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Brock Beauchamp
06-23-2012, 12:47 PM
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Brock Beauchamp
06-23-2012, 12:51 PM
Lineups:

Twins
Span CF
Revere RF
Mauer 1B
Willingham LF
Plouffe 3B
Doumit C
Dozier SS
Carroll 2B
(Duensing P)

Reds
Cozart SS
Heisey CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Rolen 3B
Frazier LF
Hanigan C
(Cueto P)

Nick Nelson
06-23-2012, 01:04 PM
Last night Mauer was deemed slower than Liam Hendriks. Today he's in the starting lineup. Be interested to see how he moves.

stringer bell
06-23-2012, 01:23 PM
Last night Mauer was deemed slower than Liam Hendriks. Today he's in the starting lineup. Be interested to see how he moves.

Not necessarily slower, just they didn't want Mauer to aggravate the injury knowing that he wasn't going to stay in the game. Mauer/Hendriks were on first with runners ahead on second and third. All the runner on first had to do was go station to station.

glunn
06-23-2012, 02:17 PM
Not necessarily slower, just they didn't want Mauer to aggravate the injury knowing that he wasn't going to stay in the game. Mauer/Hendriks were on first with runners ahead on second and third. All the runner on first had to do was go station to station.

It also seems possible that Hendriks runs pretty fast, and he might be used again as a pinch runner.

Ultima Ratio
06-23-2012, 02:59 PM
Why does Cueto wear a towel under his cap? Is it to catch sweat like a headband or what?

glunn
06-23-2012, 03:16 PM
It would be good to get some early runs here.

Nick Nelson
06-23-2012, 03:27 PM
Duensing looking pretty good. I'm actually surprised it has taken the Twins this long to give him a chance in the rotation.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-23-2012, 03:37 PM
Duensing looking pretty good. I'm actually surprised it has taken the Twins this long to give him a chance in the rotation.

It's one inning...not ready to crown him the savior of the rotation just yet, also in the past he proved to only be a mediocre option in the rotation.

glunn
06-23-2012, 03:37 PM
Duensing looking pretty good. I'm actually surprised it has taken the Twins this long to give him a chance in the rotation.

I think that this probably has something to do with how he struggled as a starter last season, and the fact that right handed batters were lighting him up.

Why the F was Willingham trying to steal second?

PMKI
06-23-2012, 03:44 PM
Nice play Dozier!

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-23-2012, 03:45 PM
I think that this probably has something to do with how he struggled as a starter last season, and the fact that right handed batters were lighting him up.

Why the F was Willingham trying to steal second?
Hit and run, which is a good call on a 3-2 pitch with Plouffe (who mashes LHP) at the plate.

Ultima Ratio
06-23-2012, 03:46 PM
I think that this probably has something to do with how he struggled as a starter last season, and the fact that right handed batters were lighting him up.

Why the F was Willingham trying to steal second?

Plouffe had a full count. It's a way to stay out the double play (other than the strike out, which happened). I think it was the right call, but a little risky and it caught up to us that time.

Ultima Ratio
06-23-2012, 03:47 PM
Hit and run, which is a good call on a 3-2 pitch with Plouffe (who mashes LHP) at the plate.

Cueto is a righty.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-23-2012, 03:50 PM
Cueto is a righty.

Derp, my bad. Shows how close I am watching... either way Plouffe has been on fire recently so the hit and run there wasn't a bad idea.

Nick Nelson
06-23-2012, 03:52 PM
It's one inning...not ready to crown him the savior of the rotation just yet, also in the past he proved to only be a mediocre option in the rotation.
Mediocre is a huge upgrade over much of what they've been sending out there.

Ultima Ratio
06-23-2012, 03:56 PM
With 5 mediocre starters all year, we'd have a good shot of having a winning record.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-23-2012, 03:57 PM
Mediocre is a huge upgrade over much of what they've been sending out there.

I don't disagree with that, but a guy like Duensing provides a very valuable piece to the team when he is in the bullpen, DeVries, Walters etc would only have value as a mop up guy in the pen.

I just hope they don't fall in love with a few good innings from Duensing and assume he can be an answer to the rotation moving forward (into 2013) The Twins need to go into the off-season with the mindset that they need to figure out how to fill at least 4 rotation spots.

Ultima Ratio
06-23-2012, 04:11 PM
If Duensing got the call because he's a lefty, he needs to make Votto and the other lefties swing the bat. A righty could walk Votto too. And here is the consequence of the lead of walk. Sheesh

glunn
06-23-2012, 04:12 PM
If Duensing got the call because he's a lefty, he needs to make Votto and the other lefties swing the bat. A righty could walk Votto too. And here is the consequence of the lead of walk. Sheesh

You speak the truth my friend.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-23-2012, 04:13 PM
If Duensing got the call because he's a lefty, he needs to make Votto and the other lefties swing the bat. A righty could walk Votto too. And here is the consequence of the lead of walk. Sheesh

Votto hits .909 OPS against LHP in his career and currently leads the league in BA/OBP/SLG/OPS

Pitching around Votto is not a bad play...

glunn
06-23-2012, 04:18 PM
Time to warm up Swarzak?

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-23-2012, 04:23 PM
Not shocking that Duensing struggled quite a bit the 2nd time through the lineup, good news is they don't have any illusions and can now put him back into the pen where he is a nice asset.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-23-2012, 04:26 PM
Nice play Swarzak, you knucklehead.

USAFChief
06-23-2012, 04:27 PM
So Duensing, who struggles against RH hitters, is approaching his pitch limit, and almost surely won't finish the inning no matter what. WTF do you let him face Rolen in a 2-0 game? Sometimes one wonders if Gardy is even paying attention any more.

Brock Beauchamp
06-23-2012, 04:28 PM
Been listening on the radio while I cleaned the cars. Sounds like this game has been chock full of Twins Baseball™.

USAFChief
06-23-2012, 04:29 PM
RP: what's up with the post style? All posts are partially hidden with little toggle bars to space up/down and left/right so you can read the whole thing? Is this by design? Or some setting I can change? It's virtually impossible to read this thread as is.

Ultima Ratio
06-23-2012, 04:29 PM
Votto hits .909 OPS against LHP in his career and currently leads the league in BA/OBP/SLG/OPS

Pitching around Votto is not a bad play...

Pitching around a lefty, in a lefty on lefty matchup to lead off an inning? I don't think so. He was just nibbling way too much.

Brock Beauchamp
06-23-2012, 04:30 PM
RP: what's up with the post style? All posts are partially hidden with little toggle bars to space up/down and left/right so you can read the whole thing? Is this by design? Or some setting I can change? It's virtually impossible to read this thread as is.

What browser and version are you using? I know there's a problem with Internet Explorer 7. Is that what you're using?

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-23-2012, 04:31 PM
Pitching around a lefty, in a lefty on lefty matchup to lead off an inning? I don't think so. He was just nibbling way too much.

Votto is not simply just another lefty, Votto is quite possibly the best hitter in the game currently and has a great eye/will not make a mistake. Many of those pitches were only missing by a tiny bit. Votto did what he did best: He took what the pitcher gave him and found a way to have a productive at bat.

USAFChief
06-23-2012, 04:39 PM
What browser and version are you using? I know there's a problem with Internet Explorer 7. Is that what you're using?

Using IE, don't know what version. Never had this problem until today.

SpiritofVodkaDave
06-23-2012, 04:39 PM
Down 4-0, 2 runners on 2 outs and you let your RELIEF pitcher (who isn't even that great of a pitcher) hit.

I like Gardy, but give me a break, its like he is content to just lose this one 6-0 as long as the precious bullpen isn't stretched to much.

glunn
06-23-2012, 04:40 PM
So Duensing, who struggles against RH hitters, is approaching his pitch limit, and almost surely won't finish the inning no matter what. WTF do you let him face Rolen in a 2-0 game? Sometimes one wonders if Gardy is even paying attention any more.

Possibly Gardenhire was trying to preserve the bullpen.

Chief, your new avatar is awesome.

Brock Beauchamp
06-23-2012, 04:47 PM
Using IE, don't know what version. Never had this problem until today.

Follow these steps and let me know what it tells you.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Find-out-which-version-of-Internet-Explorer-youre-using

USAFChief
06-23-2012, 04:52 PM
Follow these steps and let me know what it tells you.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Find-out-which-version-of-Internet-Explorer-youre-using

Look like IE 7

glunn
06-23-2012, 04:55 PM
I sure would like to see the Twins score at least a few runs today. And Plouffe needs to stop striking out so much.

Brock Beauchamp
06-23-2012, 04:56 PM
Look like IE 7

Go here, download this link, install it, and never look back.

http://chrome.google.com/

IE7 is an awful browser. One of the worst created in modern times. It renders pages incorrectly and is full of security flaws. Get rid of it.

jokin
06-23-2012, 05:03 PM
Not shocking that Duensing struggled quite a bit the 2nd time through the lineup, good news is they don't have any illusions and can now put him back into the pen where he is a nice asset.

Aint that the truth, although with Gardy, you never know, the paid talking heads were making it sound like this isn't a one game experiment. "Paging Nick Nelson!"

Ultima Ratio
06-23-2012, 05:05 PM
Put a tent up, we've got a circus!

Brock Beauchamp
06-23-2012, 05:06 PM
When you're bad, absolutely nothing goes your way. Cueto with an RBI.

USAFChief
06-23-2012, 05:45 PM
Go here, download this link, install it, and never look back.

http://chrome.google.com/

IE7 is an awful browser. One of the worst created in modern times. It renders pages incorrectly and is full of security flaws. Get rid of it.

Done. Thanks.

USAFChief
06-23-2012, 05:46 PM
Capps doing his best to torpedo any potential trade value.

glunn
06-23-2012, 05:56 PM
Today would have been a good day for a torrential thunderstorm in Ohio. What a slaughter.