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John Bonnes
07-27-2012, 12:13 PM
I was asked this morning on KFAN where I thought Liriano would end up. I replied Atlanta; I don't think they'll get Greinke (the Rangers will) and they'll turn to Liriano. But there are literally another 10 choices:

Red Sox
Angels
Rangers
Blue Jays
Dodgers
Orioles
Nationals
Mets
Blue Jays
and of course, the Twins.

If you have to pick a team, who would it be?

TKGuy
07-27-2012, 12:19 PM
Orioles, for one of Arreita, Matusz or Tillman and some B prospects.

Bark's Lounge
07-27-2012, 12:20 PM
In the last few weeks I might have mentioned Liriano to the Yanks for a package built around David Phelps. As of now that seems like a super stretch. I still think he will go to the NYY but not for much.

TheLeviathan
07-27-2012, 12:24 PM
I'm guessing Baltimore - Matusz, Tyler wilson, and Robert Hinton. Trying to be optimistic.

Nebtwinsfan
07-27-2012, 12:28 PM
I would actually say Giants but there is a part of me that would like them to sign him to a two or three year deal if it is a good deal for the Twins financially

Thrylos
07-27-2012, 12:39 PM
A team not in the list: Pirates in a package with Span for two of the young Pirates' pitching prospects plus a hitting prospect.

Riverbrian
07-27-2012, 12:52 PM
Something tells me Angels... Too bad that something is always questionable.

James
07-27-2012, 12:59 PM
I wouldn't be surprised with Atlanta at all. But the Angels or the Orioles would be my other two choices for destinations.

I really don't know what any of those clubs would end up giving us for him, as there have been a lot of names thrown out there.

glanzer
07-27-2012, 01:00 PM
Nowhere. I'm beginning to think Liriano stays put and is offered that 1-year deal in hopes of obtaining the draft pick.

nicksaviking
07-27-2012, 01:06 PM
A team not in the list: Pirates in a package with Span for two of the young Pirates' pitching prospects plus a hitting prospect.

I like this idea best but with the promotion of Marte, the Pirates have improved thier OF and leadoff spot. Perhaps the Liriano/Span combo could be dangled to the Rangers or Nationals.

My bet is also with the Angles. Last report was they somehow thought they could get James Shields for Peter Bourjos and Hank Conger. That's a pretty lowball offer. They'll continue to refuse to give up anything of real importance and will settle for Liriano. I'll bet the Twins get someone(s) who we have yet to consider. Maybe Cam Bedrosian, the front office love the sons of former Twins.

Jeremy Nygaard
07-27-2012, 01:17 PM
I was asked this morning on KFAN where I thought Liriano would end up. I replied Atlanta; I don't think they'll get Greinke (the Rangers will) and they'll turn to Liriano. But there are literally another 10 choices:

Red Sox
Angels
Rangers
Blue Jays
Dodgers
Orioles
Nationals
Mets
Blue Jays
and of course, the Twins.

If you have to pick a team, who would it be?

Are the Blue Jays the favorite because they're mentioned twice? :P

I think the Rangers are going to make a move on a pitcher, but without bending on including Ort or Perez, they're going to miss out on the big fish (Greinke and Shields). I think that leaves Liriano and the Twins. I don't know what the cost would be, but I'm going to throw out high-A SP Roman Mendez and rookie-league SS Luis Marte.

DPJ
07-27-2012, 01:19 PM
The Cleveland Native Americans.

diehardtwinsfan
07-27-2012, 01:37 PM
I think Atlanta or NY.

Blake
07-27-2012, 01:51 PM
Liriano goes to Texas because Texas doesn't want to deal with Greinke's mental issues. I suspect Greinke would rather not have to deal with the Texas market. I also think Texas will avoid Greinke because they already have enough trouble riding herd on Josh Hamilton.

I think Liriano would benefit greatly pitching under the likes of Nolan Ryan.

Because I've a perfect track record with my predictions, I'm quite sure I'm wildly wrong.

mike wants wins
07-27-2012, 01:54 PM
Nowhere, because "we didn't think any of the offers were fair for a player of Liriano's stature and abilities. We hope to re-sign him, as we look forward to building a better rotation in 2013. Go buy some tickets". But then, I'm having a crappy work week, so maybe I'm just jaded.....really, I think he ends up in Anaheim/LA/whatever they are called. And we'll go "that's all he could get"....

Boom Boom
07-27-2012, 01:58 PM
Nowhere, because "we didn't think any of the offers were fair for a player of Liriano's stature and abilities. We hope to re-sign him, as we look forward to building a better rotation in 2013. Go buy some tickets". But then, I'm having a crappy work week, so maybe I'm just jaded.....really, I think he ends up in Anaheim/LA/whatever they are called. And we'll go "that's all he could get"....

That's my prediction too - to the Angels, maybe for a so-so AA starter and Jim Hoey II.

mbents
07-27-2012, 02:22 PM
The Braves seem like the most obvious answer.......which is why I say it'll be the Dodgers. Liriano for some projected mid-rotation starter and we'll all be happy with that.

PMKI
07-27-2012, 02:29 PM
I didn't really feel like making a new thread for this but I guess Perkins is drawing some interest. From Jon Morosi tweeted "Heavy interest in #Twins lefty Glen Perkins. He's been dealing this month, good contract. MIN asking price very high."

James
07-27-2012, 02:36 PM
I like this idea best but with the promotion of Marte, the Pirates have improved thier OF and leadoff spot. Perhaps the Liriano/Span combo could be dangled to the Rangers or Nationals.
I'm hoping that the promotion of Marte causes Cincinnati to overreact and give up many prospects for Span. That or Span stays around. But the overpay would be good too.

I think that the Twins would probably get more overall by not packaging Span and Liriano together. But I could be terribly wrong as well.

gunnarthor
07-27-2012, 02:44 PM
Baltimore for one of their "failed" starters.

Nick Nelson
07-27-2012, 03:12 PM
I didn't really feel like making a new thread for this but I guess Perkins is drawing some interest. From Jon Morosi tweeted "Heavy interest in #Twins lefty Glen Perkins. He's been dealing this month, good contract. MIN asking price very high."

No one's off-limits, but it would really suck to give up Perkins. He's a reliever to build around.

gmarais66
07-27-2012, 03:55 PM
To the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters for a hot-hitting shortstop...

PseudoSABR
07-27-2012, 04:11 PM
I think the O's too.

Thrylos
07-27-2012, 04:15 PM
No one's off-limits, but it would really suck to give up Perkins. He's a reliever to build around.

Agreed, and he has been kinda filling the Cuddyer role of team spokesman after Cuddyer left for greener pastures. And the Twins do not have many who has throw as hard as Perk can in the majors. And he is a home town guy.

On the other hand, let's play devil's advocate and admit that this team is building up for 2014-5. At that point he will be past his prime and very likely LHPs such as Melotakis (who is PMKI in E-town and Beloit and could be NB-bound next season), Jones (who PMKI as a starter in E-town), C. Williams, J. Gonzalez or Matt Thomsaw could replace him and Duensing can step up meanwhile as the primary LH setup man.

If he brings back something like a potential #2 or #3 starter for 2014-15 (which, other than Gibson, I am not sure this team has for that timeframe right now), I would be a no-brainer to trade him in my book. But a very unpopular move. And still I am not sure that the Twins' management forgot some of the issues with Perkins (he sued the team :) )

70charger
07-27-2012, 05:36 PM
Liriano goes to Texas because Texas doesn't want to deal with Greinke's mental issues. I suspect Greinke would rather not have to deal with the Texas market. I also think Texas will avoid Greinke because they already have enough trouble riding herd on Josh Hamilton.

I think Liriano would benefit greatly pitching under the likes of Nolan Ryan.

Because I've a perfect track record with my predictions, I'm quite sure I'm wildly wrong.

Yep, you don't want to have to deal with a head case, so you go Liriano. For sure. (Not picking on you, but I found it chuckle-worthy.)

Personally I think the Orioles.

mike wants wins
07-27-2012, 06:38 PM
Guess I was right the first time, he's not traded for anything of use at all. The Angels are off the market, and TX will now counter by getting Josh Johnson.....

Bark's Lounge
07-27-2012, 06:51 PM
Forgive me for straying out of the Liriano trade returns conversation for a moment. As was rumored last year - maybe the Twins will trade Denard to D.C. for Lombo, Jr. and Drew Storens. I know this will make a lot of the TD participants angry, but they will most definitely convert Storens into a starter. That appears to be the new trend this organization is trying to make fashionable.:confused:

Dilligaf69
07-27-2012, 09:51 PM
Orioles, for one of Arreita, Matusz or Tillman and some B prospects.


All of them have been MEH!....and so has Liriano for the most part until recently...is it really an upgrade for them or us??

Pius Jefferson
07-27-2012, 11:12 PM
Liriano for Gilmartin, Graham and another prospect.

johnnydakota
07-27-2012, 11:24 PM
span and either perkin or doumit go to the reds for hamilton , corcino and cingrani

John Bonnes
07-27-2012, 11:32 PM
span and either perkin or doumit go to the reds for hamilton , corcino and cingrani

CIN doesn't give up Hamilton straight up or Span & Perk, IMHO, let alone add the other two.

Bark's Lounge
07-27-2012, 11:51 PM
span and either perkin or doumit go to the reds for hamilton , corcino and cingrani

Poppycock Dear Sir... straight and simple Poppycock.

Snortwood
07-28-2012, 01:17 AM
Twins re-sign Liriano. Pair him with Diamond for a solid two-fifths of a rotation.

Going along they hope one guy trying out this year has the major league talent and gets the seasoning needed to contribute long-term, then they sign an FA and develop one kid for the upcoming season. And that's their not too expensive but workable plan for next year. Diamond & Liriano, DeVries or DeDuno. An FA (Timmy Lincecum!!! Just wait - the math works!) and a kid from the minors. And that's the Twins' plan for the rotation in 2013. Two starters getting paid big bucks, Blackburn carried if nobody takes him, Capps & Pavano & Baker (= $Timmy!) & any other salaries in that bullpen are gone.

Well - signing Lincecum is a pipedream. And they would have to pay Frankie alot more to keep him, and he may not be worth what he's willing to sign for. But with an ace leading into Diamond, Liriano, and a couple of decent arms the Twins would not be easily dismissed. Especially if Morneau is back. Package Span, Parmelee & Dozier and maybe a minor league arm or OF for a shortstop with real ability. And that's a decent team. Could happen.

And with that, a happy g'nite to all.

alarp33
07-28-2012, 01:24 AM
Twins re-sign Liriano. Pair him with Diamond for a solid two-fifths of a rotation.

Going along they hope one guy trying out this year has the major league talent and gets the seasoning needed to contribute long-term, then they sign an FA and develop one kid for the upcoming season. And that's their not too expensive but workable plan for next year. Diamond & Liriano, DeVries or DeDuno. An FA (Timmy Lincecum!!! Just wait - the math works!) and a kid from the minors. And that's the Twins' plan for the rotation in 2013. Two starters getting paid big bucks, Blackburn carried if nobody takes him, Capps & Pavano & Baker (= $Timmy!) & any other salaries in that bullpen are gone.

Well - signing Lincecum is a pipedream. And they would have to pay Frankie alot more to keep him, and he may not be worth what he's willing to sign for. But with an ace leading into Diamond, Liriano, and a couple of decent arms the Twins would not be easily dismissed. Especially if Morneau is back. Package Span, Parmelee & Dozier and maybe a minor league arm or OF for a shortstop with real ability. And that's a decent team. Could happen.

And with that, a happy g'nite to all.


Signing Lincecum is definitely a pipedream, seeing as he isn't a free agent

Top Gun
07-28-2012, 01:59 AM
It's time to trade Pouffe.