reaching 100 pitches before the end of the 6th.

Bark's Lounge
07-31-2012, 05:11 PM
Aw man, Revere is not in the Line-up. Even though he bats LH - if he found a way to get on base via a BB or Bunt/Infield Hit and instill fear with his speed. That could really have profound effect on the mental bearings of the White Sux starting pitcher, what his name.

Chance
07-31-2012, 05:25 PM
Bark- mastro runs pretty well himself. If he gets on base I'm sure Frankie will be a little concerned and that could mean a big night from Mauer and Willingham. One thing the twins know and probably why they didn't mind trading him within the division is they know what gets Frankie off track better than anyone.

Im just concerned that we the 6 runs well get wont be enough tonight

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 05:28 PM
I haven't been this excited for a Twins game since April.

Chance
07-31-2012, 05:35 PM
How about Gibson today in the GCL 3innings no hits 1 walk and 7K!!! Beautiful line. Also encouraging that he went 3 innings. Hope he feels good tomorrow.

Bark's Lounge
07-31-2012, 06:02 PM
Bark- mastro runs pretty well himself. If he gets on base I'm sure Frankie will be a little concerned and that could mean a big night from Mauer and Willingham. One thing the twins know and probably why they didn't mind trading him within the division is they know what gets Frankie off track better than anyone.

Im just concerned that we the 6 runs well get wont be enough tonight

I know.. Mastro has some quicks himself... Ben seems to have that extra gear and makes some fun stuff happen. My guess is that will take 8 to win it tonight.

James
07-31-2012, 06:07 PM
I'm a little surprised Revere isn't in the lineup as well. He actually has a better BA against lefty pitchers. He did steal a bunch last night... maybe he's tired.

Bark's Lounge
07-31-2012, 06:15 PM
I'm a little surprised Revere isn't in the lineup as well. He actually has a better BA against lefty pitchers. He did steal a bunch last night... maybe he's tired.

Poor Lil' Fella is pooped out:)

kydoty
07-31-2012, 06:26 PM
Either we're gonna see him give up 8 runs over three innings or throw a 4 hit shutout. It's never middle ground with this guy.

glunn
07-31-2012, 06:30 PM
How about Gibson today in the GCL 3innings no hits 1 walk and 7K!!! Beautiful line. Also encouraging that he went 3 innings. Hope he feels good tomorrow.

That is indeed good news. Also, Escobar (part of the fruit of the Liriano trade) had a good game for Rochester.

NorthwestTwinsFan
07-31-2012, 07:17 PM
Liriano in a White Sox uniform looks really, really strange.

glunn
07-31-2012, 07:22 PM
Liriano in a White Sox uniform looks really, really strange.

Hopefully he will be in the shower before the first inning is over.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 07:22 PM
We just lost the trade with that DP

Scheherezade
07-31-2012, 07:23 PM
Liriano made Mauer look silly on 3 pitches. Not a lot of guys who can do that.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 07:24 PM
Kinda funny that Liriano is now pitching to AJ

Rivas#1Fan
07-31-2012, 07:24 PM
Hopefully he will be in the shower before the first inning is over.

Now it's getting REALLY, REALLY, REALLY strange.

NorthwestTwinsFan
07-31-2012, 07:28 PM
There goes the perfect game. I thought this was going to be the night for Blackburn....oh well, maybe next start.

Brock Beauchamp
07-31-2012, 07:30 PM
I hate Nick Blackburn so much. Have I said that lately?

notoriousgod71
07-31-2012, 07:34 PM
Does anyone think we would have gotten the same exact players from Chicago had we traded them Blackburn?

snepp
07-31-2012, 07:34 PM
I hate Nick Blackburn so much. Have I said that lately?

I don't recall, but it doesn't hurt to say it again.

GCTF
07-31-2012, 07:36 PM
Does anyone think we would have gotten the same exact players from Chicago had we traded them Blackburn?

First I laughed, then I cried.

NorthwestTwinsFan
07-31-2012, 07:37 PM
Ya know, Blackburn is a terrible pitcher, but I just have a hard time hating him. He seems like a class act and never complains or makes excuses. I'll keep rooting for him to turn it around.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 07:37 PM
Liriano with the walk, here comes one more walk and the inevitable meatball down the plate for a 3 run HR

glunn
07-31-2012, 07:38 PM
Does anyone think we would have gotten the same exact players from Chicago had we traded them Blackburn?

I doubt that ANY team would take on Blackburn's contract, even for a bag of (old yellow) baseballs.

But I don't hate Blackburn. I think that he is trying his best.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 07:38 PM
Does anyone think we would have gotten the same exact players from Chicago had we traded them Blackburn?

Maybe if we included 100% of his contract and a PTBNL

glunn
07-31-2012, 07:38 PM
Liriano with the walk, here comes one more walk and the inevitable meatball down the plate for a 3 run HR

That would be VERY good.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 07:48 PM
Blackburn hasn't been that bad thus far.

Bark's Lounge
07-31-2012, 07:49 PM
If it is any consolation - at least the no hitter is out of play.

glunn
07-31-2012, 07:53 PM
If it is any consolation - at least the no hitter is out of play.

It would be more consolation if a foul ball would hit Ryan in the nuts.

NorthwestTwinsFan
07-31-2012, 08:01 PM
That pitch was about a foot inside.

Bark's Lounge
07-31-2012, 08:02 PM
It would be more consolation if a foul ball would hit Ryan in the nuts.

True Dat!

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 08:03 PM
Wow, that was a horse**** call.

I can't remember ever seeing Joe that angry.

Bark's Lounge
07-31-2012, 08:04 PM
At least Span seemingly has Liriano figured out.

NorthwestTwinsFan
07-31-2012, 08:09 PM
Twins are putting up a crooked number this inning. I'm calling it.

NorthwestTwinsFan
07-31-2012, 08:14 PM
Twins are putting up a crooked number this inning. I'm calling it.

That's the last time I make a prediction.

mikeee
07-31-2012, 08:14 PM
When does he implode again? I forgot...

snepp
07-31-2012, 08:15 PM
Is a zero crooked?

mikeee
07-31-2012, 08:19 PM
Liriano's pitch count is going up faster than Blackburn.
Maybe he'll only go 5 and some change...

Bark's Lounge
07-31-2012, 08:21 PM
Is a zero crooked?

If your trippin on acid or riding the wave of shrooms.

glunn
07-31-2012, 08:26 PM
If your trippin on acid or riding the wave of shrooms.

Ryan may have been doing both when he agreed to the trade.

Badsmerf
07-31-2012, 08:29 PM
Blackburn is actually throwing alright. He's been lucky a few times, but not bad.

edavis0308
07-31-2012, 08:31 PM
Bert just referenced the pitcher acquired in the Liriano deal as hopefully being a top of the rotation guy.

Why am I not surprised.

glunn
07-31-2012, 08:34 PM
Bert just referenced the pitcher acquired in the Liriano deal as hopefully being a top of the rotation guy.

Why am I not surprised.

I think that Bert gets paid extra to say stuff like that.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 08:38 PM
Bert just referenced the pitcher acquired in the Liriano deal as hopefully being a top of the rotation guy.

Why am I not surprised.

No he didn't.

crarko
07-31-2012, 08:38 PM
Who else is surprised to see this game 1-0 in the 6th? I'd have thought maybe 6-5. Both men throwing well.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 08:40 PM
Who else is surprised to see this game 1-0 in the 6th? I'd have thought maybe 6-5. Both men throwing well.

Yeah, if Blackburn can somehow become a decent #5 for this team it would be huge. We are spending the money anyways.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 08:40 PM
I have to say, I'd like to see Mastrionni get some playing time at 2B from time to time.

Rivas#1Fan
07-31-2012, 08:53 PM
Liriano will have an okay 6 innings. Per usual he'll be reaching 100 pitches before the end of the 6th.

Liriano pitched a little better than I had predicted.

Badsmerf
07-31-2012, 08:54 PM
I have to say, I'd like to see Mastrionni get some playing time at 2B from time to time.

Might as well see if he could cut it I guess. With the new defensive specialist, I doubt Casilla will be with this team next year. No need to have Dozier, Carroll, Casilla and defensive wizard acquired in the Liriano trade.

Bark's Lounge
07-31-2012, 09:07 PM
Ryan may have been doing both when he agreed to the trade.

Could be, but I am guessing he was hitting the crack rock.

Ultima Ratio
07-31-2012, 09:15 PM
Why can't Mauer turn on any pitch? This isn't the dome... still.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 09:16 PM
Blackburn had a really nice outing. Wish we would have gotten him some runs there.


Good game either way.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 09:21 PM
Might as well see if he could cut it I guess. With the new defensive specialist, I doubt Casilla will be with this team next year. No need to have Dozier, Carroll, Casilla and defensive wizard acquired in the Liriano trade.

I'm guessing that once Plouffe comes back they will trade Carroll or Casilla before the Aug 31st deadline. Escobar will be up at some point as well I imagine. I'd prefer they dump both Casilla and Caroll before the deadline to be honest. Caroll for straight up salary relief (A's could use him) and Casilla for anything

Top Gun
07-31-2012, 09:28 PM
The Twins are to cheap to sign Liriano, so how in the hell will they ever afford to sign a free sgent?

mikeee
07-31-2012, 09:32 PM
blah.
Jeff Gray.

NorthwestTwinsFan
07-31-2012, 09:34 PM
Burton, Perkins, Burnett, and Fien are all apparently unavailable tonight. Can't figure any other reason they put Gray in there.

Ultima Ratio
07-31-2012, 09:35 PM
Gray happens

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 09:35 PM
Why is Gray in this game?!

Ultima Ratio
07-31-2012, 09:35 PM
Did anyone think that wouldn't happen? Come on....

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 09:36 PM
Why the **** was ****ing gray in this game?
?????

Highabove
07-31-2012, 09:36 PM
Blackburn and the Twins battle all night, just to have it thrown away by a pitcher who should not even be on the staff.

snepp
07-31-2012, 09:37 PM
Gray happens


Why is Gray in this game?!


Did anyone think that wouldn't happen? Come on....


Careful, you'll get the Gray Brigade all worked up.

Ultima Ratio
07-31-2012, 09:37 PM
Maybe AJ can stick around after the game to show Mauer how to pull the ball (out of the stadium).

NorthwestTwinsFan
07-31-2012, 09:38 PM
Gray hadn't pitched in a while and needed some work. A 2-2 game in the ninth is as good a time as any I guess.

Ultima Ratio
07-31-2012, 09:38 PM
Why the **** was ****ing gray in this game?
?????
Like little league, it was his turn?

Highabove
07-31-2012, 09:38 PM
If it is so easy to find good Bullpen arms, why then is Gray on this team?

AJ
07-31-2012, 09:42 PM
Are you ****ing kidding me? Top of the 9th, tie game, middle of the order, you went with Gray???How many ****ing arms you have in the pen? Can't you get anyone better?

TheLeviathan
07-31-2012, 09:44 PM
Again I am baffled by Gray having a roster spot much less time in the 9th in a tied game.

Also count me in the Mastro at 2b trial - guy plays a solid offensive game if he can field it.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 09:48 PM
Maybe this was Gray's "last chance"
Hopefully it was. Bring up ANYONE with a potential future at this point.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 09:50 PM
Spankind! Here's a thought, how about if Revere continues to play well we trade Revere in the off-season and keep Span around?

snepp
07-31-2012, 09:50 PM
Reminds me of the mysterious Brian Bass 9th inning appearance.


I believe we concluded on BYTO that it was an "EFF-U" message from Gardy to the front office.

Ultima Ratio
07-31-2012, 09:50 PM
I for one am glad we've held on to Span and Revere. Now if only we could find a power hitting RF and move Hammer to DH and Doumit to back up C/bench bat.

Of course, in addition to lots of SP.

Bark's Lounge
07-31-2012, 09:51 PM
It seems that Ron was probably looking too far ahead in this ball game. That's ****ty way to go about it. I guess I don't understand why they have stuck with this guy. What does Gray have that a handful of guys in AAA don't have? What a waste.

snepp
07-31-2012, 09:51 PM
Time for Mauersie to earn that paycheck. :)

Ultima Ratio
07-31-2012, 09:52 PM
Time for Mauersie to earn that paycheck. :)
Calling the walk off?

Ultima Ratio
07-31-2012, 09:54 PM
Little bit over aggressive there Joe. Another shame of a game.

snepp
07-31-2012, 09:54 PM
Calling the walk off?

The walk-off bobbled grounder, poor flip, near collision barehanded catch.


Just like I envisioned it.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-31-2012, 09:54 PM
What a ****ty game, ****ing Jeff Gray I hope he is DFA'ed within the hour.

Top Gun
07-31-2012, 09:55 PM
Ryan could of had AJ for Butera but couldn't afford it!

NorthwestTwinsFan
07-31-2012, 09:55 PM
I'm racking my brain trying to come up with an excuse for why Gray was in the game.....and I got nothing.

ashburyjohn
07-31-2012, 09:57 PM
I believe we concluded on BYTO that it was an "EFF-U" message from Gardy to the front office.

No. It was so that Gray couldn't gripe about being "undefeated" when he is cut.

Top Gun
07-31-2012, 09:59 PM
Vagas bought this game.

Dilligaf69
07-31-2012, 10:02 PM
Offense failed them today...ton of men LOB and 2-9 with RISP....It's so frustrating this team can go on a tear offensively for 4 games and then do nothing.

Top Gun
07-31-2012, 10:09 PM
It's over with 2 months to go, when does football start? You can shut down the Target now!

one_eyed_jack
07-31-2012, 10:13 PM
This loss is so frustrating on so many levels, hard to know where to begin.

As soon as I saw Gray in the 9th, I knew it was over. The guy is just awful.

He's surrendered at least 1 run in 5 of his last 6 appearances, in which he's given up a total of 10 ER while only getting 15 outs.

There seriously isn't anyone better we can't put out there with the game on the line? I know some of the other guys have put in a lot of work lately, but not all of them.

Burnett pitched each of the last 2 days, but only threw a total of 19 pitches. He couldn't have gone out there for the 9th?

TheLeviathan
07-31-2012, 10:27 PM
I love Spannzie but good god his ineptitude at swiping bases really limits his value to thhe team. A guy like him has to be able to take second there. Or at least be a legit threat.