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Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 10:02 AM
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Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 10:10 AM
Lineups:

Twins
Revere CF
Mastroianni RF
Mauer C
Willingham LF
Morneau 1B
Plouffe 3B
Dozier SS
Casilla 2B
(Diamond P)

Reds
Heisey CF
Valdez SS
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Ludwick LF
Frazier 3B
Mesoraco C
(Leake P)

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 10:25 AM
Why on earth is Mastrionni hitting 2nd?

GCTF
06-24-2012, 10:36 AM
Why on earth is Mastrionni hitting 2nd?

Whatever happened to play 2nd, bat 2nd?

stringer bell
06-24-2012, 12:07 PM
Two predictions: 1) It will take six or more runs to win today's game. 2) Somebody who currently has zero homers for the Twins will go deep today.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 12:14 PM
I just turned on the game. Did they really just sacrifice in the first inning?

Please tell me that I misunderstood the split-second clip I saw.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 12:28 PM
I just turned on the game. Did they really just sacrifice in the first inning?

Please tell me that I misunderstood the split-second clip I saw.
Mastroinanni hits like a pitcher, I have no issue with it.

edavis0308
06-24-2012, 12:29 PM
I just turned on the game. Did they really just sacrifice in the first inning?

Please tell me that I misunderstood the split-second clip I saw.

They did it because Revere isn't fast enough to steal second.

CDog
06-24-2012, 12:31 PM
I just turned on the game. Did they really just sacrifice in the first inning?

Please tell me that I misunderstood the split-second clip I saw.

Sure looked like he was bunting for a hit to me.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 12:35 PM
They did it because Revere isn't fast enough to steal second.

Yeah... The was a dumb move no matter how you look at it. You don't play for one run in the first. Let Revere steal second if you think it's that important to get him out of the double play. He'll get there, he's fast enough.

notoriousgod71
06-24-2012, 12:51 PM
Diamond head hunting apparently.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 12:54 PM
Ah, love those two-out sac flies.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 12:57 PM
You know you're a legitimate power threat when the third baseman charges home when you're swinging and still manages to catch the ball you hit over his head.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 12:59 PM
Josh Willingham is Mercurial.

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:03 PM
Nice play by Dozier.

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:07 PM
Back to back strikeouts by Diamond -- now we need runs.

mhanson93
06-24-2012, 01:11 PM
Plouffe!!!

Ultima Ratio
06-24-2012, 01:12 PM
1. Atta boy Plouffe

2. Morneau is hacking like Delmon Young, no discipline.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 01:12 PM
Plouffe!!!!

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:13 PM
After 6 consecutive strikeouts, Plouffe finally gets another home run -- his 15th of the year.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 01:29 PM
Wow! That may be the most foolish Votto has looked at the plate all year!

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:30 PM
Diamond strikes out Votto with 3 pitches -- Reds' announcers are very impressed with Diamond.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 01:30 PM
Diamond has certainly handled Votto today.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 01:32 PM
This is another reason I like pitcher's duels - faster game pace. Six full innings in 81 minutes.

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 01:33 PM
Is it me, or are close plays at the plate awesome? I used to love how aggressive the Twins used to be running the bases to make teams make a perfect throw like Dozier just made. Of course, that was in the dome when they had a ton of speed on the team.

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:34 PM
Terrible baserunning by the Reds gets Diamond out of the inning. Diamond has thrown only 60 pitches through 6 innings.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 01:38 PM
Sigh. This team can't even get lucky with a bouncing ball.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 01:38 PM
Is it me, or are close plays at the plate awesome? I used to love how aggressive the Twins used to be running the bases to make teams make a perfect throw like Dozier just made. Of course, that was in the dome when they had a ton of speed on the team.

I love it too.

Did anybody else cringe, just a bit, when Mauer had to make a play at the plate?:) Nice clean play, though, both ways.

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:39 PM
Nice play by Reds second baseman to get Willingham at the plate. Not a great slide by Willingham, who seemed surprised.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 01:39 PM
Wow, nice play by Phillips.

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 01:40 PM
Nice play by Reds second baseman to get Willingham at the plate. Not a great slide by Willingham, who seemed surprised.

I agree, he could have scored with a little better slide. Span is excellent at hitting the corners on slides.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 01:40 PM
2nd and 3rd, nobody out with Morneau and Plouffe due up, very disappointing to only come away with 1 run.

notoriousgod71
06-24-2012, 01:40 PM
I love it too.

Did anybody else cringe, just a bit, when Mauer had to make a play at the plate?:) Nice clean play, though, both ways.

Personally I would love to see if he could handle getting run over. I don't want him to get Posey'd but if it was a Lonnie Smith/Brian Harper collision I'd be all for it.

USAFChief
06-24-2012, 01:44 PM
Mauer looked pretty clumsy on that play at the plate, again. Sticks his left leg out instead of blocking the plate. He had like 5 seconds to set up there too.

Tough luck for the Twins on the Plouffe AB. Hit it hard but perfect bounce and nice play by Phillips.

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:45 PM
Diamond is throwing strikes and trusting his stuff. A complete game seems possible here.

USAFChief
06-24-2012, 01:47 PM
Nobody covers second. Uffda.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 01:47 PM
Ugh! With Dozier it seems to be 1.25 steps forward, 1 step back.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 01:48 PM
Good lord.

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 01:48 PM
Young player. Like I said with Plouffe when he was making mistakes at SS, the game is much faster and a single mental lapse is magnified.

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:49 PM
Ugh! With Dozier it seems to be 1.25 steps forward, 1 step back.

But Diamond makes it moot by getting the final out. If Diamond keeps pitching like this, the one run lead may hold up.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 01:49 PM
That isn't a small lapse, that is crap you learn in little league. Gave away a sure out as the slow catcher would have been out by a mile.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 01:50 PM
It's nice to see Diamond pitching well again after a a rough couple of starts.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 01:52 PM
Sure would be nice to get a couple more runs and give Diamond/pen a little breathing room.

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:53 PM
That isn't a small lapse, that is crap you learn in little league. Gave away a sure out as the slow catcher would have been out by a mile.

The Reds' announcers attributed the lapse to a lack of familiarity with National League baserunning strategy.

stringer bell
06-24-2012, 01:53 PM
Really good corner OF defense in the sixth. Mastro kept Bruce at first on his liner toward the corner and then J-Will played the next ball very well setting up the relay that got Bruce by plenty.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 01:53 PM
C'mon Scotty! Help your own cause. Crank one outta here! (Hey, a guy can dream).

USAFChief
06-24-2012, 01:53 PM
Are we absolutely sure it was Dozier who was supposed to cover 2nd there?

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:53 PM
Sure would be nice to get a couple more runs and give Diamond/pen a little breathing room.

Diamond can help himself with a home run here.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 01:54 PM
I'm guessing that's the last we see a pitcher bat today.

USAFChief
06-24-2012, 01:55 PM
The Reds' announcers attributed the lapse to a lack of familiarity with National League baserunning strategy.

Apparently they haven't heard stolen bases have been legal in the AL for a couple years now.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 01:55 PM
Are we absolutely sure it was Dozier who was supposed to cover 2nd there?

We're guessing, but the fact that he eventually headed that way once he saw the runner going seems to indicate he thought it was his responsibility.

glunn
06-24-2012, 01:57 PM
I'm guessing that's the last we see a pitcher bat today.

And for the rest of this season -- final inter-league game of this year.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 01:57 PM
Are we absolutely sure it was Dozier who was supposed to cover 2nd there?

Yes, I imagine the Twins were playing against the bunt which means the SS needs to cover 2nd in case of a steal.

stringer bell
06-24-2012, 01:58 PM
Prediction: Diamond goes until he allows a baserunner in the eighth.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 01:59 PM
Hell of an attempt by Dozier.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 01:59 PM
And for the rest of this season -- final inter-league game of this year.

What about the world series :)

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:01 PM
Diamond didn't do anything wrong there. Votto is just that kind of hitter. There are only a few guys who could take that pitch and go opposite field homerun with it.

In other words, wow.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 02:01 PM
Votto: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:02 PM
Prediction: Diamond goes until he allows a baserunner in the eighth.

In hindsight, I wish that this prediction had been correct.

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 02:02 PM
Votto: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

Fool me three times.... and you can't get fooled again.

USAFChief
06-24-2012, 02:02 PM
Diamond didn't do anything wrong there. Votto is just that kind of hitter. There are only a few guys who could take that pitch and go opposite field homerun with it.

In other words, wow.

I was thinking the exact same thing. "How the &%$&$# did he hit THAT out?"

Morneau used to be one of those guys, BTW. Good times.

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:03 PM
What about the world series :)

In my dreams for sure, but probably not in the real world.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:03 PM
In hindsight, I wish that this prediction had been correct.

With Capps injured, Perkins would have been "unavailable" (yay for the save statistic). Outside of Perkins, Diamond was the best option against Votto.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 02:04 PM
Well that sucked. Twins offense let Diamond down today big time.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 02:04 PM
Hey, the guy's probably going to be the NL MVP. We just saw why.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:04 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing. "How the &%$&$# did he hit THAT out?"

Morneau used to be one of those guys, BTW. Good times.

Yeah, that swing brought back memories of pre-concussion Morneau. That was the first thing I thought when I saw it.

Flailing at a pitch low and away, looking like he made poor contact, and then the ball travels 300+ feet opposite field.

stringer bell
06-24-2012, 02:05 PM
Yea--Diamond gets a complete game, but the Twins get a loss. I can't see them scoring off of Chapman.

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:06 PM
Another nice play by Dozier -- now we need a run against the Reds' closer. Wife is pestering me to leave for Costco. I will be in big trouble if this goes to extra innings.

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 02:07 PM
How would a Glavine comp for Diamond be? I think Glavine had a few more mph on his fastball and a little better stuff, but I don't think that would be a too far fetched goal for Diamond.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:07 PM
I have the distinct feeling that this half-inning is going to be cringe-worthy.

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 02:08 PM
Why the **** is Doumit not hitting?

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:09 PM
Why the **** is Doumit not hitting?

Because Mastrioanni was the (26th) best option Gardy had.

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:09 PM
I have the distinct feeling that this half-inning is going to be cringe-worthy.

So far so true.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 02:10 PM
How would a Glavine comp for Diamond be? I think Glavine had a few more mph on his fastball and a little better stuff, but I don't think that would be a too far fetched goal for Diamond.

Tom Glavine? Future hall of famer Tom Glavine?

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:13 PM
Diamond threw only 82 pitches in 8 innings today -- pretty impressive.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:13 PM
That was one hell of an at bat by Baby Jesus.

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:14 PM
Nice hit by Mauer -- now it's Hammer Time.

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 02:14 PM
Tom Glavine? Future hall of famer Tom Glavine?

I'm not trying to say Diamond will have a career path similar to his, but his pitching style and make-up are pretty similar (I think). I used to watch braves games when I was young and Glavine was in his prime. Maybe I'm wrong, but for some reason Diamond makes me think of Glavine.

Ultima Ratio
06-24-2012, 02:16 PM
Helloooooooooo... goodbyeeeeeeee!

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:17 PM
I love it when I'm a pessimistic ass and the team proves me wrong. Beautiful.

notoriousgod71
06-24-2012, 02:17 PM
The hammer!!!!!!

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 02:17 PM
Awesome game. Wish I was there. This is what good baseball looks like.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 02:17 PM
Trevor: "Hey, Josh - do you wanna have a HR contest today?"

Josh: "Sure, Trev - sounds like fun."

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:17 PM
Chapman grooved that fastball right into Willingham's wheelhouse.

Ultima Ratio
06-24-2012, 02:18 PM
That was one hell of an at bat by Baby Jesus.

It was a baby miracle.

Kobs
06-24-2012, 02:18 PM
Mauer knows the strike zone so well...

notoriousgod71
06-24-2012, 02:18 PM
If the Twins were anywhere near contention Willingham would be an MVP candidate now that Hamilton has cooled off.

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:18 PM
Suck on that one Reds -- Hammer's blast not even close -- he got all of that one -- upper deck and then some. And now Plouffe will get a chance to add his second homer of the day (after Morneau grounds out).

USAFChief
06-24-2012, 02:19 PM
That was one hell of an at bat by Baby Jesus.

Concur. ...

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 02:19 PM
They mentioned on the broadcast the this is the 3rd blown save Chapman has had against an AL Central team.

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:19 PM
Trevor: "Hey, Josh - do you wanna have a HR contest today?"

Josh: "Sure, Trev - sounds like fun."

Good one, SB.

Ultima Ratio
06-24-2012, 02:19 PM
What can the Twins do to get Morneau back to form, especially his futility against southpaws? He look horrible out there.

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:20 PM
C'mon Trevor -- you need to win today's HR derby.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:25 PM
C'mon, Perkins.

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:27 PM
C'mon, Perkins.

My sentiments exactly.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:27 PM
I so want to like Casilla. He's a talented player when his head isn't planted in his ass.

stringer bell
06-24-2012, 02:27 PM
"Six or more runs to win the game". Nope "Homer by a guy with zero homers." Un uh "Diamond leaves if allowing a baserunner in the eighth." Regrettably no. "Twins having no chance against Chapman". Not so much. Not very good at predicting today.

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:28 PM
That walk of the first batter was not a good thing, so hopefully Perk can strike these next 2 guys out.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 02:28 PM
Strikes, Burton! Throw strikes!

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 02:28 PM
"Six or more runs to win the game". Nope "Homer by a guy with zero homers." Un uh "Diamond leaves if allowing a baserunner in the eighth." Regrettably no. "Twins having no chance against Chapman". Not so much. Not very good at predicting today.

Awesomeness

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 02:29 PM
That walk of the first batter was not a good thing, so hopefully Perk can strike these next 2 guys out.

Burton is actually pitching right now.

Celebrity Weddings!
06-24-2012, 02:30 PM
What can the Twins do to get Morneau back to form, especially his futility against southpaws? He look horrible out there.

I'm not really sure facing a lefty who throws 102mph and strikes out nearly half the batters he faces results in the sort of horrible-looking that can be fixed by coaching.

glunn
06-24-2012, 02:30 PM
Burton is actually pitching right now.

WTF -- where is Perkins??

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 02:31 PM
Why do the Twins always need to make these games so dramatic?

GCTF
06-24-2012, 02:31 PM
Taking the scenic route to win this thing.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 02:31 PM
WTF -- where is Perkins??

Perkins is in the pen, warming up. I'm guessing, since he pitched last night, they were hoping Burton could do the job today.

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 02:32 PM
WTF -- where is Perkins??

The Reds have a lot of RH hitters up so Burton got to start the inning. Perkins is warming up.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:32 PM
I'm not really sure facing a lefty who throws 102mph and strikes out nearly half the batters he faces results in the sort of horrible-looking that can be fixed by coaching.

Question: would you have pinch-hit Doumit in that situation? Or for Mastrioanni?

I don't understand why Ryan wasn't out there to lead off the inning.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:32 PM
Perkins is in the pen, warming up. I'm guessing, since he pitched last night, they were hoping Burton could do the job today.

Lots of righties due in the ninth. For once, I'm with Gardy on this one.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:33 PM
LOL. That's Twins Baseball™.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 02:33 PM
Man! Even the ending was dramatic - Casilla, rather than just stepping on the bag, falls down flat on top of it!

notoriousgod71
06-24-2012, 02:34 PM
What the hell was that???

Badsmerf
06-24-2012, 02:35 PM
Wow. This game is why I love baseball.

USAFChief
06-24-2012, 02:35 PM
I'm not really sure facing a lefty who throws 102mph and strikes out nearly half the batters he faces results in the sort of horrible-looking that can be fixed by coaching.

He might have had his best AB against Chapman.

It's the pathetic ABs against mediocre RHers that have me worried.

EDIT: Nice win.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-24-2012, 02:35 PM
Nice win, hopefully they can keep up this momentum for a bit.

stringer bell
06-24-2012, 02:36 PM
I thought Doumit would have a better chance than Morneau--man he is sucking. For you old-timers here, when I saw the replay of J-Will's homer, I thought of Harmon, not the trajectory of the bomb but the way Willingham stepped across the plate.

stringer bell
06-24-2012, 02:37 PM
What the hell was that???It looked to me like Carroll threw him a changeup.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:37 PM
Nice win, hopefully they can keep up this momentum for a bit.


"We won a game yesterday, if we win one today that's two in a row. If we win one tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before."

Celebrity Weddings!
06-24-2012, 02:37 PM
I don't understand why Ryan wasn't out there to lead off the inning.

I'm with you. Though without pretending that it makes sense, Gardenhire's extreme antsiness with respect to having a catcher ready in case of emergency is probably the reason. Not a good one, but a reason?

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:38 PM
I'm with you. Though without pretending that it makes sense, Gardenhire's extreme antsiness with respect to having a catcher ready in case of emergency is probably the reason. Not a good one, but a reason?

Well, it's not as if he had Doumit suit up for the ninth. We got to see Son of Sal gut Burton through that inning.

Player of the Game, obviously.

IdahoPilgrim
06-24-2012, 02:46 PM
In the postgame, Tim Laudner said that Diamond reminds him of Brad Radke - only average velocity but with good control.

benchwarmerjim
06-24-2012, 02:51 PM
re Mastrionni not Doumit hitting in the 9th: the only thing I can think of is that Gardy wanted to use Span as a pinch runner if Mauer (which happened) or Willingham got on. And its not like Doumit has been tearing it up against LHP's this year (13 hits in 63 plate appearances)

in the end, it all worked out, so horray.

USAFChief
06-24-2012, 02:52 PM
seven page game thread...nice!

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 02:54 PM
seven page game thread...nice!

Yep. It was a great game so that's not entirely surprising. I'd like to see every game hit 100 posts, good games to get over 200. There's still much to be done to get the forums where we think they should be.

PMKI
06-24-2012, 03:17 PM
Do you guys think that Dozier will be the starting SS for the remainder of the year?

Dilligaf69
06-24-2012, 03:19 PM
Nice to see Diamond bounce back with a very solid outing...I still think he's a keeper and the Hammer saves the day.

Dilligaf69
06-24-2012, 03:22 PM
Do you guys think that Dozier will be the starting SS for the remainder of the year?



YES!...they have nobody else...he'll be fine. He made a great defensive paly again today and although he has too many errors he shows potential to be a solid SS. He's also had his moments offensively, needs more consistency but that's nothing new for a young player in his 1st yr.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 03:23 PM
Do you guys think that Dozier will be the starting SS for the remainder of the year?

Yes, if only because they have no other viable options. The Twins are a bad team and now is the time to let young guys take their lumps and hopefully progress.

stringer bell
06-24-2012, 04:11 PM
Do you guys think that Dozier will be the starting SS for the remainder of the year?Dozier has made rookie mistakes and has taken his lumps lately. I think his defense is better than the high number of errors and he has the ability to hit. But, like Morneau right now, he's in an awful funk at the plate. Hopefully, sooner rather than later, he comes out of it.

I certainly don't want to see Carroll starting lots of games at SS. If they want to send Dozier down, they should recall Florimon, who has done a decent job in the minors.

glunn
06-24-2012, 05:20 PM
If they want to send Dozier down, they should recall Florimon, who has done a decent job in the minors.

At the very least, I would like to see Florimon as a September callup.

Great win for the Twins today and an excellent game thread.

jokin
06-24-2012, 07:00 PM
Wow. This game is why I love baseball.

Agreed. This was a baseball lovers game. Some interesting strategy, some in-game heroics, lots of early count swing and contact that kept the game moving at a brisk pace, the last two innings chock-full with the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat

I would have been disappointed if the bottom of the 8th had made the final difference, but it still would have been a tremendous regular season game.

jokin
06-24-2012, 07:11 PM
I so want to like Casilla. He's a talented player when his head isn't planted in his ass.

I'm there. It looks like now that he finally has legit competition for PT he is playing much better in the field. He's usually good for 2-3 mini runs/season when he looks like he has finally put it all together on offense and defense, I'm thinking he might be due for a little hitting outbreak, especially if Gardy decides to give Dozier a day off now and again and move Caroll over to short. Dozier looks like he's going to possibly be a Gagne-level type of SS, he made some terrific plays today, it still wouldn't hurt to give him a break, he's definitely pressing at the plate right now.

jokin
06-24-2012, 07:14 PM
At the very least, I would like to see Florimon as a September callup.

Great win for the Twins today and an excellent game thread.

Florimon is staging a mini-break out at ROC, Michael showing the fleetingest glimpses of a heartbeat at FtM, who woulda thunk it? MN Twins w/ organizational SS depth?

jokin
06-24-2012, 07:26 PM
Nice hit by Mauer -- now it's Hammer Time.

IMO, you are vastly understating what Mauer accomplished there. Down 0-2 in the count, fighting off 101 and 102 MPH fastballs and making good decisions on when to swing against 88-91 MPH sliders, that was one of the few times I could agree with the general blanket characterization of a "great at bat" . He literally broke Chapman's spirit, especially after he took yet another ridiculously powerful 3-2 pitch opposite field off the wall. Without that hit for a double, Chapman probably had another 100+MPH pitch or two to feed the Hammer with 2 outs and bases empty. Kudos to Hammer for getting all of that 97 MPH pitch, but Mauer gets a huge share of the credit for that hit and getting Diamond through 8 from behind the plate.

Brock Beauchamp
06-24-2012, 08:45 PM
IMO, you are vastly understating what Mauer accomplished there. Down 0-2 in the count, fighting off 101 and 102 MPH fastballs and making good decisions on when to swing against 88-91 MPH sliders, that was one of the few times I could agree with the general blanket characterization of a "great at bat" . He literally broke Chapman's spirit, especially after he took yet another ridiculously powerful 3-2 pitch opposite field off the wall. Without that hit for a double, Chapman probably had another 100+MPH pitch or two to feed the Hammer with 2 outs and bases empty. Kudos to Hammer for getting all of that 97 MPH pitch, but Mauer gets a huge share of the credit for that hit and getting Diamond through 8 from behind the plate.

Yep, Mauer was the player of the game. Willingham may have had the game-winning RBI but Joe was the one who stood in there and had that 10 or 11 pitch AB and knocked Chapman off his game. It was the very definition of a "professional at-bat".

one_eyed_jack
06-24-2012, 08:57 PM
Awesome game thread, I appreciate the descriptions and insights. I couldn't tune in today, sounds like I missed a beauty of the game with a lot of interesting stuff that you don't really get from recaps, highlights and box scores.

Maybe I should skip more often, I seem to have a habit of missing the good ones.

And I've got tickets for tomorrow night's game, which doesn't bode well either - the Twins have lost the last 8 games that I've attended - heartbreakers, blowouts and everything in between. No better way to see that streak broken than against the Whities, but I have this horrible feeling that it's going to be Good Peavy vs. Bad Frankie.

jokin
06-24-2012, 09:16 PM
Awesome game thread, I appreciate the descriptions and insights. I couldn't tune in today, sounds like I missed a beauty of the game with a lot of interesting stuff that you don't really get from recaps, highlights and box scores.

Maybe I should skip more often, I seem to have a habit of missing the good ones.

And I've got tickets for tomorrow night's game, which doesn't bode well either - the Twins have lost the last 8 games that I've attended - heartbreakers, blowouts and everything in between. No better way to see that streak broken than against the Whities, but I have this horrible feeling that it's going to be Good Peavy vs. Bad Frankie.

1)It rarely is worth an investment of time in re-watching a game or knowing the outcome in advance, this is one of those great exceptions. I highly recommend to watch the rebroadcast tonight.

2) Plouffe broke out his own slump today, Mauer out of his leadership slump, Diamond out of his of-late pitching woes, no reason you can't break out of your own slump tomorrow night.
Here's a hopeful prediction: Morneau is batting 333/385/1167/1551 against the Sox this season. How about a break out from his own slump tomorrow night against Peavy?


I'm actually looking forward to this series if the Twins can start playing like today more often and nothing gets the juices flowing like going up against AJ.

striker_86
06-24-2012, 09:59 PM
1)It rarely is worth an investment of time in re-watching a game or knowing the outcome in advance, this is one of those great exceptions. I highly recommend to watch the rebroadcast tonight.

2) Plouffe broke out his own slump today, Mauer out of his leadership slump, Diamond out of his of-late pitching woes, no reason you can't break out of your own slump tomorrow night.
Here's a hopeful prediction: Morneau is batting 333/385/1167/1551 against the Sox this season. How about a break out from his own slump tomorrow night against Peavy?


I'm actually looking forward to this series if the Twins can start playing like today more often and nothing gets the juices flowing like going up against AJ.

I also missed the game, but I'll definitely consider watching it tonight. I'll be at tomorrows game as we look to cut into that white sox lead a little bit

one_eyed_jack
06-24-2012, 10:05 PM
1)It rarely is worth an investment of time in re-watching a game or knowing the outcome in advance, this is one of those great exceptions. I highly recommend to watch the rebroadcast tonight.

2) Plouffe broke out his own slump today, Mauer out of his leadership slump, Diamond out of his of-late pitching woes, no reason you can't break out of your own slump tomorrow night.
Here's a hopeful prediction: Morneau is batting 333/385/1167/1551 against the Sox this season. How about a break out from his own slump tomorrow night against Peavy?


I'm actually looking forward to this series if the Twins can start playing like today more often and nothing gets the juices flowing like going up against AJ.

1) Ha! I often DVR games I can't catch live but rarely go back to them and settle for highlights instead. But I was actually thinking to myself as I read through the thread "Man, it might actually be worth going back and watching this one."

2) I'd love for that prediction to come through. I keep thinking, or at least hoping, that Morneau will bust out and go on a tear. Tomorrow is about as good a time to start that as we're going to get. I'm interested to see how they come out in the series as well. There are a number of troubling aspects to the season thus far, the 13-22 home record is a big one. Gotta find a way to start winning on our own turf, especially against division foes.

CDog
06-24-2012, 10:26 PM
1) Ha! I often DVR games I can't catch live but rarely go back to them and settle for highlights instead. But I was actually thinking to myself as I read through the thread "Man, it might actually be worth going back and watching this one."

I do the same. If I'm not going to be able to watch any or even chunks, I'll just dvr. Sometimes I'll be insulated from finding out and I'll watch the game (often hurrying between pitches or the like with the ffwd). But even if I have kept tabs on the game, I like having it recorded for "just in case" moments that I want to go back and watch. Today's game is definitely one to at least watch parts of. I'd say every Votto at-bat (for various reasons) and the 9th inning for absolute sure.

jokin
06-24-2012, 11:04 PM
I do the same. If I'm not going to be able to watch any or even chunks, I'll just dvr. Sometimes I'll be insulated from finding out and I'll watch the game (often hurrying between pitches or the like with the ffwd). But even if I have kept tabs on the game, I like having it recorded for "just in case" moments that I want to go back and watch. Today's game is definitely one to at least watch parts of. I'd say every Votto at-bat (for various reasons) and the 9th inning for absolute sure.

Add reasons to watch:
1) Dozier made a series of good-to-great plays. In the field, he is maturing right before our eyes.
2) Mauer's heightened interest level, in the dugout, behind the plate, in the batters box.
3) Diamond. And not just his all-day battle with Votto, ie, he hit Votto early on, and then hit Phillips to load the bases and pitched out of it. He has now actually found a strikeout pitch with his mixing and matching skills. Gives high hopes for the future.
4) Brandon Phillips. You have to see him play to appreciate just how good he really is. Stole a bunch of hits from the Twins all weekend. He's the best fielding 2B in baseball IMO.
5) Aroldis Chapman. Did I mention the Chapman-Mauer battle? All right, I did already. Epic regular season game battle that can't be reiterated enough. Chapman has previously hit 106 on the gun and averages 15.7 K/9 with a .76 WHIP. Scary good while still with upside at only 24 years of age.

Brock Beauchamp
06-25-2012, 07:49 AM
I just noticed that this was the most active game thread since the home opener. Thanks for contributing, everyone!

glunn
06-25-2012, 11:27 PM
I think that tonight's White Sox thread may yet beat this one. Nothing better to rally the troops than a home opener against the evil ones.