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Parker Hageman
05-22-2012, 03:55 PM
Per LaVelle Neal's twitter feed (https://twitter.com/LaVelleNeal/status/205037625906700288/photo/1), here is tonight's Twins lineup:

(1) Denard Span - CF
(2) Ben Revere - RF
(3) Joe Mauer - C
(4) Josh Willingham - LF
(5) Justin Morneau - 1B
(6) Ryan Doumit - DH
(7) Brian Dozier - SS
(8) Alexi Casilla - 2B
(9) Jamey Carroll - 3B
(P) PJ Walters

Seth Stohs
05-22-2012, 04:01 PM
Great to see Doumit in the lineup! Hopefully his calf is alright!!! I definitely like the lineup 1-7 and 9!

Top Gun
05-22-2012, 04:08 PM
Why has cws pitching been so good?

Bark's Lounge
05-22-2012, 04:09 PM
White Sux... nice. It would be nice to see Span and Revere get on base a few times tonight and run around a bit, cause some chaos.

Mr. Ed
05-22-2012, 04:19 PM
Why has cws pitching been so good?

A real pitching coach :p

Mr. Ed
05-22-2012, 04:21 PM
Why has cws pitching been so good?

Or they don't believe in signing a ton of re-treads every year. Only Humber this year and he's had one good outing.

And they don't believe in pitching to impact.

stringer bell
05-22-2012, 04:55 PM
This is the guy Cuddy stole three bases on in one game last year. With Span, Revere, Carroll, and Casilla, there are guys to swipe bases if the game is close and they are getting on base.

James
05-22-2012, 05:10 PM
This is the guy Cuddy stole three bases on in one game last year. With Span, Revere, Carroll, and Casilla, there are guys to swipe bases if the game is close and they are getting on base.
Why wait until the game is close if you can run all over the place on him? I say start it off right away if you can.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 06:02 PM
The Twins have the perfect guy to get back to their winning ways against. Gavin Floyd's line v. the Twins: 4-10, 5.67 ERA. Reason why Casilla is in the lineup: in 17 AB, he has a .412 BA v. Floyd. Other Twins hitting well against Floyd: Mauer-38 AB, .421 BA, 3 HR; Span-26 AB, .500 BA; Willingham-5 AB, .400 BA; Morneau-26 AB, .231 BA, 2 HR (Morneau doesn't have a great avg, but he does have two HR's); Revere-7 AB, .286 BA; Carroll-13 AB, .308 avg. Dozier and Doumit are the only two Twins who haven't faced Floyd before, and therefore have had no chance to rack up gaudy numbers versus him.

The only two White Sux player that have faced Walters is Kosuke Fukudome and Dunn

stringer bell
05-22-2012, 06:05 PM
Why wait until the game is close if you can run all over the place on him? I say start it off right away if you can.Sure. That is correct. Run in the early innings, run later in the day if the game is still close. Hopefully, the Twins get opportunities throughout the whole game.

CDog
05-22-2012, 06:29 PM
Great to see Doumit in the lineup! Hopefully his calf is alright!!! I definitely like the lineup 1-7 and 9!

I fully expect a "take that!" performance from AC for that!

CDog
05-22-2012, 06:30 PM
Why wait until the game is close if you can run all over the place on him? I say start it off right away if you can.

Don't most games start pretty close?

Vegeta
05-22-2012, 07:05 PM
Hoping the Twins jump on em early.

Vegeta
05-22-2012, 07:18 PM
Looks like Floyds fastball is tailing away from the lefties.

IdahoPilgrim
05-22-2012, 07:21 PM
Well, that didn't take too long. Could be a long night for Walters

Alex
05-22-2012, 07:35 PM
2nd inning AB for Dozier might have been his ugliest of the season. Everyone's entitled, though.

Pitz
05-22-2012, 07:37 PM
Living in Chicago, this is the first game I've actually been able to watch on TV. Unfortunately it means I have to listen to Hawk Harrelson and Steve Stone - sometimes humorous with how painfully awful they are.
Nice 2ndinning going for the Twins

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 07:37 PM
I did read somewhere that the Twins, especially Gardy, were expecting Walters to have a little trouble with the gopher ball, because, according to Gardy, the way he attacks the strike zone. But never mind that now, Casilla has continued his good hitting against Floyd by doubling and scoring two runs! And then, next batter, Carroll singles in Casilla and then takes 2nd on the throw! Go Twins!

USAFChief
05-22-2012, 07:38 PM
Did the Sox sign Marquis last night and throw him in the rotation?

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 07:40 PM
Carroll scores from 3rd after a wild pitch gets him to 3rd and a single from Span drives him in.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 07:44 PM
Span uses te speed and steals 2nd; there's te SB that we all thought was coming. Now if only Mauer could knock him in........or Willingham (Mauer walks)

snepp
05-22-2012, 07:45 PM
There are few things in life that cheer me up faster than the Twins leading over the White Sox.

mnfireman
05-22-2012, 07:47 PM
What does the "AFW" on the back of the mound stand for? Not important, just wondering.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 07:48 PM
From the Gameday "Scout": "That was pitch #45 for Floyd; his effectiveness may start slipping, as he holds batters to a .217 average in his first 45 pitches, then they start hitting .254 off him after that. (not that he already wasn't effective, lolol

Vegeta
05-22-2012, 07:48 PM
Twins brought their pimp sticks tonight

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 07:53 PM
Line for the Twins through 2 innings against Floyd: 11 AB, 5 H, 2 BB, 4 runs. It appears that the White Sox transplanted the pitching ability of Marquis into Floyd for tonite's game.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 07:57 PM
After handing Floyd a long second, the Twins should have been able to do better than get out in only 12 pitches.

Alex
05-22-2012, 08:00 PM
Yuck. Off night for Dozier. Hopefully he'll figure it out tonight yet.

Edit: Wow, terrible call on the lead off walk for Walters.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 08:02 PM
A) How does Konerko keep putting up these monster numbers during the first half of the season and B) I hope that the Twins pitchers can shut Dunn down in this series and he can go back to the BA he deserves: .215 ;)

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 08:08 PM
Seems like these White Sox are getting some solid line drives, but they are all right at Twins players; luck like that never lasts. :/

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 08:15 PM
Wow, another double off of a deflection by a Sox defender; this means that they should be catching certain balls, and aren't quite getting there.

USAFChief
05-22-2012, 08:16 PM
Did the Sox sign Marquis last night and throw him in the rotation?


It appears they did indeed.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 08:17 PM
And Willingham finally comes through against Floyd and makes him pay for walking Mauer. DOPE!!!!!!!!!! Morneau hits a three-run dinger on an 82 (seriously? That slow?) mph 2-seam fastball!

Vegeta
05-22-2012, 08:19 PM
Justin Morneau says "get off me ball"

IdahoPilgrim
05-22-2012, 08:21 PM
Is this a sign of the times? The Twins have an 8 run lead, and I'm nervous and just hoping they can hold it!

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-22-2012, 08:23 PM
The last thing you want to do is start walking guys with an 8 run lead.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 08:25 PM
I have to say, the first pitch to dunn, at least on Gameday, looked like a really, really good pitch. Same with the second pitch to Konerko. This ump appears to have a seriously small strike zone. Good job by Walters to get Konerko to GIDP.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 08:30 PM
Looks like Morneau is truly back; he has hit two home runs in the last several games and not showing any signs of pain in his wrist.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 08:31 PM
Dozier just doesn't have any luck tonight, that was his 3 K of the evening

Alex
05-22-2012, 08:33 PM
I have to say, the first pitch to dunn, at least on Gameday, looked like a really, really good pitch. Same with the second pitch to Konerko. This ump appears to have a seriously small strike zone. Good job by Walters to get Konerko to GIDP.

Yeah, I'd say it's been erratic.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 08:35 PM
Ohh, Walters had better be careful, hitting someone after one of your guys was hit, and especially against a division rival, is just asking for trouble later...:|

Vegeta
05-22-2012, 08:39 PM
I don't think it's too much of a worry. Esp after he threw one about 10 feet wide, right to the backstop.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 08:56 PM
After coming on for the extremely ineffective Floyd, Stewart has only allowed two baserunners and has three strikeouts. He has also only thrown 44 pitches in 3 1/3 innings, where Floyd threw 88 in 3 2/3. Hopefully, Stewart won't be available tomorrow, because after our breakout against Floyd he has shut us down.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 09:04 PM
Walters has continued his effectiveness, as he has thrown only 79 pitches in 7 innings of pitching. He has only given up 3 hits, allowed only one run, struck out four, and walked two.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 09:08 PM
Our first look at O-Dog as a member of the Sux! :P)

twinsnorth49
05-22-2012, 09:11 PM
A real pitching coach :p

Guess he took the night off

Chance
05-22-2012, 09:15 PM
I like how often Walters changes speeds. When they guess right they put a good swing on it but it is mostly guess work. Try to name the pitch or the speed, it is always changing in the same situations. Hes going to allow a few homers. But I think even when he cools off and he will, he can still pitch in the majors. I like this kid

Ultima Ratio
05-22-2012, 09:18 PM
P.J. Strikes out the side???!!!??? Nice! And please don't let this be a fluke first few starts. Thanks. Love beating up on them smelly sox.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 09:19 PM
That's stamina for you, Walters is still able to throw a 91 mph fastball, and then he follows it up with a 78 mph slider. He then throws practically the same pitch sequence to Escobar, and induces another strikeout. Walters has only thrown 89 pitches; do the Twins let him come back out, or do they bring in a reliever?

twinsnorth49
05-22-2012, 09:21 PM
And they don't believe in pitching to impact.

Wrong apparently

Ultima Ratio
05-22-2012, 09:21 PM
I hope the discussion is this: You have the ninth until you give up a hit or walk.

twinsnorth49
05-22-2012, 09:22 PM
That's stamina for you, Walters is still able to throw a 91 mph fastball, and then he follows it up with a 78 mph slider. He then throws practically the same pitch sequence to Escobar, and induces another strikeout. Walters has only thrown 89 pitches; do the Twins let him come back out, or do they bring in a reliever?

He just struck out the side on like 9 pitches and has an 8 run lead.......are you feeling ok?

Vegeta
05-22-2012, 09:25 PM
Cmon Walters !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 09:25 PM
Have you seen the Twins over the years? They don't always let the pitcher on cruise control finish the game. Can't think of specific examples, but I know it has happened.

Ultima Ratio
05-22-2012, 09:25 PM
I wish for an O-dog K. Please.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 09:27 PM
And Hudson has fully gone to the dark side with a single off of Walters.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 09:29 PM
Wow, the Sux must be REALLY desperate to get something going if they are pinch hitting for Dunn :)

Top Gun
05-22-2012, 09:34 PM
CG, Twins win!

TwinsGuy55422
05-22-2012, 09:35 PM
Great win for the team and great outing by Walters. That is how you pitch.

Vegeta
05-22-2012, 09:35 PM
And a dominate game by Walters :)

OrangeDisk
05-22-2012, 09:35 PM
Woot! Awesome!

USAFChief
05-22-2012, 09:36 PM
ONE pitcher? For NINE innings??

Unpossible.

J-Dog Dungan
05-22-2012, 09:36 PM
Walters finishes off the game! Good Job for him!

Dilligaf69
05-22-2012, 09:36 PM
Wow a complete game by a starter and OUR starter no less....GREAT JOB PJ!

Chance
05-22-2012, 09:38 PM
Congrats to Walters! Great performance from him. Now let's see Diamond continue his good start with the big club this season and improve to 4-0

twinsnorth49
05-22-2012, 09:42 PM
This team is gaining confidence, an effort like this after getting pasted by 14 runs the night before tells a lot about the leadership in the locker room. What an effort by Walters and that play by Casilla going deep in the hole for his pitcher was beautiful....nice grab by Morneau too.

twinsnorth49
05-22-2012, 09:44 PM
It's impossible to understate how huge it was for Walters to give the pen the night off, desperately needed after the Marquis debacle.

ashburyjohn
05-22-2012, 09:48 PM
ONE pitcher? For NINE innings?? Unpossible.

I believe there is a rule that prevents this; one's third string catcher is required to pitch if no other reliever is willing, or something like that. The box score must be wrong.

Gawd, I'm doing the Butera meme. Must stop, must stop...

one_eyed_jack
05-22-2012, 10:00 PM
Hats off to PJ Walters!

Gotta love a complete game W on the road against a division opponent.

Key stretch of the schedule here 4 of the next 5 series in the division. No, I'm not suggesting it's realistic that the Twins will climb into the division lead.

But if we want to salvage some measure of respectability to this season, we to need to win some of these series.

Bark's Lounge
05-22-2012, 10:15 PM
Hey, what do you know... a complete game. This was the Twins most COMPLETE game of the season so far. I hope for a few more. I wonder if Ventura will dull his pain with some sifters of Vodka?

twinsnorth49
05-22-2012, 10:17 PM
Got a good view of the other side tonight...............man I like that view.

one_eyed_jack
05-22-2012, 10:20 PM
And look - the Cubbies lost. With our win tonight, we no longer have the worst record in the entire league.

Mauerzy4Prez
05-22-2012, 10:25 PM
Great outing by P.J., first complete game all year for a twins SP! Justin's homer is a nice sign, he really seems to be swinging with authority since he came back.

TwinsGuy55422
05-22-2012, 10:34 PM
Dominant showings by both the offense and the pitching have been extremely hard to come by this year. Usually if one is great, the other falters. It was great to see the team put it all together. Hopefully this continues.

Montecore
05-22-2012, 10:41 PM
And, he struck out the side on 9 pitches in the late innings. Best game all year, just what you want to see from a rookie pitcher after a 1st inning gopher ball. Good approach at the plate from Lexi, and Carroll. I don't expect 'em to get to .500, but you have to like the determination now. This is what Valencia and Parmalee were not giving them.

Billy Bremner
05-22-2012, 10:43 PM
This win is huge!!! This means the Stinkies will be within striking distance of 64 wins as the season draws down!!! I am so pumped!!!

Top Gun
05-22-2012, 11:51 PM
What idoits, why don't you just give the Twins some credit.

Shane Wahl
05-23-2012, 12:46 AM
I like how often Walters changes speeds. When they guess right they put a good swing on it but it is mostly guess work. Try to name the pitch or the speed, it is always changing in the same situations. Hes going to allow a few homers. But I think even when he cools off and he will, he can still pitch in the majors. I like this kid

Work fast, throw strikes, change speeds. That's the mantra. Twins pitching has generally had the first two down, but much of the time they don't change speeds effectively. Walters was confident in doing that tonight.

glunn
05-23-2012, 01:05 AM
Well, that didn't take too long. Could be a long night for Walters

Indeed it was, but in a good way.

jokin
05-23-2012, 02:11 PM
Work fast, throw strikes, change speeds. That's the mantra. Twins pitching has generally had the first two down, but much of the time they don't change speeds effectively. Walters was confident in doing that tonight.

I think the latest relief sensation, Son of Sal, set the tone on changing speeds for the rest of the season. (The graph representing the speed of Butera's series of pitches was hilarious and reminded me of my last road trip to the Grand Tetons).

IzzY
05-23-2012, 05:13 PM
About friggin' time someone pitches a CG not named Pavano. I knew before the game we had a better chance to win this game, given the Twins' recent dominance over the White Sox.