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Musk21
07-05-2012, 04:49 PM
per Rhett Bollinger....Deduno to start Saturday vs TEX.

Rosterman
07-05-2012, 05:12 PM
With the extra days off for the All-Star break, hopefully the Twins will see fit to send Dozier, Deduno, DeVries, Fein, Waldrop, Robertson and anyone else back down to Rochester to get playing time, elevating a few folks back up here for a week like Valencia Guerra and Toshi, before sending them back down again. Let's really play the musical chair game and see folks before the trading begins.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 05:22 PM
The pitchers and Dozier could all use time off. I'm glad to see Deduno get a shot. It would be wonderful if he could develop into an effective option (like Diamond). Give everybody that shows something a chance!

Bark's Lounge
07-05-2012, 05:30 PM
They send Parmelee down. He starts swinging a hot bat. They recall him. He sits on the bench. I look forward to seeing history repeat itself.

Seth Stohs
07-05-2012, 05:35 PM
Excited to see Deduno throw. He's pitched very well for the Red Wings since his return from injury! Might as well give him a shot... (but good luck against the Rangers! Yikes!) Parmelee needed to play. Like Bark's said above, I hope we don't see this trend again!

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 05:41 PM
They send Parmelee down. He starts swinging a hot bat. They recall him. He sits on the bench. I look forward to seeing history repeat itself.Since May 26, Parm has hit more homers than Morneau. 2-1.

Morneau continues to totally frustrate me. He hasn't hit lefties at all, and except for a couple of stretches, hasn't been a productive RBI guy.

J-Dog Dungan
07-05-2012, 05:49 PM
While Morneau hasn't been showing any problems with concussion symptoms, the fact that he has been out of baseball for about a year and a half (not counting the stretch last year when he returned and then was shut down almost immediately) might be messing with his timing and he might be going through the slumps that power hitters like him sometimes go through.

Jeremy Nygaard
07-05-2012, 05:52 PM
With the extra days off for the All-Star break, hopefully the Twins will see fit to send Dozier, Deduno, DeVries, Fein, Waldrop, Robertson and anyone else back down to Rochester to get playing time, elevating a few folks back up here for a week like Valencia Guerra and Toshi, before sending them back down again. Let's really play the musical chair game and see folks before the trading begins.

FWIW, Deduno is out of options.

IdahoPilgrim
07-05-2012, 06:24 PM
While Morneau hasn't been showing any problems with concussion symptoms, the fact that he has been out of baseball for about a year and a half (not counting the stretch last year when he returned and then was shut down almost immediately) might be messing with his timing and he might be going through the slumps that power hitters like him sometimes go through.

It might not just be messing with his timing. His timing might be gone for good. Sometimes, especially after you turn 30, you don't bounce back. My greatest fear? It takes a full year plus to regain his timing, and we see the old Morneau return late next summer - just when his contract is about to expire. Then you have the problem of what do you do with him. Sign him to another big money contract? Let him be a free agent?

whatever54
07-05-2012, 06:45 PM
Anyone care to provide some history/insight into Deduno? I think the first I remember him being in the organization was this past Spring(?) and IIRC he pitched pretty well, but I don't know anything beyond that. Whatever help offered is appreciated!

IdahoPilgrim
07-05-2012, 10:58 PM
FWIW, Deduno is out of options.

That makes this kind of interesting. It means he either stays in Minnesota the rest of the season, or they have to DFA him and have him clear waivers before he can be sent back.

striker_86
07-05-2012, 11:08 PM
I'm excited to see this guy throw, its worth a shot!

glunn
07-06-2012, 01:45 AM
Anyone care to provide some history/insight into Deduno? I think the first I remember him being in the organization was this past Spring(?) and IIRC he pitched pretty well, but I don't know anything beyond that. Whatever help offered is appreciated!

Here is a link to Deduno's career stats: http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=465679

As you can see, he just had his 29th birthday, so he is not a young prospect. And he gives up a lot of walks, but also gets strikeouts and does not seem to give up a lot of home runs.

I like this move -- Deduno will either make it or not If he makes it, then he can competently fill a rotation spot. If he does not make it, then he will help the Twins get a better draft pick next year. I see possible upside and almost no downside to giving Deduno a chance.

PseudoSABR
07-06-2012, 02:34 AM
We'd all like to believe Parmelee has a bright future, but he wasn't going to play over Doumit/Morneau/Willingham/Mauer, so it makes complete sense to send the guy down to get at bats. The Twins have been oddly healthy on the offensive side of the ball the season, but of course that's undone by the absurd injuries and ineffectiveness of the pitching staff.

ScottyB
07-06-2012, 03:09 AM
If Span or Revere are traded, Parmelee will be back and in right field.

Mauerzy4Prez
07-06-2012, 07:29 AM
Talk about messing with a guys head... He hits two home runs in about a week, one against arguably the best pitcher in baseball and we wave bye bye. As much as I love D-Span, and as a fan really don't want to see him get traded. We may need to do something to open up a position for Parm. Parm is a solid hitter that needs to be playing everyday to keep refining his skills. Hopefully we trade Span by the deadline, have Chris play in AAA until then, and after the trade call him back up and give him a shot like Plouffey got to just play everyday somewhere.

adjacent
07-06-2012, 07:54 AM
Regarding to all this roster moves, Blackburn is not listed in the 40-man roster, and in the Rochester roster is listed as "reserve". Anybody knows what it means? Is he definitely out of the 40-man?

Jeremy Nygaard
07-06-2012, 08:15 AM
Regarding to all this roster moves, Blackburn is not listed in the 40-man roster, and in the Rochester roster is listed as "reserve". Anybody knows what it means? Is he definitely out of the 40-man?

I noticed that too. Blackburn was definitely optioned, so he is still on the 40-man. My guess is that he hasn't repoted to Rochester yet, so that's why he's listed as "reserve".

Cody Christie
07-06-2012, 08:18 AM
Parmelee sitting on the bench was starting to be ridiculous. Glad he will get to play somewhere. But there doesn't seem to be a spot for him to play on the Twins this season unless someone gets hurt.

Mauerzy4Prez
07-06-2012, 08:22 AM
Parmelee sitting on the bench was starting to be ridiculous. Glad he will get to play somewhere. But there doesn't seem to be a spot for him to play on the Twins this season unless someone gets hurt.

He will have a spot come the trade deadline. TR is shopping Span for starters... he is really our only option to trade that has value (and he is willing to move). I have seen lately more and more coming out that the Twins are likely to hold onto Willingham, and the only other trade options that may have any good value right now are basically Span and possibly Capps if he can recover well from his recent injury. Only time will tell, but I think sooner than later you will see Parm up again playing everyday in RF

Thrylos
07-06-2012, 09:08 AM
Anyone care to provide some history/insight into Deduno? I think the first I remember him being in the organization was this past Spring(?) and IIRC he pitched pretty well, but I don't know anything beyond that. Whatever help offered is appreciated!

Saw him pitch a couple months ago with Rochester against the IronPigs and at last Spring Training. Once a highly rated prospect of the Rockies, he was DFA'd before the 2011 season and then I think was picked up by the Padres where he pitched a tad out of the pen. 93-95 but fairly flat and wild 4-seamer, 91-92 2-seamer with decent movement, average change and a plus plus hammer curve. That last pitch is his out pitch. Once it on, and when he controls his fastball, he is practically uninhabitable. Given the Twins' tendencies, I was thinking that they will make him abandon his 4-seamer, but he was throwing it earlier this season in Rochester. Control is his big thing, but he is getting better after he came back from the DL for Rochester.

IdahoPilgrim
07-06-2012, 09:40 AM
Regarding to all this roster moves, Blackburn is not listed in the 40-man roster, and in the Rochester roster is listed as "reserve". Anybody knows what it means? Is he definitely out of the 40-man?

I'm guessing he's still on the 40-man and they don't have the websites updated. The same thing happened earlier this year when Parmelee was sent down for the first time. He also probably hasn't reported yet to Rochester (they have 3 days to report) so they might just have him on their reserve roster and not activated him yet.

diehardtwinsfan
07-06-2012, 09:44 AM
That makes this kind of interesting. It means he either stays in Minnesota the rest of the season, or they have to DFA him and have him clear waivers before he can be sent back.

perhaps I'm missing something, but if that is the case, then he would have had to have been DFAd when he was sent down initially. Options last the entire year. If he was optioned out of spring training, then the option is still good for the remainder of the year.

stringer bell
07-06-2012, 09:55 AM
perhaps I'm missing something, but if that is the case, then he would have had to have been DFAd when he was sent down initially. Options last the entire year. If he was optioned out of spring training, then the option is still good for the remainder of the year.Deduno wasn't on the 40-man roster. He was added when called up this week, so no need to option him.

Jeremy Nygaard
07-06-2012, 10:12 AM
That makes this kind of interesting. It means he either stays in Minnesota the rest of the season, or they have to DFA him and have him clear waivers before he can be sent back.

Looking at the pitchers on the active roster and disabled list:

Can't be optioned due to service time (3): Pavano, Capps, Liriano.
Out of options (6): Perkins, Burton, Swarzak, Gray, Walters, Deduno.
Option left, but not going anywhere (3): Diamond, Duensing, Burnett
Options remaining (4): De Vries, Waldrop, Robertson, Fien

My opinion is that the Twins planned on naming Deduno a starter as soon as Blackburn was demoted, but they also wanted to add to the bullpen in between those two starts. Fien provides an extra bullpen arm. The only other choice was Guerra, who has since been added to the D.L. When the Twins have to scale back an arm or two all of Fien, Waldrop and Robertson can simply be sent down.

For as much flack as the team gets for leaving injured guys on the active roster and wasting roster spots, they weren't giving enough (any?) credit for this piece of roster maneuvering.

John Bonnes
07-06-2012, 10:20 AM
In spring training, Deduno looked like he had major league stuff but couldn't harness it. With 22 BB in 42 IP in AAA, it doesn't look like he's past that. Cross our fingers, I guess.

whatever54
07-06-2012, 10:22 AM
Thanks glunn and thylos98, it kind of sounds like it may be now or never for the 29 year old with the wicked curve. It would be nice to see him salvage his career and help the Twins out at the same time. Go Sam!