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Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 03:21 PM
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Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 04:31 PM
Twins:
Span CF
Revere RF
Mauer C
Willingham LF
Morneau 1B
Plouffe 3B
Doumit DH
Dozier SS
Casilla 2B
(Diamond P)

Orioles:
Markakis RF
Hardy SS
Jones CF
Wieters C
Reynolds 1B
Pearce LF
Davis DH
Betemit 3B
Tolleson 2B
(Tillman P)

Seth Stohs
07-16-2012, 04:44 PM
JJ Hardy and his .631 OPS return to Target Field tonight... Steve Pearce spent a week or so of spring training with the Twins this year, hurt most of the time... Steve Tolleson was a 2005 draft pick of the Twins and got up to AAA in the organization before he was DFAd from the 40 man roster to make room for... Jim Thome, who is not in the Orioles lineup tonight.

JB_Iowa
07-16-2012, 04:56 PM
Just went to find the probable starters for the Orioles for this series.

Hard to believe that its possible for anyone to look as pitiful as the Twins starters but Tillman, Britton and 2 "To Be Announced" might do it.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-16-2012, 05:28 PM
Jim Thome, who is not in the Orioles lineup tonight.

Thank. God.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-16-2012, 05:31 PM
Speaking of Tillman, he is the kind of guy I wouldn't mind trying to trade for (nothing of substantial value). To bad they don't need "proven all star closer" help.

I think Tillman eventually becomes a solid pitcher, and I think a change of scenery out of the AL east would be nice for him.

Badsmerf
07-16-2012, 05:59 PM
How is this team competing for a playoff spot?

Top Gun
07-16-2012, 06:04 PM
The #1 starter is suppose to stop a losing streak, so we shall see.

snepp
07-16-2012, 06:05 PM
How is this team competing for a playoff spot?

They sold their soul for two unsustainable months, the inevitable return to earth is well under way.

3.70 ERA and .750 OPS first two months

4.70 ERA and .640 OPS last 6 weeks

Ultima Ratio
07-16-2012, 06:06 PM
How is this team competing for a playoff spot?
Timely pitching and some timely hitting works.

I just got back from vacation and see we've dropped 5 games in that time (which covered the All-star break). Nice. Well, let's right the ship tonight.

snepp
07-16-2012, 07:14 PM
Hardy has a .309 OPS over the last month, 103 PA.

snepp
07-16-2012, 07:16 PM
Bremergasm!




(the forum software wouldn't let me use all-caps, diminishing the intended effect)

IdahoPilgrim
07-16-2012, 07:16 PM
Wow! Revere with the highlight reel catch of the year!

IdahoPilgrim
07-16-2012, 07:18 PM
No knocks on the defense this inning! Way to shut the door.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:18 PM
Revere is going to make Dick's head (tee hee hee) explode by the end of the season.

Badsmerf
07-16-2012, 07:20 PM
Revere is going to make Dick's head (tee hee hee) explode by the end of the season.

I would get paid to see it.

USAFChief
07-16-2012, 07:20 PM
Too bad Revere was in right where his range doesnt play.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:21 PM
Too bad Revere was in right where his range doesnt play.

Sigh. You know balls are hit like that in left field as well, right?

striker_86
07-16-2012, 07:22 PM
Will Thome go yard once or twice or more this series?

snepp
07-16-2012, 07:24 PM
Will Thome go yard once or twice or more this series?

I'll go with once.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:24 PM
Ben is having a nice game for himself in the first inning.

snepp
07-16-2012, 07:25 PM
One of those singles to left-center would work just fine here.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:26 PM
One of those singles to left-center would work just fine here.

Joe Mauer: not a run producer, confirmed. He took two pitches.

edit: Three pitches.

edit: Tried to take off the pitcher's head with a single.

snepp
07-16-2012, 07:26 PM
One of those singles to left-center would work just fine here.

Close enough.

IdahoPilgrim
07-16-2012, 07:26 PM
One of those singles to left-center would work just fine here.

Close enough.

snepp
07-16-2012, 07:27 PM
Close enough.

Indeed.

USAFChief
07-16-2012, 07:30 PM
Sigh. You know balls are hit like that in left field as well, right?
Thats the point. Everyone up in arms about which corner revere plays is all agog about very little and what little there is is all arm related.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:32 PM
Thats the point. Everyone up in arms about which corner revere plays is all agog about very little and what little there is is all arm related.

I only cared when I thought that left field was more active. Now that it appears that nobody on planet earth knows for sure which corner outfield spot is more active, it doesn't matter so much (but I'd still like to see him in left, if only because of the arm).

Hopefully this is a non-issue soon when Revere shifts into center.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:33 PM
It'd be swell to see the Twins chase an opposing starter early.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:35 PM
Plouffe is a completely different hitter. I have no idea what his ceiling is at this point. His selection is far better than I ever expected since the breakout.

snepp
07-16-2012, 07:35 PM
It'd be swell to see the Twins chase an opposing starter early.

It'd be swell to not see them waste multiple base runners for the umpteenth time this month.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:38 PM
LOLerskates.

IdahoPilgrim
07-16-2012, 07:38 PM
Can it be possibly? Are the fickle gods of baseball actually on our side tonight?

snepp
07-16-2012, 07:39 PM
LOLerskates.

Yup.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:41 PM
Speaking of guys who look like different hitters recently... Has Dozier turned the corner? It sure looks like a possibility.

Four runs... Hopefully that will be enough for Baker, Diamond, Leius, or whatever Scott is playing for the Twins tonight.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:43 PM
Tillman has to be ready to fall over at this point.

IdahoPilgrim
07-16-2012, 07:43 PM
Speaking of guys who look like different hitters recently... Has Dozier turned the corner? It sure looks like a possibility.



Still gotta work on that defense, though - too many errors on straight-forward plays.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:44 PM
ROFLcopter.

Badsmerf
07-16-2012, 07:44 PM
Plouffe is a completely different hitter. I have no idea what his ceiling is at this point. His selection is far better than I ever expected since the breakout.

Thats a good question. His selectivity is a big reason why I wanted consistent playing time. I feel like he's been missing many more pitches lately than he did last month. Obviously he isn't going to hit 10 HR a month, but it makes me want to see more before I anoint him 3b of the future.

GCTF
07-16-2012, 07:44 PM
Touchdown!!

IdahoPilgrim
07-16-2012, 07:45 PM
Sweet! Baltimore starter goes 0.2 innings.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:45 PM
Still gotta work on that defense, though - too many errors on straight-forward plays.

I'm really not worried about his defense. His best attributes through the minors were his hands and instincts and those have been his biggest failings thus far in the majors. That leads me to believe he's either really nervous or is taking plate failures out to the field. Both will fade in time, especially if he keeps hitting.

snepp
07-16-2012, 07:45 PM
ROFLcopter.


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Badsmerf
07-16-2012, 07:47 PM
Still gotta work on that defense, though - too many errors on straight-forward plays.

Young shortstops make errors. Rarely do they come up and play flawless. People need to relax about his defense.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:47 PM
Thats a good question. His selectivity is a big reason why I wanted consistent playing time. I feel like he's been missing many more pitches lately than he did last month. Obviously he isn't going to hit 10 HR a month, but it makes me want to see more before I anoint him 3b of the future.

I probably didn't phrase my statement clearly... I mean "since the breakout" as in "since pitchers have adjusted to him". If anything, I'm more impressed by his relatively mundane (by comparison) play in the past few weeks because he's dealing with increased sliders and breaking balls because everybody is scared to throw him a fastball.

Highabove
07-16-2012, 07:51 PM
Its great to be buyers again instead of sellers!!!!

Badsmerf
07-16-2012, 07:51 PM
I probably didn't phrase my statement clearly... I mean "since the breakout" as in "since pitchers have adjusted to him". If anything, I'm more impressed by his relatively mundane (by comparison) play in the past few weeks because he's dealing with increased sliders and breaking balls because everybody is scared to throw him a fastball.

That is true, but the fastballs he is getting he's been missing. I don't think the last few weeks have been bad, but think its about time he connects with one of the few fastballs he is getting in the zone. That said, I had a feeling coming into this game Plouffe would hit one tonight.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:53 PM
That is true, but the fastballs he is getting he's been missing. I don't think the last few weeks have been bad, but think its about time he connects with one of the few fastballs he is getting in the zone. That said, I had a feeling coming into this game Plouffe would hit one tonight.

Ppbbbttt. I'm just happy that he's not K-ing every other AB. I feared that might be the case after pitchers adjusted to his insane June.

GCTF
07-16-2012, 07:53 PM
eeeew, sweaty Coomer.

GCTF
07-16-2012, 07:54 PM
Its great to be buyers again instead of sellers!!!!

Sell the farm!!

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 07:56 PM
Did the ump throw his back out on that strikeout?

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 08:02 PM
Joe can do that? To right field?

snepp
07-16-2012, 08:03 PM
Big boy muscles.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 08:06 PM
Mauer's GB% is finally going to drop below his 2011 numbers. A very good sign.

glunn
07-16-2012, 08:15 PM
Finally the Twins are having a game worth watching and I forgot to set the damn DVR.:mad:

IdahoPilgrim
07-16-2012, 08:16 PM
C'mon, Denny and Josh - talk to each other!

snepp
07-16-2012, 08:16 PM
WTF Denard?



A "double."

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 08:16 PM
WTF Denard?



A "double."

Indeed. A "double".

snepp
07-16-2012, 08:20 PM
Damn, Dozier just about got him.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 08:21 PM
Talk about **** luck.

snepp
07-16-2012, 08:21 PM
And that becomes an "earned" run due to the "double."

IdahoPilgrim
07-16-2012, 08:29 PM
And that becomes an "earned" run due to the "double."

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the earned run rules. Diamond isn't reponsible for that run, and he get's charged with it. And in the 1st inning, Tillman gets off with 1 earned run, even though he gave up 2 hits and a walk following the error.

striker_86
07-16-2012, 08:31 PM
Nice 6 run lead, its about time!

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 08:36 PM
My favorite play in baseball, the balk.

GCTF
07-16-2012, 08:37 PM
Hilarious, usually that stuff happens to the twins.

Brock Beauchamp
07-16-2012, 08:37 PM
Run, Denard, Run.

snepp
07-16-2012, 08:37 PM
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IdahoPilgrim
07-16-2012, 08:40 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Roflcopter.gif

OK, now you're just showing off:)

snepp
07-16-2012, 08:41 PM
OK, now you're just showing off:)

I'm awesome,








at using Google.

snepp
07-16-2012, 08:48 PM
Random musing while watching a blowout.....roughly how many HR/RBI would Mauer need per year for fans to get off his back about his contract?

Kobs
07-16-2012, 08:50 PM
That is a Twins mailbag level question right there.

snepp
07-16-2012, 08:51 PM
That is a Twins mailbag level question right there.

Yes it is.


Speaking of the mailbag, we should have a thread for the best mailbag gems.

IdahoPilgrim
07-16-2012, 08:51 PM
Random musing while watching a blowout.....roughly how many HR/RBI would Mauer need per year for fans to get off his back about his contract?

I would guess 20 HR/80 RBI, although I personally think he's done just fine this year - what you can reasonably expect. He's never going to earn $23M/year - we need to move past that as fans.

snepp
07-16-2012, 08:59 PM
I would guess 20 HR/80 RBI, although I personally think he's done just fine this year - what you can reasonably expect. He's never going to earn $23M/year - we need to move past that as fans.

I don't know if 80 would do it, you'd still get the "but he doesn't get teh ARH-BEE-EYES!" crowd.


His production has been excellent this year, 138 OPS+ compared to his career mark of 134.

Kobs
07-16-2012, 09:03 PM
30/100, minimum.

USAFChief
07-16-2012, 09:04 PM
When Mauer starts regularly knocking in 110 every year i'll stop feeling vaguely disappointed.

I know, i know...its not cool to think RBI mean something.

snepp
07-16-2012, 09:06 PM
Will Dick ease up on the incessant slobberfest over Diamond for a few minutes now?

snepp
07-16-2012, 09:08 PM
I know, i know...its not cool to think RBI mean something.

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BrentMpls
07-16-2012, 09:13 PM
My favorite play in baseball, the balk.

1571

Kobs
07-16-2012, 09:28 PM
I truly hate that Toyota polygraph woman.

James
07-16-2012, 09:58 PM
I just hope the Twins didn't use up all the runs for the series with this game.

Badsmerf
07-16-2012, 10:12 PM
How close was that? I am being forced to watch a stupid Cameron Diaz movie on lifetime.

Jocko87
07-16-2012, 10:13 PM
Great swing by Trevor right there, against a really good pitcher.

snepp
07-16-2012, 10:16 PM
It makes me sad there won't be any Buck Sherwalters this series.

snepp
07-16-2012, 10:21 PM
I just hope the Twins didn't use up all the runs for the series with this game.

Or for the rest of the month.

James
07-16-2012, 10:21 PM
I think they should just shoot for 20 runs. Why not, right?

James
07-16-2012, 10:23 PM
You know you're team is losing badly when the Twins pinch hit Mauer for Butera.

Badsmerf
07-16-2012, 10:25 PM
Careful counting your chickens, Capps is coming in.

James
07-16-2012, 10:26 PM
Careful counting your chickens, Capps is coming in.

This is only to build trade value. Not even Capps can blow this lead.

James
07-16-2012, 10:31 PM
This is only to build trade value. Not even Capps can blow this lead.

Mayhaps, I spoke too soon.

glunn
07-16-2012, 10:40 PM
Careful counting your chickens, Capps is coming in.

Luckily, Capps laid only two eggs.