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Seth Stohs
05-15-2012, 10:19 AM
Twins Lineup:

Darin Mastroianni CF
Joe Mauer C
Josh Willingham LF
Ryan Doumit DH
Brian Dozier SS
Chris Parmelee 1B
Erik Komatsu RF
Alexi Casilla 2B
Jamey Carroll 3B

Jason Marquis SP

Boom Boom
05-15-2012, 10:28 AM
Wow, look at that lineup. I think Gardy may have been replicated by alien pod people.

Kirby_Waved_At_Me
05-15-2012, 10:33 AM
Is this start for Parmelee out of sympathy? Will he get sent down after the game to make room for Morneau, or will they actually go down to 12 pitchers? Since they'll be in an NL park this weekend, you'd think that the Twins would want the bench flexibility, but then again ...

twinsnorth49
05-15-2012, 11:16 AM
No Span? Curious.

IdahoPilgrim
05-15-2012, 11:28 AM
Might as well give Span a rest - he's started all but 1 game this season, and he's hitting .205 over the last 10 games.

Top Gun
05-15-2012, 11:34 AM
Updating a previous item, Denard Span is out Tuesday due to a sore hamstring.

It's nothing major and Span is available off the bench. Consider him day-to-day for now.


Source: Tyler Mason on Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/FSNtylermason/status/202424610875129856)

stringer bell
05-15-2012, 11:42 AM
Who is twirling for the Tribe? I'm wondering if it's a lefty. Also, if Gardy prefers Carroll at third and Casilla at second (as they are aligned today) why has Casilla played third when he has replaced Plouffe?

Mr. Ed
05-15-2012, 11:51 AM
So in his pre-game comments Gardy doesn't see how they can go down to 12 pitchers.

Great, to interleague ball with a weak bench and bloated staff. Should work great.

cr9617
05-15-2012, 12:07 PM
That is one sorry lineup

TwinVike61
05-15-2012, 12:11 PM
That is one sorry lineup

Wow...my glass-half-full outlook sees a good mix of OBP/speedy gonzaleses and some power bats.

I'm more concerned with Marquis not giving up 12 hits and 6 runs in 5 innings.

Ultima Ratio
05-15-2012, 12:13 PM
Dozier hitting 5th? Sounds like runs! This team is desperate for at least one more RH power bat.

Shane Wahl
05-15-2012, 12:14 PM
MAUER batting SECOND!!!!!

Plouffe on the bench.

striker_86
05-15-2012, 12:23 PM
Mauer batting 2nd. Finally!

Mr. Ed
05-15-2012, 12:26 PM
5 pitch first for Lowe. Impressive (not)

cr9617
05-15-2012, 12:30 PM
Wow...my glass-half-full outlook sees a good mix of OBP/speedy gonzaleses and some power bats.

I'm more concerned with Marquis not giving up 12 hits and 6 runs in 5 innings.

Good luck with that....

USAFChief
05-15-2012, 01:09 PM
So in his pre-game comments Gardy doesn't see how they can go down to 12 pitchers.

Great, to interleague ball with a weak bench and bloated staff. Should work great.

What a mess. 13 pitchers and no end in sight? I've been thru some tough times as a Twins fan but this is the worst.

twinsnorth49
05-15-2012, 01:16 PM
Ok, time to pick up Marquis, escaped a lead off triple, time for a run or two

twinsnorth49
05-15-2012, 01:19 PM
Un-fu****g believable!!!! another double play!

stringer bell
05-15-2012, 01:21 PM
Good thing that the Twins can only hit into one DP per inning, because if they could do it more they would.

USAFChief
05-15-2012, 01:22 PM
It's a shame mastro didnt lead off the game with a single so they'd have a chance at a GDP in every inning.

wavedog
05-15-2012, 01:24 PM
Unbelievable how many double plays we hit into - why don't we mix a few hit and runs in there. The double play seems to be guaranteed with us - if we hit and run at least we have some small percentage of maybe stelaing a base or getting a wild throw.

USAFChief
05-15-2012, 01:25 PM
Marquis has taken to the whole pitch to contact thing like a duck to water.

stringer bell
05-15-2012, 01:27 PM
BP at Target Field! I'm not one to complain unnecessarily, but this guy shouldn't be pitching in the major leagues.

twinsnorth49
05-15-2012, 01:28 PM
Marquis is a joke, everybody on this team should be embarrassed.

stringer bell
05-15-2012, 01:29 PM
Only a single for Brantley--rally killer.

wavedog
05-15-2012, 01:31 PM
I thought Target Field was not a Home Run park?

USAFChief
05-15-2012, 01:34 PM
I thought Target Field was not a Home Run park?

It plays a lot bigger in the bottom half of innings. Something to do with wind patterns I think.

mike wants wins
05-15-2012, 01:35 PM
Did the Indians just hit more homeruns in 1 inning, than Mauer has for the history of Target Field? Really, how embarrassing is the Twins' team lack of power? It's a joke of a team right now.

wavedog
05-15-2012, 01:37 PM
lol! Brought back to mind the rumor that we were blowing the fans out in the Homerdome when we batted - we must be turning on the switch to blow the air/wind out when the visitors are up rather than when we are up at Target Field. Someone tell them to hurry up and get that straightened out.

Boom Boom
05-15-2012, 01:49 PM
To be fair to the Twins hitters, when they're up they're not hitting against Jason Marquis.

Alex
05-15-2012, 02:07 PM
To be fair to Twins hitters, four (maybe 5) of them should be in AAA. This roster looks way too much like August's and we're only 35 games in, not to mention the pitching is even worse.

mike wants wins
05-15-2012, 02:12 PM
Agree with Alex, yet the FO isn't really committing to youth, or to keeping youth in AAA "to develop". They really appear indecisive to me.

Boom Boom
05-15-2012, 02:23 PM
This IS the youth movement. If you don't think the Twins are giving enough playing time to their young players, it's because they don't have many young players.

Revere will be up when Span is eventually dealt. The only other thing they can really do is dispose of Marquis and replace him with Swarzak or Duensing.

Alex
05-15-2012, 02:25 PM
Yeah, I don't mind seeing Plouffe get more playing time to see what they have there, or even the two speedy outfielders. Parmelee's not being helped by being up here, especially sitting on the bench most days. I think that while Dozier's performed well and I hope it continues, I hope we're not saying the same thing about his as Parmelee a month or two down the road. I like Carroll, and I'm sure the pitchers like to have him back there, but he's entered this organization at a bad time.

I'd also like to see them resting Mauer a bit more and letting Morneau stay on the DL a bit longer. Why put wear and tear on the vets, especially those two?

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-15-2012, 02:25 PM
Mauer does a good job fouling off pitches until he can find a good one to ground out with.

TwinVike61
05-15-2012, 02:40 PM
Game Summary: What was Gardy thinking by leaving Marquis in the game so long? Oh yeah, it wouldn't have mattered with our Groundout offense.

mike wants wins
05-15-2012, 02:48 PM
I think today the crossed the magical threshold of being outscored by more than 2 runs per game....36 games in, more than 72 runs outscored. That is really, really, really bad.

StormJH1
05-15-2012, 03:55 PM
I think today the crossed the magical threshold of being outscored by more than 2 runs per game....36 games in, more than 72 runs outscored. That is really, really, really bad.
Preach, brotha. Super glad we got a rid of those dozen or so beautiful evergreens in center field so that opposing batters can lock in on 85 mph meatballs from Pavano, Marquis, and Blackburn now.

StormJH1
05-15-2012, 03:59 PM
lol! Brought back to mind the rumor that we were blowing the fans out in the Homerdome when we batted - we must be turning on the switch to blow the air/wind out when the visitors are up rather than when we are up at Target Field. Someone tell them to hurry up and get that straightened out.
Maybe if we start breeding Kestrel Falcons in the outfield:

(a) Opposing hitters/fielders will be intimidated;
(b) Swarms of birds in the outfield might knock some of these opposing moonshots out of the sky

Also, this would totally be a home field advantage because unless the birds fly less than 2 feet off the ground in the infield, they'll never be struck with one of our hits.

wavedog
05-15-2012, 05:18 PM
Love the Kestrel Falcon idea! What we also need to do is to plant the evergreens in the outfield to stop these home runs from flying out. It would also provide a nice home for the falcons while also helping cover our lack of outfield speed. Couple that with dropping a truckload of rocks in the infield thus increasing the number of bad-hop grounders and reducing our double-plays.

IdahoPilgrim
05-15-2012, 05:45 PM
Game Summary: What was Gardy thinking by leaving Marquis in the game so long? Oh yeah, it wouldn't have mattered with our Groundout offense.

He wanted Marquis to eat up some innings - wouldn't want to burn out and overwork that 13-man pitching staff.

Alex
05-15-2012, 09:07 PM
Preach, brotha. Super glad we got a rid of those dozen or so beautiful evergreens in center field so that opposing batters can lock in on 85 mph meatballs from Pavano, Marquis, and Blackburn now.

Watched on Gameday for a bit today and noted that the evergreens are still there....almost like ghosts...

twinzgrl
05-15-2012, 09:17 PM
I was there today. Beautiful day, beautiful stadium, terrible performances (except for Brian Dozier) who is my new favorite Twin.

stringer bell
05-15-2012, 10:22 PM
I think today the crossed the magical threshold of being outscored by more than 2 runs per game....36 games in, more than 72 runs outscored. That is really, really, really bad.This is especially troubling because the Twins haven't lost a lot of games by blowout scores. They have consistently yielded 6-7-8 runs and they haven't lost a lot of games by obscene scores like 15-1 or 20-4. They are last in the league in runs scored and last in runs allowed, that can't be good.

glunn
05-15-2012, 10:48 PM
Good thing that the Twins can only hit into one DP per inning, because if they could do it more they would.

Good one! This was a painful game to watch.

Alex
05-15-2012, 11:01 PM
This is especially troubling because the Twins haven't lost a lot of games by blowout scores. They have consistently yielded 6-7-8 runs and they haven't lost a lot of games by obscene scores like 15-1 or 20-4. They are last in the league in runs scored and last in runs allowed, that can't be good.

I think this those kind of numbers tell the exact story: horrible starting pitching and a surprisingly good bullpen that essentially closes the door, though it's usually too late.