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Brock Beauchamp
07-05-2012, 09:11 AM
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Nick Nelson
07-05-2012, 11:45 AM
Twins:
Span 8
Revere 9
Mauer DH
Doumit 2
Morneau 3
Plouffe 5
Mastroianni 7
Dozier 6
Carroll 4

Diamond P

Tigers:
Jackson 8
Raburn 7
Cabrera 5
Fielder 3
Young DH
Peralta 6
Boesch 9
Laird 2
Santiago 4

Porcello P

mikeee
07-05-2012, 11:51 AM
No hammer today. Just getting a rest day I hope.

J-Dog Dungan
07-05-2012, 11:54 AM
Twins have a serious drop-off in BA from Revere to Doumit.

DPJ
07-05-2012, 12:35 PM
So Willingham has hit Porcello to a 1.625 OPS and you rest him but play him against Verlander who he's hit to .472 OPS.

edavis0308
07-05-2012, 12:41 PM
So Willingham has hit Porcello to a 1.625 OPS and you rest him but play him against Verlander who he's hit to .472 OPS.

Manigin'

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 12:56 PM
Attaberry (sp) said that Willingham has a sore wrist. Possibly the reason why he isn't going today.

kydoty
07-05-2012, 01:08 PM
I'll probably be able to name all 50 of the greatest Twins players by memory after this series is over.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 01:27 PM
I'll probably be able to name all 50 of the greatest Twins players by memory after this series is over.LOL. Me too.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 01:34 PM
Joe Mauer no longer runs well, not even for a catcher.

USAFChief
07-05-2012, 01:40 PM
Either stop or run him over, joe

Nick Nelson
07-05-2012, 01:52 PM
Just miserably bad base running from the Twins, thrown out twice in a row at home. If the catcher is blocking the plate, RAIL HIM. These guys could take a few lessons from Pierzynski.

DPJ
07-05-2012, 01:54 PM
Just miserably bad base running from the Twins, thrown out twice in a row at home. If the catcher is blocking the plate, RAIL HIM. These guys could take a few lessons from Pierzynski.

Mastroianni and Doz have no business ever trying to run into anything.

USAFChief
07-05-2012, 01:56 PM
Is dozier that slow? How is he thrown out at home on a soft single with 2 outs?

Nick Nelson
07-05-2012, 02:02 PM
Is dozier that slow? How is he thrown out at home on a soft single with 2 outs?

He took a ridiculously wide turn around third base think that killed him.

glunn
07-05-2012, 02:05 PM
I am recording this game on DVR. It sounds like I will be cursing the screen again tonight.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 02:09 PM
I didn't notice Dozier's turn. I did notice that Raburn was very shallow. By the time the ump called Dozier out Raburn was in the infield.

glunn
07-05-2012, 02:09 PM
Six hits and one walk in 3 innings, yet only one run to show for it. The baserunning must be terrible today.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 02:13 PM
Just miserably bad base running from the Twins, thrown out twice in a row at home. If the catcher is blocking the plate, RAIL HIM. These guys could take a few lessons from Pierzynski. Both plays put pressure on a shaky Tiger defense. The Tigers executed perfectly on both plays. I don't fault Liddle for sending either guy. I'm upset that they aren't ahead 3-0 or more with their opportunities.

IdahoPilgrim
07-05-2012, 02:15 PM
Good first trip through the lineup for Diamond. Hope he can keep this up.

I don't fault them much for the putouts at the plate. Each time it was close and required a perfect throw. 2 out of 3 times at least 1 would get in.

IdahoPilgrim
07-05-2012, 02:18 PM
Fielder! Missed a tag twice at second trying to pick Mastroianni off!

mikeee
07-05-2012, 02:18 PM
At least we are hitting porcello. runs should come if that keeps up.
They were making a big deal that he'd allowed only 1 run in 20 innings.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 02:24 PM
I am recording this game on DVR. It sounds like I will be cursing the screen again tonight.You will enjoy the bunt play. Totally ironic that Laird got leveled by his own player after standing tall for two home plate tags.

nokomismod
07-05-2012, 02:24 PM
Did you guys see the botched bunt/botched catch by the Tigers??!! WTH? That was a fair ball.

DPJ
07-05-2012, 02:28 PM
I get sad everytime I was Porcello pitch. I watched a high school game of his and it was some Josh Beckett type stuff, mid-90's with a crazy cruve. Now he's pretty much Jon Garland.

Oh what could have been...

glunn
07-05-2012, 02:28 PM
You will enjoy the bunt play. Totally ironic that Laird got leveled by his own player after standing tall for two home plate tags.

I will look forward to that.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 02:28 PM
Did you guys see the botched bunt/botched catch by the Tigers??!! WTH? That was a fair ball.Sure thought it was a fair ball.

Meanwhile more interesting plays in the infield. Span gets one off Porcello's glove for an RBI infield single.

Scheherezade
07-05-2012, 02:29 PM
For all of the Twins griping, be glad that Prince Fielder didn't level your CATCHER.

jokin
07-05-2012, 02:29 PM
You will enjoy the bunt play. Totally ironic that Laird got leveled by his own player after standing tall for two home plate tags.

The difference is Fielder's weighs more than the two Twins runners combined.

glunn
07-05-2012, 02:31 PM
Watching the balls and strikes on the internet, it looks like the home plate ump has a very small strike zone today. Is that true?

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 02:33 PM
Ouch! That's gotta hurt.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 02:34 PM
Watching the balls and strikes on the internet, it looks like the home plate ump has a very small strike zone today. Is that true?I thought at least a half dozen pitches called balls were strikes.

jokin
07-05-2012, 02:35 PM
The difference is Fielder's weighs more than the two Twins runners combined.


Tigers need less Fielders in the field and more fielders in the field. As brought up in the Casilla thread, Dombrowski has to be in denial at what's happening out there. It took Fielder almost 5 minutes to acknowledge that he almost ended his teammate's career, careless play, yes, but add oblivious and/or clueless- if not greviously indifferent to the description of his defensive ability.

DPJ
07-05-2012, 02:36 PM
As crazy as baseball is predict, everyone and there mom knew the Tigers would have a god awful infield defense and hot damn if it didn't happen.

jokin
07-05-2012, 02:39 PM
Tigers need less Fielders in the field and more fielders in the field. As brought up in the Casilla thread, Dombrowski has to be in denial at what's happening out there. It took Fielder almost 5 minutes to acknowledge that he almost ended his teammate's career, careless play, yes, but add oblivious and/or clueless- if not greviously indifferent to the description of his defensive ability.

BTW, this inning demonstrated that neither Fielder or Cabrera can see their own toes, let alone be able to touch them.

DPJ
07-05-2012, 02:41 PM
BTW, this inning demonstrated that neither Fielder or Cabrera can see their own toes, let alone be able to touch them.

Of the Tigers games I've watched, Miggy really haven't been the abomination at 3B I thought he would be.

USAFChief
07-05-2012, 02:45 PM
Of the Tigers games I've watched, Miggy really haven't been the abomination at 3B I thought he would be.
Agree. From what I've read, tiger fans have been pleasantly surprised. He's no gold glover, but he has made the plays he should make. I'd find a spot for him in thr twins lineup.;)

Scheherezade
07-05-2012, 02:45 PM
Of the Tigers games I've watched, Miggy really haven't been the abomination at 3B I thought he would be.

Yeah, he pulled an Air Jordan to grab Morneau's bases loaded line drive to save a couple runs.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 02:48 PM
Only ahead by two when outhitting them by 10. Time to put up a screen in front of the pitchers?

DPJ
07-05-2012, 02:50 PM
12 hits, 2 steals and 3 runs scored...Twins Baseball!

glunn
07-05-2012, 02:53 PM
12 hits, 2 steals and 3 runs scored...Twins Baseball!

I am wondering if the Twins might break some record today in terms of fewest runs scored compared with total men on base.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 02:54 PM
Roy Smalley is harping about Plouffe going after high fastballs. He is absolutely right!

jokin
07-05-2012, 02:55 PM
Shocking, Santiago muffs another dying quail.

USAFChief
07-05-2012, 02:57 PM
Roy Smalley is harping about Plouffe going after high fastballs. He is absolutely right!


Yup. Ploufey seems to me to have a good eye inside/outside, but struggles with up/down. Still and all, as of today he has a higher ISO than Spansie.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 02:57 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if all they get is three runs. This has been one wierd game.

TwinVike61
07-05-2012, 02:57 PM
Dozier is 3 for 3 so far today...looks like Gardy's office visit hit home with him.

jokin
07-05-2012, 02:59 PM
Of the Tigers games I've watched, Miggy really haven't been the abomination at 3B I thought he would be.

I agree- too good an athlete, but that inability to tag out Mastro was Biggest Loser-chuckle-worthy champ if not for Fielder's missed tag(s) at first.

jokin
07-05-2012, 03:00 PM
Only ahead by two when outhitting them by 10. Time to put up a screen in front of the pitchers?

I was thinking the same thing. That's worthy of a Joe Soucheray- "In my lifetime"- predictions.

DPJ
07-05-2012, 03:03 PM
Extra base hit...what the hell is that.

Can they do that, is it legal?

glunn
07-05-2012, 03:04 PM
This game is getting too close -- Twins need to get to the Tigers' relievers.

CDog
07-05-2012, 03:08 PM
This has been one wierd game.

Was just coming on to say exactly this. I know it's not over by a long shot, but I would say it's already a candidate for the season's leader for "weird" moments.

CDog
07-05-2012, 03:10 PM
Roy Smalley is harping about Plouffe going after high fastballs. He is absolutely right!

I've really enjoyed what Roy has brought to the booth this year. Very clearly a guy who, at the very least, has spent a LOT of time thinking about and studying the game (and hitting in particular).

snepp
07-05-2012, 03:12 PM
I wonder how Smalley would do on the radio. Couldn't be any worse than Gladden.


He wouldn't get to show off that hair though.

DPJ
07-05-2012, 03:24 PM
I'm gonna make a call, Morneau will get a hit against Downs (lefty)

snepp
07-05-2012, 03:26 PM
I'll call a strikeout.



I win, and at the same time lose.

DPJ
07-05-2012, 03:27 PM
Stupid Morneau...

glunn
07-05-2012, 03:36 PM
Damn Delmon Young -- now we need a double play.

mikeee
07-05-2012, 03:43 PM
7 innings from Diamond..

nokomismod
07-05-2012, 03:48 PM
Maestroani!

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 03:48 PM
Stupid Morneau...I wish he would get it going so he had some trade value!

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 03:50 PM
DeMuth's zone seems to have gotten bigger. Third guy tagged out at home.

GCTF
07-05-2012, 03:50 PM
Splendid!!

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 03:51 PM
Carroll going through his roughest stretch since the start of the season.

IdahoPilgrim
07-05-2012, 03:51 PM
That was bad luck. Carroll tried to make contact on the bunt, but the ball was WAY out of the zone - almost a wild pitch.

snepp
07-05-2012, 03:51 PM
*grumble*

*eyeroll*

*sigh*

mikeee
07-05-2012, 03:53 PM
that hurt. we could have used that run....

GCTF
07-05-2012, 03:53 PM
*grumble*

*eyeroll*

*sigh*

Watch it, pottymouth.

nicksaviking
07-05-2012, 03:55 PM
I'm only seeing the game on a gamecast. Did Mastroianni seriously get tagged out on a failed squeeze?

GCTF
07-05-2012, 03:56 PM
Taking the extra base.

IdahoPilgrim
07-05-2012, 03:56 PM
I'm only seeing the game on a gamecast. Did Mastroianni seriously get tagged out on a failed squeeze?

Yep. Pitch was way low and outside and Carroll couldn't get wood on it.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 03:56 PM
Another fine outing for Diamond. He now has thrown 79 innings. Only three innings short of qualifying for ERA honors.

snepp
07-05-2012, 03:57 PM
I'm only seeing the game on a gamecast. Did Mastroianni seriously get tagged out on a failed squeeze?

The pitch was pretty much un-buntable.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 03:58 PM
Incredible that this game is getting away given how many chances they had.

snepp
07-05-2012, 04:00 PM
Incredible that this game is getting away given how many chances they had.

Incredible is one word for it, I've been using a few others.

snepp
07-05-2012, 04:00 PM
@#$%

mike wants wins
07-05-2012, 04:02 PM
And people still think this team is in contention for something other than worst record.....

nokomismod
07-05-2012, 04:02 PM
Cabrera is a machine. Burnett's curveball is sharp, but I question whey they threw the breaking ball to the lanky fellow who hit before Cabrera on a 3 ball count.

glunn
07-05-2012, 04:02 PM
If the Twins lose, I will not blame them for being demoralized. This is a game that should have been won by a big margin.

DPJ
07-05-2012, 04:03 PM
Weren't the words "don't let Miguel Cabrera beat you" said before this series started?

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 04:03 PM
I doubt Robertson gets Prince this time.

glunn
07-05-2012, 04:04 PM
And people still think this team is in contention for something other than worst record.....

On the bright side, the Twins may get more high draft picks next year.

jokin
07-05-2012, 04:04 PM
That's all folks!

snepp
07-05-2012, 04:05 PM
Well that was awesome.

nokomismod
07-05-2012, 04:05 PM
ouch!! Hurts less when we are not in playoff contention.

IdahoPilgrim
07-05-2012, 04:05 PM
At least Diamond doesn't get tagged with the loss - he pitched a fine game.

DPJ
07-05-2012, 04:05 PM
3 ****ing runs tagged out at home.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 04:05 PM
I think I like Prince Fielder less and less as time goes by.

glunn
07-05-2012, 04:06 PM
I doubt Robertson gets Prince this time.

You called that one correctly. This has now crossed the line into sickening.

Shane Wahl
07-05-2012, 04:08 PM
Brian Duensing would have been ideal in that situation, but the damn fools have made him into a starter again.

nicksaviking
07-05-2012, 04:09 PM
Not to be the hindsight guy, but why was Diamond pulled after 91 pitches? You'd think the de facto ace would get to cross the 100 pitch mark if things are going well, especially considering how he is the only one who can be regularly counted on for giving the bullpen a break.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 04:09 PM
Tigers have the best hitter in Miggy and the best pitcher in Verlander. They have a couple of other good hitters, but the key guy might be Jackson. He looked bad going 0-2 twice and ended up with a double and triple, scoring both times.

greengoblinrulz
07-05-2012, 04:11 PM
When you decide to go with Burnett/Robertson......and rest your 2 best....instead of trying to win w/Burton/Perkins........whatta expect

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 04:11 PM
And now we woke up Delmon!

jokin
07-05-2012, 04:11 PM
Brian Duensing would have been ideal in that situation, but the damn fools have made him into a starter again.

I hesitated on putting Robertson into my why we sign Brian Fuentes thread-post, but with apologies to Nick Nelson, Duensing was perfectly suited for his RP role and demonstrated in the past as an SP, not so much.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 04:12 PM
When you decide to go with Burnett/Robertson......and rest your 2 best....instead of trying to win w/Burton/Perkins........whatta expectI don't know why he didn't go Perkins/Burton unless he wanted to give Perkins two days off.

jokin
07-05-2012, 04:13 PM
Not to be the hindsight guy, but why was Diamond pulled after 91 pitches? You'd think the de facto ace would get to cross the 100 pitch mark if things are going well, especially considering how he is the only one who can be regularly counted on for giving the bullpen a break.

I'm guessing Gardy would hand you the line-up and say something like, "c'mon, that's simple stuff".

snepp
07-05-2012, 04:13 PM
This game is making me sad.

snepp
07-05-2012, 04:14 PM
I don't know why he didn't go Perkins/Burton unless he wanted to give Perkins two days off.

You can't pitch your "closer" before the 9th inning, blasphemer.


And why would you want your best relievers facing the top/middle of order when they could face the bottom in the next inning?

Turd Furgeson
07-05-2012, 04:14 PM
Weren't the words "don't let Miguel Cabrera beat you" said before this series started?

I'm sure every team says that before a series is started with the Tigers.

jokin
07-05-2012, 04:15 PM
You can't pitch your "closer" before the 9th inning, blasphemer.

But these two are our bi-closers and we were assured they would both be available today. Terrible BP management.

IdahoPilgrim
07-05-2012, 04:21 PM
Granted, this game got away from us, but let's look at the larger picture - if someone had told you Monday morning that the Twins would split with Detroit, in Detroit, would you have taken it?

Westgaard66
07-05-2012, 04:22 PM
This game hurt to watch.
3 runs lost at the plate
The stupid squeeze play bothers me. Everyone saw it coming.
Why pull diamond?

GCTF
07-05-2012, 04:24 PM
you can't pitch your "closer" before the 9th inning, blasphemer.


And why would you want your best relievers facing the top/middle of order when they could face the bottom in the next inning?

moty

snepp
07-05-2012, 04:30 PM
moty

MotC

nokomismod
07-05-2012, 04:31 PM
This game hurt to watch.
3 runs lost at the plate
The stupid squeeze play bothers me. Everyone saw it coming.
Why pull diamond?
I didn't see the need to Squeeze there either. Dotel is not a dominant pitcher anymore, and Carrol or Span could have made contact.

snepp
07-05-2012, 04:34 PM
Dotel is not a dominant pitcher anymore, and Carrol or Span could have made contact.

13 k/9

5 k/bb


Nope, not dominant at all.

mikeee
07-05-2012, 04:34 PM
that was a bummer of a loss.

nokomismod
07-05-2012, 04:37 PM
13 k/9

5 k/bb


Nope, not dominant at all.
I stand corrected! Just from watching him the past couple of games against the Twins I never would have guessed that. Thank you for pointing that out.

snepp
07-05-2012, 04:47 PM
I admit to not realizing how good those figures were until I looked them up. :p

mike wants wins
07-05-2012, 04:47 PM
You can't pitch your "closer" before the 9th inning, blasphemer.


And why would you want your best relievers facing the top/middle of order when they could face the bottom in the next inning?

Gawd I love this post....makes a great point, and is just oozing sarcasm.

snepp
07-05-2012, 04:53 PM
Gardy just said in the postgame that Perkins was not available today, fwiw.

Shane Wahl
07-05-2012, 04:56 PM
You can't pitch your "closer" before the 9th inning, blasphemer.


And why would you want your best relievers facing the top/middle of order when they could face the bottom in the next inning?


Haha! Ulgh, this also makes me feel a little sick. Gardy was going with his "heart" again.

glunn
07-05-2012, 05:00 PM
I think that I will erase this game from my DVR without watching it.

one_eyed_jack
07-05-2012, 05:01 PM
I've gotta think it's pretty rare for a team to get 6 hits with RISP and only score 3 runs.

What a frustrating day.

I could be wrong about this, but it sure seems like one of the many problems this team as had this year is the way it consistently squanders chances for big innings that would put them comfortably ahead. Today was another game we had a chance to jump out to a big lead and didn't.

Even in a lot of our wins (and we have more 1-run wins than anyone else in the AL), I feel like there have been a lot of blown chances to bust games open, and they ended up being nail-biters. Maybe the bullpen could have been conserved a bit better had we been up 5 instead of up 1 going into the 9th in some of those games.

Perhaps the Twins stastistically really aren't much worse than anyone else in this area, but I sure feel like I've watched a lot of innings where the Twins walked away with 1 run when they could, and probably should, have had at least 3.

snepp
07-05-2012, 05:01 PM
I think that I will erase this game from my DVR without watching it.

You should at least check out the comedic highlights.

jctwins
07-05-2012, 05:15 PM
On the bright side, 115 posts for a day game.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 05:18 PM
Well, Gardy wasn't going to use Perkins, so that kinda forced it to be Burnett/Robertson. Perhaps he could have gone with Burton for Miggy/Prince. but I doubt he would want to bring Burton back for the ninth with a lead or tied.

The Twins narrative is now to finger starting pitchers for all of this--fraying the bullpen and limiting the managers options--there is some truth to this but the off field staff has to take the blame for having a dreadful starting rotation.

snepp
07-05-2012, 05:18 PM
On the bright side, 115 posts for a day game.

Half of them me being an ass.

USAFChief
07-05-2012, 05:25 PM
Worst loss of the year?

Granted, there are a lot to choose from.

I think Gardy's hands were a bit tied regarding the bullpen situation. Not sure why you pull Diamond, but I'll defer judgement on that. More proof that the soft underbelly of a bullpen is going to get exposed over the course of a season. You can't just have 2 or 3 reliable relievers and expect them to take all the high leverage innings.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 06:00 PM
Worst loss of the year?

Granted, there are a lot to choose from.

I think Gardy's hands were a bit tied regarding the bullpen situation. Not sure why you pull Diamond, but I'll defer judgement on that. More proof that the soft underbelly of a bullpen is going to get exposed over the course of a season. You can't just have 2 or 3 reliable relievers and expect them to take all the high leverage innings.Bullpens don't get easily exposed if you have two or three guys who work 180-200 innings. Gardenhire mentioned the heat in regard to taking Diamond out--don't know if that is excuse making 101.

stringer bell
07-05-2012, 06:04 PM
I've gotta think it's pretty rare for a team to get 6 hits with RISP and only score 3 runs.

What a frustrating day.

I could be wrong about this, but it sure seems like one of the many problems this team as had this year is the way it consistently squanders chances for big innings that would put them comfortably ahead. Today was another game we had a chance to jump out to a big lead and didn't.

Even in a lot of our wins (and we have more 1-run wins than anyone else in the AL), I feel like there have been a lot of blown chances to bust games open, and they ended up being nail-biters. Maybe the bullpen could have been conserved a bit better had we been up 5 instead of up 1 going into the 9th in some of those games.

Perhaps the Twins stastistically really aren't much worse than anyone else in this area, but I sure feel like I've watched a lot of innings where the Twins walked away with 1 run when they could, and probably should, have had at least 3.Pretty much agree Jack. Sometimes an infield hit isn't as good as getting one to the outfield. It also hurts that the Twins have hitters that are played shallow at least in their off field (Span's single in which Dozier was thrown out).

IdahoPilgrim
07-05-2012, 06:26 PM
I think that I will erase this game from my DVR without watching it.

I don't know - watching the Detroit pitcher run over and knock down his own catcher was pretty good.

Dilligaf69
07-05-2012, 07:39 PM
Pretty much agree Jack. Sometimes an infield hit isn't as good as getting one to the outfield. It also hurts that the Twins have hitters that are played shallow at least in their off field (Span's single in which Dozier was thrown out).


Agree..15 hits and only 3 runs is almost unheard of and frankly inexcusable...the pen was due for a tough game but a few more hits w/risp this yr and we could easily have 4-5 more wins even with our brutal starting pitching.

jokin
07-05-2012, 10:32 PM
I don't know - watching the Detroit pitcher run over and knock down his own catcher was pretty good.

Fielder's forearm played a large part in indenting Laird head and face.

John Bonnes
07-05-2012, 11:28 PM
To me, this game was lost in the 8th. And that's mostly on Gardy.

Yeah, there wer mistakes made at home plate, but they were good aggressive mistakes. Runners were left on base, but I'm not going to hammer Plouffe too much for leaving the bases loaded. The Twins were also shut out by Downs for multiple innings.

If Perk was unavailable, they I understand why Burnett started the 8th. But why wasn't Robertson warmed up? You could see Gardy swearing when Burnett was facing (and walking) the lefty. Was he swearing at a miscommunication or himself?

I gotta say, I feel like the Twins have a lot of promising arms in their bullpen, but their availability is awfully limited. Perk pitched the 2nd and the 3rd, but not the 4th. There is stuff going on there that we don't know about.

CDog
07-06-2012, 12:38 AM
I think that I will erase this game from my DVR without watching it.

If you haven't already deleted it, as mentioned already, the first four innings are full of weirdness that you might find interesting. The plays at the plate (I got to wondering if I had ever seen back to back pitches lead to tag outs at home), the missed pickoff tags, the three-way collision, etc.

I'd quickly stop, delete, and move on with your day not much after that 4th inning, though, unless you're fairly masochistic.

CDog
07-06-2012, 12:44 AM
If Perk was unavailable, they I understand why Burnett started the 8th. But why wasn't Robertson warmed up? You could see Gardy swearing when Burnett was facing (and walking) the lefty. Was he swearing at a miscommunication or himself?

I gotta say, I feel like the Twins have a lot of promising arms in their bullpen, but their availability is awfully limited. Perk pitched the 2nd and the 3rd, but not the 4th. There is stuff going on there that we don't know about.

In the postgame, Gardenhire seemed to think that Burnett walking Berry was the big mistake of that inning, so I would imagine that's what had him upset. I wouldn't have expected him to go with Robertson there with Cabrera on deck anyway, regardless of Robertson being ready or not, would he?

As for Perkins, not only had he pitched the 2nd and 3rd, but also the 1st and 30th. Was the first time in his career he'd worked four straight days according to the radio broadcast. I'm guessing that had something to do with the second day off (I wondered if it being a day game mattered, but don't know how much that would matter).

USAFChief
07-06-2012, 01:01 AM
In the postgame, Gardenhire seemed to think that Burnett walking Berry was the big mistake of that inning, so I would imagine that's what had him upset. I wouldn't have expected him to go with Robertson there with Cabrera on deck anyway, regardless of Robertson being ready or not, would he?

As for Perkins, not only had he pitched the 2nd and 3rd, but also the 1st and 30th. Was the first time in his career he'd worked four straight days according to the radio broadcast. I'm guessing that had something to do with the second day off (I wondered if it being a day game mattered, but don't know how much that would matter).

Agree with everything in this post. Hard to blame Gardy when his options are limited. If you're forced into using Burnett in the late innings, facing 9-1-2 in the 8th and leaving Burton for the 9th seems logical to me.

The bullpen pitched a lot of innings this week. It caught up to them.

glunn
07-06-2012, 01:30 AM
If you haven't already deleted it, as mentioned already, the first four innings are full of weirdness that you might find interesting. The plays at the plate (I got to wondering if I had ever seen back to back pitches lead to tag outs at home), the missed pickoff tags, the three-way collision, etc.

I'd quickly stop, delete, and move on with your day not much after that 4th inning, though, unless you're fairly masochistic.

Good idea, I will try that.

snepp
07-09-2012, 04:06 PM
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