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Thrylos
07-27-2012, 05:09 PM
7 days after the fact the day after an off-day leaving the Twins short for a week (and a day.) Nothing new, but something's gotta change with this team. And I don't know if it the medical stuff or the field management staff, but someone is grossly at fault here...

darin617
07-27-2012, 05:20 PM
Oh great, now we have to put up with Danny Valencia again. Maybe he finally figured it out but I doubt it, .250 and 7 HR for Rochester is not worthy of a promotion to replace Plouffe on the roster.

70charger
07-27-2012, 05:25 PM
Oh great, now we have to put up with Danny Valencia again. Maybe he finally figured it out but I doubt it, .250 and 7 HR for Rochester is not worthy of a promotion to replace Plouffe on the roster.

Is this a given? Can't we shift Carroll over? Play Casilla at second? We do have some flexibility without Plouffe.

Thrylos
07-27-2012, 05:26 PM
Danny V up looks like

Jocko87
07-27-2012, 05:27 PM
7 days after the fact the day after an off-day leaving the Twins short for a week (and a day.) Nothing new, but something's gotta change with this team. And I don't know if it the medical stuff or the field management staff, but someone is grossly at fault here...

This is an improvement, I was expecting him to get one at bat tonight then off to the DL.

Danchat
07-27-2012, 05:27 PM
Oh great, now we have to put up with Danny Valencia again. Maybe he finally figured it out but I doubt it, .250 and 7 HR for Rochester is not worthy of a promotion to replace Plouffe on the roster.
It's next to offical, Valencia wasn't in the lineup in Rochester and likely coming back.
Who else do you want playing 3rd base? Casilla? Want to call up Nishi? Might as well give Valencia a chance, and we can send him back if/when he sputters.

JB_Iowa
07-27-2012, 05:32 PM
This is an improvement, I was expecting him to get one at bat tonight then off to the DL.

Chuckle. Its always nice when you can find something positive in bad Twins news.

Handling of the DL boggles the mind.

jctwins
07-27-2012, 05:37 PM
Danny V up looks like

This is good. Let the cocky little prick flail away at major league pitching and be done once and for all.

70charger
07-27-2012, 05:38 PM
Danny V up looks like


Well, lemonade from lemons, maybe he goes on a mini-tear and becomes a toss-in for a Liriano trade?

Highabove
07-27-2012, 06:02 PM
Don't forget about Sean Burroughs

If the Organization really wants to slap around Valencia, this is the move.

J-Dog Dungan
07-27-2012, 06:04 PM
Well, lemonade from lemons, maybe he goes on a mini-tear and becomes a toss-in for a Liriano trade?

I don't think anyone in history could accumulate trade value that fast (assuming that Danny V. isn't playing tonight, that leaves about 2 games for him to get his trade value up.) The only way that would happen would be if he hit home runs in every at bat in the next two games, which not even Josh Hamilton can do.

greengoblinrulz
07-27-2012, 06:04 PM
Burroughs isnt on 40 man roster, so Danny gets one more shot.

Seth Stohs
07-27-2012, 06:09 PM
I hope Valencia comes up and does really well. I know what the general theme is about Valencia and what the media portrays him as. However, having talked to him many times and had him on podcasts and do Q&As, I think that he is a very smart, confident, good person. I guess maybe that's a different perspective than others want to have about him based on media or other assumptions, but Valencia is not a bad person and it annoys me that there are people who would hope for failure.

Thrylos
07-27-2012, 06:22 PM
I hope Valencia comes up and does really well. I know what the general theme is about Valencia and what the media portrays him as. However, having talked to him many times and had him on podcasts and do Q&As, I think that he is a very smart, confident, good person. I guess maybe that's a different perspective than others want to have about him based on media or other assumptions, but Valencia is not a bad person and it annoys me that there are people who would hope for failure.

+1

From some of the comments here one would think that Danny murdered someone's children or something. Remember: He was essential to the Twins wining the title in 2010. He had a slump. Everybody does, including some of the "crowd favorites" Twins. But he is not in Gardy's inner circle so he has been thrown under the bus...

And wishing a Twins' player failure by Twins' fans is totally inane. It's like rooting for the Sux. And kicking someone when he is down is not only bad karma, but it is cowardly... just sayin'

But of course, these are the same people who wanted Plouffe DFA'd last season and now that he is hitting HRs everything is fine...

freightmaster
07-27-2012, 06:28 PM
It's next to offical, Valencia wasn't in the lineup in Rochester and likely coming back.
Who else do you want playing 3rd base? Casilla? Want to call up Nishi? Might as well give Valencia a chance, and we can send him back if/when he sputters.

Debinson Romero or is it robinson at New Britain, lets give him a chance, we know valencia, and we do not want

mike wants wins
07-27-2012, 06:36 PM
hahahahahaha, the more things don't change, the more they stay the same. But really, no problems with how they handle injuries, it really doesn't hurt them at all how they handle them, over and over and over.

Winston Smith
07-27-2012, 06:40 PM
Nothing new with the wait for a week dl trip. Lets hope Valencia does well we really need any ML level talent we can find if he can get back to that.

Bark's Lounge
07-27-2012, 06:43 PM
Damn, this is bad news. Plouffe is one of the few reasons to watch this team this season. I agree with most of you that there is something amiss with the medical staff of the Twins with diagnosing injuries correctly in an expedient manner and making the right decisions for a course of action to take. In Plouffe's case, I cannot blame them for holding out because of his value to our lineup and the nature of the injury he had... it sucks... what do you do? Good Luck Danny V.

mike wants wins
07-27-2012, 06:47 PM
Who cares about the "value to the lineup" when you are going to lose 90 games? You DL the guy, so he stays healthy for the long term. The lack of strategic thinking in the Twins front office is astounding.

Winston Smith
07-27-2012, 06:52 PM
Who cares about the "value to the lineup" when you are going to lose 90 games? You DL the guy, so he stays healthy for the long term. The lack of strategic thinking in the Twins front office is astounding.

+++++++

greengoblinrulz
07-27-2012, 07:01 PM
I hope Valencia comes up and does really well. I know what the general theme is about Valencia and what the media portrays him as. However, having talked to him many times and had him on podcasts and do Q&As, I think that he is a very smart, confident, good person. I guess maybe that's a different perspective than others want to have about him based on media or other assumptions, but Valencia is not a bad person and it annoys me that there are people who would hope for failure.
Not a Danny hater at all but most of the 'hatred' towards him is that he has done NOTHING at ROC to warrant a re-promotion while guys like Parmellee/Hendriks went down & dominated (showing they can be major league players). Valencia does hit lefties well & may have a future as a platoon backup corner infielder but he's never gonna be a starter again. Too bad cause he once had some promise but nobody in the organization loves Danny as much as Danny does!!!

Bark's Lounge
07-27-2012, 07:03 PM
It's not as if he broke his leg. It is a jammed thumb.1682

Riverbrian
07-27-2012, 07:04 PM
I hope Danny puts it together. Just needs to be a gamer and he can turn it around.

70charger
07-27-2012, 07:30 PM
I don't think anyone in history could accumulate trade value that fast (assuming that Danny V. isn't playing tonight, that leaves about 2 games for him to get his trade value up.) The only way that would happen would be if he hit home runs in every at bat in the next two games, which not even Josh Hamilton can do.

Yeah you're right. Deadline is too close, but maybe get some value going and be a part of an offseason move.

James
07-27-2012, 07:41 PM
Well, that sucks. Get healthy Plouffe!

As far as Danny V goes, let's hope he starts tearing the cover off the ball. I'd rather have the problem of too many players playing well than not enough guys playing.

edavis0308
07-27-2012, 07:57 PM
Not a Danny hater at all but most of the 'hatred' towards him is that he has done NOTHING at ROC to warrant a re-promotion while guys like Parmellee/Hendriks went down & dominated (showing they can be major league players). Valencia does hit lefties well & may have a future as a platoon backup corner infielder but he's never gonna be a starter again. Too bad cause he once had some promise but nobody in the organization loves Danny as much as Danny does!!!

Yep. Its not so much hating Danny as it is he hasn't earned his way back after his poor play at the major league level...along with guys like Parm that are crushing when they get sent down. (obviously positional need is involved also)

MNTWINSFAN
07-27-2012, 08:02 PM
Let's hope time spent in the minors motivates Danny. He is better than what the twins have now in the infield. Jamey Carroll batting .236 with ZERO homers. Dozier batting .236 and 14 errors. Casilla batting .222 with 16 RBI's. Even the 2011 Valencia with .246 with 15 homers and 72 RBI's is better than what we have now.

diehardtwinsfan
07-27-2012, 08:15 PM
Well, that sucks. Get healthy Plouffe!

As far as Danny V goes, let's hope he starts tearing the cover off the ball. I'd rather have the problem of too many players playing well than not enough guys playing.

If by some chance that happens, you might see Plouffe back up the middle.

James
07-27-2012, 08:37 PM
If by some chance that happens, you might see Plouffe back up the middle.
If that were the situation, would you put him at SS and move Dozier to 2B, or move Plouffe to 2B.

Or, a third option, send Dozier down to AAA to figure out some things...

greengoblinrulz
07-27-2012, 08:40 PM
Dont think Plouffe will ever see significant time at SS ever again. Still pretty choppy @ 3B, but its his first extended time there. 2B could be an option tho.
Dont expect Danny to explode tho....doesnt happen after 2 lackluster yrs very often

James
07-27-2012, 08:45 PM
Dont think Plouffe will ever see significant time at SS ever again. Still pretty choppy @ 3B, but its his first extended time there. 2B could be an option tho.
Dont expect Danny to explode tho....doesnt happen after 2 lackluster yrs very often
I really don't expect Danny V to do much with his time. It was just a hypothetical question. I expect that Danny V will probably play very similar to what we've seen from him in 2011 and 2012.

But if he did explode, that would be fun to watch.

mike wants wins
07-27-2012, 09:01 PM
Not move Plouffe, he's finally comfy.

old nurse
07-27-2012, 09:21 PM
But if he did explode, that would be fun to watch.
Some here would hope you mean it like a drummer for Spinal Tap.

Dilligaf69
07-27-2012, 09:48 PM
7 days after the fact the day after an off-day leaving the Twins short for a week (and a day.) Nothing new, but something's gotta change with this team. And I don't know if it the medical stuff or the field management staff, but someone is grossly at fault here...


I don't know if it's either in most cases.....if Plouffe said he's basically been playing with it all yr and he thinks he just needs a few days then what do you do???? it's by all indications just a bone bruise. The move is backdated and we had players to fill in so really what's the big deal.. it's not like were in contention and this hurt us plus the alternative is Valencia..not great.

James
07-27-2012, 10:06 PM
Some here would hope you mean it like a drummer for Spinal Tap.
Some might. I don't think Valencia's amps go to 11 though.

glunn
07-27-2012, 10:20 PM
I agree with most of you that there is something amiss with the medical staff of the Twins with diagnosing injuries correctly in an expedient manner and making the right decisions for a course of action to take.

The Twins medical staff uses only the most modern methods -- (http://youtu.be/KwQR0XAL_2Y)

Loosey
07-27-2012, 11:21 PM
Not that backdating the injury a few days matters much, but the fact that the Twins announced today they believed Plouffe would be back in the lineup and then put him on the DL scares me. How can a medical staff have a guy who has been injured for a week, then think he will play today only to DL him? This is a recurring theme, Player gets dinged up, Training staff says, "should miss a game or two", Player misses a week of games, Then player is put on the DL retroactive to the day he was injured. Something is amiss. . .

Rosterman
07-27-2012, 11:51 PM
I don't harbor ill-will about waiting out Plouffe. It was a thumb injury. Just needed to see how long before he could field/throw or swing a bat consistently. If it had made a difference, he could've pinch-hit in the Chicago series. But now the decision is to give hum some additional time and, hell, let's take another look at Valencia. He is on payroll major league $$$$.