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Seth Stohs
05-19-2012, 12:36 PM
Twins Lineup:

Denard Span CF
Ben Revere RF
Josh Willingham LF
Justin Morneau 1B
Brian Dozier SS
Alexi Casilla 2B
Drew Butera C
Jamey Carroll 3B
Carl Pavano SP
Brewers Lineup

Corey Hart RF
Nyger Morgan CF
Ryan Braun LF
Aramis Ramirez 3B
Jonathan Lucroy C
Rickie Weeks 2B
Tyler Green 1B
Edwin Maysonet SS
Yovani Gallardo SP

twinswon1991
05-19-2012, 01:21 PM
Iron man Mauer needs a day off after the only game all year he actually came close to earning his paycheck???? Does he have bi-lateral weakness from counting his money? If he is sooo good he should be playing 1B against a RH starter.

My guess is Mauer asked Gardy to take him out of the lineup since the BrewCrew has a front line starter on the mound and he doesn't want to put his precious OBP on the line against any top pitcher.

mike wants wins
05-19-2012, 01:27 PM
My guess is that Pavano insists on Butera. Brutal. Just. Brutal. They can deny it all they want, but actions speak louder than words.

mnfireman
05-19-2012, 01:30 PM
This looks more like a line-up Gardy uses on Sunday get away day. Don't like it very much, fast but no pop. Mauer will probably pinch it for Pavano and stay in the game around the 5th or 6th inning, though not sure if he play C, 1B, or RF.

stringer bell
05-19-2012, 01:32 PM
It's a (late) day game after a long night game. Given that Mauer had been struggling until last night's game, it made sense to sit him in one of the games in Milwaukee. Given Pavano's insistence that Son-of-Sal catch him, it doesn't surprise me that Mauer is not in the lineup.

glunn
05-19-2012, 01:42 PM
Iron man Mauer needs a day off after the only game all year he actually came close to earning his paycheck???? Does he have bi-lateral weakness from counting his money? If he is sooo good he should be playing 1B against a RH starter.

My guess is Mauer asked Gardy to take him out of the lineup since the BrewCrew has a front line starter on the mound and he doesn't want to put his precious OBP on the line against any top pitcher.

I am hoping that yesterday was the start of a turnaround for Joe and that Pavano will pitch a shutout today because he is more comfortable with Butera. Also, Butera seems to be hitting better this year, so maybe he can get a hit or two.

Kneelb4zerg
05-19-2012, 02:04 PM
Iron man Mauer needs a day off after the only game all year he actually came close to earning his paycheck???? Does he have bi-lateral weakness from counting his money? If he is sooo good he should be playing 1B against a RH starter.

My guess is Mauer asked Gardy to take him out of the lineup since the BrewCrew has a front line starter on the mound and he doesn't want to put his precious OBP on the line against any top pitcher.

Great, thoughtful post! Looking forward to your next op-Ed piece in the Times.

jokin
05-19-2012, 02:21 PM
My guess is that Pavano insists on Butera. Brutal. Just. Brutal. They can deny it all they want, but actions speak louder than words.

This was part of my disagreement about Mauer's presence behind the plate with Alex in another thread. Mauer is 5 for 9 lifetime against RHP Gallardo coming off a game where he showed confident agressiveness at the plate, getting three hits on pitches out of the strike zone. Every pitcher on the team should have complete confidence in having The Face of the Franchise calling the game for them as the backstop. Hopefully mnfireman is right and Mauer gets the chance to build on his slump-busting performance last night and enter the game in the 5th or 6th.

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 02:31 PM
It seems like the plan coming into this series was to give Mauer today off no matter what. Otherwise, Gardy could've taken him out before the 8th inning of last night's blowout win so he could be ready to go today. When I saw Mauer still behind the plate in the 9th, I knew that we'd be seeing Butera starting today. With that being said, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to give Mauer a day off here, especially with Morneau back playing first.

Seth Stohs
05-19-2012, 03:20 PM
Catchers need days of. Yes, I understand that he is able to play other positions, but he needs days off.

It's like playing Morneau every single day after some wrist surgery until his wrist is so sore that he needs to go on the DL and miss two weeks. Catchers need days off or they'll get weeks off eventually.

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 03:24 PM
Great play by Span to help Pavano work around the leadoff double.

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 03:41 PM
Carroll's slugging percentage may not be anything to write home about, but his defense has been fantastic so far this season, regardless of where he's played.

Seth Stohs
05-19-2012, 03:48 PM
Carroll has been tremendous for the Twins. We'd all like a little more batting avreage, but every other facet of his game has been as expected. To be honest, his defense is far better than I ever would have guessed.

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 03:49 PM
Not gonna lie. I have been watching the chick in the front row behind home plate. The one sitting above the O in brewers.com. She was there last night too. I am surprised Diamond didn't give up more runs.

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 03:58 PM
Carroll has been tremendous for the Twins. We'd all like a little more batting avreage, but every other facet of his game has been as expected. To be honest, his defense is far better than I ever would have guessed.

I wasn't trying to knock Carroll there. I was just saying that he's been a great pickup for the Twins, even if he hasn't set the world on fire with his bat.

Shane Wahl
05-19-2012, 03:58 PM
So anything going on in the actual game? Can't see it on mlb.tv thanks to Fox.

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 04:03 PM
0-0 in the top of the 4th, Twins have runners on the corners with 1 out and Morneau coming up.

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 04:07 PM
Morneau walks, here comes Dozier with the bases loaded and 1 out.

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 04:26 PM
Hopefully the Twins can stretch this inning out a bit. Get Gallardo outta there and get into the pen.

glunn
05-19-2012, 04:27 PM
I am at work now and recording the game at home. Is Pavano pitching as well as it appears from the box score?

glunn
05-19-2012, 04:28 PM
Hopefully the Twins can stretch this inning out a bit. Get Gallardo outta there and get into the pen.

Good thinking -- their pen should be tired after last night.

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 04:31 PM
I am at work now and recording the game at home. Is Pavano pitching as well as it appears from the box score?

He's pitching better than he had the last few starts, but the defense has made some big plays behind him too.

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 04:33 PM
Seems like the Twins are infecting their opponents lately with the error bug. I like it :)

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 04:44 PM
He's pitching better than he had the last few starts, but the defense has made some big plays behind him too.

Actually, I may have sold Pavano a little short there. He is pitching very well, getting ahead of hitters and keeping the ball down (for the most part).

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 04:53 PM
Dozier gets the job done again with his second sac fly.

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 04:56 PM
Casilla owes 100 pushups for that at bat. No reason not to work the count. Ya Pavano has pitched well today. Working fast which is to his benefit.

twinsnorth49
05-19-2012, 04:59 PM
Iron man Mauer needs a day off after the only game all year he actually came close to earning his paycheck???? Does he have bi-lateral weakness from counting his money? If he is sooo good he should be playing 1B against a RH starter.

My guess is Mauer asked Gardy to take him out of the lineup since the BrewCrew has a front line starter on the mound and he doesn't want to put his precious OBP on the line against any top pitcher.

My guess is you don't like Joe Mauer much, make no bones about it and it kind of makes most of what you say meaningless.

mnfireman
05-19-2012, 04:59 PM
Casilla owes 100 pushups for that at bat. No reason not to work the count. Ya Pavano has pitched well today. Working fast which is to his benefit.

Willie Mays Hayes lives!

MileHighTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 05:01 PM
Great at bat by Dozier. Questionable strike call did not phase him, fouls off some tough pitches at 0-2 and generates the sac fly. That is not the at bat of a rookie.

mikeee
05-19-2012, 05:02 PM
Good game for Pavano. Nice low pitch count and doing well.

Shane Wahl
05-19-2012, 05:03 PM
Revere and Dozier are going to be Gardy favorites, and rightfully so. I would like to see Willingham DH a few times a week as well as Morneau, with Mauer and Doumit DH-ing the rest. A pretty consistent roster rotation could keep guys fresh, give the prospect Revere 4 starts a week, maintain speed and power balance, and basically keep the guys up, up (it comes down to Plouffe vs. Valencia . . . or Burroughs . . .). Develop every other prospect at Rochester, save for Hendriks (maybe).

twinsnorth49
05-19-2012, 05:06 PM
Have I ever mentioned I like Brian Dozier.

MileHighTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 05:08 PM
Have I ever mentioned I like Brian Dozier.

We have ourselves a shortstop my friends.

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 05:16 PM
Pavano's day is done. Really encouraging outing by him today though....hopefully he can build on it the next time out.

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 05:19 PM
I like what I have seen outta Revere so far. Hope he can keep it going.

mikeee
05-19-2012, 05:22 PM
I want to see Revere get another double and clear those bags!

mikeee
05-19-2012, 05:23 PM
Does the pitcher get that RBI??


lol

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 05:23 PM
Ouch taking one for the team there

mikeee
05-19-2012, 05:24 PM
Clear the bases hammer!!!!

Riverbrian
05-19-2012, 05:34 PM
Not gonna lie. I have been watching the chick in the front row behind home plate. The one sitting above the O in brewers.com. She was there last night too. I am surprised Diamond didn't give up more runs.

I noticed her as well... I forget to watch the game at times.

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 05:36 PM
Well we wasted that inning. Not entirely the Twins fault. This ump is mighty inconsistent in his strike zone tonight.

MileHighTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 05:39 PM
Here is a question that reveals my lack of knowledge of NL baseball. Is Pavano still the pitcher of record right now even though he was pinch hit for before the Twins took the lead in the 7th?

Riverbrian
05-19-2012, 05:42 PM
Here is a question that reveals my lack of knowledge of NL baseball. Is Pavano still the pitcher of record right now even though he was pinch hit for before the Twins took the lead in the 7th?

Yes because the lead was gained before the next pitcher threw a pitch

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 05:44 PM
Good inning by Duensing. Love the fact he gets up to 96.

twinsnorth49
05-19-2012, 05:45 PM
I like good baseball, Brian Dozier is good baseball.

twinsnorth49
05-19-2012, 05:48 PM
Good inning by Duensing. Love the fact he gets up to 96.

My favorite kind of SO on Aoki, high inside fastball blows him away, love it!

twinsnorth49
05-19-2012, 05:50 PM
Drew Butera ladies and gentleman....Drew Butera.

mikeee
05-19-2012, 05:51 PM
Drew Butera ladies and gentleman....Drew Butera.

lol..
Butera is shutting up us haters....

mnfireman
05-19-2012, 05:52 PM
Guessing Mauer gets the whole game off!

mikeee
05-19-2012, 05:53 PM
Carrol!!!!!

mikeee
05-19-2012, 05:54 PM
Guessing Mauer gets the whole game off!

nope. lol

mnfireman
05-19-2012, 05:54 PM
Wrong again!

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 05:58 PM
Wrong again! If you're gonna whine every game go become a Sox fan.

mikeee
05-19-2012, 05:59 PM
well, we are still looking pretty good.

Ultima Ratio
05-19-2012, 05:59 PM
I missed the game until last inning, looks like Butera robbed of two other hits today, threatening a 4-for-4 day? Kinda feel sick to my stomach, like pending doom or the end of the world is near. Seriously, great job Drew!

Riverbrian
05-19-2012, 06:00 PM
I do not want to see Butera in a Twins uniform and I want to see his name on the lineup card tomorrow.

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 06:04 PM
Does Nyjer Morgan flip his bat every time he makes contact with the ball?

Ultima Ratio
05-19-2012, 06:05 PM
Does Nyjer Morgan flip his bat every time he makes contact with the ball?

He's a red ass.

Ultima Ratio
05-19-2012, 06:09 PM
Giving up 2 out homers is maddening. What happened to keeping it down?

striker_86
05-19-2012, 06:09 PM
tough one, 4 outs from a win. At least the Brewers bullpen is taxed after using 6 pitchers last night

Riverbrian
05-19-2012, 06:10 PM
I like good baseball, Brian Dozier is good baseball.

Gotta agree. Smooth fielder... Nice arm... Calm pro at bats. He can stay.

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 06:11 PM
Is Perkins hurt? Or did he lose his job as the 8th inning setup man? I guess I missed the reason he wasn't pitching that inning.

mikeee
05-19-2012, 06:15 PM
well, we are still looking pretty good.

You FOOL! You jinxed it!!!!

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 06:18 PM
Axford looks like he should be taking the mound with a bag of Redman in his pocket and a 6 pack of the Beast. Wish we had him

Ultima Ratio
05-19-2012, 06:21 PM
16 men LOB today... just a tad too many.

striker_86
05-19-2012, 06:22 PM
Axford looks like he should be taking the mound with a bag of Redman in his pocket and a 6 pack of the Beast. Wish we had him

I agree, dude is an animal.

striker_86
05-19-2012, 06:23 PM
good job Perkins!

Ultima Ratio
05-19-2012, 06:25 PM
I've always applauded Perkins for the tremendous 12.

Alex
05-19-2012, 06:27 PM
This was part of my disagreement about Mauer's presence behind the plate with Alex in another thread. Mauer is 5 for 9 lifetime against RHP Gallardo coming off a game where he showed confident agressiveness at the plate, getting three hits on pitches out of the strike zone. Every pitcher on the team should have complete confidence in having The Face of the Franchise calling the game for them as the backstop. Hopefully mnfireman is right and Mauer gets the chance to build on his slump-busting performance last night and enter the game in the 5th or 6th.

Just because more people post it on the Internet doesn't make your argument about the pitcher's trust in Mauer real. Find real evidence please. Pavano and Butera do seem to work together, and that's fine, and Joe has probably been due for a day off.

30whales
05-19-2012, 06:33 PM
Riverbrian, who do you see the Twins drafting and who do you want them to draft?

one_eyed_jack
05-19-2012, 06:35 PM
Well we wasted that inning. Not entirely the Twins fault. This ump is mighty inconsistent in his strike zone tonight.

---Yeah, Davidson has been all over the place. And it's Wendelstehdt behind the plate tomorrow, so the shape of the strike zone should get even more interesting.

Can't believe they have those 2 on the same crew. They might as well have rounded it out with Angel Hernandez and Todd Tichenor (or maybe Brian Runge) for a full crew of incompetent umpires who think they are God's gift to baseball and that the thousands of people in the stands paid to watch them call the game.

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 06:44 PM
Don't forget the Joe "cowboy" West

Ultima Ratio
05-19-2012, 06:48 PM
How about them 2 out home runs! That deserves an 'atta boy!'

30whales
05-19-2012, 06:49 PM
Ever since Plouffe shaved his head he has been crushing the ball!

twinsnorth49
05-19-2012, 06:49 PM
If Trevor Plouffe just hits Home Runs, I'm ok with that!

MileHighTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 06:51 PM
How great is it when the video montage foreshadows the home run blast!

Riverbrian
05-19-2012, 06:51 PM
Riverbrian, who do you see the Twins drafting and who do you want them to draft?

Honestly I don't know a lot about the players. Baseball outside of MLB doesn't get enough press to get a good gauge on who the best is. Hell... Even seasoned scouts struggle at the task.

With the #2 pick... They can go BPA but that BPA better be leaps and bounds better then the top college arm available cuz we have an extroidanary need for frontline pitching at the upper levels. We can complain about not having a #1 or #2 starter. Well this should be the chance to get one for down the line. So if it was me... I'd take Zimmer. From what I've read and not seen. He sounds the most exciting.

I pray the draft team is focused and nails this draft... It's important.

MileHighTwinsFan
05-19-2012, 06:54 PM
Dozier! What a game today.

Riverbrian
05-19-2012, 06:55 PM
Plouffe hit that one to Beloit. Plouffe and Beloit are both sounds made by dropping a nickel in the toilet.

I love that joke... Gonna keep typing it til someone says... LMAO.

mikeee
05-19-2012, 06:56 PM
nice win!

Capps has not yet blown a save!

pjnelly
05-19-2012, 06:56 PM
You can't get a much better double switch than that. Nice move by Gardy!

Ultima Ratio
05-19-2012, 06:57 PM
4 going on a 21 game win streak ;)

Vegeta
05-19-2012, 06:57 PM
And the Golden Sombrero goes to Rickie Weeks

Alex
05-19-2012, 06:57 PM
Ever since Plouffe shaved his head he has been crushing the ball!

Sort of. He's still got an OPS in the .500s and is King more. I love that he's getting a chance to play everyday so the Twins can make a decent evaluation of him, but he's not really gotten better so far.

twinsnorth49
05-19-2012, 06:57 PM
Matt Capps haters?...... Anyone?........ Hello?

mikeee
05-19-2012, 06:58 PM
Is that another win for gray!?!? lol

striker_86
05-19-2012, 06:59 PM
capps is lights out! Trade bait!

mikeee
05-19-2012, 07:00 PM
3 homers for plouffe in 4 games? That is my count.

Dilligaf69
05-19-2012, 07:05 PM
3 homers for plouffe in 4 games? That is my count.



YES but he usually follows it with an 0-4. If we can get some consistency from him he'd be a valuable hitter cuz kid got power!

Dilligaf69
05-19-2012, 07:09 PM
Just because more people post it on the Internet doesn't make your argument about the pitcher's trust in Mauer real. Find real evidence please. Pavano and Butera do seem to work together, and that's fine, and Joe has probably been due for a day off.


He wasa getting a day off this weekend anyway..why not a day game after night??? Plus Butera and Pavario work well together, not that big a deal. I doubt a day off will throw off any timing Joe found yesterday to any substantial degree. Oh and Drew with another 2 hits today.

Montecore
05-19-2012, 07:10 PM
Perkins, Gray, and Capps. Nice SF AB by Dozier, Plouffe, and 2 more hits by Son Of Sal. Quality start by Pavano. Keep at it.

Riverbrian
05-19-2012, 07:11 PM
3 homers for plouffe in 4 games? That is my count.

Be careful typing "Count" with auto correct.

I was once texted the question "can you give me a count on how many taco shells are left".

I texted back... Just one... That is your count. The Auto correct blew it and gave it a whole new meaning. My mother in law wasnt sure how to respond back. She just bought some more.

mikeee
05-19-2012, 07:16 PM
Be careful typing "Count" with auto correct.

I was once texted the question "can you give me a count on how many taco shells are left".

I texted back... Just one... That is your count. The Auto correct blew it and gave it a whole new meaning. My mother in law wasnt sure how to respond back. She just bought some more.

lol....

No autocorrect on my Fedora computer....

Alex
05-19-2012, 07:29 PM
He wasa getting a day off this weekend anyway..why not a day game after night??? Plus Butera and Pavario work well together, not that big a deal. I doubt a day off will throw off any timing Joe found yesterday to any substantial degree. Oh and Drew with another 2 hits today.

Yeah I agree with you. Was arguing exactly that to jokin, sorry if I wasn't clear.

ashburyjohn
05-19-2012, 07:55 PM
Mauer will probably pinch it for Pavano...

This is how John Travolta got himself into trouble, isn't it?

one_eyed_jack
05-19-2012, 08:10 PM
OK, Butera's offensive outburst was strange enough.

But now I see that Nishioka hit a 2-run homer for Rochester.

Welcome to baseball bizarro world.

Hope it sticks around tomorrow and we can watch the Twins beat up on Greinke while Marquis shuts out the Brewers!

twinsnorth49
05-19-2012, 09:24 PM
2 more extra base hits for the king of singles..................I kid, I kid, I don't expect it but it's been fun to watch.

mnfireman
05-19-2012, 09:28 PM
This is how John Travolta got himself into trouble, isn't it?

Didn't see the typo and I would think yes! LOL