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Brock Beauchamp
07-24-2012, 03:43 PM
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Brock Beauchamp
07-24-2012, 03:58 PM
Twins:
Span CF
Mastroianni RF
Mauer 1B
Willingham LF
Morneau DH
Doumit C
Dozier SS
Casilla 2B
Carroll 3B
(De Vries P)

Whiteys:
De Aza CF
Youkilis 3B
Dunn DH
Konerko 1B
Rios RF
Ramirez SS
Viciedo LF
Flowers C
Beckham 2B
(Quintana P)

snepp
07-24-2012, 07:11 PM
I hate the White Sox.


Carry on.

snepp
07-24-2012, 07:26 PM
*sigh*


Well that makes up for his good game in the field yesterday.

Brock Beauchamp
07-24-2012, 07:28 PM
Whoooo! Twins Baseball!

USAFChief
07-24-2012, 07:55 PM
Not a fan of a 2 out bunt with a runner on base.

Brock Beauchamp
07-24-2012, 07:56 PM
Really making Quintana work out there... 33 pitches in three innings.

mike wants wins
07-24-2012, 08:01 PM
And to think, there were people arguing here just a month ago that this team was just a player or two away. You have to do what the Marlins do, and deal all the vets and get lots of young guys.

ChiTownTwinsFan
07-24-2012, 08:02 PM
I hate the White Sox.


Carry on.
At least you don't live among their fans

Brock Beauchamp
07-24-2012, 08:08 PM
Have the Twins gotten the ball out of the infield?

GCTF
07-24-2012, 08:10 PM
That was crushed.

Brock Beauchamp
07-24-2012, 08:10 PM
Have the Twins gotten the ball out of the infield?

On cue.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-24-2012, 08:14 PM
Wow, Morneau was clearly safe. More ****ty umpiring.

snepp
07-24-2012, 08:16 PM
Figures, I was out of the room.

snepp
07-24-2012, 08:46 PM
https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkBdxvnfNcU-08Pscrmg4bWdbK9pONplWMgoGOv87wrzzRsLmS (http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=1tr&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1920&bih=1019&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsa&tbnid=IaNN1irfeHE_2M:&imgrefurl=http://cmgonline.com/news/2012/06/15/friday-fudge-50/&docid=9ej4j6x9Y9rDwM&imgurl=http://cmgonline.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/8.1257031381.stop-hammer-time.jpg&w=550&h=413&ei=5E8PULWZHYPk2AXA84HYCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=622&vpy=668&dur=983&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=147&ty=82&sig=114803619796806190094&page=1&tbnh=159&tbnw=204&start=0&ndsp=47&ved=1t:429,r:31,s:0,i:240)

USAFChief
07-24-2012, 08:46 PM
Slow night at TD.

Atta way, 'hammer.

twinsnorth49
07-24-2012, 08:46 PM
Can't touch this!!!!!!

GCTF
07-24-2012, 08:46 PM
That was crushed (parte deux).

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-24-2012, 08:47 PM
Apparenlty my MLB.tv is on a delay, its 1-1 to Willingham now.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-24-2012, 08:49 PM
No doubter!

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-24-2012, 08:49 PM
Morneau now 2 for 2 against a LHP tonight.

Super Super encouraging.

ChiTownTwinsFan
07-24-2012, 08:50 PM
Okay much better game to be at tonight than lady night ... so far

twinsnorth49
07-24-2012, 08:52 PM
Was that Mornie slapping a sharp double against a lefty? He can't do that!!!!

USAFChief
07-24-2012, 08:53 PM
Okay much better game to be at tonight than lady night ... so far

I don't know...lady night sounds interesting.

twinsnorth49
07-24-2012, 08:58 PM
I don't know...lady night sounds interesting.


I like baseball.......but I like ladies more.

chuchadoro
07-24-2012, 09:00 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d3/Please_Hammer_Don%27t_Hurt_%27Em.jpg/220px-Please_Hammer_Don%27t_Hurt_%27Em.jpg

twinsnorth49
07-24-2012, 09:06 PM
Is anybody else thinking that DeVries is doing the opposite of bad? That's the best I could do without putting on the jinx.

ChiTownTwinsFan
07-24-2012, 09:07 PM
I don't know...lady night sounds interesting.
lol that should've said last night

And the stupid wave came through just in time to block Span's catch. I hate the wave

mikeee
07-24-2012, 09:08 PM
wow, double hammer!

USAFChief
07-24-2012, 09:13 PM
lol that should've said last night

And the stupid wave came through just in time to block Span's catch. I hate the wave

Redundant.

GCTF
07-24-2012, 09:24 PM
That is BS right there, BS

That is BS.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-24-2012, 09:24 PM
Harrelson is such a douche bag.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-24-2012, 09:25 PM
I love me a good Hawk melt down.

ChiTownTwinsFan
07-24-2012, 09:26 PM
Was that a good over call?

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-24-2012, 09:27 PM
Was that a good over call?

Honestly it's tough to tell, I thought he caught it and his glove was underneath it. You are missing a great Hawk meltdown.

"That is BS, That is BS" x 5
"Man I wish I could cuss right now"

Ultima Ratio
07-24-2012, 09:28 PM
Walks kill...

twinsnorth49
07-24-2012, 09:28 PM
Oh for F***s sake!!!!!

GCTF
07-24-2012, 09:28 PM
Damn, from a Hawk meltdown to a Hawk homer call in a matter of minutes.

Highabove
07-24-2012, 09:30 PM
Robertson is a junk ball soft tosser which the Twins have plenty of.
There's better in Rochester

Winston Smith
07-24-2012, 09:31 PM
Dick and Coomer need to stop trashing Dunn.

snepp
07-24-2012, 09:33 PM
Dick and Coomer need to stop trashing Dunn.

Have you heard how often he strikes out?


Here, let me tell you about it.....

twinsnorth49
07-24-2012, 09:33 PM
Well this is turning out awesome!!

IdahoPilgrim
07-24-2012, 09:34 PM
Have we time-warped back into 2011? What's happened to our bullpen the past couple of weeks?

ChiTownTwinsFan
07-24-2012, 09:34 PM
Well gosh darn. Insert stronger words there and that's what I'm really saying

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-24-2012, 09:35 PM
Willingham with his best Delmon "Wallp***y" routine on that one.

snepp
07-24-2012, 09:35 PM
They gotta do this ****ing inning over again because they just ****ed it up.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-24-2012, 09:36 PM
Have we time-warped back into 2011? What's happened to our bullpen the past couple of weeks?

I'm not really worried that guys like Fien and Robertson are struggling, both are pretty "meh" pitchers who never figured into any sort of long term plans anyways.

Color me concerned if Duensing, Perkins and Burton all start looking awful.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-24-2012, 09:37 PM
Yeah....Willingham prob needs to start DHing more, he is a freaking embarrassment out there.

Dilligaf69
07-24-2012, 09:38 PM
I'm not really worried that guys like Fien and Robertson are struggling, both are pretty "meh" pitchers who never figured into any sort of long term plans anyways.

Color me concerned if Duensing, Perkins and Burton all start looking awful.

Well Fien wasn't before this inning.

Dilligaf69
07-24-2012, 09:39 PM
another tough no decision for Cole who has been impressive.

USAFChief
07-24-2012, 09:41 PM
The soft underbelly of the Twins bullpen rears it's ugly head yet again.

ChiTownTwinsFan
07-24-2012, 09:43 PM
another tough no decision for Cole who has been impressive.

Why was he done so early? Pitch count?

snepp
07-24-2012, 09:43 PM
The legend of Jeff Gray grows a little more tonight.

Badsmerf
07-24-2012, 09:44 PM
The soft underbelly of the Twins bullpen rears it's ugly head yet again.

Like a bloated pufferfish, they blow up and just kind of wave their fins around.

striker_86
07-24-2012, 09:49 PM
brutal 7th inning. At least we have seen a couple good starts by the youngsters Deduno and DeVries

twinsnorth49
07-24-2012, 09:49 PM
For all the moaning about the SP, we sure have blown a few decent starts as of late.

TheLeviathan
07-24-2012, 09:51 PM
For all the moaning about the SP, we sure have blown a few decent starts as of late.

So you're saying we should be buyers?

IdahoPilgrim
07-24-2012, 09:56 PM
Why was he done so early? Pitch count?

I was wondering about that myself. I was reading somewhere (KFAN website?) that the Twins are going to change their approach and try to get their starters to go deeper, average around 115-120 pitches per game, because of the overuse the bullpen has been getting.

So why pull DeVries at 95 pitches with a 2-run lead? He certainly couldn't have done any worse than the bullpen did.

Ultima Ratio
07-24-2012, 10:00 PM
Gray happens

USAFChief
07-24-2012, 10:01 PM
Gray happens


Well played.

Badsmerf
07-24-2012, 10:02 PM
Wow, Willingham is being exposed in the field tonight.

Winston Smith
07-24-2012, 10:03 PM
This Dunn guy sure strikes out a lot.

snepp
07-24-2012, 10:04 PM
Uncle, uncle.

IdahoPilgrim
07-24-2012, 10:05 PM
Wow, Willingham is being exposed in the field tonight.

True, but then that's not why we got him. I see him as a bridge for a couple of years until some of the talent in the minors [insert derisive laugh here] is ready.

snepp
07-24-2012, 10:10 PM
1651

Ultima Ratio
07-24-2012, 10:13 PM
When we found out that Hammer would not adjust to RF, we learned all we needed to know about his defense. Yes, reports were that Revere played better in RF than LF for whatever reason, we really have two DHs/spot backups on this team... a far cry from the so-called Twins way... but that hasn't been the way of things in some years now.

Ultima Ratio
07-24-2012, 10:15 PM
This is pathetic.

snepp
07-24-2012, 10:19 PM
This is pathetic.

Stat!

USAFChief
07-24-2012, 10:19 PM
When we found out that Hammer would not adjust to RF, we learned all we needed to know about his defense. Yes, reports were that Revere played better in RF than LF for whatever reason, we really have two DHs/spot backups on this team... a far cry from the so-called Twins way... but that hasn't been the way of things in some years now.

Willingham's defense isn't the reason they lost tonight, and isn't the reason they're a million games under .500.

Corner OF defense just isn't worth losing any sleep over.

Ultima Ratio
07-24-2012, 10:23 PM
Willingham's defense isn't the reason they lost tonight, and isn't the reason they're a million games under .500.

Corner OF defense just isn't worth losing any sleep over.

Never claimed either were the case. There are much bigger problems but this is a problem worth addressing. We can walk and chew gum and play good defense at the same time. :)

USAFChief
07-24-2012, 10:48 PM
Never claimed either were the case. There are much bigger problems but this is a problem worth addressing. We can walk and chew gum and play good defense at the same time. :)

How, exactly?

Ultima Ratio
07-24-2012, 10:54 PM
How, exactly?
Having Willingham DH. Sorry if that was not clear.

USAFChief
07-24-2012, 11:10 PM
Having Willingham DH. Sorry if that was not clear.

I think that just creates a logjam on a team where Mauer only catches 50% of the time, and you have Doumit and Morneau.

I don't think Willingham in left hurts you much in the long run.

Ultima Ratio
07-24-2012, 11:16 PM
I think that just creates a logjam on a team where Mauer only catches 50% of the time, and you have Doumit and Morneau.

I don't think Willingham in left hurts you much in the long run.

I would use RF as the rotating position. If we keep Span, then put Revere in LF full time and have Mauer in RF when not catching (rather than using him at 1st and DH). Then Doumit would be catching with Hammer at DH. Depending on match ups you use Doumit/Hammer/Parmelee in RF when Mauer is catching (until FA pickup or young player is ready to play RF).

glunn
07-24-2012, 11:29 PM
This is pathetic.

How much worse can this season get?

ChiTownTwinsFan
07-24-2012, 11:36 PM
This is pathetic.

At least you didn't see it live, two nights in a row, surrounded by White Sox fans. And to the bitter end each night.

Ultima Ratio
07-25-2012, 12:36 AM
How much worse can this season get?
I don't know. Will it be worse, record wise, than last? Depends on what we do trade wise, but I'm all but totally disinterested at this point.

Ultima Ratio
07-25-2012, 12:37 AM
At least you didn't see it live, two nights in a row, surrounded by White Sox fans. And to the bitter end each night.
That's an unenviable situation in a loss, but oh so rosy when/if the Twins win, no?

twinsnorth49
07-25-2012, 01:11 AM
So you're saying we should be buyers?

Huh? Where do you come up with this stuff? Just saying starting pitching has been the hot button issue all season and it's a damn shame that we've had a few quality starts lately and found other ways to lose games. We remain very much sellers in my mind, if I need to categorically state that.

Brock Beauchamp
07-25-2012, 07:16 AM
Yikes. I stopped watching when it was 4-2 Twins and last checked in when it was tied 4-4.

What a terrible game.

TheLeviathan
07-25-2012, 08:20 AM
Huh? Where do you come up with this stuff? Just saying starting pitching has been the hot button issue all season and it's a damn shame that we've had a few quality starts lately and found other ways to lose games. We remain very much sellers in my mind, if I need to categorically state that.

I'm mocking the current around here that being a realist makes you a hopelessly oppressive pessimist. Instead, I guess we should all be naively optimistic about what a great team we have. Nothing with you personally, just a good setup you provided.

ChiTownTwinsFan
07-25-2012, 09:35 AM
That's an unenviable situation in a loss, but oh so rosy when/if the Twins win, no?

Of course. But that wasn't the case.

twinsnorth49
07-25-2012, 10:01 AM
I'm mocking the current around here that being a realist makes you a hopelessly oppressive pessimist. Instead, I guess we should all be naively optimistic about what a great team we have. Nothing with you personally, just a good setup you provided.

That's a stretch, I don't get the impression the majority of posters are naively believing we have a great team. Actually my post illustrates how much more this team really needs besides quality starting pitching. As LEN III pointed out in the Strib, Twins starters have gone 6+ innings in 6 of the last 7 games and the team is 2-5 during that time. Thinking that all we need to do is shore up the rotation is the proverbial finger in the dike.