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Brock Beauchamp
07-08-2012, 11:38 AM
Post the lineups!

Highabove
07-08-2012, 05:52 PM
From LaVelle

Twins (36-48)
1. Denard Span, CF
2. Ben Revere, RF
3. Joe Mauer, DH
4. Josh Willingham, LF
5. Justin Morneau, 1B
6. Ryan Doumit, C
7. Trevor Plouffe, 3B
8. Brian Dozier, SS
9. Jamey Carroll, 2B
Pitching: Cole De Vries, (2-1, 3.91)


Rangers (51-34)
1. Ian Kinsler, 2B
2. Elvis Andrus, SS
3. Josh Hamilton, DH
4. Adrian Beltre, 3B
5. Nelson Cruz, RF
6. Michael Young, 1B
7. David Murphy, LF
8. Mike Napoli, C
9. Craig Gentry, CF
Pitching: Roy Oswalt, (2-1, 7.79)

Jocko87
07-08-2012, 06:12 PM
Again, screw the blackout rules. It's not like having the Yankee's/Red Sox as the only game on is really going to make anybody watch it that wasn't already going to. I certainly won't.

USAFChief
07-08-2012, 06:57 PM
Two games in a row I can't watch. On a weekend. Despite paying for extra innings.

I am drafting a letter to MLB. And another to my senator. I'm serious. If this p!sses you off, I suggest you do the same.

TheLeviathan
07-08-2012, 07:01 PM
It's not on Fox Sports North for you?

Jocko87
07-08-2012, 07:06 PM
Two games in a row I can't watch. On a weekend. Despite paying for extra innings.

I am drafting a letter to MLB. And another to my senator. I'm serious. If this p!sses you off, I suggest you do the same.

I concur, although I wouldn't bother with a Senator-my letter to him will have baseball way on the bottom of the list. I was poking around looking for someone to complain to on MLB.com, the only way to fix it is to have a high compliant level. I'm not sure why paying for extra innings doesn't bypass the blackout rules.

In general if you are interested check http://www.the506.com/mlbmaps/ for the Saturday blackout stuff. Some of the things I see on this map are just plain dumb.

Jocko87
07-08-2012, 07:07 PM
It's not on Fox Sports North for you?

Not in Tucson or Wichita.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 07:12 PM
Wow! I didn't even know there was a storm there. Sudden flash of lightning, out of nowhere, and the players scattered like they'd heard a gunshot. That was right near the park!

kydoty
07-08-2012, 07:12 PM
We're being bombed!!!!!

Jocko87
07-08-2012, 07:15 PM
That sounded great on the radio, pffft.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 07:15 PM
Boy, if this delay lasts any time, it could screw up a heck-of-a-good start from DeVries - 3 innings, 1 hit, 1 walk, 3K, and excellent control.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 07:20 PM
Tim Laudner just made what I thought was an insightful comment in the studio. DeVries is using all his pitches effectively, mixing them up well. He made the point that Deduno didn't do that yesterday, relying too much on the breaking ball, and Texas figured it out.

I remember earlier this season DeVries had the same problem - too many breaking balls.
Perhaps DeVries has learned how to pitch smarter in order to have success at the major league level. If so, he might stick around a while.

glunn
07-08-2012, 07:28 PM
Two games in a row I can't watch. On a weekend. Despite paying for extra innings.

I am drafting a letter to MLB. And another to my senator. I'm serious. If this p!sses you off, I suggest you do the same.

I am experiencing the same problem here in California, your neighbor to the west. I really wanted to see Deduno yesterday and DeVries today. And you and I paid a lot for extra innings and we also get the commercials. Sometimes I wish that we had a Menards here, because the commercials make me want to go there.

glunn
07-08-2012, 07:29 PM
Not in Tucson or Wichita.

Or Beverly Hills.

Jocko87
07-08-2012, 07:34 PM
I am experiencing the same problem here in California, your neighbor to the west. I really wanted to see Deduno yesterday and DeVries today. And you and I paid a lot for extra innings and we also get the commercials. Sometimes I wish that we had a Menards here, because the commercials make me want to go there.

We just got Menards here last year, they have become my go-to even though HomeDopet is within walking distance. You would like it.

benchwarmerjim
07-08-2012, 07:41 PM
Two games in a row I can't watch. On a weekend. Despite paying for extra innings.

I am drafting a letter to MLB. And another to my senator. I'm serious. If this p!sses you off, I suggest you do the same.

it probably wouldnt hurt to mail that same letter to someone in the Twins Front Office. Maybe if enough support building among the ballclubs, Selig will have to give in and change the blackout rules.

glunn
07-08-2012, 07:48 PM
We just got Menards here last year, they have become my go-to even though HomeDopet is within walking distance. You would like it.

Ar the rate that Menards is moving west, it won't be here until I am ready to build a wheelchair ramp.

glunn
07-08-2012, 07:51 PM
I hate to admit this, but I am so baseball deprived that I have been watching the Yankees-Red Sox game. Fortunately, I was rewarded by watching Jeter drop the most routine pop fly I have ever seen. If Dozier had dropped that one, all of the pitchforks at Menards across Minnesota would be bought tomorrow.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 08:21 PM
Well, not only is DeVries back out there, but he's picking up right where he left off - 5 solid innings.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 08:29 PM
At last! There's the first run - RBI for Morneau.

glunn
07-08-2012, 08:29 PM
This would be a good time for Justin to paste one.

Ted666
07-08-2012, 08:32 PM
Well, not only is DeVries back out there, but he's picking up right where he left off - 5 solid innings.


Yep. And they scored for him.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 08:54 PM
Well, I wonder how much slack they'll give DeVries in the 7th. With the all-star break, there's no worries about using up the bullpen. A close 1-0 game may cause them to move quickly if trouble develops.

Chance
07-08-2012, 08:55 PM
Saw on MLB.com the twins pitching rotation out of the all-star break. Liriano Duensing then either Devries or Deduno then they are debating what to do with Diamond (since they want to back off his innings). How about liriano Duensing Devries Deduno Walters Liriano then Diamond. Then Duensing can go back to the pen?

mikeee
07-08-2012, 08:57 PM
He's got a shutout going and only 71 pitches.. They better let him pitch!

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:03 PM
He's got a shutout going and only 71 pitches.. They better let him pitch!

I agree, but I also think there would be a big emotional boost in the clubhouse to win this game, so I don't think they'll gamble too much. You want to go into the all-star break on a high, and what could be better than winning a series against the best team in the AL, in their park, and having a 4-3 road trip.

Chance
07-08-2012, 09:03 PM
No reason to pull him in the 8th either. He isn't getting lucky. He's pitching real well and is facing the bottom half of the lineup. Hopefully we get a run or 2 for him here

glunn
07-08-2012, 09:16 PM
No reason to pull him in the 8th either. He isn't getting lucky. He's pitching real well and is facing the bottom half of the lineup. Hopefully we get a run or 2 for him here

I agree. Too bad Gardenhire disagrees.

mikeee
07-08-2012, 09:16 PM
Pulled for Casey Fien. hrm.

glunn
07-08-2012, 09:19 PM
Pulled for Casey Fien. hrm.

Great idea to bring in Fein with a one run lead -- sink or swim. Who cares if the Twins win.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:20 PM
If he had shone signs of being tired the last inning, then absolutely I would pull him. But in this case, I'm surprised he didn't go back out.

ashburyjohn
07-08-2012, 09:21 PM
I agree, but I also think there would be a big emotional boost in the clubhouse to win this game, so I don't think they'll gamble too much. You want to go into the all-star break on a high, and what could be better than winning a series against the best team in the AL, in their park, and having a 4-3 road trip.

Having Fien pitch the 8th doesn't seem to go with that theory.

glunn
07-08-2012, 09:23 PM
If he had shone signs of being tired the last inning, then absolutely I would pull him. But in this case, I'm surprised he didn't go back out.

He threw only 84 pitches through the 7th. I am amazed that he did not go back out for at least a batter ir two. Maybe he told the coaches that he is tired/injured.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:24 PM
Having Fien pitch the 8th doesn't seem to go with that theory.

I would have sent DeVries out, with the understanding that the moment a runner got in scoring position, he was done.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:25 PM
Way to go, Casey. Through 'em a little chin music. Get the Texas bench all fired up.

glunn
07-08-2012, 09:27 PM
Way to go, Casey. Through 'em a little chin music. Get the Texas bench all fired up.

That was his debut. Hopefully they understand that.

glunn
07-08-2012, 09:32 PM
With all due respect for Joe Nathan, I hope that the Twins blow him off the mound.

mikeee
07-08-2012, 09:33 PM
So if the error is on the pitcher, is it an earned run?

GCTF
07-08-2012, 09:33 PM
Nice throw, Joe.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:34 PM
Wow, Nathan choking. A base hit now blows this open.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:34 PM
So if the error is on the pitcher, is it an earned run?

Yes.

glunn
07-08-2012, 09:38 PM
So if the error is on the pitcher, is it an earned run?

According to the CBS site, it is an earned run.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:38 PM
Man, nothing is going out in right. All things considered, though, I'm OK with that today.

mikeee
07-08-2012, 09:39 PM
Nathan's ERA is up half a point after that stint!

ashburyjohn
07-08-2012, 09:39 PM
I would have sent DeVries out, with the understanding that the moment a runner got in scoring position, he was done.

Either way, the choice of Fien to relieve DeVries seems more about getting the guy into a game, any game, moreso than trying to enter the All-Star Break on a winning note.

ashburyjohn
07-08-2012, 09:41 PM
Nathan's ERA is up half a point after that stint!

Knocked him out. Sweet.

glunn
07-08-2012, 09:41 PM
Nathan going out -- is he injured?

Top Gun
07-08-2012, 09:43 PM
Why do Twins need SP?

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:43 PM
Well, here comes Perkins. Personally, I would have preferred Burton. He's been more reliable this year - Perkins has had a tendency this year to make things exciting, kinda like Capps.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:44 PM
Nathan going out -- is he injured?

Nope. Tactical decision by Washington.

Chance
07-08-2012, 09:47 PM
Well, here comes Perkins. Personally, I would have preferred Burton. He's been more reliable this year - Perkins has had a tendency this year to make things exciting, kinda like Capps.

Well let's not talk crazy, he isn't Capps like, in anyway.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:47 PM
Oh, I love this "play the rookie so he can get experience" thing.

Dilligaf69
07-08-2012, 09:52 PM
An error and a wild pitch....

mikeee
07-08-2012, 09:53 PM
Good thing they scored those extra runs....

GCTF
07-08-2012, 09:53 PM
Both runs should be unearned, it doesn't matter if the pitcher is the one who committed the error.

Dozier should have been the first out, Carroll struck out for out number 2 and Span flew out. No runs should have scored.

ESPN has them both as unearned FWIW

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:54 PM
Well let's not talk crazy, he isn't Capps like, in anyway.

You were saying?

mikeee
07-08-2012, 09:54 PM
Dead arm Perkins...

glunn
07-08-2012, 09:54 PM
Perkins is making this way too close.

Alex
07-08-2012, 09:55 PM
Inning would be over if it weren't for Dozier.

GCTF
07-08-2012, 09:56 PM
Jeez.

Dilligaf69
07-08-2012, 09:57 PM
Nice Glen....NICE!:mad:

Highabove
07-08-2012, 09:57 PM
up 0-2 on both Batters

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:57 PM
Inning would be over if it weren't for Dozier.

That's doesn't excuse Perkins. Yes, those last two runs are "unearned," but Perkins can't blame anybody for them but himself.

USAFChief
07-08-2012, 09:57 PM
Blame Dozier...but that was an 0-2 pitch from Perkins that Young just doubled on to tie the game. Completely unacceptable.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 09:58 PM
Both runs should be unearned, it doesn't matter if the pitcher is the one who committed the error.

Dozier should have been the first out, Carroll struck out for out number 2 and Span flew out. No runs should have scored.

ESPN has them both as unearned FWIW

I just checked the rulebook. You are correct. My bad.

Highabove
07-08-2012, 09:58 PM
add another 0-2 hit

glunn
07-08-2012, 09:58 PM
Unbelievable. Texas took out Nathan with good reason, then the Twins leave Perkins in.

glunn
07-08-2012, 10:00 PM
Gardenhire seems determined to lose the game in the 9th then go home.

Dilligaf69
07-08-2012, 10:00 PM
Inning would be over if it weren't for Dozier.


true but you gotta bounce back and the wild pitch didn't help...but Perk has struggled most of the yr as the closer although his numbers dont show it he's battled

Alex
07-08-2012, 10:01 PM
That's doesn't excuse Perkins. Yes, those last two runs are "unearned," but Perkins can't blame anybody for them but himself.


Two solid hits, and two hits off pretty good pitches. That happens, but he shouldn't have had to get 4 outs, and the fact that Dozier's error was a two base error wasn't insignificant either.

mikeee
07-08-2012, 10:02 PM
We should be celebrating a De Vries shutout about now....

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 10:02 PM
The real loser here is Cole DeVries. He deserved a W tonight, and the Twins couldn't hold it.

glunn
07-08-2012, 10:04 PM
The real loser here is Cole DeVries. He deserved a W tonight, and the Twins couldn't hold it.

So true. Hopefully he gets a lot of credit tonight in the locker room.

Highabove
07-08-2012, 10:05 PM
Do you miss me???? Matt Capps


https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTw9WY_-04ohR6-rfIU1BYnU8MENGgk6Iz4B5HC4wstF4MZQDj4

glunn
07-08-2012, 10:09 PM
Do you miss me???? Matt Capps

Tonight, yes.

ashburyjohn
07-08-2012, 10:10 PM
Do you miss me???? Matt Capps

I have been in favor of trading Capps, because he's a tradeable commodity, not because I want Perkins closing.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 10:19 PM
Do you miss me???? Matt Capps


Do you miss me???? Joe Nathan.

glunn
07-08-2012, 10:21 PM
It seems to me that Perkins has been asked to pitch a lot of inning lately. And I don't understand why Gardenhire left him in the game so long, especially with the All-Star break starting tomorrow.

glunn
07-08-2012, 10:22 PM
Do you miss me???? Joe Nathan.

Yes, often, but you got what you wanted.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 10:27 PM
It seems to me that Perkins has been asked to pitch a lot of inning lately. And I don't understand why Gardenhire left him in the game so long, especially with the All-Star break starting tomorrow.

Gardy's always been like that - he lets the "closer" get the job done or blow it completely - no half-way measures. In all fairness, most managers do the same thing. Closers are supposed to be your most reliable people in those situations - they're supposed to be able to pitch their way out of trouble.

Perk did pitch 4 days in a row, but he had 2 days off after that, and this was only his 2nd game in 5 days. He should have been rested.

Top Gun
07-08-2012, 10:29 PM
Too many games for Perkins, even the big closers get hit. Dozier should be sent down for a break take a look at someone else.

glunn
07-08-2012, 10:31 PM
Gardy's always been like that - he lets the "closer" get the job done or blow it completely - no half-way measures. In all fairness, most managers do the same thing. Closers are supposed to be your most reliable people in those situations - they're supposed to be able to pitch their way out of trouble.

Perk did pitch 4 days in a row, but he had 2 days off after that, and this was only his 2nd game in 5 days. He should have been rested.

Washington pulled Nathan when he looked vulnerable, but Gardy left Perkins in to give up the tie. I like the Washington approach better, assuming that the goal is to go into the All-Star break with a win.

mikeee
07-08-2012, 10:34 PM
They should have given perkins a rest and let devries pitch!!!!!!!

Top Gun
07-08-2012, 10:34 PM
Gardy should know D wins games you can give 4 outs.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 10:35 PM
Washington pulled Nathan when he looked vulnerable, but Gardy left Perkins in to give up the tie. I like the Washington approach better, assuming that the goal is to go into the All-Star break with a win.

Nathan wasn't in a save situation. That being said, given the results, I can't argue.:) If the end up losing this, they're going to spend the next 4 days kicking themselves.

USAFChief
07-08-2012, 10:37 PM
Washington pulled Nathan when he looked vulnerable, but Gardy left Perkins in to give up the tie. I like the Washington approach better, assuming that the goal is to go into the All-Star break with a win.

Just who exactly would you prefer?

The blame belongs squarely on Dozier and Perkins. Dozier for the boot, Perkins for giving up the extra runs, including 2 hits on 0-2 pitches.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 10:37 PM
Just went back and checked my box scores. Burton pitched the last two nights; he is probably unavailable.

glunn
07-08-2012, 10:38 PM
Nathan wasn't in a save situation. That being said, given the results, I can't argue.:) If the end up losing this, they're going to spend the next 4 days kicking themselves.

It sure would be nice to win this particular game.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 10:41 PM
I think we've found the problem - they're wearing the wrong caps! Didn't they change back over to the "M" caps earlier this year?

mikeee
07-08-2012, 10:43 PM
Just went back and checked my box scores. Burton pitched the last two nights; he is probably unavailable.

yeah, the radio guys said he was unavailable.

mikeee
07-08-2012, 10:47 PM
2 outs... LOL

notoriousgod71
07-08-2012, 10:47 PM
Pulled for Casey Fien. hrm.

Even though he pitched a shutout inning this move is inexcusable. If you're going to take DeVries out it should have been for Burton or Perkins. This was like bringing Bass into one run game after one run game.

glunn
07-08-2012, 10:48 PM
And bases loaded, and Gardenhire is going to let Swarzak sweat it out.

IdahoPilgrim
07-08-2012, 10:51 PM
Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but I have to work tomorrow. Hasta. Maybe the Twins will win in my dreams.

glunn
07-08-2012, 10:55 PM
Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but I have to work tomorrow. Hasta. Maybe the Twins will win in my dreams.

It's only 9:00 here. Have a goodnight sb.

glunn
07-08-2012, 11:02 PM
Pull Swarzak now -- too many pitches.

kydoty
07-08-2012, 11:10 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22970091&topic_id=9780550&c_id=mlb

Jerry White's reaction at 1:15 is just great.

glunn
07-08-2012, 11:18 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22970091&topic_id=9780550&c_id=mlb

Jerry White's reaction at 1:15 is just great.

Good one -- thanks for sharing this.

CDog
07-08-2012, 11:19 PM
Blame Dozier...but that was an 0-2 pitch from Perkins that Young just doubled on to tie the game. Completely unacceptable.

Not really a correction since I'm sure it was just a "typo," but it was a single. But more so, I wanted to use that comment to segue to something about the larger point...

In between some of the ridiculous stuff Mitch Williams said last night (there's a whole thread on that), was something that caught my interest. He talked about there being more 0-2 hits (and I think he added that many were extra-base/home runs) than he could ever remember and thought it was at least partially due to the pitch count. In other words, pitchers trying to get through batters on fewer pitches were more likely to "give in" and throw something hittable 0-2 to avoid throwing extra pitches. Part of why I found it interesting is because it's not really something that can be checked (at least not the motivation part), so in that sense it was at least thought provoking.

Basically I'm distracting myself from watching the game as intently as I had been because it's stressing me out, so I figured I'd do some typing. Feel free to ignore or discuss.

notoriousgod71
07-08-2012, 11:25 PM
That about sums up our first half of the season.

Top Gun
07-08-2012, 11:28 PM
Twins lose, infield practice in the morning!

glunn
07-08-2012, 11:35 PM
Twins should have won this. I blame Gardenhire for leaving Perkins in for too long.

greengoblinrulz
07-08-2012, 11:38 PM
Its not because of this...but when you arent trying to win, you dont win.
What do I mean. Its more important to Gardy to rest Burton than pitch him in the 8th. This happenned in DET with the lead & Burnett lost the game. Happenned tonight & tho Fien pitched a great 8th, its still the mindset.
2 games that were lost on this trip in games gardy didnt do everything he could to win it. Team got what they deserve

snepp
07-08-2012, 11:38 PM
Some 0-2 count stuff, league as a whole.



Year BA
OBP
SLG
OPS




2012 .148
.155
.221
.376




2011 .152
.160
.217
.377




2010 .156
.165
.220
.385




2009 .156
.164
.221
.385




2008 .160
.170
.230
.401




2007 .166
.177
.235
.412




2006 .168
.178
.244
.422




2005 .164
.173
.237
.409




2004 .165
.175
.246
.421




2003 .159
.170
.230
.400




2002 .160
.170
.233
.402




2001 .159
.171
.236
.407




2000 .161
.171
.237
.408




1990 .155
.162
.213
.375

greengoblinrulz
07-08-2012, 11:42 PM
Twins should have won this. I blame Gardenhire for leaving Perkins in for too long.
Who do you put in.....Gardy already decided, even with the 4 day break, that the game wasnt important enough to risk pitching Jaret Burton. Gardy lost this game before it started with that attitude.

CDog
07-08-2012, 11:42 PM
Some 0-2 count stuff, league as a whole.











Interesting. That ON 0-2 or AFTER 0-2? (I'm lazy and semi-busy or I'd just look it up.)

snepp
07-08-2012, 11:44 PM
Those numbers were strictly 'on' 0-2.

greengoblinrulz
07-08-2012, 11:45 PM
Some 0-2 count stuff, league as a whole.



Year BA

OBP

SLG

OPS





2012 .148

.155

.221

.376





2011 .152

.160

.217

.377





2010 .156

.165

.220

.385





2009 .156

.164

.221

.385





2008 .160

.170

.230

.401





2007 .166

.177

.235

.412





2006 .168

.178

.244

.422





2005 .164

.173

.237

.409





2004 .165

.175

.246

.421





2003 .159

.170

.230

.400





2002 .160

.170

.233

.402





2001 .159

.171

.236

.407





2000 .161

.171

.237

.408





1990 .155

.162

.213

.375





If you watched SAT's game, you'ld know Mitch Williams believes you should always waste a pitch on an 0-2 count.
Again, when it can be disputed with numbers....makes ya look like an idiot.

CDog
07-08-2012, 11:51 PM
Those numbers were strictly 'on' 0-2.

After I asked, I sorta figured based on just how bad they were. So much for figuring out the motives since the crime appears not to have happened!

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-09-2012, 12:03 AM
Disappointing loss, but at least De Vries looked good.

The defense let em down tonight.

greengoblinrulz
07-09-2012, 12:21 AM
Personally I dont blame Dozier one bit for the loss.
Twins led 3-1 with 1 out & nobody on with their current/future closer out there. I get the whole 4 outs thing, but a pitcher cannot give up unearned runs without takin blame either (unless the error directly affected the run). Pitchers need to man up too.

USAFChief
07-09-2012, 12:25 AM
I don't get blaming Gardenhire for this loss. At all. He had the right pitcher in the game, at the right time. The pitcher didn't get the job done. That ain't on Gardy.

Maybe I'm old school, but in my day, a pitcher used to get fined for giving up hard contact on 0-2, much less a hit.

SpiritofVodkaDave
07-09-2012, 01:04 AM
I don't get blaming Gardenhire for this loss. At all. He had the right pitcher in the game, at the right time. The pitcher didn't get the job done. That ain't on Gardy.

Maybe I'm old school, but in my day, a pitcher used to get fined for giving up hard contact on 0-2, much less a hit.

Yup, best reliver was on the mound at the time. At that point its "his" game. Ya win some ya lose some.

This was a rough first half no doubt, but there have been some positives to take away: Plouffe, Mauer, Willingham, Doumit, Span, Revere have all been producing very well, Morneau is at least healthy and Dozier well, shows flashes here and there. The bullpen has been very good all season and the rotation, while a mess has produced some bright spots at points Diamond, Liriano, Walters are 3 guys if chosen to could be a decent set up to a 2013 rotation (3,4,5) still need a 1,2 but its getting better.

Also since May 27th the Twins have had a 21-16 record, 17-12 since Jun 2nd so there is some hope they can finish with 75 or so wins, which is far from great but something to build on heading into 2013.

snepp
07-09-2012, 02:04 AM
Maybe I'm old

Maybe?






















































































:)

a-wan
07-09-2012, 05:28 AM
Maybe?
:)

Yeah, like Sid Hartman only being newly minted into AARP...

Anyone else sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for Capps to come back??

Brock Beauchamp
07-09-2012, 08:01 AM
Ugh. I can't believe they lost that game. I checked in on my phone in the ninth, saw, they had a lead, and went to sleep.

Probably for the best.

DPJ
07-09-2012, 08:42 AM
I'm shocked Gardy hasn't lost his mind over Dozier's glove and lack of hitting.

Maybe he's just doesn't care anymore, but Bartlett would be sent back to A-ball if he played as ****ty as Doz has.

USAFChief
07-09-2012, 11:39 AM
Maybe?

:)

And to think I worried about you when you went missing.

While I think of it, get off my lawn.

ashburyjohn
07-09-2012, 12:09 PM
Twins led 3-1 with 1 out & nobody on with their current/future closer out there.

This.

ashburyjohn
07-09-2012, 12:10 PM
While I think of it, get off my lawn.

We're grilling burgers tonight. Can I have one of the onions from your belt?

snepp
07-09-2012, 12:39 PM
And to think I worried about you when you went missing.

I'm touched.




While I think of it, get off my lawn.

I take it back.

notoriousgod71
07-09-2012, 05:42 PM
Yup, best reliver was on the mound at the time. At that point its "his" game. Ya win some ya lose some.

This was a rough first half no doubt, but there have been some positives to take away: Plouffe, Mauer, Willingham, Doumit, Span, Revere have all been producing very well, Morneau is at least healthy and Dozier well, shows flashes here and there. The bullpen has been very good all season and the rotation, while a mess has produced some bright spots at points Diamond, Liriano, Walters are 3 guys if chosen to could be a decent set up to a 2013 rotation (3,4,5) still need a 1,2 but its getting better.

Also since May 27th the Twins have had a 21-16 record, 17-12 since Jun 2nd so there is some hope they can finish with 75 or so wins, which is far from great but something to build on heading into 2013.

Burton has been our best relief pitcher this season. Perkins WHIP is currently right where it was as a starter. It's above his career WHIP. He still can not be trusted.

glunn
07-10-2012, 12:13 AM
Someone please archive this. We don't need to be reminded of this loss.