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Brock Beauchamp
07-06-2012, 02:56 PM
No fancy game articles for this series. I'm away from a computer for the weekend. If somebody could post the lineups for me, that'd be peachy.

Jeremy Nygaard
07-06-2012, 03:43 PM
Revere CF, Mastroianni RF, Mauer DH, Willingham LF, Morneau 1B, Plouffe 3B, Dozier SS, Butera C, Casilla 2B & Liriano

glunn
07-06-2012, 05:37 PM
The Rangers have slotted in Martin Perez to pitch instead of Yu Darvish. Perez had a good last start, but his ERA is 9.00. Let's hope that the Twins can score early and often.

jokin
07-06-2012, 06:54 PM
Revere CF, Mastroianni RF, Mauer DH, Willingham LF, Morneau 1B, Plouffe 3B, Dozier SS, Butera C, Casilla 2B & Liriano

No Span again. Is he gone during the AS break?

snepp
07-06-2012, 07:21 PM
Shocking, Morneau strikes out.

glunn
07-06-2012, 07:21 PM
Good scouting by the Rangers -- walk Willingham to get to Morneau. Justin needs some days off -- he seems to have virtually zero chances of hitting a southpaw.

glunn
07-06-2012, 07:23 PM
CBS shows that Mauer is already out of the game. Is he injured?

snepp
07-06-2012, 07:33 PM
Butera's gunna jack one.



Or no.

minn55441
07-06-2012, 07:46 PM
Why can't Frankie pitch 9 innings like this every game.

minn55441
07-06-2012, 07:49 PM
The ranger hitters look overmatched by frankie. (one of the best if not the best hitting teams in the AL and they don't look like they have a chance against him). I don't want to jinx him, but then it just changes in an instant.

snepp
07-06-2012, 07:56 PM
Looks like that probably could/should have been the 3rd out, pretty passive fielding.

GCTF
07-06-2012, 07:57 PM
"snickers"

snepp
07-06-2012, 07:57 PM
LOL, go Napoli.

snepp
07-06-2012, 07:58 PM
"snickers"

*snickers*

minn55441
07-06-2012, 08:02 PM
Nice to Morneau get a hit against a lefty. it wasn't a rocket, but a hit is a hit. He worked hard that at bat and got an RBI out of it.

snepp
07-06-2012, 08:02 PM
Another one that Cruz should have caught.


And damn, Plouffsie just missed a home run.

glunn
07-06-2012, 08:03 PM
I am glad that Morneau got a hit and an RBI. Maybe he is getting it together.

notoriousgod71
07-06-2012, 08:04 PM
Another one that Cruz should have caught.


And damn, Plouffsie just missed a home run.

I know Cruz has had some hamstring issues in the past but he was one of the laziest outfielders I've ever seen. And it's not just tonight or the World Series non-play either. He reminds me of Juan Rivera.

glunn
07-06-2012, 08:15 PM
And damn, Plouffsie just missed a home run.

Plouffsie???

snepp
07-06-2012, 08:15 PM
Drooooooooooooooo!!!

snepp
07-06-2012, 08:16 PM
Plouffsie???

It's a Gardyism.

GCTF
07-06-2012, 08:19 PM
Drooooooooooooooo!!!

Missed that. I'll just assume everyone on the field fell down at the same time.

minn55441
07-06-2012, 08:20 PM
hate to see bennie get HBP. I don't know if I could ever get over being hit in the face by a pitch, even if it was more than a year ago.

minn55441
07-06-2012, 08:23 PM
Cruz didn't look lazy on that play in the corner.

notoriousgod71
07-06-2012, 08:24 PM
I know Cruz has had some hamstring issues in the past but he was one of the laziest outfielders I've ever seen. And it's not just tonight or the World Series non-play either. He reminds me of Juan Rivera.

Naturally, he then proceeds to make an impressive play to end the inning.

minn55441
07-06-2012, 08:30 PM
Drew needs to show us why he is Frankie's catcher and calm him down.Get him through the fourth.

minn55441
07-06-2012, 08:36 PM
What awful fielding by the Rangers tonight. first napoli and now hamilton.

glunn
07-06-2012, 08:48 PM
What awful fielding by the Rangers tonight. first napoli and now hamilton.

And now it appears that Hamilton may have re-injured his back.

minn55441
07-06-2012, 08:49 PM
I am willing to have Drew's bat in the lineup every 5 games as long as he can get Frankie through 7 or 8 innings every game. Do you think that Drew has a calming affect on Frankie? Would Joe or Ryan have had as much success? It's obvious to everyone that it is a mental thing when things go wrong for him (guys on base). If all it takes is to look in and see Drew's face, that is a small price to pay in order to get a quality start out of Liriano.

glunn
07-06-2012, 08:53 PM
I am willing to have Drew's bat in the lineup every 5 games as long as he can get Frankie through 7 or 8 innings every game. Do you think that Drew has a calming affect on Frankie? Would Joe or Ryan have had as much success? It's obvious to everyone that it is a mental thing when things go wrong for him (guys on base). If all it takes is to look in and see Drew's face, that is a small price to pay in order to get a quality start out of Liriano.

I agree 100%, and would add that Butera seems to be pretty good at throwing out base stealers. He is also batting .246, which is not terrible for a backup catcher.

IdahoPilgrim
07-06-2012, 09:06 PM
Watching Frankie pitch out of trouble is like one of those rides at the amusement park that carry a warning for those who have heart conditions!

IdahoPilgrim
07-06-2012, 09:07 PM
Just got in from a late dinner - did I miss anything of note?

minn55441
07-06-2012, 09:08 PM
I know that Liriano is throwing the pitches, but I keep thinking that Drew is an equal partner in getting him out of trouble. That DP sure came at a great time.

mikeee
07-06-2012, 09:08 PM
I'll take it getting out of there with one run!

mikeee
07-06-2012, 09:11 PM
I guess Morneau liked the right hander!

minn55441
07-06-2012, 09:14 PM
5 runs on 7 hits tonight, why couldn't we get that kind of ratio yesterday. Diamond deserved that win.

IdahoPilgrim
07-06-2012, 09:23 PM
OK, he's losing it. Pull him before it's too late.

glunn
07-06-2012, 09:31 PM
Who still wants to trade Liriano?

IdahoPilgrim
07-06-2012, 09:31 PM
Good news from the farm - Walters pitched 5 scoreless innings for Rochester. Looks like he's ready to return.

glunn
07-06-2012, 09:33 PM
Good news from the farm - Walters pitched 5 scoreless innings for Rochester. Looks like he's ready to return.

Thanks for that good news. Hopefully the "Wall" can pick up where he left off.

ashburyjohn
07-06-2012, 09:34 PM
Who still wants to trade Liriano?

Me.

IdahoPilgrim
07-06-2012, 09:36 PM
Who still wants to trade Liriano?

I do. I just saw the last two innings, but from what I saw he was struggling with his control again. He got out of it, but it just makes me so nervous. I truly want to believe he's turned the corner and "bad Frankie" is gone for good, but it's just requiring too much of a leap of faith at this point. This is one time, however, when I would be glad to be proved wrong.

glunn
07-06-2012, 09:36 PM
Now that Liriano is done for the day, why not let Doumit bat for Butera?

minn55441
07-06-2012, 09:39 PM
I've never been a trade Liriano guy. First I don't think we would get much value in a trade, especially with how erratic he has been. Secondly, I keep hoping that we find the secret to his success. Maybe we found it in his own personal catcher. I wouldn't bet the farm on it, but we can always dream. With Diamond, we may have to only find 3 starters for 2013.

glunn
07-06-2012, 09:41 PM
I do. I just saw the last two innings, but from what I saw he was struggling with his control again. He got out of it, but it just makes me so nervious. I truly want to believe he's turned the corner and "bad Frankie" is gone for good, but it's just requiring too much of a leap of faith at this point. This is one time, however, when I would be glad to be proved wrong.

I feel the same way as you do, EXCEPT I see Liriano as the best gamble available for the Twins having an "ace" anytime soon. If the Twins were ever to make it to the postseason, an ace could help take them past the first round.

IdahoPilgrim
07-06-2012, 09:47 PM
By my calculation, the Twins have now lowered the ERA of their starters to 5.77 - nice to see that dropping on a pretty steady basis.

glunn
07-06-2012, 09:51 PM
By my calculation, the Twins have now lowered the ERA of their starters to 5.77 - nice to see that dropping on a pretty steady basis.

I wonder where they rank in the AL on this stat.

minn55441
07-06-2012, 09:57 PM
I wonder where they rank in the AL on this stat.

Still last and then still some.

glunn
07-06-2012, 10:04 PM
Still last and then still some.

I am hoping that Deduno will be a part of fixing that.

IdahoPilgrim
07-06-2012, 10:04 PM
I wonder where they rank in the AL on this stat.

Kansas City was next to last and had a starters ERA of 5.00 going into today.

glunn
07-06-2012, 10:06 PM
Kansas City was next to last and had a starters ERA of 5.00 going into today.

Thanks. It sounds like it may take a while to close that gap.

asmus_ndsu
07-06-2012, 10:07 PM
By my calculation, the Twins have now lowered the ERA of their starters to 5.77 - nice to see that dropping on a pretty steady basis.

Whats better is that Our starters are more frequently getting through 6 innings. But i guess that goes hand in hand if.

IdahoPilgrim
07-06-2012, 10:10 PM
Thanks. It sounds like it may take a while to close that gap.

Yes, but that's because of the abysmal start. My guess is, throw out that first month and a half, and the rotation is inline with some of the other teams.

ashburyjohn
07-06-2012, 10:15 PM
My guess is, throw out that first month and a half, and the rotation is inline with some of the other teams.

Unless you throw out those other teams' worst month and a half too.

IdahoPilgrim
07-06-2012, 10:20 PM
Unless you throw out those other teams' worst month and a half too.

Even then I'm guessing the gap would be less than it is now - that's how bad that start was.:)

ashburyjohn
07-07-2012, 10:51 AM
Even then I'm guessing the gap would be less than it is now - that's how bad that start was.:)

Take out the respective worst 6-week stretches and there's still a gap? So then, worst stretch against worst stretch, or remainder against remainder, and they still lag, either portion.

Not good, in other words.